Re: De Gustibus

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Mike, I'm, sorry, but I don't know anything about your education that wasn't admitted here. If you go back a couple of generations in this thread you will find that Marnie stated that he had never heard of the rule of thirds or the Golden Mean, or Section as it is often referred to. Marnie

Re: WEATHER SEALING (LX,M lenses), + rather SAD STORY

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
M Lenses aren't all that well sealed. On the other hand I've gotten a couple of my M lenses fairly wet taking photo's in bad weather to no apparent ill effects. Your lenses didn't go swimming did they, I would think that would be bad. At 06:17 PM 12/31/2002 +0100, you wrote: Hi, I have a

Re: Happy New Year

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Nice toast for a photography list. At 07:27 PM 12/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: To all of my friends on the PDML, my wish for you for the coming year. May you always have good light for whatever you wish to photograph May you be in the right place at the right time with the right camera, lens and

Re: Luck is what it's about

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Hell, you take enough photo's you start to make your own luck. At 02:31 PM 12/31/2002 -0600, you wrote: IMNHO, this shot was as much luck as skill. At the instant the photographer decided to press the shutter release, this soldier would have been still on his feet. It was just a coincidence

Re: flash suggestion for a pz-1p?

2003-01-02 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message - From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: flash suggestion for a pz-1p? don't bother with the AF330 Rob. It's a good enough flash unit, but doesn't bounce, tilt, or swivel. Spend some extra bucks and buy an AF500. They are infinately better. I use one on

Re: PUG down?

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
A punch drunk boxer. At 07:56 PM 12/31/2002 -0600, you wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:50:15 -0500, Altaf Shaikh wrote: What is a PUG? A type of dog Sorry, couldn't resist :-) Later, Gary Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to

Re: MZ-M owners/users opinions?

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
It's adequate for the purpose, I have one for times when I want a camera which can use interchangeable lenses, but I don't want to risk an LX or MX. I'm not in love with the camera, in my opinion it's viewfinder is barely adequate a bit squinty, with low magnification and low apparent brightness

RE: MZ-M owners/users opinions?

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Not in my experience, you should be able to pick up a new ZX-M for about $160 US. I've not seen a ME Super for less than about $200, although prices have been falling on e-bay lately, but the local camera stores usually sell very good condition ME-Supers for abut $225.00. At 07:31 PM 1/1/2003

Re: Marvelous little Icelander imp

2003-01-02 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I couldn't sleep for hours. D Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:26 PM Subject:

Re: Nuns priests (was Re[2]: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Catholic Schools are something I know a good deal about. I have written a book on the subject. This thread should stop now. It is way out of line. Please don't go on with this! I'll discuss it off-list with anyone who is interested. Don Dr E D F Williams

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I sit down and plan all my shots inside by the fire. When I've decided what I'm going to do I put on two pairs of long woollen underwear. A denim shirt, a jersey and two pairs of woollen socks. A quilted snowsuit goes over the top. Finally a pair of boots with woollen liners and a fur hat. I

Re: Diffusion options for 280T flash

2003-01-02 Thread Cotty
I was wondering what people were using to diffuse the flash from the AF 280T. I couldn't find a Stofen unit made for it. Would the universal model fit? Are there other options that aren't bulky? Mark Hi Mark, http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/reflectormod.html HTH Cotty

FS Pentax digitals

2003-01-02 Thread mike wilson
Hi, http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk Optio 330, 430 EI-100 EI-2000. All Pentax factory refurbished stock, which may just mean new stuff repackaged. 330 = £180 430 = £250 100 = £70 2000 = £300 All plus VAT @ 17.5% for those who pay it. mike

Another MZ-S foible

2003-01-02 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Just got a roll back and the data imprinting is double exposed for half of the film. Can't remember if this is one I half used and then reloaded. It therefore might be as a result of incorrect loading. Anyone else? mike

Re: MZ-M owners/users opinions?

2003-01-02 Thread Bob Rapp
The difference between cameras and disposables g Bob - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not in my experience, you should be able to pick up a new ZX-M for about $160 US. I've not seen a ME Super for less than about $200, although prices have been falling on

Re: Favorite MF, K Mount, Macro Lens?

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Just to have a me to post. I'll second that about the 90-180. At 10:11 AM 1/1/2003 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Don`t know if I`ve taken more pictures than you, but I lean towards the Vivitar Series 1`s, 90/2.5 and 90-180/4.5. The 90-180 is sweet, sharp everywhere in the zoom range. Both have a 3D

Re: Diffusion options for 280T flash

2003-01-02 Thread Anton Browne
I use a universal Soften on my 280 the only possible disadvantage is that you have to put the self-adhesive holder on top of the gun. It's small enough but may mark the surface, I've never removed mine so I don't know for sure. Anton

Re: nice new year, new toys, perhaps other ramblings

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Winston Churchill on his changing parties between the world wars I believe. At 01:32 PM 1/1/2003 +, you wrote: Just remember, if you aren't a Liberal by the time you are 20, you have no heart. If you aren't a Conservative by the time you are 40, you have no brain. ;-) Just another

Re: W32.Yaha.K@mm Worm

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
There are mac viruses, they can be especially destructive, I guess the authors are frustrated by having so few targets. At 08:30 PM 1/1/2003 -0600, you wrote: I've heard of these virus thingies but have never seen one . . . Stan (from his Mac) - on 12/31/02 5:01 AM, Ken Archer at [EMAIL

Re[3]: What are the rules?

2003-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Sorry to say this, but I've deleted all the post related to the above subject. But this one I am keeping... --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57 www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625 ===8==Original message text=== I'm exhausted with this thread and propose

Re: Favorite f/stop?

2003-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! That's an odd question I think. I mean, like how much salt do you like in your soup? Well, it depends on salt brand and on soup. Honestly, I use the DOF preview button if I am going no slower than f/8. Though if there is a lot of light (landscape) I use DOF preview on slower apertures. The

Re[2]: scanner choice

2003-01-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I am sorry to interrupt this talk. I am not that experienced in scanners and stuff. But here is a little PS procedure that takes care some of the scanner noise. I use it on every image I retouch... 1. Switch to Lab Coor Mode. 2. Apply some Gaussian Blur to both non-ilghtness channels (A and

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread Feroze Kistan
waiting for the Pentax DSLR to come out and then somebody is bound to sell all their older gear real cheap:) Looking for a nice soft portrait lens, any own the Pentax soft focus 85mm lens? or do you just use pantihose like I do. Feroze - Original Message - From: Dan Scott [EMAIL

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread Feroze Kistan
Maybe they shold put a health warning on the PDML like we have on cigarettes. Feroze - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:24 PM Subject: Re: What toys you have in 2002? - Original Message - From:

Re: Diffusion options for 280T flash

2003-01-02 Thread Feroze Kistan
Have you tried a piece of sandblast vinyl over the front? Feroze - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:16 AM Subject: Re: Diffusion options for 280T flash I was wondering what people were using to diffuse the flash

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Yes. At 02:32 PM 12/31/2002 -0800, you wrote: Many years ago, someone told me that brown belts make better karate instructors than black belts because the brown belts still remember and can still describe what they do. For the black belts, on the other hand, the techniques have become

Re: W32.Yaha.K@mm Worm

2003-01-02 Thread Brendan
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Re: diffusion options for 280T

2003-01-02 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Mark D. wrote: I was wondering what people were using to diffuse the flash from the AF 280T. I couldn't find a Stofen unit made for it. Would the universal model fit? Are there other options that aren't bulky? The universal fits. I found that it tended to fall off

Marketing

2003-01-02 Thread Frankie Lee
Just looked at a N FM3A catalogue. At the last page, it said 'We take the world's greatest pictures' which is also a registered statement (Is it a registered trademark?). Not challenge the validity of this statement. But what Pentax could say if they make similar words!?

Re: diffusion for 280T

2003-01-02 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Forgot to mention my emergency diffuser. Take a translucent film tub. Discard cap, cut off the bottom. Slit from top to bottom. It now fits nicely into the grooves on the flash head which are meant for the AFT/AFW accessories. Kodak tubs give a warm glow, Fuji make people look like

Re: MZ-M owners/users opinions?

2003-01-02 Thread Brendan
The MZ-M is not a replacement for the old manual bodies IMHO but it does make a great little back up camera for an AF body, I miss my MZ-M Alot to, thankfully the student who has it is taking good care of it. __ Post your free

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Really good insulated clothing, and don't stand in one place to long you might freeze to the ground. At 10:23 AM 1/2/2003 +0200, you wrote: I sit down and plan all my shots inside by the fire. When I've decided what I'm going to do I put on two pairs of long woollen underwear. A denim shirt, a

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
** * WARNING: The Sturgeon General has determined that reading the PUG * * Mailing List may be dangerous to your mental health, and can lead * * to severe weight loss in your wallet as well as a depletion of * * monetary

For Sale Friday

2003-01-02 Thread Shaun Canning
Hi Gang, Some new listings on e-bay for you http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=SCANNI01completed=0sort=2since=-1include=0page=1rows=25 Cheers Shaun Shaun Canning Cultural

Re: MZ-M owners/users opinions?

2003-01-02 Thread Peter Alling
Pretty much they way I look at it. At 09:16 PM 1/2/2003 +1100, you wrote: The difference between cameras and disposables g Bob - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not in my experience, you should be able to pick up a new ZX-M for about $160 US. I've not seen a

Re: Diffusion options for 280T flash

2003-01-02 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Mark D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering what people were using to diffuse the flash from the AF 280T. I couldn't find a Stofen unit made for it. Would the universal model fit? Mark, When you order on Stofen's site (http://www.stofen.com) , Click On-Line Store, click Omni-Bounce Units,

Re: Marketing

2003-01-02 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Frankie Lee wrote: Not challenge the validity of this statement. But what Pentax could say if they make similar words!? In the UK, Pentax is running double page ads. On the left, a black page with a life size 6x4 of, say the Tour Eiffel or a cute child. On the right (paraphrased,

Re: Favorite MF, K Mount, Macro Lens?

2003-01-02 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does a Pentax A 100/2.8 Macro go for these days? Your wife and kids Seriously, about $600 to $700. For that bread, you can get a Voigtlander APO Lanthar 125/2.5 1:1, which Rob Studdart reports is even better. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: W32.Yaha.K@mm Worm

2003-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
I checked this one out. It is from a reliable source. There is a virus out there called the Senile Virus that even the most advanced antivirus software cannot stop. So be warned, it appears to affect those who were born before 1958! Symptoms of Senile Virus 1. Causes you to send same

Re: Arf!

2003-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if we're talking about exactly the same thing. You see, I think what you've done is an example of pure empiricism at work. I think *all* the so-called rules are examples of pure empiricism at work. That's why in my earlier post I used the term

Re: Least exspensive 4000-4800 dpi scanner

2003-01-02 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody know what is the least expensive 35mm film scanner that has 4000-4800 dpi resolution? the Canon seems to be the price leader. no Digital ICE though, something called FARE instead, and some people report here that enabling that makes the

Re: W32.Yaha.K@mm Worm

2003-01-02 Thread Brendan
Trust me I don't think there is an age limit to this one, I know many born in the 60's and even late 70's who are also afflicted. --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked this one out. It is from a reliable source. There is a virus out there called the Senile Virus that even the

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams Subject: Re: Pish-posh and balderdash Try a wooden tripod. They are not as cold to handle as metal. My cold weather closthing is insulated (thermal) underwear and socks, then heavy fleece pants and jacket (from Mountain Equipment Co-op, the

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
William Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Butch Black wrote: Actually, while the face is nicely in the vertical line I think that it is too low for the horizontal line. The fact that a number of PUG images fell into the area of near but not right on the intersection points illustrates my point that

Re: Least exspensive 4000-4800 dpi scanner

2003-01-02 Thread Brendan
I have a lead on a used Poloroid Sprintscan 4000 ( not the plus ) for about $300-$400, any ideas? __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Re: Least exspensive 4000-4800 dpi scanner

2003-01-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Damn you :-) Dave Original Message: - From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:11:47 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Least exspensive 4000-4800 dpi scanner Aaron is the lead it's his old scanner :-) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Utility of 645 Format(was Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re:Medium Format-Which one is best?))

2003-01-02 Thread John Whicker
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Utility of 645 Format(was Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re:Medium Format-Which one is best?)) John wrote: I can honestly say that I have never seen any

Re: Digital backs for 645

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Henry wrote: Is digital back the only viable digital solution for 645? Pentax has always been saying that 645 is designed as a superior FIELD camera. I don't think a digital back as final 645 solution make much sense. Firstly, you can cut 25% off the 645 size be removing the film insert.

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
John wrote: Photographers come from many different backgrounds. But there are really only two; the technician and the artist. Not really, There are also everything in between. I don't think you can really separate the artistry from the technique. But the artist sees the picture in the

Re: Utility of 645 Format(was Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re:Medium Format-Which one is best?))

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
David wrote: Pal, can you please set out with names of the professional photographers in the UK that are currently using the Pentax 645? This will at least clear the air and put this argument to rest if you can list them for us. What kind idiocy is this? I cannot list the UK pro

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
John Whicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Vic, Photographers come from many different backgrounds. But there are really only two; the technician and the artist. Nonsense. There are an infinite number of different kinds of photographers. Technician and Artist are the extreme ends of the long line

Re: Utility of 645 Format(was Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re:Medium Format-Which one is best?))

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
John wrote: John wrote: I can honestly say that I have never seen any professional photographer in the UK using a Pentax 645. I can honestly said that this only proves your complete ignorance. So in which part of the UK do you live and work as a professional photographer, and

Re: Child prodigies

2003-01-02 Thread John Whicker
Hi Mike, I was given my first camera in 1961 at the age of seven, had my first picture published at the age of eight, and was being published regularly by the time I was twelve, albeit in the local newspaper. Now, at 48, I am just another mediocre hack. What went wrong? Well, at the age of 16,

Re: De Gustibus

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
No offense taken. We're all friends here, and adults. Well, except for one or two people I won't name. g --Mike Mike, I'm, sorry, but I don't know anything about your education that wasn't admitted here. If you go back a couple of generations in this thread you will find that Marnie

RE: Least exspensive 4000-4800 dpi scanner

2003-01-02 Thread J. C. O'Connell
model # ? I wont need ICE/FARE as I'll be scanning new clean negs. JCO -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:23 AM To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Least exspensive 4000-4800 dpi scanner Message text

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Cotty
I've got 12 inches, but I never use it as a rule Boom boom! :-) Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/

OT: cold

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
By the way - how on earth can you stay outdoors for 2 hours at -40C? I once went winter camping when it was significantly below 0 degrees F. I woke up with my head (hair) frozen to the floor of the tent and stuck fast. I have a feeling a similar experience would kill me today. I'm not very

RE: Least exspensive 4000-4800 dpi scanner

2003-01-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JCO, make sure that you're aware that the Canon FS4000 does not have an eject button on the hardware and the negs/film strips can only be ejected at the software level. check discussion and the review at: http://www.imaging-resource.com/SCAN/FS4000/FS40A.HTM Cheers, Dave Original Message:

RE: Least exspensive 4000-4800 dpi scanner

2003-01-02 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I wont need ICE/FARE as I'll be scanning new clean negs. JCO that doesn't remove the need for them. at 4000dpi, you will see a lot of stuff that shouldn't be there. Herb...

Re: Chicken****

2003-01-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will concede that I've been outpointed in this debate by the estimable Mr Walkden, but as for the rest of you, only ONE person who has defended the rules has so far had the guts to step forward and actually NAME any of them. I think a couple have

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread Keith Whaley
Oh dear...I started reading this thread, and after counting up my acquisitions for this past year, I'm almost too embarrassed to list them all! I like the older Pentaxes, and for years now have been using my trusty MG, with a SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/2.0. It all started with getting a backup MG body,

Re: Glass houses

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: No, I wasn't paying any attention to music is pure mathematics, and my response had nothing to do with it. I was the one who staed that music is pure mathematics. By this I don't mean that music is only matematics, but that if you take the matematics out of music you are left

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Bob Blakely
I suspect that _all_ rules of competition may have been empirically derived (or discovered). They are the result of critics separating out the images (painting, watercolor, photography, whatever) that stand the test of time and acclaim from those that are, well, mundane. The rules arose from a

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2003-01-02 Thread John Whicker
Pål, The square format provides valuable versatility. It would be a waste only if it offered little or nothing in return for using more film than 645. In practice, the versatility of 6x6 offers far greater value than the tiny cost of what you say it wastes. I regard it as an *investment* with

Re: Pish-posh and balderdash

2003-01-02 Thread Pentxuser
Sorry Tony but your explanation is way too simplistic. If only it were that easy. There are artists and there are technicians so if you are not an artist guys you may as well forget about ever trying to create a photograph that even comes close to a piece of art. I think you are right in

Re: Favorite MF, K Mount, Macro Lens?

2003-01-02 Thread Fred
I have used the Tamron SP 90mm f/2.5 and f/2.8 macro lenses for as long as I can remember. [snip] The Tamron is not only a very sharp macro lens, but it has outstanding bokeh, so it doubles as a fine portrait lens. Which Tamron macro (90/2.5 or 90/2.8) are you referring to in the second

Re: MZ-S foible

2003-01-02 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Paal wrote: The MZ-S prints on rewind so the roll has to have been rewinded twice. Makes sense. The roll is doubled on the first part, with a blank frame where it stops. I will try to see if the doubled ones are overwritten with the same reading. This will be why Pentax developed the

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread Keith Whaley
Good job, Peter! keith whaley Peter Alling wrote: ** * WARNING: The Sturgeon General has determined that reading the PUG * * Mailing List may be dangerous to your mental health, and can lead * * to severe weight loss in

Re: Chicken****

2003-01-02 Thread Pentxuser
Mike I will put together my guidelines for composition when I have a little time over the weekend. But like I said before, once I tell you, I may have to kill you.(LOL) Vic

Re: Marketing

2003-01-02 Thread Steve Desjardins
What can they say?The point of any ad is to sell a product, and your conclusion cannot be we are one of many fine camera brands available. Even if skill is more important there is a reason why we on this list buy Pentax instead of those other scurvy dawg brands (I love that phrase.) Also,

Live and let live

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
I am not sure, but I do believe Mike Johnston is trying to get across the same thing that I am. Rules kill creativity. They are paint by numbers, be safe, avoid criticism, not reach out and grab folks by the guts art. Tom, I do believe we are. Although Bob W. effectively skewered me by

Digital PUG theme

2003-01-02 Thread Steve Desjardins
Q: does a scanned film image that is heavily modified by photoshop count as digital? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Konica S3

2003-01-02 Thread Joe Wilensky
I had an Auto S3 for a while -- a beautiful camera and lens, though it feels just a bit flimsier overall than a Canonet GIII, for example. The S3 doesn't have TTL flash, but it does have a unique flash feature to rangefinders of that era. Like most '70s rangefinders, it uses guide number flash

Re: Iron man Theriault

2003-01-02 Thread gfen
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Mike Johnston wrote: Well hats off to you. I always thought bike messengers had to be young (and, er, crazy, no offense) to withstand the rigors of the job. My body feels as if it's falling apart just doing more than sitting here typing! Well, in his case old and crazy...

OT: Dancer in the Dark

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
But since I've already made my contribution to the collective memory with Bjork's name, I'll have to depend on someone else to supply the title of the movie...I can't remember it :-( Dancer in the Dark. My girlfriend's been hounding me to watch it for awhile, it finally made it over

Re: Favorite MF, K Mount, Macro Lens?

2003-01-02 Thread Pentxuser
Somehow I have managed to collect a Tokina AT-X 90 2.5, a Pentax 100/f4 and a Kiron 105/f2.8. I love them all and they were probably all made around the same time. I think the golden age of fine photographic lenses with excellent build quality was in the 70-80s. At least it was for me... There

Re: Glass houses

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
No, I wasn't paying any attention to music is pure mathematics, and my response had nothing to do with it. It was rules of composition, and exercises. Are you going to be such a slippery weasel that I have to find, and repost your specific comments on this issue? Changing the subject also

Re: Arf!

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
It doesn't matter if you figured out yourself or someone did it for you 150 years ago... Oh, but it does. It's the difference between derivative and original. --Mike

Re: OT: Dancer in the Dark

2003-01-02 Thread gfen
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Mike Johnston wrote: Well, be prepared. It packs an emotional wallop. Not exactly light Hollywood fare. But the music is enchanting, especially the way that the songs work their way into the main character's consciousness as fantasy, and found rhythms excites her

Re: Chicken****

2003-01-02 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm going to start compiling a list. #1 - sit down and plan all my shots - Dr E D F Williams ;-) focus on the subject. Herb

Just a guy on the wrong damn mailing list?

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
You can stop playing the fool. This isn't a group of high school students, and I don't need to be lead by some patronizing ass. You're just another guy on the internet, that wet his pants with a 50mm Pentax lens. Big deal. And you are...? g --Mike

Re: Digital PUG theme

2003-01-02 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Thursday 02 January 2003 10:37, Steve Desjardins wrote: Q: does a scanned film image that is heavily modified by photoshop count as digital? Steven Desjardins Wouldn't just a scanned image be digital? Why would it need to be modified in any way since it has already been digitized by

Re: Utility of 645 Format(was Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re:Medium Format-Which one is best?))

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
David wrote: I'm merely asking for a backup to your statement. If you claim that someone is ignorant because they don't know anyone who is a professional photographer in the UK using a Pentax 645, No. Someone claimed that his lack of knowledge about something proved some point (which

Re: Arf!

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: Mike's originally stated that there were no rules. He didn't qualify his statement in any way. Your view is that one type of rule is different than another, based on semantics, Mike didn't make any distinction. I'm not aware of the laws of physics so that gravity doesn't

Re: Chicken****

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: I will concede that I've been outpointed in this debate by the estimable Mr Walkden, but as for the rest of you, only ONE person who has defended the rules has so far had the guts to step forward and actually NAME any of them. I think this discussion will have to end here unless

Syntax 101

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
Rules are rules. Empirically derived, or otherwise. Try to pick a story and stick to. ...it? Try to pick and sentence structure and write to. --Mike

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
John wrote: In practice, the versatility of 6x6 offers far greater value than the tiny cost of what you say it wastes. I regard it as an *investment* with an especially good pay-off, and I feel sure that most 6x6 users would agree it's worth paying for. Definitely *not* a waste! And

Re: Arf!

2003-01-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Mike wrote: Oh, but it does. It's the difference between derivative and original. Nope. You can point your camera in any direction; shooting wildly and be creative and experiment. However, those image that works will comply with some rule someone else figured out long ago. Litterally billions

Re: Iron man Theriault

2003-01-02 Thread frank theriault
Hi, gfen wrote: Well, in his case old and crazy... :) Well, you decide: http://www.nrg666.com/pdml/portraits/pages/FrankTheriault.htm (I know, I know, I drag this one out every so often, but it just seemed to fit the comment made about me vbg) -frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread Paul Eriksson
What I got in 2002: ZX-L AF360FGZ FA 24mm f2.0 FA 35mm f2.0 FA 50mm f1.4 F 100mm macro f2.8 Sigma 28mm f1.8 (sold) Plans for 2003: FA 200mm f2.8, I don't know, we'll see. Paul _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months

Re: Chicken****

2003-01-02 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Suck it up guy! You were the one who stated that there weren't any rules: prove it! Be the first one to prove a negative. I know your ego is up to it. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will concede that I've been outpointed in this debate by the estimable Mr Walkden, but as for the rest of you,

Re: 6x6 - Waste of Space? (WAS: Re: Medium Format-Which one is best?)

2003-01-02 Thread gfen
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: And thats what I'm saying. It is a waste but many find it worth paying for. Then its NOT a waste for them, now is it? Its a waste to you based on how you use your camera. It was a waste to me based on how I used my camera. It makes perfect

Re: Syntax 101

2003-01-02 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
When you won't address the content, throw sand. Chump tactic. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...it? Try to pick and sentence structure and write to. --Mike -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread gfen
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Paul Eriksson wrote: What I got in 2002: Wow, I wouldn't even know where to begin.. I got lots of things, some of them useless, some of them not useless.. but most importantly, the three items that stand out was a gifted 4x5 camera, a Pentax 645, and AF280T. Now I can

RE: Iron man Theriault

2003-01-02 Thread Malcolm Smith
Mike Johnston wrote: Frank, Well hats off to you. I always thought bike messengers had to be young (and, er, crazy, no offense) to withstand the rigors of the job. My body feels as if it's falling apart just doing more than sitting here typing! Seriously, every now and then I will pull

Re: What toys you have in 2002?

2003-01-02 Thread frank theriault
H: From what I can remember: Bodies: MX with Winder MX (did I buy that from you this year, Bill? I think so...) Leica CL MV (which I still have to mail to someone - damn, I keep forgetting) K mount lenses: Takumar 2.5 135 (bayonet) (yes, the dog - but I like it anyway) Pentax SMC M 2.0 50

Re: Child prodigies

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
I was given my first camera in 1961 at the age of seven, had my first picture published at the age of eight, and was being published regularly by the time I was twelve, albeit in the local newspaper. Now, at 48, I am just another mediocre hack. What went wrong? Well, at the age of 16,

Re: Digital PUG theme

2003-01-02 Thread Pentxuser
I thought this month's PUG was supposed to be digital image. That's why I submitted the image I did. Three shots photoshopped into one... When I saw the PUG I realized I was either wrong or a scanned image counts as digital.. Vic In a message dated 1/2/03 10:49:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

...But please don't kill me

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Johnston
Mike I will put together my guidelines for composition when I have a little time over the weekend. Vic, Great! I'll be interested to hear. --Mike

Re: Another MZ-S foible

2003-01-02 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Pål, The MZ-S prints on rewind so the roll has to have been rewinded twice. Does this mean, that the MZ-S stores the exposure data and prints it only when the film rewinds? I would have assumed that the MZ-S imprints the data immediately after the exposure was made. Regards, Heiko

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