Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Raimo Korhonen
What Leica uses Zeiss lenses? Do you understand these two things? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 23.

Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Raimo Korhonen
No, they are not: Leica M7 2350 USD Contax G2 1400 USD with 2/45 lens Konica Hexar RF 1000 USD Voigtländer Bessa R2 650 USD All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
I am constantly amazed by how some people thought everyone must be shooting at f8 with tripod all the time. regards, Alan Chan Marnie: Don't get caught in the trap of thinking that better pictures are made by different camera manufactuerers or better zoom lenses etc etc... There are too many

Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
Give me a break Bruce there are always exceptions. A tripod is still the photographers best friend unless you like blurry pics.. IS/VR is developed to overcome this to certain degree. It doesn't replace tripod completely, but when you need that extra stops which aren't there, IS/VR is your best

Archives of PDML

2003-06-23 Thread Piotr Chabowski
Where I find archives of PDML theese sites is avaible http://www.pentax.com/discussionarch.html http://discuss.pentax.com/pipermail/pentax-discuss/ BRONSON

Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
It seems that it is getting to the point that it is almost not worth commenting on anything anymore. I wouldn't even mind having Brad Dobo back compared to the current drivel that is going on. Perhaps he is still with us. :-) regards, Alan Chan

Re: MX Advance Lever Question

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
Tell you what, you don't need special tool for the job. Don't be fooled by the holes. Just use a piece of rubber will do. When done correctly, it won't got loosen again. When overtighten, it can break. So beware. regards, Alan Chan Hey everyone, Playing with an MX. I got into photography

Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?

2003-06-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Jun 2003 at 23:59, Alan Chan wrote: Give me a break Bruce there are always exceptions. A tripod is still the photographers best friend unless you like blurry pics.. IS/VR is developed to overcome this to certain degree. It doesn't replace tripod completely, but when you need that

Re: MX Advance Lever Question

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
There is no doubt the nut should be tight and the lever should be free. I don't know the MX, but to me it sounds like there's a spacer missing under the nut. Perhaps it (the nut) came right off some time and the washer was lost? The solution is to make a washer. It probably needs to be only a few

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
It's survived two falls in the space of six months without skipping a beat - that's build quality. I remember someone here mentioned a MZ-? was dropped from the roof and it survived. It isn't no MZ-S. That's quality. It does everything it should every time - that's build quality. There were

Re: Archives of PDML

2003-06-23 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Piotr Chabowski wrote: Where I find archives of PDML http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/ One suggestion for Doug: this link should be available in www.pdml.net -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Archives of PDML

2003-06-23 Thread Maciej Marchlewski
Dnia 23-06-2003 o godz. 9:26 Lawrence Kwan napisa(a): http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/ One suggestion for Doug: this link should be available in www.pdml.net You ask for it, you get it. Check here: http://www.pdml.net/dbrewer/p4.html (on the bottom of the page) :-)

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread jcoyle
Alan, I'm afraid your last remark betrays exactly how much you know about the MZ-S. I won't even bother to comment upon your second-hand and negative points, since the original question was directed at _owners_ of the MZ-S, who really are the only people qualified to comment upon what the camera

Re: macro experiment update

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
I believe the Auto Tak 55/1.8 has 10mm of helical extension. Anyway, my mouldy old SMC Tak 55/2 has 10mm helical extension and is reputably the same basic lens with a restrictor. If you wound the helical out fully, with a 10mm tube added, you require very slightly less than a stop extra

Re: MZ-S Price (Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress)

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
Looks to me like the Canadian agent wants to earn more from reselling an MZ-S than Pentax Corp earns by building them. Politely put it's the tail wagging the dog. Bluntly put, the agent is being a greedy parasite. It's the same everywhere, unfortunately :-( - Original Message - From:

Re: MX Advance Lever Question

2003-06-23 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Don't forget you can dpwnload the MX servie manual: http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm Thank's Mark ! Michel Hey everyone, Playing with an MX. I got into photography with a ZX-M so I am a bit spoiled by its automation so I have what is really a question about any mechanical camera. I was

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
Alan, I'm afraid your last remark betrays exactly how much you know about the MZ-S. I have never said I know the MZ-S. I simply raise some questions. I won't even bother to comment upon your second-hand and negative points, Why not? Is that question not fair? By all means carry on comparing spec

Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?

2003-06-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Alan, No, he couldn't resist chiming in on some of these threads. Bruce Monday, June 23, 2003, 12:01:58 AM, you wrote: It seems that it is getting to the point that it is almost not worth commenting on anything anymore. I wouldn't even mind having Brad Dobo back compared to the current

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Herb Chong
if you believe that these are reasonable substitutes, i have a Minolta Himatic that should fall into these categories too. Herb... - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 03:23 Subject: Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

67 or 645??

2003-06-23 Thread kanga
I do alot of landscape photography and have been selling so work lately. it was suggested to me that for larger prints A3 and above medium format is the way to go. this is what i have come to 645 pros - AF, wider angle of view (most of my 35mm shots are between 15 - 30mm most at 20mm), more

RE: (o)possums (was: Agfa Competition)

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Ewins
The possums in my area are all ringtails, however one of my friends is looking after an orphaned brushtail. They're very cute when young, but like most Australian wildlife will make good use of their claws when older. He also has a juvenile wombat, and the family resemblance between possums,

Re: That AGFA competition

2003-06-23 Thread Feroze Kistan
try www.agfa.com under Pro Photo Labs Feroze - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 4:06 AM Subject: That AGFA competition Would someone send me the link or info? I've been barely able to even skim pdml for

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Feroze Kistan
When Pal's broke he did mail me some pics of the inards of the MZS taken by the techie. I'll try and find them, or perhaps he still has them. Quite a bit is metal though. I have to say that I've never seriously damaged a Pentax camera or any other one for that matter. The other ones were a Z70, a

MZ-S (WAS: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress)

2003-06-23 Thread Pål Jensen
Rob wrote: It's rock solid, I haven't subjected it to a good soaking yet but it's still a baby. REPLY: It is the most brick-like of any Pentax 35mm camera. According to the engineers it has the most rigid body of all Pentaxes ever. Pål

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 23.06.03 16:29, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had 2 of them for about a year, they didn't break. I think it's a solid camera except for the back. Back is not that bad, although plastic. Actually ou will find plastic back on Nikon F100 too. Real problem could be latch pin - it is only one

Re: Lens Mount Progress !!

2003-06-23 Thread Caveman
Get your facts straight again. 1) measurbator is about people obsessed with 100% accurate metering; I've noticed only one until now 2) I have used the word liar only once, in this context: I read a lot of pro advice and discussion about how it should actually be rated at 40, and how Fuji is a

*ist SLR BG-20 battery grip.

2003-06-23 Thread Harold Owen
I have recently received an email from Pentax UK regarding the pricing of the BG-20 battery grip for the Pentax *ist SLR. They quote the following price for the grip:- the BG-20 grip, part number 39555 will be available soon, the price is £89.99. This item should improve the handling of the

Re: The Myth of the *ist is entry level

2003-06-23 Thread Harold Owen
I have read this a couple of time on this list, but it is is wrong. The *ist has separate dials for shutter and aperture (unlike the MZ/ZX7) Alexander As has already been mentioned the *ist SLR has a single dial for setting shutter speeds and aperture. This is not a great problem (to

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Herb Chong
i can. a person who wants a Leica doesn't want anything remotely less in cost. that is what cachet does. cost is in of itself a feature. Herb - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 09:26 Subject: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens

Re: Lens Mount Progress !!

2003-06-23 Thread Caveman
Pål Jensen wrote: REPLY: A meter is designed to assign whatever it is metering to a calibrated value. Seems that you have some serious problems with the definition of a meter. If you are against dictionaries, please feel free to use for the scope of this discussion *the* reference:

Re: Canon 50s compared at photo.net

2003-06-23 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo and interesting comparision, but the flare is bad on the Conon lenses. Would be a Pentax 50mm better? It would be interesting to have comparsion to a Pentax 50mm lens. regards Rüdiger Von: Evan Hanson Over at photo.net they have a comparison of the EF 50 1.8 vs. EF 50 1.4. IMHO both

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
Well, if you're compiling a list of cameras that aren't Leicas, then I suppose only one camera marque is disqualified from inclusion. I believe Raimo was listing a few cameras that fulfil the same function as a Leica. But I wasn't aware that actually BEING a Leica was a requisite. regards,

Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Actually there was the assertion that the other current rangefinders have prices close to Leica´s. That is not the case, Leica is the most expensive by a wide margin and my list of the cameras and prices was presented to emphasise this. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at

Re: Swapping screens across bodies

2003-06-23 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
I'm aware that LX and MX screens can be swapped across bodies (standard caveat: LX screen in MX body- add +1/3 to EV). Are the PZ-1P and MZ-S screens the same size and configuration? Are they brighter than the LX screens? -Lon Hi Lon, the crosscompatibility is there, but not as

Re: Lens Mount Progress !!

2003-06-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
And you have sunk to his level, which is exactly what he was seeking. Pål Jensen wrote: Oh give me a break! You have been insulting this whole forum the last couple of weeks by claiming people that disagree with you are measurebators, liars, cheats, pretenders, snapshooters, not able to

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
Oh, I see now. Other rangefinders are just as expensive as Leicas, unless someone actually proves that they're not. In which case Leicas are so much more expensive because they have 'cachet'. Expensive item, that 'cachet' stuff ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From:

Re: Canon 50s compared at photo.net

2003-06-23 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
From: Anthony Farr Another Canonite wrote about the two 50s: Both are great but in different ways. I tried the 1.8/50 when I thought about switching to 10D or D60, and all samples I tried (new in shop) were very disappointing at 2/3 out field performance, and that's on a reduced (not full

Re: 67 or 645??

2003-06-23 Thread T Rittenhouse
My silly thought is that once you are going to put the camera on a tripod you might just as well go to large format and be done with it. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003

Opinions needed about SMC M 35/2.8

2003-06-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I am about to buy the above lens in Excellent condition from KEH. Well, as a matter of fact a friend of mine is about to buy this lens which then be brought over to Israel. Anyway, is there anyone on the list who actually has/had this lens and used it? If so, I would very much like to hear

entirely and completely OT. Well, it _is_ kind of about photography..

2003-06-23 Thread gfen
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=816ncid=816e=3u=/ap/20030621/ap_on_en_ot/lithuania_shooting_blind (I deleted alot of PDML messages yesterday, I apologize if this made the rounds) -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye.

RE: Canon 50s compared at photo.net

2003-06-23 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Rüdiger Neumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo and interesting comparision, but the flare is bad on the Conon lenses. I wouldn't say it's bad, but it's not as good as SMC. Would be a Pentax 50mm better? It would be interesting to have comparsion to a

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Monday, June 23, 2003, 5:09:07 PM, you wrote: i can. a person who wants a Leica doesn't want anything remotely less in cost. I have 2 Leica Ms. I'd like another, and I'd have been very happy indeed if they cost a lot less money. that is what cachet does. cost is in of itself a feature.

Re: Canon 50s compared at photo.net

2003-06-23 Thread Caveman
Rüdiger Neumann wrote: Hallo and interesting comparision, but the flare is bad on the Conon lenses. Would be a Pentax 50mm better? This is the worst I ever took out of the Pentax M 50/1.4: http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/Scan9a.jpg http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/Scan13a.jpg No filter or hood.

Re: Swapping screens across bodies

2003-06-23 Thread T Rittenhouse
Rule: Fine ground glass = bright image, difficult to focus Course ground glass = dim image, easy to focus As in all such tradeoffs, you need to find the balance that works best for you. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Frantisek Vlcek

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Herb Chong
are they still using them as their primary camera? Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 14:15 Subject: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress that must be why the world's great photojournalists have

Re: Opinions needed about SMC M 35/2.8

2003-06-23 Thread William Johnson
Hi, My buddy has one, I have used it a few times and informally compared it to the K30/2.8 and Super Takumar 35/3.5. It is a reasonably sharp lens, though not outstanding, about on par with the FA28-70/4 at middle apertures. It is ok wide open. It exhibits a warm color balance (in comparison to

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Herb Chong
incidentally, that is a fine description of cachet. you use X because famous Y uses X. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 14:15 Subject: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress that must be why the

Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?

2003-06-23 Thread Pentxuser
John's answer is a very good one. If you are shooting primarily prints you need to find a good printer. I shoot slides and prints. When I take my prints to a quick and dirty foto finisher I begin to doubt myself and my equipment. When I shoot slides, I realize it is just the foto finisher. If

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread T Rittenhouse
Is that so? Most Leica owner's will be diapointed to hear that as they thought Leica lenses were better than Zeiss lenses. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22,

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Blivit4
Less than there used to be, and now mostly in documentary photography. It also tends to be older photographers who have been using them a very long time. When you've used a camera so long that you don't have to think about working the controls and it's quiet and descrete, it becomees the

Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?

2003-06-23 Thread Pentxuser
Please not Brad... Vic In a message dated 6/22/03 10:01:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vic, It seems that it is getting to the point that it is almost not worth commenting on anything anymore. I wouldn't even mind having Brad Dobo back compared to the current drivel that is going on.

Re: Happy Pentax to me

2003-06-23 Thread Andre Langevin
Writing the previous message with 10 years ago.. I just noticed that this year I should celebrate 10 years since I got my first Pentax. cheers, caveman Gee, you make me think I just passed my 20th birthday. MX in spring 1983. Andre --

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Caveman
You are probably aware that after you stated that Leica cameras use Zeiss lenses, your credibility level in what concerns Leica is 0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Less than there used to be, and now mostly in documentary photography. It also tends to be older photographers who have been using them a

Re: Happy Pentax to me

2003-06-23 Thread Katrin
Feroze Kistan wrote: Now I feel like a baby, I was born in 1971. You are a baby... I graduated high school the year before you were born! ;-) -- what should I fee like...? I wasn't even planned in 1971 ^_- I was born in 1977 well, I bought me first Pentax (a ME)

Re: Canon 50s compared at photo.net

2003-06-23 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo, I had only flare problems with my Pentax FA 28-200 (which is a Tamron) and that will be a surprice with my 1.9/43. regards Rüdiger Von: Caveman and interesting comparision, but the flare is bad on the Conon lenses. Would be a Pentax 50mm better? This is the worst I ever took out of the

Vs: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Raimo Korhonen
I have not found any cachet in my M6 - and it is not mentioned in the user´s manual either. It is 18 years old, maybe newer versions have it? A look at the price lists will show you the prices if you are interested. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at

Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux

2003-06-23 Thread Lon Williamson
To my eye, this old pentax lens has less flare than the newer Canon. Of course, the shots are different. I've always wondered if Pentax SMC is really better, but I'm beginning to suspect it is. I have 5 third party primes and one third party zoom. Particularly, with the zoom, there are shots I

Re: Swapping screens across bodies

2003-06-23 Thread Lon Williamson
I agree. That may be why I like KXen so much. Dim but _very_ easy to focus. T Rittenhouse wrote: Rule: Fine ground glass = bright image, difficult to focus Course ground glass = dim image, easy to focus As in all such tradeoffs, you need to find the balance that works best for you.

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Monday, June 23, 2003, 7:44:26 PM, you wrote: are they still using them as their primary camera? yes, a great many of them are. Tom Stoddart does, so do people like Dario Mitidieri, Claus Bjorn Larsen, Kai Wiedenhofer, Joachim Ladefoged - all fairly young, all recent winners of World Press

Re: Dumb Q - Pentax FA/F Lenses on *ist D?

2003-06-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jun 2003 at 16:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also disagree with this statement. IS/VR will never take the place of a tripod. They are excellent for a number of situations to buy a couple of stops but they are not a replacement for a tripod. Fast lenses and fast film are also not

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress them, grow to love them.. Those who don't appreciate them go buy a fully loaded clone or a fully loaded sport-ute or a Canon with 45 eye-focus points and then they go out and take blurry handheld

Re: Opinions needed about SMC M 35/2.8

2003-06-23 Thread Caveman
Peter Spiro wrote: 35mm is my favorite focal length, and at one time or another I have tried almost all of them, and I have posted some comparisons at http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/infinitytest.htm I found something intriguing there. You were using this method: The film photos were printed

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread whickersworld
Artur Ledóchowski wrote: What the hell?! All I said was the MZ-S is overpriced! Nothing more! Artur, I agree. Pentax UK appear to agree with you too; the best street price of the MZ-S is now almost exactly half the Pentax UK list price. It was overpriced at GBP 1099.99, but I will probably

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jun 2003 at 5:41, Steve Larson wrote: The 50/1 designation just looks so weird when you are used to seeing 50/1.2, 50/1.4 etc. Awesome glass! OK, I admit it, I`m a Leica wannabe. BTW, are you going Canon? Only time will tell, I'll be a little more decisive at the end of August I guess.

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Bob Rapp
- Original Message - From: Artur Ledóchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually if a photographer is unable to take sharp pics, no brand name will help him - be it Canon or Pentax. 45-points AF is built into the top class bodies only. Mid class stuff has up to 7 points (EOS 30/33/Elan 7/7e),

Re: Sigma 15-30mm (was: Lens Mount Progress)

2003-06-23 Thread whickersworld
Herb Chong wrote: i have to point out that my standard of comparison is the FA* 80-200 f2.8. Thanks Herb, understood. John

Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
How 'bout it folks, is SMC hype or real? Don't know if other lenses have problem with shot like this. It was taken with SMC-A 70-210/4 without filter. I once compared it against my friend's Nikkor AF80-200/2.8 which shown more flare in viewfinder. The cameras were P50 F90X.

Re: Opinions needed about SMC M 35/2.8

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
I had the A35/2.8 which was said to be identical to the M. I did some landscape shots with it and thought it wasn't particular sharp as a prime lens. regards, Alan Chan I am about to buy the above lens in Excellent condition from KEH. Well, as a matter of fact a friend of mine is about to buy

Re: Opinions needed about SMC M 35/2.8

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
I would like to point out that this A was better built than the M which might have aging spring. I stripped down both before. This A has metal aperture ring, not plastic. regards, Alan Chan I am about to buy the above lens in Excellent condition from KEH. Well, as a matter of fact a friend of

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jun 2003 at 18:13, Herb Chong wrote: what were the total unit sales of the M bodies at the time? there are several instances of retailing products where raising the price increased sales. to charge this much, they must have something. that's cachet, invented or real. Honda discovered

Re: Swapping screens across bodies

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
Are the PZ-1P and MZ-S screens the same size and configuration? Are they brighter than the LX screens? AFAIK, Z/PZ and MZ/ZX screens have identical dimensions. LX/MX screens are slightly bigger. And yes, they are brighter smoother than original MX/LX screens. I use the MZ-M screen in MX and

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Herb, My info was slightly inaccurate, as it appears that about 65,000 Leica badged CL's were produced, with a few more Minolta or Leica/Minolta badged CL's produced for the Japanese market. That figure (65,000) is about twice as many as the M series produced during the time the CL was

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
Back is not that bad, although plastic. Actually ou will find plastic back on Nikon F100 too. Real problem could be latch pin - it is only one and could eventually break badly treated - in F100 there are two of them for security. Seems to be a common problem for most plastic backs, including the

Re: 67 or 645??

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
But I shoot a lot of hand held with my 6x7, perhaps more than 50%. I did a fashion shoot this weekend with strobes, my 6x7, and my hands. I even do some street shooting with the 6x7. My July PUG is a 6x7, 300/4, hand held street shot. But then again, I've even shot large format handheld. Of course

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I looked at some old Leicas because I love cameras, and Leicas are so much a part of the history of photography. I bought one because I fell in love with the beautiful metalwork, the solid feel of the mechanics, and the whisper of the shutter. Paul

Re: Swapping screens across bodies

2003-06-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jun 2003 at 14:42, T Rittenhouse wrote: Rule: Fine ground glass = bright image, difficult to focus Course ground glass = dim image, easy to focus As in all such tradeoffs, you need to find the balance that works best for you. Rules are made to be broken and I think you'll find that

Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux

2003-06-23 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:52:36 +0100, Bob Walkden wrote: How 'bout it folks, is SMC hype or real? I never knew what flare was until I switched from Pentax to Contax. I have to agree with Bob on this one. And I'm not kidding or exaggerating. Sure, I'd encountered point flare a couple of times

RE: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux

2003-06-23 Thread Len Paris
Wow! That's amazing. Pentax and Zeiss jointly developed multi-coating technology. I've used Zeiss T* coated lenses on both Hasselblad and Contax cameras and have not found them to be inferior to SMC. I didn't keep my Pentax 43mm f/1.9 Ltd lens long enough to give it a real flare test against

RE: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux

2003-06-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Same here.. I've used both the Blad and the G2 and have never had a problem with flare. And I don't use a shade on my 80mm T*. I don't see what the big hubub is about. I've got the Canon 50mm. I've never experienced flare. I'm not pointing my lens directly into the sun mind you. I have, however,

Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux

2003-06-23 Thread Paul
Hi, I have a blad and i find that the coating on my T* 80mm is not as good as my pentax primes. The coating on Leica lenses is also quite good, but not as good as SMC. Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24,

Too many posts!

2003-06-23 Thread collinb
Y'all should be out shooting! :) CRB

Job tomorrow

2003-06-23 Thread collinb
Our church puts on a free soccer clinic We're bringing in 3 guys from the Columbus Crew for kids 6-12. Should be fun to shoot. (Will likely be published in the AIA journal.) Collin

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread frank theriault
I wasn't comparing M bodies with the CL. I was merely pointing out that some Leica owners (as if we're all the same!) aren't buying a Leica because it's more expensive. I was trying to refute Herb's position, and here's his quote: a person who wants a Leica doesn't want anything remotely less

Re: Too many posts!

2003-06-23 Thread Bill Owens
We have! During the wedding festivities this past weekend I shot about 200 exposures in the Optio S, 2 rolls of 120 in the 645, 2 rolls of Delta 100 in the MZ-S and God only knows how many rolls the wife ran through her ZX-L. Bill - Original Message - From: collinb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Job tomorrow

2003-06-23 Thread frank theriault
Sounds cool. What's AIA journal? And, if you're published, will it pay? (not that it's important, just curious). cheers, frank collinb wrote: Our church puts on a free soccer clinic We're bringing in 3 guys from the Columbus Crew for kids 6-12. Should be fun to shoot. (Will likely be

OT: trivia

2003-06-23 Thread Herb Chong
i'm reading Mark Twain's Following the Equator and in a few places he uses the verb to kodak and the noun kodak in the sense that we use the word photograph today. the book was written around 1897. Herb...

Re: OT: trivia

2003-06-23 Thread frank theriault
That's cool! I love trivia - in fact, my whole life is a collection of trivial, unimportant events (but I digress...). I suppose that around the turn of the last century, the only cameras available to the general public (other than big, bulky, hard to use view cameras) were Eastman Kodaks.

Re: OT: trivia

2003-06-23 Thread Nick Zentena
On June 23, 2003 09:55 pm, frank theriault wrote: That's cool! I love trivia - in fact, my whole life is a collection of trivial, unimportant events (but I digress...). I suppose that around the turn of the last century, the only cameras available to the general public (other than big,

Re: OT: trivia

2003-06-23 Thread frank theriault
Now that you mention it, I think you're right, Nick. I wonder if anyone had two or more cameras, so that one always had a camera when the used one was sent back for processing and re-loading. And, I wonder if you got back the same camera, or if they just sent back another one which was just

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-23 Thread Fred
Hi, Carlos. Probably the M 85 mm. f:2 is an excellent choice for portraits. The M 85/2 is a pretty good portrait lens, despite its unpretentious seeming design, and is the most economical Pentax K-mount 85. The lens I use the most for portraits is a K 85 mm. 1.8 and I love it. [and] The

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Stan Halpin
on 6/23/03 9:29 AM, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mebbe what we ought to do is place an MZ-S in TV's hands for 6 months (if he doesn't have one) and get a report back. That would settle build quality and

Re: Prime portrait lenses - which one?

2003-06-23 Thread Bob Blakely
K85/1.8 Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I

Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
A most politely ambiguous answer. Have you ever considered a career in the diplomatic corps? regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Monday, June 23, 2003, 8:33:34 PM, you wrote: How 'bout it folks, is SMC hype or real? I never knew

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
frank theriault wrote: I was planning on selling my CL, which had been in the shop for almost 6 months. I got it back (finally had the $$ for the bill) almost two weeks ago. I got back my first roll last week. The sharpness and beautiful contrast of that little lens is palpable. That

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread Pentxuser
Exactly Joshua... Vic In a message dated 6/23/03 4:17:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The conversion from the LX to the MZS should be no problem as you demonstrate and testify. If you look at the two cameras they are laid out in the same fashion: shutter wheel in the same spot on both

Re: Swapping screens across bodies

2003-06-23 Thread Alan Chan
I have found the MZ-M screen in MX is a lot easier to focus too. No more struggle with macro shots. regards, Alan Chan Rules are made to be broken and I think you'll find that Pentax did just that with the introduction of the new 60 series of LX screens. They are bright and snappy to focus.

Re: entirely and completely OT. Well, it _is_ kind of about photography..

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony Farr
It would have been nice to see examples of his work, maybe I'll do an image search of Remigijus Audiejaitis later and see what turns up. Reminds me of the Australian movie Proof (1991), also about a blind photographer. In that case the photos were taken in an attempt to establish the facts of

Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress

2003-06-23 Thread T Rittenhouse
Of course, the M5 is a rather weird camera. It was not very popular. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Vs: Vs: Lens Mount Progress I

Re: Opinions needed about SMC M 35/2.8

2003-06-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! MI i used to have one (from ebay), until its diafragm stuck. then i MI sold it on ebay for what i paid originally (although i did warn MI the buyer). MI the lens is fine. i have 35/2 now, and except the weight and the MI price, i'm not sure there's a lot of difference. MI i have just looked

Re: 67 or 645??

2003-06-23 Thread John Munro
Graywolf wrote: My silly thought is that once you are going to put the camera on a tripod you might just as well go to large format and be done with it. That is silly, Graywolf. I remember sitting in the pressbox squashed between the back wall and a Speed Graphic sporting a 40 inch telephoto

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