Re: [PD] Firewire interfaces and PD?

2006-10-26 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 09:37 -0300, padovani wrote: I would like to know if anyone is using one of these interfaces (on WinXP/ OSX/ Linux-freebob) for interactive performance with PD. Comments are welcome... Presonus Firepod FA-101 / FA-66 Motu 828mkII / Motu Traveller / Motu Ultralite

Re: [PD] Audio segmentation

2006-10-27 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 22:49 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Okay, I hacked together a little patch which uses aubioonset~ to analyse a sample and then randomly playes back the slices. The -help file is the main patch. Thanks Frank, that's useful, in fact it is pretty much where I was thinking

Re: [PD] bang when phasor~ reaches 1

2006-12-01 Thread Jamie Bullock
[phasor] [bang~] | / [snapshot~] | [ 0.99] | [sel 1] ? Jamie On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 22:35 +0900, hard off wrote: i want a phasor~ to send a bang when the signal reaches 1. any ideas? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [PD] piano samples

2007-01-04 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 13:05 +0100, Ypatios Grigoriadis wrote: I only found some soundfonts on the Internet. Does anyone know a way to extract the samples from a soundfont? http://swami.sourceforge.net/ ? Jamie ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] Universal synth editor

2007-01-30 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 14:39 -0600, Mike McGonagle wrote: I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a set of abstractions that have been written to use as a Synth Editor? I currently own a Roland XV5050 and an old Yamaha TX7, and want to write an editor for them. I don't have anything in

Re: [PD] Live Apectrum Analyzer

2007-02-01 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 23:48 -0500, carmen wrote: if you dont mind the analysis being offline, check out sonic visualiser: http://www.sonicvisualiser.org/ CLAM might have one. see a full-color spectrogram in one of the screenshots, but not in the patcher view:

Re: [PD] the state of VST plugins in Pd

2007-02-04 Thread Jamie Bullock
dssi~ definitely works on OS X for both LADSPA and DSSI plugins. The official release can be found at: http://www.puredata.org/Members/jb/dssi%7E/view There is a dependency on the liblo library. You will also need the LADSPA and DSSI SDK's if you want to compile from source. Let me know if you

Re: [PD] PD CHAT

2007-02-05 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 17:03 +0100, juto aviten wrote: another simple questions : I try to chat in PD and to catch result of the chat... can't find any object for this... does something exist in this idea? Mathieu Bouchard implemented an IRC client using Gridflow. There is a cool looking

Re: [PD] slicing samples

2007-02-13 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Jared, Welcome to the PD list! Frank Barknecht posted a PD slicer patch a while ago. It can be found by searching the mailing list archives for 'slicer': http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-10/043536.html Chris McCormick posted one very recently:

Re: [PD] Re: infinite composing

2007-02-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 19:19 -0500, marius schebella wrote: the call is written in a way that makes me think, that the producers don't know to much about what is going on in the world... but maybe the reason is, that there is no such thing as a kiosk mode or a protection from changing the

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 20:19 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i cannot reproduce this. oh, and i forgot: i am on debian(etch/sid) on an amd64 in i386 mode are you by chance running a 64bit OS? (i guess FC3 does not support x86_64 but who knows...)

Re: [PD] PD Workshop files

2007-02-23 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 21:35 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: This is possible a bit easier with this: $ wget --mirror --no-parent https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~wardn1/PD_workshop/ You may want to delete some index-files afterwards. FWIW, only yesterday I downloaded all of the mailing list

Re: [PD] Extract and Record Jazz Bass from Music

2007-02-27 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Mustafa, On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 06:25 +0200, Mustafa Umut Sarac wrote: Hello , I want to extract and record 1962 Fender Fretless Jazz Bass from Jaco Pastorius records , I learned from mit digital stradivari project that it is possible to transform music to spectrum peaks and play with

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code WIKI

2007-03-03 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:20 +0100, Tim Blechmann wrote: i've been changing some emails with stefano d'angelo, who is starting to write a plugin wrapper, which is supposed to work with different plugin backends (vst, ladspa ...) ... a pluggo for pd could make use of this project in order to

Re: [PD] pdp 0.12.5-darcs on Linux

2007-03-15 Thread Jamie Bullock
] on behalf of Jamie Bullock Sent: Wed 3/14/2007 9:50 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Subject: [PD] pdp 0.12.5-darcs on Linux Hi, I am trying to get pdp working on my Linux box: Ubuntu 6.10 (2.6.17-10-generic, X11 7.1.). I am using the fglrx video driver with direct rendering enabled. So

Re: [PD] Real-time frequency filtering and analysis

2007-03-28 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Jared, On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 23:20 -0500, Jared wrote: Summary: I'm interested in capturing audio through a microphone and, in real time, determining which frequency range (from a set range of frequencies) has the maximum level. This would be used to determine which note is loudest

[PD] [announce] dssi~ PPC binary available

2007-04-05 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, This is just a quick note to say that a binary release of [dssi~] for the PPC can now be found at http://www.puredata.org/Members/jb The tarball includes everything necessary to get the plugin host running including a liblo binary and a couple of plugins. Enjoy! Jamie

Re: [PD] high level beat detection

2007-04-24 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 10:21 +0200, ronny vanden bempt wrote: Hey, We're busy with making a beat detector in Pd, Are you already aware of aubio, which does this pretty well, and provides PD externals that wrap the functionality? (http://aubio.piem.org/). Just might save you some time. best,

Re: [PD] high level beat detection

2007-04-25 Thread Jamie Bullock
it and make it work again in PureData? Again I mean, where do I put the .dll file for PureData to include it. gr Ronny 2007/4/24, Jamie Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 10:21 +0200, ronny vanden bempt wrote: Hey, We're busy with making a beat

[PD] Postscript output fontsize

2007-04-27 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, When I print to a postscript file using 'print' from the file menu in PD, the text is too small in relation to the object boxes. Basically, the text fills less than half the vertical space in them, so it is necessary to view the document at 200% to read it properly. This is fine if you just

Re: [PD] Flute synthesis

2007-04-27 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 18:40 +0900, hard off wrote: maybe the oboe from andy's 'christchurch' track would be a good start: http://obiwannabe.co.uk/html/compositions/compositions.html Thanks, that looks pretty good, I'm always stealing stuff from Andy's site, it's such a great resource. It

Re: [PD] Postscript output fontsize

2007-04-29 Thread Jamie Bullock
Thanks Andy, On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 09:00 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: Hi Jamie, If you've been following the scripting pd printouts thread the last shellscript there has Millers awk correction that moves the text and resizes it. That's helpful, but using the script causes the text to

Re: [PD] plugin~ bad screen distance (again)

2007-05-01 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Cyrille, On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 20:43 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Lundi 30 Avril 2007 16:37, Kevin McCoy a écrit : Have you tried using Jamie's [dssi~] ; I haven't used it but it sounds like it's good. It works for ladspa and dssi plugins I didn't know that. I downloaded it and

Re: [PD] Control-edit syndrome

2007-05-02 Thread Jamie Bullock
8j On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 17:09 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, Has anyone of you ever experimented this? You are browsing the folders in your computer. Before you click on a file name to rename the file, you instinctively hit CTRL+E expecting your mouse cursor tu turn into a hand.

Re: [PD] ANN: [SOSCroute] is a settable OSCroute (for Frank)

2007-05-06 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Luke, On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 23:27 -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Hallo all, Here is a dynamically generated OSCroute that lets its route argument be reset by a right inlet. Nice work! But isn't this problem already solved by the [routeOSC] external by Martin Peach (available in the

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 16:57 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: what/where is that [vmetro] object from? it is not included in my version of pd 0.40.2. anyway, if i am not mistaken, your patch works also with [metro]. oh yes, i forgot. [vmetro] is just a [metro]

Re: [PD] analogue clipping

2007-05-08 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 19:18 +0900, hard off wrote: what's the best and most cpu efficient way to clip a signal in an analogue fashion, rather than getting nasty digital distortion? Have you tried waveshaping? I.e. use your signal as an index to a function (usually stored in a table)? A good

Re: [PD] isn't the GUI supposed to have lower priority than process?

2007-06-05 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Matteo, On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 22:04 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I always thought that in PD, process (i.e. dsp and control processing) had the priority over GUI rendering, in such a way that drawing the gui would NEVER cause audio clicks although this means there's no warranty about

[PD] Clickable gop data structures

2007-06-05 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, I'm just starting to get my hands dirty with data structures. In particular GOP data structures. Inspired by Chris Mccormick's wonderful s- abstractions, I'm trying to make a simple GOP transport, with graphical play/stop/pause rewind etc. controls. The main showstopper at the moment is that

Re: [PD] Clickable gop data structure

2007-06-07 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 23:05 -0400, Chris McCormick wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:45:37AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Some other click-detections things require more manual work: The [struct] object has an outlet that will send out messages if a pointer of that type was selected or

Re: [PD] elitism, software and academia (was GEM FTGL Sadness)

2007-06-08 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Jared, On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 07:16 +0100, jared wrote: While I'm ranting :-)In my academic experience, it's often frowned upon to use other's patches in your own compositions because it seems that the patches themselves are the work of art; and it's almost as if this is considered

Re: [PD] elitism, software and academia (was GEM FTGL Sadness)

2007-06-09 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Jared, On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 18:39 +0100, jared wrote: I don't know what your academic experience is, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest the opposite of what you are saying. Then I attended an institution whose policies are different than the others. That's really my

Re: [PD] Question about possible SQL/MySQL Externals

2007-06-13 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Mike, I did some work on this last year, but gave up for lack of time. I basically renamed it to psql, and changed the code so that it doesn't open, close and flush the database for every query, i.e. no more 'single'. If you are interested, I can send you the source tarball + diffs off list.

[PD] nqlbyl

2007-06-14 Thread Jamie Bullock
; #X text 11 56 +/- the the value set by the right inlet or arg1; #X text 11 72 but if a further jump takes place we assume; #X text 9 90 it is back to the original value or intended; #X text 19 518 Jamie Bullock 2007; #X connect 0 0 16 1; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 16 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0

Re: [PD] cross-correlation in pd ?

2007-06-19 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 23:01 -0500, Charles Henry wrote: Jamie Bullock has cc~ in his flib collection. It computes cross correlation in the time domain, and cross-covariance using the freq. domain. I worked on it a while back...but have been lazy about trying to change the cross

Re: [PD] dssi~

2007-06-22 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Victor, On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 20:58 +0200, victor wrote: I compiled dssi~ on debian etch (adjunt) but dont appear the text of object's box, using pd extended. I supose the use is: [dssi~ /path/to/plugin] dssi~: DSSI/LADSPA host - version 0.96

Re: [PD] pdmtl abstractions questions and comments

2007-07-04 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 13:00 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Thomas O Fredericks wrote: Yes, everything does have to be in a category. This constraint makes for an environment that is especially useful for newbies and resolves a lot of conflicts. verb/is article/this

[PD] org.puredata.plist in Mac bundle

2007-09-14 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, With Pd-extended it seems that it is possible to leave the .plist file inside the .app bundle, and Pd will read it from there. How is this achieved? I would like to take a vanilla Pd, and have it read the .plist file from inside the bundle rather than (~)/Library/Preferences. Jamie --

Re: [PD] [; pd init(

2007-09-20 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 10:51 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: init is one of many messages that Pd and its gui send back and forth, which aren't intended to have any user-level functionality... of course, some of those messages like connect have proved useful at the user level; but none of them

Re: [PD] one laptop per child

2007-09-24 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 05:31 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: OLP*C* - for a child there is no doubt, Pd is vastly easier to understand and use than Csound. I had a play with one of the OLPC machines at GUADEC this year, and Csound is well buried beneath a polished GUI. I presume they chose it

Re: [PD] fundamental hot/cold midi question

2007-09-26 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 11:57 -0400, Stephen Sinclair wrote: It would be nice to fix it, but unfortunately doing so would probably affect backwards-compatibility with people's patches. Anyways, if you have something which absolutely depends on the order in which a message is sent out multiple

Re: [PD] fundamental hot/cold midi question

2007-09-27 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 03:10 +0200, tim wrote: If you need to have a specific execution order, then you should use a [trigger]. It makes it explicit, which is a good thing. Hello, What makes this a bit tedious is that, if you insert a new argument inside [t b b b] to get [t f b

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:18 +0900, hard off wrote: cool!!! Can you post a simple patch that does abelton-esue time-stretching on a loop? Isn't the technique demonstrated in the Pd help patches B14.sampler.rockafella.pd? Or have I misunderstood the question? Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk

Re: [PD] timestretching for slicer

2007-10-03 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 16:36 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: No, he's talking about changing sample length and pitch independently. Or changing length without changing pitch at all. This is done with FFT or granulation, ...but that's exactly what sampler-rockafella does. not just changing the

Re: [PD] about pd

2007-10-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 22:38 -0500, Charles Henry wrote: As loing as it is not the crap beer we make in America! ;) I know what you mean... I could go for a nice Stella Artois or a Peroni... or a dozen Harboes... That's not beer! How about a pint of 'Old Speckled Hen' or 'Bishop's

Re: [PD] about pd

2007-10-12 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 17:33 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: Wine. Not now because I don't have the space.. but I've always been fascinated by wine-making and the chemistry of it all. As a kid we had a country house with lots of space and land and always rows of demijohn bottles bubbling away.

Re: [PD] SOM experts...

2007-10-15 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2007-10-14 at 17:41 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't know, georg should be able to help you here. nevertheless, bear in mind that [ann_som] is a standalone implementation and has nothing to do with FANN (well both are dealing with ann, obviously but that's it; i didn't know

Re: [PD] many paths, how

2007-10-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 00:08 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Atte André Jensen hat gesagt: // Atte André Jensen wrote: My paths section in my preferences is full, and I need to ad another. remember there was some discussion recently about how to add more, but I can't seem to find

Re: [PD] sound annotation

2007-10-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 17:22 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello list, I am looking for a way to annotate sound, so to associate text information to sound files. Would it be a way in pd to do it? I would need to create time stamps in a sound file and associate keywords and notes to these

Re: [PD] [-SPAM-] Re: many paths, how

2007-10-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 10:29 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Jamie Bullock wrote: It is also one of the most frequent questions I get asked when I introduce new users to PD. interestingly enough i never have been asked this. most likely it is not the initial design that a lot

Re: [PD] [-SPAM-] Re: many paths, how

2007-10-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 16:47 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think it would be very good to have cleaned up preferences windows for Pd in general. I hate to say this: But a lot of these problems are already

Re: [PD] Pd-extended final release candidate - please test!

2007-10-19 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:03 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Please test this build lots! If no one finds anything that needs fixing, I am going to release this exact version: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-13/ There are some known bugs, but they are big and will

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-23 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 01:00 +0200, Jeff Rose wrote: My real question is how to work with arrays in this manner. I'd like to use [line] objects to generate small sequences that I write into short segments of an array. With a for loop this would be straight forward, but I don't know how to

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.3-extended released!

2007-10-23 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 13:41 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Finally, it's done! The most polished release of Pd yet. We are further refining Pd into a truly powerful and usable programming platform. Congratulations HC! This is a fantastic achievement. I now have Pd working

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-24 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 15:03 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Jamie Bullock wrote: BUT, I don't think dynamic patching in Pd as it currently stands is officially supported (by Miller), It's quite useless to say that, unless you are interested in the philosophical

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Jeff, On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 14:37 +0200, Jeff Rose wrote: Anyways, it would be great to hear what experienced people have to say about dynamicity in PD. You might want to take a look at Thomas Grill's [dyn] http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/ext/dyn/ Although, I think if you

Re: [PD] Array indexing for the wind and the birds

2007-10-26 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 13:40 -0400, marius schebella wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Well, yes, it was a pretty fundamental decision. Languages like SuperCollider, Nova and Csound to some extent show, that dynamically creating synthesis objects can work in a realtime system as well. and

Re: [PD] Fun with Lua coroutines

2007-10-31 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 21:11 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: If not, lua may be the easiest start: It's easy to compile, compiled versions could be statically compiled, the language is fully documented with a wonderful book (see www.lua.org). [snip] Language freaks (nerds) can find some

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-03 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 14:53 +0100, Steffen Juul wrote: On 03/11/2007, at 8.02, hard off wrote: i just set up a new wiki for pd, aimed at providing a simple and easy way for pd users to share their patches / tutorials, etc... There is also the http://puredata.info website people can use.

Re: [PD] [-SPAM-] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-03 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 14:24 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think there is a lot that could be done to the look and feel of Pd that would make it much more efficient and usable. I think it is crucial to avoid flashiness, one of Pd's strengths is its lack of flashiness (no

Re: [PD] GUI speed test

2007-11-12 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 15:01 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I devised a quick test of loading speed and did some quick comparisons on my MacBook Pro 2.4GHz. (I am used to having one of the slowest machines around, my old 800Mhz Powerbook, so I still have to readjust my thinking).

Re: [PD] what about NRPN's ?

2007-11-30 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 10:22 +0100, David Schaffer wrote: Hi! Does anyone know if Pd can handle RPN-NRPN messages? thank you! It can with David Mccallum's excellent abstractions: [nrpnin] and [nrpnout]. http://www.mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/html/downloads.html Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk

[PD] phasor time scaling

2007-12-07 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, Has anyone implemented 'phasor time scaling' as an abstraction (or external)? I know it is relatively easy scale a phasor where the frequency of the scaled phasor is an integer multiple of the master phasor: [phasor~] | [*~ 2] | [wrap~] ...but what about non-integer multiples, and

Re: [PD] Get patch file name

2007-12-08 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 22:14 -0800, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Hi all, I have searched high and low for a way to get a patch's file-name, and am quite surprised that there seems to be no way to do it. I was about to set out making a Subversion library so I could get the status of my patches

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-07 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Andy, On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 16:12 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i installed postgresql, and got it running, created a user for myself, compiled [psql] from postlude (i'm using pd-extended from cvs). i opened up the psql-help file and started with the first instruction, and it created

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-09 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi Hans, I like this idea of a hot and cold inlet, and I can see where you are going with making the database access objects more pd-like. I also agree that the sql/sqlend delimiters are a rather inelegant workaround for Pd's lack of a string type. What you suggest shouldn't be too hard to

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-09 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 00:51 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: The only SQL interface I'd really be happy to use (if I had to use SQL) is something using placeholders, sort of like [expr], but perhaps written in the usual SQL style: [sql select * from candies where flavour=? and colour=?]

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-10 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 21:47 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Jamie Bullock wrote: Then I persuaded him that passing the queries as a list to the inlet would be more flexible. It also greatly reduces the number of objects required to send a query, if you have more than

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-10 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 16:47 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The addcomma, addsemi, adddollar messages are a workaround, for sure, but yeah, I suppose a more pd-ish one. I think that if SQL gets submitted only on the right/cold inlet, then we would not need those messages. They

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-10 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 12:18 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: This almost *never* happens. As long as what you do in Pd is regular read-write activities involving tables that contain data that you only want to see a small part of at a time, you need variable atoms in almost any query:

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-10 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 09:55 -0600, Mike McGonagle wrote: Well, Jamie, at the same time, I think that Mathieu might be refering how the output is handled from the 'sql' external. That is the part that would make having just a single instance of a database object difficult at best to work

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 18:07 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems many things use the ? alone as the unnamed placeholder, but I only saw MySQL using ?name for named placeholders. It does seem like a nicer syntax rather than using a different character. Perhaps, we should follow

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 15:00 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Jamie Bullock wrote: Fair enough, I think I was probably stretching the point about using the [psql]-style of database connectivity requiring less objects. However, it's perfectly possible to have multiple

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 16:43 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Mike McGonagle wrote: In one of the early prototypes I wrote for this, I set it up so that the connections were shared. Basically, when an object tried to open a connection, it would check if there was

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 10:39 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Thomas Grill hat gesagt: // Thomas Grill wrote: it's unfortunate that you are not thrilled using flext. Since flext uses the PD api to get lists or other messages into secondary inlets there's nothing to stop you from

Re: [PD] phasor time scaling

2007-12-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 18:53 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Suppose I have a phasor with period p1 (and thus freq=1/p1) and I want to generate a signal with p2 = 1.5 * p1. Then I have (at least) two ways to do this (| should indicate the jumps): p1: |.|.|.|.|.| p2a:

Re: [PD] [psql] object hand-holding

2007-12-12 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 15:48 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 11, 2007, at 3:59 AM, Jamie Bullock wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 18:07 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It seems many things use the ? alone as the unnamed placeholder, but I only saw MySQL using ?name

Re: [PD] What exactly is a stack overflow ?

2007-12-17 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 19:44 +, Martin Peach wrote: In pd it usually means you have a loop somewhere, so that the output of an object is feeding its own input: each time a new output is calculated a new input is generated, so the process never ends and eventually the stack overflows.

Re: [PD] What exactly is a stack overflow ?

2007-12-20 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 00:15 +, Andy Farnell wrote: Perhaps we can reach a reasonable compromise in source. If you knew that an accidentally banged until would give up after a couple of minutes it wouldn't be so bad. IMO [until] should just not hang Pd that's all. I don't think that a

Re: [PD] What exactly is a stack overflow ?

2007-12-20 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 18:10 -0600, Russell Bryant wrote: Furthermore, if this loop is eating up CPU and making the system unresponsive, you can make the situation much better by adding a simple sleep that makes the process yield to to other waiting processes on each iteration of the loop.

Re: [PD] What exactly is a stack overflow ?

2007-12-20 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 13:12 -0600, Mike McGonagle wrote: On Dec 20, 2007 10:41 AM, Russell Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, after going through my own mental exercise to analyze the situation, I now don't think any changes should be made at all.

Re: [PD] What exactly is a stack overflow ?

2007-12-20 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 16:14 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: This is still way too much, but it's too complicated to get pd to support interrupting its own calculations unless all externals are compiled with C++ exception support, and even then, it's tricky because you can't directly add

Re: [PD] Seasons Greetings

2007-12-22 Thread Jamie Bullock
Wonderful! Have a great Christmas. Jamie On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 18:41 +, Andy Farnell wrote: The time is almost upon us to to erase those brain cells collected over the last 12 months. But who will dare post first in the obligatory ASCII xmas tree thread? Mine's in Pd this year,

Re: [PD] text based pd patching

2008-01-10 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 14:05 +, alex wrote: Hi pders Here's a way of PD patching in plaintext: Like all of your stuff, very cool! Any plans to convert the other way as well? graphical pd patch - ascii-art patch... Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk

Re: [PD] about fiddle~

2008-01-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 13:57 +0100, matteo sisti sette wrote: Another question about fiddle. I'd like to be able to distinguish between a signal with a pitch and a signal without a picth. It seems to me that fiddle always outputs its best guess no matter how reliable it is. Actually

Re: [PD] about fiddle~

2008-01-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 18:30 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: With the default fiddle~ settings, it seems to output 0 about 15% of the time, which seems quite a lot to me. With pure noise as an input? Quite a lot? IF it is supposed to output 0 when it can't find a pitch, I would

Re: [PD] about fiddle~

2008-01-12 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 19:59 +, Jamie Bullock wrote: Krimphoff: Irregularity = \sum_{k=2}^{N-1} |a_k - \frac{a_{k-1} + a_k + a_{k+1}} {3}| Jensen: Irregularity = \frac{\sum_{k=1}^{N} (a_k - a_{k+1})} {\sum_{k=1}^N a_k^2} Where a_k is the amplitude of the kth coefficient

Re: [PD] Structured dataflow?

2008-01-12 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 11:29 -0800, Dudley Brooks wrote: Can anyone direct me to articles on constructing clear, modular, non-spaghetti patches in pd or other visual dataflow languages? Especially if the articles derive their recommendations from theoretical analysis (as with the

Re: [PD] text based pd patching

2008-01-12 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 13:50 +0100, Andre Schmidt wrote: yup, very nice and usefull in (non-html) emails, console, man pages and so on (where you only can display text)... but for pdf, webbrowser i would prefer svg. as its also just text (therefor searchable, but dunno if in pdf) and looks

[PD] Max's [!/] as a Pd abstraction

2008-01-13 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi folks, This is ultra-simple, but I find it so useful that I thought I'd make it available. Basically it's an abstraction that provides functionality equivalent to Max's [!/], [!-] etc. With these objects the inlets are in the opposite order to the operands. The pd abstraction is essentially

Re: [PD] Max's [!/] as a Pd abstraction

2008-01-13 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 17:17 +, Jamie Bullock wrote: The pd abstraction is essentially syntactic sugar, so instead of doing: |0.4( | [t b a] |/ |1( / | / [- ] You can just do: |0.4( | [! - 1] As someone just pointed out to me, this is also syntactic sugar

Re: [PD] LADSPA plugin problem

2008-01-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 00:55 +0100, Derek Holzer wrote: Hi Andy, Andy Farnell wrote: For some strange reason [plugin~] has stopped responding to [print( messages. I'm sure this used to work before but now I get no method for print. Any ideas anyone? Try [list( or [help(, I don't

Re: [PD] [OT] spectral irregularity to measure noisiness (was Re: about fiddle~)

2008-01-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 15:47 +0100, matteo sisti sette wrote: Thank you very much :) By the way, I have just tried Spectral Flatness (as defined in Wikipedia) and it seems promising. I attach an abstraction that outputs spectral flatness in PD-vanilla. That's not actually a correct

Re: [PD] [OT] spectral irregularity to measure noisiness (was Re: about fiddle~)

2008-01-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 14:04 +0100, matteo sisti sette wrote: Jamie Bullock wrote: I find spectral irregularity to be quite a good noisiness metric, [...] Krimphoff: Irregularity = \sum_{k=2}^{N-1} |a_k - \frac{a_{k-1} + a_k + a_{k+1}}{3}| Jensen: Irregularity = \frac{\sum_{k=1

Re: [PD] [OT] spectral irregularity to measure noisiness (was Re:about fiddle~)

2008-01-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 18:48 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: That's not actually a correct implementation of spectral flatness. What you've done is more like the arithmetic mean of the log-magnitude spectrum over arithmetic mean of the mag spectrum. Whereas the SFM is the _geometric_ mean

Re: [PD] about fiddle~

2008-01-18 Thread Jamie Bullock
This one's pretty helpful too: @misc{ puckette98realtime, author = M. Puckette and T. Apel and D. Zicarelli, title = Real-time audio analysis tools for Pd and MSP, text = Puckette, M. S., T. Apel, and D. D. Zicarelli. 1998. Real-time audio analysis tools for Pd and MSP. Proceedings of

Re: [PD] phasor to square

2008-01-21 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 11:43 +0100, raul diaz wrote: Hi Frank, list! Thanks for your suggestion about Miller's documentation, very useful! I have taken a look to your [vosim] abstraction, very nice! There is any abstraction with an implementation of fof synthesis? I would like to play with

Re: [PD] [OT] FOSS audio tools (was: sound for blender apricot opensource game)

2008-02-04 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 12:51 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: OTOH, LADSPA plugins don't support customized guis, AFAIK, therefor there is no option to do something like jamin as a LADSPA plugin. IMHO, most LADSPA plugins might be good scientific applications, but definitely not for everyday

Re: [PD] smoothing control signals

2008-02-11 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 22:43 +, matthew venn wrote: I'm sure I must have missed an obvious external or patch somewhere, as it seems to me like quite a useful function. I think [mavg] from the zexy library does what you want. zexy is included with Pd-extended. If you are on Linux another

Re: [PD] *.lua = *.pd_lua or *.l_lua?

2008-02-12 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 14:03 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: I'm thinking if a custom file extension for pdlua classes would make sense? Currently pdlua loads all *.lua files, which complicates working with *.lua modules not intended to be used as pd classes: Those would have to be in a

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