I know I would never go this route, but since you asked, my solution is:
24mm, 100mm macro, 2X-TC
This will cover 24, 48, 100 and 200mm.
regards,
Alan Chan
We haven't a good equipment argument make the rounds for awhile.
My question,
if you had to limit yourself to two (2) Pentax _primes_ and
Amita wrote:
I took the negatives and the contact sheet to a
third lab tonight, and the guy looked at the
negative with some sort of machine and said that
the machine wouldn't be able to make the prints
[Snip]
Is there a lab anyone could recommend for this sort
of work?
Hi Amita,
Mafud wrote:
It appears I was correct in my assertions. No way would a pro lab (any) do
digital for the same price as film.
To get some actual data for this discussion, I called two different labs in
Milwaukee, where I live. Both are full-service photographic labs that also
do digital.
Kent G. wrote:
I agree completely. Smaller chip size is often preferable because the same
aspect ratio can be done with a smaller lighter lens. Whether anybody
settles on 1.3x or 1.6x remains to be seen.
Kents,
I know you're agreeing with ME here so for me to agree right back again is
Me too. It's sad it's OT on this list.
Frits Wüthrich
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Sorry for this OT post, but I really like Pentax cameras, lenses,
etc, and
have taken some great pix over the years with them. I wonder if
anyone else
shares my pov.
Kind regards from sunny Brighton
Peter
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Just wanted to say thank you for clearing that up for me.
Maybe next time
I am in the store I can talk my way into a tour :-)
Heck, we are just a hole in the Wal~Mart kiosk.G
Get a tour through a real lab sometime.
It is quite
I read it some time ago. IIRC, he described seeing the sailor kissing every girl
in sight, and ran ahead of him to get a good angle on a lickly subject. When he
saw him grab the nurse, he knew he probably had a keeper.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OT? At least it is about photography - hopefully
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From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Photofinishing
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From: Matamoros, Cesar A.
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Just wanted to say thank you for clearing that up for me.
Maybe next
Alan C. wrote:
The MZ-S was good enough for me, if and only if, it had a higher
magnification viewfinder. Okay, Pentax did choose to produce the multicoated
glass eyepiece again (what I have been waiting for), but then they took away
another important element.
Alan,
I agree. The most
I got back a little while ago from a fantastic time in the Inner
Harbor, Baltimore and lunch with our very own Christian Skofteland.
While waiting for him to show up near the Torsk submarine (on
display in the harbor) I had the opportunity to observe the seal feeding and
took a
Hi All, To whom it may concern, my ISP @home went belly up, so
I have a new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What a thrash! I was offline for a couple of days, what did I miss?
Steve Larson
For God's sake Steve! DON'T ASK!!
Cotty
___
I'm not a great photographer and never will be, but with regular practice I
do take better pictures. I doubt anyone would ever say I've even taken a
great picture. But I enjoy taking them and I enjoy looking at them. And no
other camera has given me the pleasure and quality of a Pentax.
I
On Thursday, December 6, 2001, at 11:06 AM, Chris Brogden wrote:
As we now know, your resident lab technicians are either mini(lab)
technicians or they were referring to any place that develops film,
~not a
pro lab, as labs are generally known by professional photographers.
Let's hope
The Noritsu 2102 printers that I use read the discrete DX code
off the film edge and sets the film channel accordingly. The
film is then scanned by a high density CCD camera and the
negatives are projected onto a monitor. Colour and density
correction is then manually applied to each and
get ahold of an LX, and *then* you'll FEEL like a great
photographer!!
Cotty,
If I keep hanging around hereof course, no one here would enable me,
would they?
Julie
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Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
I read it some time ago. IIRC, he described seeing the sailor kissing every girl
in sight, and ran ahead of him to get a good angle on a lickly subject.
I *love* Freudian slips! :-)
Stephen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax
get ahold of an LX, and *then* you'll FEEL like a great
photographer!!
Cotty,
If I keep hanging around hereof course, no
Cesar failed to mention that it is his birthday today... Happy Birthday
again Cesar!
It was an enjoyable afternoon. I echo the sentiments. I'm looking forward
to getting together again. Maybe next time there will be other PDMLers too!
Christian Skofteland
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On Thursday, December 6, 2001, at 09:18 AM, Bill Owens wrote:
I know the feeling well. Like the customer I recently had who, on
examining
her next day prints, culled three or four perfectly good (well,
average
minilab prints) and stated she didn't know why she took them and didn't
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From: Aaron Reynolds
Subject: Re: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
Has anyone else noticed that the clientele seem to get cheaper
as the
price gets cheaper?
Yup.
William Robb
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Thank you for the greeting. I guess you can say that the LX is my gift to
myself - as I ignore all the screwmount lenses I got recently.
My hope is to make it to Italy in the near future again. This time without
a tour group and truly enjoy. Of course that would mean a PDML meeting or
two :-)
the LX requires no enabling chatter. All you have to do
is go into a store and pick one up and hold it for a moment.
So, if I stay out of the stores and don't meet any of you with an LX I'm
safe? Hum, sounds simple enough. G
But I must admit all the talk and the reverent tones used when
Hi, Kent,
Actually, it was the price that got me. Not that it isn't worth $60,000. I
have no idea what those things are worth, and I really didn't scroll down to
see everything that was for sale.
I guess since I've always bought cameras as users, cameras with eel-skin (or
whatever) covers
Good for you!
Malcolm
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On Thursday, December 6, 2001, at 01:31 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
Evan Hanson wrote:
Anyone know what kind of camera that famous VJ day picture was taken with?
Hi, Evan,
I'm quite certain it was a Leica.
regards,
frank
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fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer
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LeviL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Hi Levi,
I am from
Hungary, I study in the states now. (at least for a few more
days, until
the semester is over)
Hungary! I've been in Vienna twice but never been able to travel
to Budapest or even across the border. Next time I'll plan a
longer
I know I would never go this route, but since you asked, my solution is:
24mm, 100mm macro, 2X-TC
This will cover 24, 48, 100 and 200mm.
Are you sure about this? I doubt any 24mm + 2x combo would give a usable
image.
That's why I said I would never go this route.
regards,
Alan Chan
Damn these OT posts!
But, since someone else started it, I own a few Spotmatic bodies and a various
Takumar lenses. I like my Pentaxes, too.
But if this OT garbage doesn't stop, I'm going to unsubscribe. Nya, nya, nya.
:-)
regards,
frank
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for this OT post,
Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
It' always nice to read when two PDMLers meet.
I really had a great time when I met Juan and Boz, I hope
this
could happen more often.
Believe me Gianfranco, it it were my decision, I'd be buying a
Hi, Dan,
Your description is accurate, except that he had forgotten all about the four photos
he took of that couple, until the next day when his editor, after getting the shots
back from the lab, gushed to Eisie about the great shot he took.
The rest, as they say, is history...
regards,
frank
Even if someone puts test in the subject line, why can't I resist
opening the e-mail?
-frank
Steven Larson wrote:
test
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Matamoros, Cesar A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for the greeting. I guess you can say that the LX
is my gift to
myself - as I ignore all the screwmount lenses I got recently.
What a bad guy to ignore all that little screwmount lenses...
:-)
My hope is to make it to Italy in the near future
Steven Larson wrote:
OK, I won`t ask. Any good flamin`?
Hi, Steve,
Whaddya you think? ;-)
regards,
frank
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Juan J. Buhler wrote:
Believe me Gianfranco, it it were my decision, I'd be buying a ticket
to Napoli this afternoon...
Gee, is Gianfranco inviting us all to Naples for a get-together? If this
month's PUG submission is any indication, we'll all have wonderful photos of
the party as momentos.
On 6 Dec 2001 at 17:54, Rob Brigham wrote:
Which is why I said:
'a full frame CCD which had the same density as a smaller one (therefore
higher pixel count cos its bigger)'
Full frame with same density as 5.25 2/3 size CCD would give 7.875MP.
Not trying to be pedantic but a 2/3 CCD has
well, since this is a hypothetical exercise .
just send me the 600mm f4 and that 2000mm reflector w/
whichever 1.4x TC works best for 'em. I'll stick 'em on
my trusty SuperProgram!:^)
or ...
the 165mm Macro(?) and 800mm for the 67 and the
Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
Finally got my new monitor (woo-hoo!) and revisited the
December PUG.
My favs in this months gallery:
(...)
Gianfranco Irlanda's The Party is Over - very expressive.
Even though
the faces are not visible, the posture, the gesture of the
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gee, is Gianfranco inviting us all to Naples for a
get-together? If this
month's PUG submission is any indication, we'll all have
wonderful photos of
the party as momentos.
Well... why not? Low season, of course! :-)
It'd be nice to have you all
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
It'd be nice to have you all here. So I could take hundred of
shots of people who I'm pretty sure won't hate me for this...
Okay, but I'm only authorizing you to take pictures of my hands, arms
and legs! Oh yeah, you live in Italy, not France...
I'm afraid I
Hi gang,
Since we are (almost...) back on topic, I'd like to share with
you the joy that my newly arrived K 135/2.5 is giving me...
I won this lens on eBay (from Germany) few weeks ago. The item
was described like new, but when I opened the box what I saw
was a NEW K 135/2.5 put in a time
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
It'd be nice to have you all here. So I could take hundred
of
shots of people who I'm pretty sure won't hate me for
this...
Okay, but I'm only authorizing you to take pictures of my
hands, arms
and legs! Oh yeah, you
(With apologize to Mike)(i'm a long lenser :-) )
I recently inherited my Dad's camera equipment
the hard way,and 1 piece in the bag is a 2x converter.
Out side markings as follows:
N.P.S. 2x converter lens made in japa
It does not say Pentax on it anywere but it has the
same knarl grip the
I've been faced with situations where I needed a long lens and a fairly
wide lens, but didn't want to take a bag big enough for my 400. In those
cases, I pack my M200/4, an AS2X converter, and the M35/2. However, I have
never tried the 35 with the converter. But with a range of 35, 200, and
The LX 's off-the-film metering in aperture priority mode (that's with stepless
shutter) will help give you the proof in pictures. There are far more
sophisticated metering systems. But I have never encountered one that works
better. And, of course, the LX's solid feel will inspire you to produce
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
I should give a better attention to all the other K series lens
auctions around eBay...
You wouldn't be the first... I also got a number of K-series lenses
this year, they are great. The only like new one I have is the
24/3.5, but my
I have the K 135/2.5, and it is one of my favorites. The only other lens
I own that equals it is the K 85/1.8. The 135 produces beautiful
photographs to be certain, but it's value is partly aesthetic. It's a
magnificent specimen. Sometimes, when I've had a bit too much of the
single malt, and I
Hi Frank, I can`t resist either, you never know what could be in
that email :)
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: test
Even if someone puts
Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
I should give a better attention to all the other K series
lens
auctions around eBay...
You wouldn't be the first... I also got a number of K-series
lenses
this year, they are great. The only like new
I'm convinced that the build quality if the K-lenses is superior to any
lenses pentax made afterwards. Optically, some may be the best lenses
Pentax has ever made, certainly amongst the best. One may argue that
they do not offer as much saturation or contrast than some newer lenses,
and I can't
On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, aimcompute wrote:
I agree. I have a PDML Mail folder with lots of sub-folders. But sometimes
you don't know in advance that you'll want to read it later.
A few months ago, when I found the K85/1.8 for $170 dollars, I didn't
really know how good the lens was. The price
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kent G. wrote:
I agree completely. Smaller chip size is often preferable because the same
aspect ratio can be done with a smaller lighter lens. Whether anybody
settles on 1.3x or 1.6x remains to be seen.
Kents,
I know you're agreeing with ME here so
PAUL STENQUIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have the K 135/2.5, and it is one of my favorites. The only
other lens
I own that equals it is the K 85/1.8. The 135 produces
beautiful
photographs to be certain, but it's value is partly aesthetic.
It's a
magnificent specimen. Sometimes, when I've
Not for those of us who read your message, or who are familiar with
those lenses.
Juan J. Buhler wrote:
Think of all the bargain K85 and K30s that will go unbought because of
the lack of a PDML archive!
--
Shel Belinkoff
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It wasn't really said for your benefit.
Regards,
Bob...
Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
from the former, for the sake of the latter.
The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
for our utmost
Because it's a test of your will-power, and you failed miserably. g.
frank theriault wrote:
Even if someone puts test in the subject line, why can't I resist
opening the e-mail?
--
Shel Belinkoff
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Hi Paul,
Would you consider the metering system to be generally more accurate than
say the multisegment in the MZ series cameras?
Regards,
Paul Jones
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:52 AM
Subject: Re:
William Robb wrote:
What I didn't like was the user interface, though
I just don't recall exactly why. It just had too much stuff on
it for me.
Yep, me too.
And I've just bought one.
Too many fiddly things. I hate the idea of having to read a manual to
figure out how to work something.
On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:13:26 GMT, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll say this and no more: when you ~manually~ set the aperture, the
variable aperture becomes a preset (by you) aperture. Nothing you do
while zooming will (can) change the aperture until (you) change it to a
different
I do currently have a Ricoh 210-70 f/3.9 though. I'm looking for something a
little bigger.
Anyone with a 300mm or 400mm manual at f/4 ? or even 400mm at 5.6.
Look for a used (because it is discontinued) Tokina ATX-AF 400 f5.6. It
is a good, sharp lens for a moderate price. It is also
I checked with my lab today on prices.
I also got a lecture because I had turned in a roll of E6 that had been in
the car cup holder. Coffee subsequently fell in the cupholder and I pulled
out the canister immediately. Not soon enough. The felt and wicking action
of the coiled film apparently
My picks would be the FA 43 f1.9 Limited and the FA 100 f2.8 macro and the F
1.7x AF-TC. (I'd never use the 43/1.9 with the teleconverter!)
A good normal lens is a must and the 100mm would serve as a short tele as well
as a macro.
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Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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Mafud,
I don't believe the Media Specialties reference was a trap. Aaron was
asking me the prices, since I named it as the lab I use here in town.
It may be dinky, but it's the only place that does what they do.
Tom C.
We don't ~have~ a Media Specialties where I live. How then could you
On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 12:29:31 -0800, you wrote:
snip
. If you checked your Z-1p carefully, you would
discovered the actual aperture selected on the camera was not that accuracy.
The accuracy is lens dependence. Up to 2/3 EV difference could be possible
based on my observation.
I'm too tired to
Thanks for the kind words Dan!
Stan
From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dec. favorites (not OT)
Hi All,
Finally got my new monitor (woo-hoo!) and revisited the December PUG.
My favs in this months gallery:
Bruce Dayton's Amazing Grace- ...
Gianfranco Irlanda's The Party
Gianfranco,
Congratulations on your New K 135/2.5. I have this lens also and I
am very impressed with the results. I agree with Shel's opinion of K
Series Lenses; that is why I now own only K Series Lenses
Regards,
--
Jose R. Rodriguez
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Pflugerville, TX
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:18:45 -0600, you wrote:
We haven't a good equipment argument make the rounds for awhile.
My question,
if you had to limit yourself to two (2) Pentax _primes_ and one (1) Pentax
teleconverter, which ones and why? (i.e. how would that combo support your
style of photography
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From: Aaron Reynolds
Subject: Re: some interesting NG thoughts on digital consumers
I've visited our outlab a bunch of times (UAF/PhotoClick in
Weston, ON),
and have been quite impressed with the speed of the new
Noritsus vs. the
Frontiers they have. The
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Have you used it much yet? How do you like it compared to the A24~50?
I used it a fair bit, but not a lot. I like the 4x6's I've seen from it,
but I haven't had anything enlarged from it yet. It fared much better
than the A24-50/4 in a casual test I
If you'd been on this list for at least three or so years, you'd have
realized that truth is irrelevant to Mafud when he has erred on a statement
of fact.
Mafud's rules:
1.Mafud is never wrong concerning any fact.
2.If Mafud is ever wrong concerning any fact,
reread
Does any one have any experience with the Manfrotto monopod that has little
feet at the bottom?
http://www.manfrotto.com/products/index.html?doc_from=home
i assume the legs are removeable to use it as a normal monopod?
I also am getting one for xmas :)
For travelling it seems like a good
on 12/6/01 10:19 PM, wendy beard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear All,
Not so long back, but many many messages ago there was a brief discussion
about tripods and monopods.
SNIP
I'm going to look in the local camera store as well, but the adorama one
aroused my curiosity.
My personal two
Jose Rodriguez wrote:
Gianfranco,
Congratulations on your New K 135/2.5. I have this lens also and I
am very impressed with the results. I agree with Shel's opinion of K
Series Lenses; that is why I now own only K Series Lenses
I just purchase one of these little chappies also, am
PAUL STENQUIST wrote:
I have the K 135/2.5, and it is one of my favorites.
I have one but I don't use it enough as the FA100/2.8 macro is so versatile.
I think this weekend I'll take the LX for a walk with K135/2.5, K50/1.2,
A*85/1.4 and K35/2.5. And make sure I shoot with all of them. I
Dan Scott wrote:
If limited to two lenses, I think I'd pass on the 85/1.4. The FA 100/2.8
macro covers that end of the portrait range (if somewhat mercilessly) AND
allows the up-close and personal pov I want for plants and bugs. More
useful.
I'm a big macro fan so the FA 100/2.8 macro
Paul S. wrote:
Sometimes, when I've had a bit too much of the
single malt, and I just feel like admiring a camera, I'll mount that 135
on an LX, set it down on the table, and just step back and admire it.
Sick, isn't it? : )
Not around here.
--Mike
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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1304270415
According to the description, the worst things are the screen and the foam.
I wanted to try an LX screen on an MX anyway, and for $67 it doesn't seem
like a bad deal...
How much is a new screen anyway?
j
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I'm too tired to conduct another test tonight, so I'll ask the
simplest questions: does the EV difference (aperture selected by
thumbwheel as compared to aperture selected at aperture ring) occur
only wide open, or wide open and stopped down, or only when stopped
down?
I have had 2 Z-1p (1 now)
Hungary! I've been in Vienna twice but never been able to travel
to Budapest or even across the border. Next time I'll plan a
longer journey...
You should come. It is really pretty. In fact I started Photography here
in Lincoln, NE. Talk about boring (especially without a car) I can't wait
Just been playing around with my newly aquired S1a, and have a couple of
questions.
As I mentioned the frame counter does not function properly and it's as if
the sring inside is weak, is this easy to repair?
Also is it normal to have the mirror 'lock up', after focusing and winding
on the
I'm getting back to a really exciting project...
A few years ago I decided to do a portfolio of my 100 Best 35mm Prints.
Before I even started on it, I moved house and had to give up my darkroom.
So last night I decided to get back to it. A lot of times I leaf through
stacks of prints and think
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Subject: Exciting project
P.S. Just out of curiosity, how many people here have actual
portfolios that
are complete and finished?
As much as a portfolio is ever finished.
I have 2 that I use on the rare occasion that someone expresses
an
Hi ... thanks for the update on the zooms - or are they variable focus
lenses? I can never remember which.
I'd be interested in other comments on comparing the K24/3.5 v K24/2.8
Chris Brogden wrote:
I used it a fair bit, but not a lot. I like the 4x6's I've seen from it,
but I haven't had
What amazes me is that anyone would want to spend not inconsiderable sums on
acquiring such a range of classic cameras and then _never_ put even one film
through them. I certainly could never resist the temptation.
And then of course, they get 'stiff' - like my old bones if I sit at this
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1045022576
A good way to deal with the current flame wars in the list...
j
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http://www.jbuhler.com
Send your FREE holiday greetings online!
http://greetings.yahoo.com
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Dan,
I have a fairly full complement of lenses, so I'll take a stab at it.
I would pick the FA *24 f:2.0 and the FA *85 f:1.4. This basically
covers a large part of what I shoot. I find teleconverters mostly
useful on longer lenses, so don't know if I would bother here.
I would miss my FA
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