Hi all,
I couldn't resist. I bought a nice, brassed Pentax 67 body and 45mm f/4 lens
today. I was also lucky enough to find a genuine Pentax metal hood for the
45mm. Price for the whole lot was NZ$2000 (900 body, 1100 lens).
I had to pick the brassed body because:
a) it came with a
Peter Jesser writes:
Has anyone had one of these? Got any thoughts on it?
I have one, got it for NZ$200 at a second hand shop. I'm surprised the one
you saw was M42 mount though (mine is bayonet). Its actually not too bad a
lens if you can stop it down. I've found it quite soft wide-open
I am just back from 2 weeks in the Canadian Rockies. I heard about the
WTC tragedies while there. My deepest sympathies to all affected by
those tragic terrorist actions.
David S.
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Yeah, my problem was that I didn't see that little tiny BW on the end of the
subject line.
Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: Portra 400 BW
At 10:44 AM 9/15/2001
Hey Paul:
Your beach shot is so reminiscent of mine in the PUG for August 99 - I guess Oz
just has spectacular possibilities no matter what side of the continent we're
on!
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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Actually, the Koran is a template for a gentle, forgiving philosophy in the
main as well. Nowhere, for example, does it allow for the mistreatment of
women that the Taliban and other extreme groups practise - quite the reverse,
in fact.
I find it interesting that in Spain, from 800AD to
Hi Guys,
Thanks for everyones comments on my shot.
I can see what each of you ment about it. It does appear slightly
underexposed, i think this is the scan, i bracketed the shots 1/2 a stop
over and under and this appears to be the best on the slide.
I think theres to much sky:)
Thanks,
Paul
Hi Peter
Ouch! I have never found PC to be competitive on price, although they are a
very professional organisation! They're current price for the MZ-S body is
A$1898.00.
Where in Brissy are you (I'm in New Farm)?
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
On Sunday, September 16, 2001 1:17 PM, Peter
AMEN!
Alexander Grigolia
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Yes, I have questions about my new camera already.
When using MLU is there a way to release the mirror back down without
actually taking a picture?
What is the little inset black button located on the front of the camera below
the shutter release (is it the answer to the last question)?
Just a quick word to say that the links page has been updated. Let me know
about any Pentax specific ones we missed.
Kind regards
Peter
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Hi,
I tried accessing the PUG auto-submissions page but for some reason my
browser will not load it. Any one else having trouble?
I was trying:
http://oksne.net/autopug/PUGform.asp
Cheers,
Cotty
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I'm afraid we must blame the clerics again - was it Henry IV who
asked 'Who
will rid me of this troublesome priest', leading to the murder
of Thomas a
Becket at Canterbury?
Back in 1992 I saw a brilliant play called Becket in London.
Derek Jacobi played Becket. The play portrayed it as
Bob wrote:
Actually, the suggestion is a good one. I don't see your point, Lasse.
Hi Bob,
I should have been more precise, I apologise for that.
My words about trolling is not directed at the suggestion for the reading, but at the
rest of the implications.
I think that Dan is being
David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When using MLU is there a way to release the mirror back down
without
actually taking a picture?
Hi David,
I'm pretty sure it is not possible. You have to take the
picture.
Be careful, the MLU of th 67 is an electrical device, it's not
good to leave the
Mick wrote:
It's a shame to see a good idea go down the pan. I wonder if somebody else
might buy the patents and take it forward.
What exactly was Silicon Film's idea? Weren't they the people who wanted to
make a digital CCD that you could insert into an existing 35mm camera? Or am
I
Mike Johnston wrote:
P.S. I still refuse to buy Exxon gasoline because of the Exxon Valdez
incident. I don't care if my actions have no effect; I decided long ago that
I'm not giving my money to those idiots, and that's all there is to it.
I've avoided Shell Oil like the plague since the
Hi, Rex,
Yeah, that BIN is nuts. He's quite careful to say unused several
times, but oddly enough, even though he still has the (worn) box, he
doesn't have the styrofoam. So it's not NIB, or even MIB (do you need
the styromfoam for that one?).
Whatever, $1000 is way high. I wonder what the
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Oh, man! Just my luck ... I just put in a bid on a Nikon D1 with a
third party zoom lens. Sheesh!
Was it the 28-300? I hear it's sort of sharp at 200! But you can
sharpen it later in Photoshop anyways, while you're cropping and
Technology marches on ...
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
So, I gave that evil guy who showed up at my store with a ten-minute old
MZ-S an expired roll of Kodak HIE to see what the MZ-S would do to it.
Well, the results are in, and they're not pretty.
At first, I thought that just the sprocket
Bill Owens wrote:
If you want to use IR film, data imprinting can easily be turned off.
Yeah, but the IR sprocket counter used in the film advance can't.
-Aaron
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Hi,
Sunday, September 16, 2001, 4:54:29 PM, you wrote:
We say we believe that people should be free to speak. The test of this
belief comes when folks say things we find repugnant or even horrific. If
their speech is tolerated, then I know that I am free.
one of the greatest benefits of
I found some sample pictures from the Pentax Optio 330--all large files and
uncorrected (unsharpened).
http://gordonbgood.tripod.com/
--Mike
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I appreciate that everyone's thoughts are elsewhere but I've uploaded some
more pictures (and reduced the size of them this time so they don't take a
month to load)
http://www.timkemp.net
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At 10:39 AM 9/16/2001 -0400, you wrote:
At first, I thought that just the sprocket area and maybe a milimetre or
two of the image had been fogged by the sprocket sensor, but upon closer
investigation, it turns out that the fogging occassionally flares up
through the middle of the image. Also,
There's more than one perspective to take here.
On the one hand there was a deliberate attack on a city that killed
non-beligerants,
with them as the primary target.
On the other hand, there's the character of our nation and the fact that
evangelicals
have been warning the antion of the
The irony is that your expression is far from one of compassion.
Lump 'em all together and call 'em evil. Solves lots of problems.
CRB
At 04:20 AM 9/16/01 -0400, you wrote:
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:11:09 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
As many Americans
Very well said, Bob!
thanks,
frank
Bob Blakely wrote:
We say we believe that people should be free to speak. The test of this
belief comes when folks say things we find repugnant or even horrific. If
their speech is tolerated, then I know that I am free.
--
The optimist thinks this is the
Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
[snip]
And this sort of religous bigotry
concerning the
evangelical perspective, or even if one would wilfully misrepresent Islam,
accomplishes
only to exacerbate of the situation.
Please keep this bigotry off the list.
Please read what they said carefully.
I just tested the database, and it seems to be working. What
browser/OS are you using?
I will inform Jostein of the problems. Hopefully it will
straighten itself out.
For those with Internet Explorer, maybe try using it rather than
another browser. It shouldn't make a difference, but this thing
Extremely detailed satellite photo of lower Manhattan. Yo can almost
count the bricks on the street.
Beware -- because of the detail it is a slow download, file is almost
4MB.
http://www.spaceimaging.com/ikonos/wtc0915_2.jpg
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Hi, Bill,
I think I'm using Netscape 4.7.
In any event, I just tried again, and got through. Now I just have to
get an image ready! :-)
regards,
frank
William Robb wrote:
I just tested the database, and it seems to be working. What
browser/OS are you using?
I will inform Jostein of the
tom wrote:
So you can see separate fogging effects from the sensor and the data
imprinting?
Data imprinting can be turned off, right?
Yep, but the sensor is far worse.
It may not be as bad with one of the near infrareds, like Ilford SFX
(which is usually okay in Canons) or Konica 750nm.
Everything I've read recently, including the information sheet packed
with my new Pentax SMC filters (my thanks to those who helped me get
these great filters) suggests that the filter factor for a Medium
Yellow filter (Y2) is 2X, or 1 stop. So, while calibrating my gear
this morning I decided
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I keep lookin' for that smiley, Aaron ...
I still need a pic of Shel's head to finish this lovely image of
Shel with a D1 and a 28-300.
The next question is...what kind of subject will he be photographing? I
suggest dogs dressed up in people's clothing and driving cars.
At 11:37 PM 9/14/01 -0500, you wrote:
Bob H. wrote:
Total deaths for USSR during the war, military and civilian, about 20
million.
Bob Harris
New York
Speaking of history, Bob, do you know the last time five thousand or more
U.S. citizens died on North American soil? I'm guessing it
Hi,
people like Falwell put themselves into impossible positions with this
sort of opinion. If disasters like this are their god's punishment of a
sinful society then either everybody who suffers in this way is among
the liberal civil liberties groups, feminists, homosexuals and abortion
rights
There's a pic of me in the PUG, from the month we did self portraits
(April or August 2000?). I'd love to see what I look like behind one
of those things.
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
I still need a pic of Shel's head
to finish this lovely image of
Shel with a D1 and a 28-300.
--
Shel Belinkoff
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From: Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 12:43 PM
Subject: Filter Factors
Everything I've read recently, including the information sheet
packed
with my new Pentax SMC filters (my thanks to those who helped
me get
these great filters) suggests that
Nick W. wrote:
I haven't seen any real reviews but I picked up a copy of PC Photo and was
really surprised to see quite a bit of advertising. I remember that we were
discussing the lack of Pentax advertising, it seems as though they are
really gearing up to push their digital line.
I hope
I don't think it is possible to get a really accurate meter
reading from any built in camera meter when metering through a
coloured filter because of meter non linearity. All of my
cameras, including the newer MZ-5 shows severe meter
innacuracy
when metering through coloured filters. I
You just can't trust those old cameras.
Doug
sorry, David. Hope you get it fixed.
At 7:16 AM -07009/16/01, David S. wrote, or at least typed:
My LX shutter totally failed while in the Canadian Rockies. It failed while
at 1/250 in manual mode. Battery removal or inserting new batteries does
As someone who was raised in one of the South's most fundamentally
conservative Christian religions, I can tell you right now the things
Falwell said in NO WAY represents ANYTHING I was ever taught. True, I
haven't been to church in years, but the problems I have with that don't
have anything to
William Robb wrote:
http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Shel-joke.jpg
Bob and I had a great time that day, although he was a little miffed
at having to bail me out of a local Chicago precinct house.
--
Shel Belinkoff
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Look at this auction!
There's a pic of me in the PUG, from the month we did self
portraits
(April or
Call me a skeptic or, maybe, a curmudgeon but I think the whole
idea was to suck in some venture capital and then seek
protection in bankruptcy in order to keep the money.
It was fairly obvious to folks reasonably knowledgeable about
film camera construction that this was pretty much doomed from
Aaron Reynolds writes:
Does the 45mm not offer half-stop positions? Eek! The 105mm does.
Anyone know about the 55mm?
The 45mm does. I should have been more clear about my desire for half-stop
shutter speeds: they allow you to set the exact aperture you want (for whatever
DOF effect
Hi!
I have the 28-105/4-5.6 I think it was quite clear and contrasty, but also
flairy, actually it was my first lense, that I've succeeded in making a
flairy pic, with two nice circle of light :) /The sun was in the hole of
the petal-like hood.../ AF is fast I think, though this is my first and
Since the MX is a manual mechanical camera I would think that having
exposure compensation would be redundant. I agree with most of Shel's
other points, except that since the MX is all mechanical it gives you
the full range of shutter speeds without batteries.
At 08:33 AM 9/5/2001 -0700, you
Shel wrote:
Everything I've read recently...suggests that the filter factor for a Medium
Yellow filter (Y2) is 2X, or 1 stop. So, while calibrating my gear
this morning I decided to check the needed exposure compensation using
two Pentax spotmeters, the digital Zone VI modified meter and
Bob W. wrote:
people like Falwell put themselves into impossible positions with this
sort of opinion. If disasters like this are their god's punishment of a
sinful society then either everybody who suffers in this way is among
the liberal civil liberties groups, feminists, homosexuals and
Wm. R. wrote:
Fortunately, the Zone VI modified meter eliminates this problem.
Sort of.
--Mike
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Len P. wrote:
Call me a skeptic or, maybe, a curmudgeon but I think the whole
idea was to suck in some venture capital and then seek
protection in bankruptcy in order to keep the money.
It was fairly obvious to folks reasonably knowledgeable about
film camera construction that this was
At 04:52 PM 9/16/01 -0400, you wrote:
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:53:44 +0100
From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: OT: America's suffering
Hi,
people like Falwell put themselves into impossible positions with this
sort of opinion.
Only if you understand the position and represent
So this attack was God's way of punishing civil libertarians, feminists,
homosexuals, etc.? This is the evangelical perspective?
That's not the content. I explained it earlier.
There is no bigotry in calling rubbish rubbish, and this is hate-filled
rubbish. I believe that Billy Graham is a
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:27 AM
Subject: RE: Filter Factors
That's a good observation from experience. I may be
old-fashioned but, when I use filters, I also use a good
handheld incident meter and
Interesting. Last night (09/15) these photos were accessible.
Now, just a coupla minutes ago, access is forbidden.
Any clues what happened?
Paul Gutkowski
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I agree with Shel again! :-) I'm a big fan of spot metering, and I use
my old analog Pentax Spotmeter extensively, particularly when I have to
get something right. Most often I'll take a reading on the darkest
shadow area that I want to record, then stop down 2 stops from that
exposure. That puts
Bob brought up the use of spot meters to measure contrast range.
That's all I was addressing.
Certainly you can use a spot meter to take a reflected light
reading off a middle gray tone. That kind of usage is no more
accurate than taking an incident reading, however.
With an incident meter, I
If you're using standard superglue it can be removed with nail polish
remover, (acetone). If you haven't damaged the surface of your grip
to badly you might want to use a soft cotton swab to try to remove the
excess glue.
At 06:01 PM 9/7/2001 +0100, you wrote:
(Quite long so put the kettle on
Anyone know what restrictions (since WTC) will apply to carrying film on to
a plane?
Jim A.
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Len,
I was prompting you to confess to the knowledge that you CAN determine
the contrast range with an incident meter.
If a scene is sunlit and the shadows are important, take 2 readings. One
measuring the source of the primary illumination (sun) and the source of the
secondary
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting. Last night (09/15) these photos were accessible.
Now, just a coupla minutes ago, access is forbidden.
Any clues what happened?
The URL I originally gave seems to have been closed down. The poster
seems to have set up a number of mirror of the
The point is Capa brushed up against death every day he was on the job.
That is what made him great. He refused to let danger come between
him and a great photograph. But when danger becomes you friend, it can
also become your downfall.
On Sunday 16 September 2001 20:29, Peter Alling
Somehow I think that the our leaders right now do see beyond it. I've
understood
what bin Laden has been after for some time. (There is a lot of
information on the
Internet just do a search on his name). What would you suggest as a response
to the murder of well the current count is 5000+ of
Sorry, it got long. Mostly just ranting.
Peter A. wrote:
What should we do if we don't respond
I think it's an illusion to think that a miltary attack on Afghanistan, the
overthrowing/destruction of the Talibans and the possible killing of Bin Laden (he
would most likely not let himself be
Hi,
Got my MZ-S back today, they problem with the on and off switch was due to
some sort of sealant inside the camera getting onto the switching mechanism.
no parts required. They were pretty prompt to fix it, only 3days.
They also checked the AF light problem, but couldnt find anything wrong.
Robert Harris wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting. Last night (09/15) these photos were accessible.
Now, just a coupla minutes ago, access is forbidden.
Any clues what happened?
The URL I originally gave seems to have been closed down. The poster
seems to have set up a
At 21:35 16-9-2001 -0400, PAUL STENQUIST wrote:
I fitted my LX with an SG-60 screen last week -- thanks to Peter at
Camera Direct. I purchased an SC-69 as well, but opted to install the
SG-60 for now since I use the 400 quite a bit and the SG-60 is optimum
for that type of lens, yet works well
This I don't understand. We free the Afghans from their oppressive but
ineffective government.
Some of them die as a result, but the rest are much better off with time,
especially if we help
them recover. Thousands of Americans and others Chinese, various Europeans
etc. have been killed
Robert,
NO! I don't really mean the title I gave this but I couldn't think of a better way to
illustrate how shocked I was to read the subject of the posting attached below. While
I have passed on reading the vast majority of the threads about the WTC I have to say
that of the few I've
Where did Falwell indicate he approves of violence?
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From: Treena Harp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 2:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Too Bad Falwell Wasn't In WTC
People who handle snakes, drink strychnine or
I don't know it this is known already, but according to a Swedish newspaper the rescue
work will Monday afternoon, local time, turn into primarily removal work.
A Swedish engineer on site, assisting in measuring/determening the stability of the
remaining constructions, says that this decision
I needed the magenta to get the grass dark enough.
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From: Amita Guha [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 11:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: images of the WTC
I can't remember but I think I used an orange filter
on that
Seems that you tested the filter factor from essentially neutral
coloured samples. While a certain shade of grey (13% or 18% depending
on equipment calibration and personal preference) is the result of an
average scene integrated to a nominal average brightness, the result of
a colour
Yes we carpet bombed empty jungle. The destroyed city shots we saw from
Vietnam were mostly, well what you'd expect propaganda, imagine that lies
from a regime that completely controls the press.
At the end of the American involvement in Vietnam, the average age of a NVA
(That's North
This technique gives you the lighting ratio but it doesn't take into
account the varying reflectivities of different parts of the scene.
This can only be done with a reflective meter, a spot meter being the
type best suited to targeting discrete parts of a scene.
Regards,
Anthony Farr
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I would say his remarks in regards to this somehow being God's vengeance on
abortionists, gays, or anyone else of whom he disapproves, would be a pretty
good indicator of that. The fact that he is willing to treat the slaughter
of innocents in this manner is utterly appalling, and very cheapening
Hey Folks,
Past couple of weeks, I've been watching the HBO series Band of Brothers and
I've become enamoured with the look of the show. It has a stark
grayish/green low contrast appearance. Does anyone on the list know how they
make it look that way? Is it a particular lighting or film scheme?
Achiever is a brand that seems notorious for making flashes that don't work
consistently with Pentax bodies. They are a relatively low cost item. They
are dedicated - but only work correctly sometimes. Kind of like some of the
old Sigma lenses. Likely for the same reason.
Bruce Dayton
Hi,
Here is the list i am compiled of the PDML users web sites.
http://www.alphalink.net.au/~nrg/pdml.html
I have tested in Netscape, IE, Mozilla and Opera and it seems to work ok in
all of them.
I had to fiddle with a few of the descriptions as there were
spelling/grammer mistakes or they
Ok lets see starting from the top. Press in on the button to enable
mirror lock up and push the lever in the opposite direction from
DOF and mirror lockup that sets the self timer. Press the shutter release
and it's activated.
The Dial marked from 1/4x to 4x is the exposure adjustment dial
to
Bruce Dayton wrote:
Achiever is a brand that seems notorious for making flashes that don't work
consistently with Pentax bodies. They are a relatively low cost item. They
are dedicated - but only work correctly sometimes. Kind of like some of the
old Sigma lenses. Likely for the same
I think it's too late for that.
At 04:46 PM 9/14/2001 -0500, Trina wrote:
Are you SURE you want to be known for not having the drive
I'm much slower I don't have the drive
Christian Skofteland
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But the joy of LX ownership should make up for it.
He almost died. I read that and just fell off my chair.
(The chair rebounded off the wall behind me and hit my the back
of my head).
At 03:16 AM 9/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
Hey, stop corrupting my post!
--- Skofteland, Christian
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Reflectivity (not reflections) from the whitest white to the deepest black
(not deep shadows) covers a 5 stop range. That is to say in an evenly
illuminated scene of varied objects, the difference between the deepest
black and the whitest white is only 5 stops.
One environment I did a lot of
At this point they think any remaining survivers will be in the sub-levels. I
would guess that the current thinking is to get down there as quickly as
possible.
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From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:08 AM
It was the Afghan opposition retaliating for the suicide bomb attack that
killed
their leader. The US had nothing to do with this.
At 06:14 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, you wrote:
Kabul, in Afghanistan, is being hit with cruise missiles, according to CNN.
I suppose this means that the US has
Matters Photographic - As soon as saw Goalkeeper I couldn't help but compare
it Sparky from the previous PUG. Both images captured the precise moment of a
change of balance in firstly the horse, responding to a move to the right by
Sparky, and by the Goalkeeper responding to the moves of the
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