Remember the Spotmatic II? It appeared AFTER the Spotmatic F.
Are you sure about that? I can't get to Peter Jonkman's Spotmatic page
to check, but that clashes with my recollection. My first SLR (which I
purchased with my very first paycheck from my first full-time job) was
a Spotmatic II
Just a little question.
In many of your mails I read the term CLA. Could you explain to me what CLA
is short for? I know it's a kind of servicing, but what is exactly done when
a camera is CLA'd?
Greetings,
Hans B.
mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clean-Lubricate-Adjust. Some might call it overhaul.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Just a little question.
In many of your mails I read the term CLA. Could you explain to me what CLA
is short for? I know it's a kind of servicing, but what is exactly done
when
a camera is CLA'd?
I've been sent three copies of the same message over the 24 past hours
supposedly from someone talking about a Rollei SL66 and a close-up lens. The
message has an attachment (Earthlink Support.url.exe) ... I-Worm/Bugbear.
Don
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I've been sent three copies of the same message over the 24 past hours
supposedly from someone talking about a Rollei SL66 and a close-up lens. The
message has an attachment (Earthlink Support.url.exe) ... I-Worm/Bugbear.
Don
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To all interested parties,
We are going to have a NorCal Pugster outing on September 20th.
Planning on a day shooting at Point Reyes. Should be great photo
opportunities, a chance to interact with other PDML'ers in northern
California, get to see and handle gear that you might have always
wanted
Clive, I think my son inherited that car
Was it post-office-box red, by any chance?
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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From: Clive evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:44 AM
Subject: OT Leaky sports cars
Not just
With Ks and Ms you get nothing. No metering at all so you will have to use a hand-held meter or guess. some have suggested adjusting to ISO settings to use these lenses but I have no idea what they mean.
On the pre-production models, with K and M lenses, you get metered
wide-open
Hi,
Knarf wrote:
I seem to recall that pretty much every English sports car of the 50's and 60's
featured rain dribbling in from ~somewhere~. I thought you guys did it on
purpose.
We did. Export models (North America) only. It was to keep you awake
as you bumbled along at 55mph. Don't
Hi Peter,
Mind if I ask again? Blackout you mean just darken but still see something
at the top edge, or mean the edge is blocked and shows nothing?
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
I'm commenting on the blackout of the upper edge of the image in the
viewfinder not your modification. In
Hi, Pat,
Unfortunately, most of the summer festivals and the like are now history, or at
least will be by mid-Sept.
Other than Queen's Park, and older civic buildings, there is, of course, the CN
Tower (hard to miss). Casa Loma is a pretty cool castle built by some
robber-baron type about 100
John
Red...Oh gosh no, I have always had black cars since the
age of 25...it had biscuit leather seats with black piping too!
Clive
Antibes
France
Hehe! Terrible aren`t I? BWHAHA.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
Cotty wrote:
Watch that man Larson. He's got some strange fixation with flash gun
innards and will challenge you to adapt it in some way, maybe allowing it
to rotate freely in all directions, maybe a
Hi Arnold,
Just for simplification (simple minds need that), if I were to put a
K mount on the Starkist D, set the camera to AV, I will get
metering wide open?
If I set the camera to full manual I get no metering, but the camera
will stop down the lens? If that`s the case shooting static images
Yes. That is 100% how the pre-production *ist D work.
Arnold
Steve Larson schrieb:
Hi Arnold,
Just for simplification (simple minds need that), if I were to put a
K mount on the Starkist D, set the camera to AV, I will get
metering wide open?
If I set the camera to full manual I get no
Transport; Architecture; Air; Velocity; Home; Electricity; Paper;
Education; Age; Steam; Language; Fill lighting; Wide aperture;
Food; Bad habits; Culture.
I have suggested the above because I can think of an original approach
to them. I also thought of Self Portrait but could not think of an
It starts to darken with longer focal lengths the longer the more
pronounced. The effect is due to the geometry of the light path. It's not
blocked, the path is actually off the bottom of the mirror, it's hard for
me to explain without diagrams. On my MXs the darkening is apparent but
there
I would love to buy a Bessa T or R, because I tried them out a while
back and liked them a lot, but I've been looking around for lenses and
it looks like the lenses are several hundred $ each no matter where I
look. Am I missing something or will I really have to pay tons of money
for each lens if
OK, here's my MX question (I have two, and really like them) ... I
recently took one of mine out, ready to load it up with film, and the
meter seems as if it's three or four stops off. Batteries are fine,
ASA dial is set correctly, and the meter does respond to different
light levels, but it
J C O'Connell wrote:
I would think that every month having a theme as
well as an open category would be an improvement
over the current setup. That way good shots would
not have to wait months for submission.
I probably shouldn't enter this debate because I haven't entered any of the
PUGs due to
Hi all,
recently my FA* 24mm is behaving strangely on my MZ-5N. At the largest aperture
(aperture priority mode) the body says f2.5 then jumps to f2.0, then back
again etc.
Anybody notice the same problem, maybe wear on the aperture coupler?
What could I do do get rid of this problem?
Frank
CLA = Clean, Lubricate, Adjust.
Routine camera maintenance that a pro ought to have done yearly and an
amateur every 5 years or so. Though modern cameras do not normally need
relubricating a CLA should include partial disassembly, blowing out the
dust, checking the calibration and timing of
Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, here's my MX question (I have two, and really like them) ... I
recently took one of mine out, ready to load it up with film, and the
meter seems as if it's three or four stops off. Batteries are fine,
ASA dial is set correctly, and the meter does
55 was the usual speed limit in most states before the interstates were
built. I sometimes thought they came up with that number because they didn't
want you doing more than 60, but figured everyone would drive faster than
the limit anyway, so set it at 55 and enforced 60. No, wait a minute, that
I've been looking for an original Pentax Macro lens for quite a while now.
Last week I made a buy, via internet. Today The Lens arrived. It seems to be
in very good condition (allmost mint), with UV-filter and original hardcase.
I paid 100,00 for it. I think thats about
us$ 90,00. I think that's
It starts to darken with longer focal lengths the longer the more pronounced.
On the MX, it is very darkened with the 1000mm f/8. A bit annoying
but I shall use the LX with this lens.
Andre
--
Joe,
A shot in the dark here, but check if the number on the dial knob and the
number on the viewfinder indicator is the same...
The connection between the two is a band (rubber?), and they can come out of
sync.
Jostein
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Pictures at: http://oksne.net
Try to clean the bayonet contacts both on the camera and on the lens.
hth,
Jostein
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From: Frank Wajer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003
Frank, have you tried cleaning the electrical contacts, both on
camera and the lens? [The aperture value is transmitted strictly via
digital protocol].
Servus,Alin
Frank wrote:
FW recently my FA* 24mm is behaving strangely on my MZ-5N. At the largest aperture
FW (aperture priority
A friend of mine loaned me an old Canon 35mm Leica thread mount lens to try
out. Perhaps you could search out older lenses instead of the offerings
from Bessa (or is it Voightlander?) My Leica thread mount lenses include an
old Canon 28, a Nikkor 135 and 35mm, and a old 90mm Elmar.
Jim A.
Tom Reese wrote:
I probably shouldn't enter this debate because I haven't entered any of the
PUGs due to the combination of my Luddite attitude toward all things digital
and the fact that I only shoot slides. That said, I think the value of
having PUG themes is that it gets the members to go
For someone who doesn't own a notebook computer, what's everyone's
opinion on this device for downloading and temporarily storing images
from my soon to arrive (I hope) *istD.
http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SKid=358480
Bill
USB 1.1 is too slow :o(
How about a month that is totally open, even to non-Pentax photos. I am
sure many of us have photos taken in our younger years with non SLR
equipment that we're proud of.
Bill
Speed is relatively unimportant to me. I'm looking for a relatively
inexpensive way to store files should I fill up CF cards.
Bill
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From: Raivo Tiikmaa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Card
I'm interested in finding out if anyone has an opinion on the difference in
quality of the T6-2X and A 2X-S teleconverters. I can see by the specs that
the A2X-S replaced the T6-2x in 1984 and I see that they are of different
designs.
What I want to know is if one is better or optically superior
I forgot the Zoo. Toronto has a wonderful zoo, but plan on being there all day,
because it's real big...
cheers,
frank
frank theriault wrote:
Hi, Pat,
Unfortunately, most of the summer festivals and the like are now history, or at
least will be by mid-Sept.
Other than Queen's Park, and
In your case, Bill, I would think about just buying a couple more CF cards
instead. While they would not have the capacity of the hard drive they would
be more reliable and give you redundant storage until you uploaded the
images to the computer. Think about it a bit, if that drive goes belly up
Hi all,
for the next 2 weeks or so I´ll be doing some motorcycling and cannot be sure if I can
access my mailbox so I unsubscribe.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
However, I disagree with you that going through archives to
come up with good shots defeats the purpose. Going through archives
(whether they are last year's or stuff done 20 years ago) is an exercise
that
sharpens one's perception of their own vision. The theme triggers
I said before Interstates (freeways, expressways, turnpikes, etc.), Cotty.
Prior to about 1955 all the eastern states had 50-55mph limits. PA NJ even
had a 50mph limit on the Interstates. Nevada and Wyoming had no fixed speed
limits. And it was 1974 when the 55 went into effect via federal fiat
Sunday I have a shoot and Starting Monday I'll be
working 7 days a week for the rest of sept! :-(
--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: I forgot the Zoo. Toronto has a wonderful
zoo, but
plan on being there all day,
because it's real big...
cheers,
frank
frank theriault wrote:
Some interesting comments in this thread so far.
After thinking about it I think that if I was setting it up there would be
simple genera themes (portraits, landscapes, architecture, animals, etc) the
rule would be that they had to be shot for that Gallery. After all if all
you want to do is show
If you decide to go this route, just make sure you research it's
reliability, as I've heard numerous first hand stories of them
failing.
Another option would be a similar device that will burn CD's directly.
A 512 or 640 will fit nicely on a CD without wasting too much space.
Again, reliability
No, all picture files will not stay in the unit. The unit will be used
to store files while on the road if I should fill up the card(s). We're
talking about uploading to the computer less than 1 gig at a time.
Then just buy an extra gig of storage (microdrive, CF cards, whatever).
No extra
I have this and next weekend booked with the nag's.The 20th and the 27th may be open,so
far.:-)
Opps,the 20th is SO's BD,that may be out.
Dave
Sunday I have a shoot and Starting Monday I'll be
working 7 days a week for the rest of sept! :-(
--- frank
I'm paranoid about reliability so my SOP will be to upload the images from
the card to my laptop and then burn 2 CD's for each 512MB CF card. Yes, it
will be more cumbersome, but it's all existing equipment and my card reader
and CD writer use USB 2 and in the end I'll have 3 copies of every
På torsdag, 4. september 2003, kl. 20:51, skrev T Rittenhouse:
Some interesting comments in this thread so far.
After thinking about it I think that if I was setting it up there
would be
simple genera themes (portraits, landscapes, architecture, animals,
etc) the
rule would be that they had to
Last night i pulled my old Spotmatic out and gve it a once over,as i
thought i
migh shoot
some star trails with it later in the month.The camera was CLA'd about a 1 1/2 years
ago,for a
flucuating meter. When i went to play with the asa
i was in BH today and they are accepting orders for it now. i have to wait
a little, but by next week, i plan to place my order.
Herb
Hi,
Thursday, September 4, 2003, 9:37:18 AM, you wrote:
More seriously: anyone know of a convertible that doesn't leak? Astons
and Bentleys do. Three whheeler Morgan hoods reduce the level of
precipitation somewhat but the hood is so obscuring it is much safer to
leave it down and wear
Just to add to that, the PUG can also be a vehicle to see what various
types images Pentax gear can produce - coupled with the creativity of
the photographer.
Bruce
Thursday, September 4, 2003, 11:51:05 AM, you wrote:
TR Some interesting comments in this thread so far.
TR After thinking
I was looking for something like this. Looks like good
solution. Even if I have laptop computer, I would
prefer carrying this small device instead of bulky
expensive laptop.
You guys are *nuts*. I can't imagine going anywhere without mine -
PowerBookers Unite!!!
Cheers,
Cotty
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I'm hoping that with a device of this type I'll be able to get by on 2
256Mb cards. I figure I should get somewhere around 40 images per card,
then upload the full one and put the empty one in the camera
Bill
40?
I shoot large/fine jpegs and get nearly 200 on a 512MB card, of which i
have
Hi all,
for the next 2 weeks or so I´ll be doing some motorcycling and cannot be
sure if I can access my mailbox so I unsubscribe.
Have a good trip Raimo.
Cheers,
Cotty
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In your case, Bill, I would think about just buying a couple more CF cards
instead. While they would not have the capacity of the hard drive they would
be more reliable and give you redundant storage until you uploaded the
images to the computer. Think about it a bit, if that drive goes belly up
REPLY
I don't have enough money left over after the *istD to be able to afford
a laptop 8-(
Bill
I was looking for something like this. Looks like good solution. Even
if I have laptop computer, I would prefer carrying this small device
instead of bulky expensive laptop.
You
Thanks Cotty, I'll try that first and see what happens. After all, I've
been very pleased with 8x10 prints from the Optio S using best quality
jpeg setting/
Bill
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From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:54 PM
To: pentax list
Subject:
Thanks to all who replied, I think I need to go get one myself.
Feroze
Tom Reese wrote:
Thank you for the very thoughtful reply. I agree that going through archives
can be a very good learning experience. I frequently go through my best of
notebook (a great advantage of slides - easy searches!) to look for an
image. I wouldn't think of submitting one of those
The shutter speed dial and the in-viewfinder indicator do match -- I
know to check that with MXes because the first MX I ever owned was
misaligned by a stop. I had a repairman fix it, along with a few
other things, but the camera was already so heavily used (by a
previous owner) that it didn't
Thx Peter. I think I know the answer now.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
It starts to darken with longer focal lengths the longer the more
pronounced. The effect is due to the geometry of the light path. It's not
blocked, the path is actually off the bottom of the mirror, it's hard for
Perhaps the ISO was not set to 100? The meter of the MX works from
1s-1/1000s only when ISO is set to 100.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
OK, here's my MX question (I have two, and really like them) ... I recently
took one of mine out, ready to load it up with film, and the meter seems
This is due to the loose manufacturing tolerance of Pentax cameras lenses.
My F*300/4.5 FA100/2.8 with Z-1p do the same thing too. The good news is,
the displayed valued in the viewfinder is only a shown value, and does not
affect the metering or exposure accuracy.
Alan Chan
På torsdag, 4. september 2003, kl. 21:53, skrev Ann Sanfedele:
Tom Reese wrote:
Thank you for the very thoughtful reply. I agree that going through
archives
can be a very good learning experience. I frequently go through my
best of
notebook (a great advantage of slides - easy searches!) to
Choose a
theme that no-one have in their archives, and all the contributions
will be made especially for this event. How about something like My
favorite chair or A broken cup? Of course, what happens then is
that nobody participates :-(
...which maybe says something about the way it runs
I'm paranoid about reliability so my SOP will be to upload the images from
the card to my laptop and then burn 2 CD's for each 512MB CF card. Yes, it
will be more cumbersome, but it's all existing equipment and my card reader
and CD writer use USB 2 and in the end I'll have 3 copies of every
Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom Reese wrote:
I'd like to enter the PUG. I had digital prints made from slides not too
long ago and they were garbage. All the contrast was gone, the colors were
off, they were awful. I may try it again but I'll stick with my lightbox and
loupe for a
I don't have enough money left over after the *istD to be able to afford
a laptop 8-(
Nonesense! I used moderate-level machine will give good service and
double as a great quality viewing screen ;-)
Seriously, you should go with what your heart says Bill - Hell, I always do.
Cheers,
Cotty
It's arrived...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2948968661
Nice build quality and fits well. Just waiting for a 55mm Tak now ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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I had Tom shoot my wedding last month- and since I met him on the PDML,
I thought it worthwhile to post my experiences with him:
Wow- just plain great. Reasonably priced, professional while on
site, very low maintenance (as opposed to the video guy that my now
mother-in-law wanted). And
Go Titanium!!
Cotty wrote:
I was looking for something like this. Looks like good
solution. Even if I have laptop computer, I would
prefer carrying this small device instead of bulky
expensive laptop.
You guys are *nuts*. I can't imagine going anywhere without mine -
PowerBookers Unite!!!
Hey, ya pentax bums!
Just subscribing for a moment to say hello to everyone. I'm on the road, as
planned, and didn't think I'd get to email before Seattle... but an interesting
turn of events (long story, maybe later) has landed me on the campus of United
Tribes Technical College here in
Jerome,
If you get near Glacier National Park, stop in at the Park Cafe in St.
Mary's - it's only open until Sept. 15th, so if you plan to go through
Glacier on your return trip you'll miss it. Lisa tells me they make the
best pie in the world. Pick up one of their cool Pie for Strength
t-shirts
If you get near Glacier National Park, stop in at
the Park Cafe in St. Mary's - it's only open until
Sept. 15th
Not sure if I'll make it there by the 15th, but Glacier is definitely on my
list. I'll be there for atleast 4 or 5 days, depending on how it goes. Thanks
for the tip.
Lisa
Bruce Dayton wrote:
To all interested parties,
We are going to have a NorCal Pugster outing on September 20th.
Planning on a day shooting at Point Reyes. Should be great photo
opportunities, a chance to interact with other PDML'ers in northern
California, get to see and handle gear that you
I don't promote myself very much, or very well (so my friends keep
telling me), so I'll do it here.
I mentioned last week that I had a new show scheduled, and indeed, I
installed it today. Cafe Bernate, Queen Street West, just west of
Ossington (in case anyone will be in Toronto in the near
In July I posted the results of systematically testing my Tokina AT-X AF
Pro 28-80 f2.8. THK, to their credit, acknowledged right away that the
lens was defective. I asked how long repairs take, explaining that I
leave for Europe (Oslo, Copenhagen, Lund, Stockholm) on Sept. 10. They
told me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I could go on, but that covers a few of the downtown highlights; if
you need more, let me know.
Of course (assuming Im still around by then - I may be outta here), we
should get together (there are several more of us - we could make it a PDML
gathering) if you have
I scan on a Nikon LS 2000 at 2720 dpi. A couple of times I cropped
sections of negatives only about 6 x 9 mm. in size, saved them in GF,
and gotten pretty good 8 x 10 prints on my Epson 870. The prints are
not great, but they are good at proper viewing distance, and much better
than I would
I just use Canon File Viewer. I've tried all the other stuff, but it
works well enough and is free. If I need some noise reduction I'll use
Breezebrowser.
First I make all my color corrections and exposure adjustments, then I
convert to tiff. If I'm doing digital proofs, I run Breezebrowser to
Forgot about the FA lenses. I've got K-mounts that are somewhat useless on
the D unless you use some techniques that have been described on the list.
For $1600 I want full compatibility that Pentax isn't going to give.
Jim A.
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ryan K. Brooks wrote:
I had Tom shoot my wedding last month-
snip nice things about tv
very low maintenance
You've never seen him in a bar or restaurant giving the waitresses a hard
time! Actually since he missed the last DC-PDML, Cesar commented that I was
doing a good job of taking over
While I can understand you being upset they did replace the lens. There are
companies out there that wouldn't have done that. I hope the new one is
A-OK.
Ciao,
Graywolf
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From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forgot about the FA lenses. I've got K-mounts that are somewhat useless on
the D unless you use some techniques that have been described on the list.
For $1600 I want full compatibility that Pentax isn't going to give.
Jim A.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/
It's VERY entry-level. I would not call it competition for the ist-D on
features.
Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forgot about the FA lenses. I've got K-mounts that are somewhat useless on
the D unless you use some techniques that have been described on the list.
For $1600 I want full compatibility that Pentax isn't going to give.
I know what you mean - I've still got a few M-series lenses in the bag,
They cripple the features of the camera but the
image quality is still there. According to the
dpreview tests the sharpness and noise levels stack
up perilessly well against a Nikon D100. The feature
set of such a crippled camera is still enough for
most uses. Not surprising the Rebel film cameras
Amita,
Does that mean the next trip north for me I should bring along the *istD?
vbg With the appropriate lenses of course (including screwmounts).
Definitely interested in hearing your thoughts on it,
Cesar
Panama City, Florida
-- -Original Message-
-- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL
RAW should give you the best possible image to work with. You can do white
balance corrections and exposure corrections easily - depending a bit on the
software of course - than you can on jpegs.
Also one should check the write speed for the camera. I am most familiar
with the Nikon D1X and
I will not be buying the new zoom lens. I will try it without the wide
angle view for a while first. I will most probably look for a prime to get
the angle though. This is the way I shoot. I have a few zooms but cannot
recall the last time I actually shot with them. A friend actually has had
Okay, okay, do I have to step in and bring TV back down to earth?
Just kidding - TV does excellent work. I thrive to reach his level. The
album he brought to GFMtn last year was stupendous.
And yes Christian did wonderfully in your absence :-)
Raising another Venetian glass of 2001 Paso
Frank wrote:
Listen to Wendy. She knows of what she speaks. Were it not for her,
I'd likely not be a proud MX owner now. g
Same here! I read what she posted on the subject a while back, and just had to
get
one.
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-- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:57 PM
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-- From: Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Forgot about the FA lenses. I've got K-mounts that are
-- somewhat useless on
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I'll be getting the FA-J 18-35. I think it will complement the camera quite
well and give me as wide a lens as I've ever used. I mostly shoot normal
and long. I'm looking forward to my Sigma 450/4 or is it a 900/8? ;-)
Christian Skofteland
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From:
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I know better than to ask the dealer. But then again I know that once it
shows up they will call me to let me know...
César
Panama City, Florida
I get the first ist-D in the store. It's officially on order and I'm
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From: Christian Skofteland
Subject: Re: *ist-D
I'm looking forward to my Sigma 450/4 or is it a 900/8? ;-)
It's a 450 f/4.
Focal length and aperture are absolute values.
William Robb
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-- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:34 PM
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-- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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-- How about a theme called.Themes
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-- Persuasion
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-- Larking About
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-- Rubber
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-- Chintz
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with a 2x converter.
Christian Skofteland
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: *ist-D
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From: Christian Skofteland
Subject: Re:
Sure! When are you coming up next?
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From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: oh my goodness
Amita,
Does that mean the next trip north for me I should bring
along the
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