Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
One angle to consider is that the tools (cameras, etc) have become much better than in the past. This means that more and more non-photographers are using the tools to turn out mediocre work. In the past they would not have even bothered. So the overall body of image quality would slowly go

RE: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Bucky
Q.E.D. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3-Feb-04 22:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital Photography Light has soul?? Clams got hands WW

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Sheesh, tanya ... perhaps one might do well to think about every shot, regardless of haw many frames are left. When you reach a certain level in any art or sport, the thinking becomes automatic, transparent ... the photography just happens, and all the technical stuff needn't be given any time

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I certainly hope that you don't hope that the general rules of probability would allow you to get 'the' shot at some time... IMO, a photographer should know what he or she is doing, and know how and where and when to press the button. Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: With digital you probably

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Shel, I wasn't referring to myself! However, I have noticed that I *could* become lazy or complacent if I let myself... I don't though (get lazy), I have too much pride in my work. However, I am sure that there are many pros around who focus on the money much more than I do, and to whom don't

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Yes, but Shel, sometimes, when you are following around a very stubborn 18mth old who refuses to co-operate, despite having a vision of how the shot *should* look, you sometimes have to compromise AND sometimes, the compromise is surprising in that the results are better than what you had

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread John Francis
Gee, I wonder why that would be? If some people insist on belittling the equipment choice of others (despite the fact that only recently, on this list, it was pointed out that some of the most admired photographs are technically not of the highest standard, and many are taken with inferior

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread John Francis
One angle to consider is that the tools (cameras, etc) have become much better than in the past. This means that more and more non-photographers are using the tools to turn out mediocre work. In the past they would not have even bothered. So the overall body of image quality would slowly

Re: I got an *ist (film)

2004-02-04 Thread John Coyle
Yes, my step-son's partner calls _me_ Dude too! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:43 PM Subject: Re: I got an *ist (film) Dude seems to be a hip word amongst teenagers

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread mapson
At 12:30 PM 4/02/2004 +1000, you wrote: No, no, no, Tom, this group has been advised before that Oz is not upside down at all. We are the only continent the right way up, and we can show you a map to prove it! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia And it'a a prawn, not a shrimp we can ride in the

Re: I got an *ist (film)

2004-02-04 Thread mapson
At 05:54 PM 4/02/2004 +1000, you wrote: Yes, my step-son's partner calls _me_ Dude too! And 2 more pieces of dude-trivia some of my students last year claimed that DUDE means camel's penis (even though I failed to find any linguistic confirmation of it) some time ago there was a song called

Re: extended warrantees

2004-02-04 Thread P Kong
That's pretty much the same vein of conversation when a sales rep tried to push a $19.95 warranty/service plan for a $70 computer motherboard CPU. Should the items purchased go wonky, the same amount of money will get me something much, much better in the future. Now if the warranty covered

RE: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread Trevor Bailey
The only thing that would make Australia better would be the issueing of concealed carry firearms permits. The we would be able to walk around at night in the city and shoot (cameras) to our hearts content knowing that we would be the baddest Dude ( hehehehe) with a camera. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor

RE: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
John Francis wrote: Nor, for that matter, does using film somehow make you more of a real photographer than using digital. It's not the equipment - it's the eye behind the viewfinder, and the mind behind the eye, that count. I most certainly agree. Some people on this list - say Shel

Re: I got an *ist (film)

2004-02-04 Thread Bill Owens
I'm an old fart. Bill - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:20 PM Subject: Re: I got an *ist (film) Speak for yourself Butch, I'm a geek! At 09:38 PM 2/3/04, Butch Black wrote: On 3/2/04, [EMAIL

Re: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread Bill Owens
- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: GFM plans If push comes to shove, I could sleep in the car I'm driving or someone could. No, you're not. You're sleeping in either my or Cory's

Re: OT portable data storage and image viewer

2004-02-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't seen anyone mention the Vosonic V-MP3H DIGITAL DATA PLAYER as yet, no zoom and only jpeg caompatibility but it's a step in the right direction and relatively inexpensive. http://www.vosonic.co.uk/vmp3h.html All I can say at this point is that I

Yay for customer service (yay for smartdisk)

2004-02-04 Thread Rob Brigham
Just want to say a big 'YAY' for smartdisk. I got interested in the flashtrax after they added support for Pentax RAW format. Prior to that I was looking at perhaps archos/vosonic etc... When I went on their wenbsite recently I found they had the 30Gb version quite a bit cheaper than anywhere

OT: D70 hands-on and long DSLRS rant

2004-02-04 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
Hi, I had the D70 in my hands for several hours on Monday thanks to friendly Nikon rep. (although their service - different company part - is about as abysmal as Pentax service here - that is, none of the socalled nikon professional service is here, even if you are pro). Sorry for being OT, just

RE: D70 hands-on and long DSLRS rant

2004-02-04 Thread Rob Brigham
I know someone who tore the pentaprism housing off when they dropped their *istD with a flash on. Pentax repaired it for free, but I suspect that was just because they didn't want this sort of negative publicity just after launch date and wouldn't expect that to continue to be a free repair.

Older non Pentax flash on *istD

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Hillerstrom
Hi I have an older flash for my praktica camera which I wondering if it'll work on my *istD. It's an Starblitz 2500 BTZ. It has only the center connector in the hotshoe and work as an auto-flash (light sensor on flash). I'm worried if the flashvoltage could damage the *istD. I've read on the net

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread Fred
We are the only island continent ...except for Antarctica, perhaps? Fred

RE: (sensor)D70 preview posted (uses same sensor as *ist D)

2004-02-04 Thread brooksdj
Used to Len. From what i gather from my conversation at the local camera store last Sunday,the D100 is now out of production,so i quess we can say the *istD has the same sensor the D100 used to have,LOL Dave Doesn't the *ist D use the same sensor as the

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread Fred
No, no, no, Tom, this group has been advised before that Oz is not upside down at all. We are the only continent the right way up, and we can show you a map to prove it! Ah, but, the only way to show a map or a globe with Australia the right way up (i.e., above the equator) is to show the

Re: Upside Downness - was Re: * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread mapson
At 07:46 AM 4/02/2004 -0500, you wrote: We are the only island continent ...except for Antarctica, perhaps? Covered in snow - doesn't count! ;-) Fred (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Older non Pentax flash on *istD

2004-02-04 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I think you mean: older flashes can damage modern Pentax cameras. The old trigger voltages were no problem in the past as cameras of that era, like the MX, have a mechanical contact. With the modern cameras, electronics are used in just about any area of the camera, including the flash circuitry.

Re: 645 or 6x7

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Apilado
645. I like the 6X7 but it too big and heavy for my taste. I own the 645 and four lenses with it. Use mainly for weddings. Jim A. From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Oceania Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 09:30:42 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: OT: D70 hands-on and long DSLRS rant

2004-02-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
On the D100 and D70, there is no manual focus. You just don't see what's in-focus and what's not. Everything looks infocus with a wider lens, so small the finder is. Really? No MF? I'm really surprised by this. Do you mean it's so hard to do that it effectviely doens't exist or that it really

RE: *ist D pricing

2004-02-04 Thread Rothman, Aric
The price at Adorama is now $1229! Good 'ole capitalism. Your move, BH! Aric Len Paris did write... Oh my gosh! Do you mean that dealers might not be passing the savings on to their customers? Heaven forbid! That would be a first! ;-) Len * She drove me to drink. That's the one thing

RE: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
I plan to bring my Sp500, MX, Mz-S, 645, and *istD. This way I can sit and complain about the right way to do photography with any group I find myself closest too (or has the most beer). Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873

Re: more *ist D pricing news...

2004-02-04 Thread Daichi Saeki (QA/EMC)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 19:50:47 -0600 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey William, I love how this topic quickly degraded to your rant. Originally, my rant was about people buying the camera in the USA and importing it to their own country because it was considerable

Re: *ist D pricing

2004-02-04 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Wednesday, Feb 4, 2004, at 08:54 America/New_York, Rothman, Aric wrote: The price at Adorama is now $1229! Good 'ole capitalism. Do they have it in stock? --jc

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
Correct, Bucky. That comes from breaking it up into all those little squares. grin -- Bucky wrote: No, sorry you are WRONG WRONG WRONG. Digital cameras filter the soul right out of the light. PERIOD. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3-Feb-04 21:50

RE: *ist D pricing

2004-02-04 Thread Rothman, Aric
There is no indication they are out of stock. They still don't have the 16-45, though. Aric -Original Message- From: Juey Chong Ong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *ist D pricing On Wednesday, Feb 4,

Re: Older non Pentax flash on *istD

2004-02-04 Thread Peter Hillerstrom
Hi Fritz No I meant Modern pentax flashes could damage older pentax bodies. Thats the info pentax gave me and I think I've seen it around the internet also. Your statement makes most sense to me and I get confused when others states the opposite. Even if I don't use this flash on the *istD and

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Bill, despite your cynicism the grab shots are often also the money shots... ;^) - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast

Re: I got an *ist (film)

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
Well, all I know is that when I was a kid, Dude was considered an insult. Somebody with pretentions, usually stupid ones. Kind of like the kids that use it today (tongue in cheek) -- mapson wrote: At 05:54 PM 4/02/2004 +1000, you wrote: Yes, my step-son's partner calls _me_ Dude too!

Re: Machine Gun Photography (was: Digital Photography)

2004-02-04 Thread brooksdj
BoB WROTE,THEN I SNIPPED:-) I know what you mean and are saying here Bob. I am amazed at the number of people who think the only way to shoot horses(as i do)is to trip the shutter for 2-3 seconds and HOPE they get something usefull. I only resort to that

Re: Machine Gun Photography (was: Digital Photography)

2004-02-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
I'm taking pictures at a swim meet tonight. Many shots will fail. I couldn't even think of taking my 645. I find that I do the best I can, and between heats I delete obviously bad (out -of -focus or just a big splash) pics. I delete quite a bit, but still end up with 50 or so perfectly

RE: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I plan to bring my Sp500, MX, Mz-S, 645, and *istD. This way I can sit and complain about the right way to do photography with any group I find myself closest too (or has the most beer). Whew! A bit early to list equipment for GFM, but sounds fun so why

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Bill, despite your cynicism the grab shots are often also the money shots... Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast wrote ;^) Your mind is as filthy as mine Bill, LOL. Cheers, Cotty

Re: D70 and digital kills real cameras

2004-02-04 Thread Bob W
Hi, 2) The cost of a DSLR is less than the cost of the film (and processing) that a pro would shoot in the lifetime of the DSLR. This is why newspapers have gone digital. Newspapers in Australia were printing the photo of the first goal in the last World Cup Final within 7 minutes of the

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Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread Keith Whaley
As a US citizen, that has always bothered me. To call those citizens of the U.S. of A. Americans seems to be great hubris, especially when it's them saying it, and patently ignores the fact that there are other Americans, both north and south of the Canal Zone. I suppose it's like coke in lieu of

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
The masses are no smarter or dumber than they have ever been, but they do have more money than they used to. Aside to Tanya, just because it sells for lots of money does not mean it is good. Both confidence men, and cops depend on people being dumber than you or I would believe possible to do

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
Hey, you can't talk about TV like that grin. -- Steve Desjardins wrote: ...and an idiot will take underexposed blurry pictures of his foot. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.

Re: *ist D for sale...Minor Correction

2004-02-04 Thread Yousef Lasi
That should read Pentax FA 50 1.4 lens not 1.8, thanks again Hi, I'm not sure if this is against list rules(no mention in FAQ), but in any case, I have a less than 4 week old *ist D with a Pentax FA 50 1.8 lens and rechargeable NiMh batteries for sale. I have used it to take maybe a total of

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
graywolf wrote: Come on, dudes, give me some more straight lines for a pithy one liners. Photography is all about light. What makes you think that you can learn more from firmware than film?

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
It has nothing to do with Hubris. It's the name of the country: United States of America. or America for short. The continent is North America, and we're all North Americans. Keith Whaley wrote: As a US citizen, that has always bothered me. To call those citizens of the U.S. of A. Americans

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
TV's picture was dead sharp and well exposed. That was part of the horror . . g Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/04/04 02:31PM Hey, you can't talk about TV

Re: D70 and digital kills real cameras

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
You have that one right, Bob. If you are still shooting film you are working for a monthly magazine. -- Bob W wrote: Hi, 2) The cost of a DSLR is less than the cost of the film (and processing) that a pro would shoot in the lifetime of the DSLR. This is why newspapers have gone digital.

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
Light, it be light. The same light hits both cameras. This debate is about are emulsions and developers and sensors and curves. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
Political correctness. Me, I say if the word America is in the name of their country they can call themselves Americans, otherwise they are just F'ing Foreigners GRIN. --Bigotry R Us. -- Steve Desjardins wrote: I was looking through Shutterbug yesterday and noticed that 3 of the 6(?)

RE: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread tom
Hey, that pic is pin sharp, perfectly exposed, and shot on velvia! tv -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Digital Photography Hey, you can't talk about TV like that grin. --

Re: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread Norm Baugher
Cotty wrote: Whew! A bit early to list equipment for GFM, but sounds fun so why not. Ah, why the hell not Film: Plus-X/APX100 P6x7/105f2.5/45f.4 Program Plus/SuperProgram(backup) K28f3.5/M35f2.8/M50f1.4/K135f2.5/M200f4 Throw in some filters, tripod, ext tubes, beer (from Frank) and I'm good

Re: D70 and digital kills real cameras

2004-02-04 Thread Bill Owens
Not necessarily the case. The recent National Geographic article on the history of aviation was shot totally digitally. Bill - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:50 PM Subject: Re: D70 and digital kills real

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Robert Gonzalez
I agree wholeheartedly. And I'm still trying to get used to the idea that I can take as many pictures as I want and not have to worry about the cost. But when I remember, I shoot, check exposure, look at the composition, re-compose, re-shoot, experiment, etc. Then I get very quick feedback

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
Not to say, Republic of Mexico; Mexico, and Mexicans for short. Dominion of Canada; Canada, and Canadians for short. As it happens there are a lot of United States in the world, but only one of them is the United States (political description) of America (location description). I see no reason

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
Hey! I asked for straight lines, not competition! GRIN -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: graywolf wrote: Come on, dudes, give me some more straight lines for a pithy one liners. Photography is all about light. What makes you think that you can learn more from firmware than film? -- graywolf

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread Leonard Paris
It bugs me that I used to be able to claim that I was a native American because I (and several generations of my family) were born here. Now, political correctness gives me the status of an immigrant. Even the now called native Americans migrated from Asia. Len --- * There's no place like

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Ok, so innocent, naive little Fairygirl has just sat here for a good 5 minutes trying to work out what you guys meant... I just about fell off my chair when it hit me... That was totally NOT what I was going for with that comment, you guys are feral! OMG, if I make it to GFM, it is going to be

Re: *ist D for sale...Minor Correction

2004-02-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Yousef, why are you selling it? tan. - Original Message - From: Yousef Lasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:36 AM Subject: Re: *ist D for sale...Minor Correction That should read Pentax FA 50 1.4 lens not 1.8, thanks again Hi, I'm not

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Christian
tv wrote about his foot picture: and shot on velvia! Oh! Thank God! I thought you had some serious illness. It was just those garish Velveeta colors (toe cheese?) Christian

OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...

2004-02-04 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Careful what you say about NYers. I recall something like this coming up once quite a few years ago here. It ended up with Mafud taking offense to something I wrote. Still not sure what it was that set him off so. NYC - born and raised, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: Leonard Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] It bugs me that I used to be able to claim that I was a native American because I (and several generations of my family) were born here. Now, political correctness gives me the status of an immigrant. Even the now called

Viruses...

2004-02-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Just a quick note - in regards to viruses - I have, last week, taken out an option from my ISP to have all viruses removed from my emails before they hit my inbox. The messages still come through but say Telstra has removed a virus from this email...etc. Due to this, I don't know which virus it

RE: Finding models ( Was: Helmut Newton dead)

2004-02-04 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-- -Original Message- -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: RE: Finding models ( Was: Helmut Newton dead) -- -- -- César posted -- -- Hmmm, not sure how exactly to take this :-) -- -- It seems the stories or impressions of me continue. -- Reminds me of a story

OT: personal growth was - * ist Digital Question

2004-02-04 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Mike, I am just trying to make sure I don't end up with a bony butt! That is all I am saying on that one, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: mike.wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:43 AM -- -- Hi, -- -- Cesar wrote: -- --

RE: pOT: People Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-02-04 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Frank, Remind me as it looms closer. I will see if I can get some here. If not, there is always a quick trip to New Orleans where I know I can get it. Just trying to keep you happy, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --

OT: extended warrantees (defended)

2004-02-04 Thread Chaso DeChaso
I am one of those rare persons who believes in and usually purchases extended warranties or “service contracts”, perhaps because I used to sell them while working in electronics retail and a big part of my time when I became manager was in arguments with customers who didn’t purchase the service

Re: D70 and digital kills real cameras

2004-02-04 Thread Christian
and their reasoning was that without digital it would not have been ready in time. Christian - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: Re: D70 and digital kills real cameras Not necessarily the

Re: Finding models ( Was: Helmut Newton dead)

2004-02-04 Thread Norm Baugher
Man after my own heart... vbg Norm Cesar Matamoros II wrote: Travelling... Reminds me that I have yet to take an international trip this year. I have to space them out or it will be a very empty house towards the end of the year... With passport always handy,

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Leonard Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even the now called native Americans migrated from Asia. So... you find the term indians more accurate anyway? :-) Jostein

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Tanya wrote: Ok, so innocent, naive little Fairygirl has just sat here for a good 5 minutes trying to work out what you guys meant... I just about fell off my chair when it hit me... I plead innocence! - I was just seeing if I could twist the thread back to the one a while

Re: Older non Pentax flash on *istD

2004-02-04 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Peter Hillerstrom wrote: Hi Fritz No I meant Modern pentax flashes could damage older pentax bodies. Thats the info pentax gave me and I think I've seen it around the internet also. Your statement makes most sense to me and I get confused when others states the opposite. Even if I

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread frank theriault
Tom, I've been reading this thread with great amusement. I may just decide to wade in at some point. You may get a few good one liners if I do... vbg -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From:

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Norm Baugher
We're not buying it Bill... Norm Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Tanya wrote: Ok, so innocent, naive little Fairygirl has just sat here for a good 5 minutes trying to work out what you guys meant... I just about fell off my chair when it hit me... I plead innocence! - I was just seeing if I

Re: Older non Pentax flash on *istD

2004-02-04 Thread Christian
I used to use the AF360FGZ on the LX, MX and SuperProgram It worked in Manual or Automatic on the MX and TTL Manual or Automatic on the LX and SP. Originally I was a bit worried about damage, but it never happened. Christian - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...

2004-02-04 Thread Yousef Lasi
I love the camera, but what puts me off is the lack of 3rd party support. it bothers me that here isn't more support for the pentax raw format...I want to be able to use tools like capture one, but they have no clear time table for pentax support. It also seems that some very desirable 3rd party

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Norm Baugher wrote: We're not buying it Bill... I might have been fudging a teeny bit on the snow part !8^) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast

Re: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread frank theriault
Ann, Need a place to stay whilst in Toronto? I'm in a 3 bedroom with an extra bedroom. Loads of room. I know my roomate wouldn't mind. Let me know... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer

Re: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread frank theriault
Ah, a Freudian slip. You surely meant for frank... vbg -knarf The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, why the hell not Film: Plus-X/APX100 P6x7/105f2.5/45f.4 Program

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread Keith Whaley
Paul Stenquist wrote: It has nothing to do with Hubris. It's the name of the country: United States of America. or America for short. The continent is North America, and we're all North Americans. Yes, the Canadians, the Mexicans and those of us from the U.S. of A., who are all North

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread Keith Whaley
Cesar Matamoros II wrote: Not intolerance. It is just ambiguous. Again, not something you would see, but take for instance when in Belize the term Americans was for North, Central, and South... Exactly my point. . . Thanks Cesar, keith Just some idle time on my hands, Cesar

RE: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread frank theriault
Cesar, Actually, I think Desjardins started it, but Cotty was in there early. I'll play, too, although mine will be somewhat more modest that some: MX, LX, Leica CL, Summicron C 40mm, Vivitar Series 1 24-48 3.8, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.8, maybe Vivitar 3.8 19mm (just for fun), M 2.0 50mm.

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread graywolf
Well, I find it peculiar, that all you anti-film folks don't own a Speed Graphic. Strangely, I find myself doing the same thing with photography that I did with beer when I gave up drinking a lot, and instead began drinking an occasional bottle of the good stuff. Doing less, enjoying it more.

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread John Francis
graywolf wrote: Come on, dudes, give me some more straight lines for a pithy one liners. Photography is all about light. What makes you think that you can learn more from firmware than film? What makes you think you can learn more about light from film than from a device

Re: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread Bill Owens
Well, okay then, here's our supply *ist D Optio S (now property of the wife MAYBE MZ-S The wife with her ZX-L Bill - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: RE: GFM plans On 4/2/04,

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
hehehe, you're forgiven Bill, now that I am officially corrupted from my naivety... vbg ;-) tan. - Original Message - From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: Re: Digital Photography Tanya wrote: Ok, so

Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...

2004-02-04 Thread Christian
which lenses did you want that were not available for Pentax? Christian - Original Message - From: Yousef Lasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news... I love the camera, but what puts

Re: *istD Pricing News

2004-02-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Chris, here's the link... They do ship to Aus, but you have to pay via wire transfer of cash - you could always use Paymate though and get around it easily... http://www.willoughbys.com/shop/Product.asp?sku=2050PENISTD tan. - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: GFM plans

2004-02-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
OMG!!! Hmmm, I think I'll just turn up empty handed (IF I make it at all...) tan. - Original Message - From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:34 AM Subject: RE: GFM plans Since Cotty started it... blame him. 645n

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Feb 2004 at 18:13, graywolf wrote: Well, I find it peculiar, that all you anti-film folks don't own a Speed Graphic. Strangely, I find myself doing the same thing with photography that I did with beer when I gave up drinking a lot, and instead began drinking an occasional bottle of

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread frank theriault
Well, I can't speak for all Canadians; I don't really think the other 35 million or so would want that. But, I prefer being called Canadian. Just so we're differentiated from residents of the USA. Not that we (or at least I) don't like you. Just that we like to think we different (probably

Re: Tripod collar or no collar?

2004-02-04 Thread Alan Chan
I remember I saw a photo which shown somebody mounted 2 tripods - one for the lens, one for the camera. But don't think I am going to try it, partly because I have one tripod only. Also, it was a test to see which was the best way for me to shoot, and I think I have my own answer already. :-)

Re: FW: Amazon: Creative Labs Nomad.....

2004-02-04 Thread Brian Dipert
I don't know if its true or not, but some sellers on ebay are warning about using the drives from these players. They claim that the interface is different and proprietary, and that it may cause incorrect behavior/failure of the card and the device its used in. I wonder if there is any

RE: D70 and digital kills real cameras

2004-02-04 Thread Len Paris
TV and the Internet are just faster than the newspapers. When they start delivering the news directly to our e-mail inbox, they will recover the ground they lost. Local newspapers would do well to present local news, something national newspapers and nework TV don't do well. Len * There's no

Re: Digital Photography

2004-02-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Hey! I asked for straight lines, not competition! GRIN I don't take snaps, I paint with light! Really. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac

Re: D70 and digital kills real cameras

2004-02-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: You have that one right, Bob. If you are still shooting film you are working for a monthly magazine. Not necessarily the case. The recent National Geographic article on the history of aviation was shot totally digitally. Bill And a beautiful job they

Re: OT: North Americans

2004-02-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: It bugs me that I used to be able to claim that I was a native American because I (and several generations of my family) were born here. Now, political correctness gives me the status of an immigrant. Even the now called native Americans migrated from

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