Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No , Boris - now I'm over reacting. Buzz off! I'm sick and tired of people telling me that I should be using new technology. That I can learn to love it. That I should embrace it. That I'll get used to it. That it will help my photography. I don't want to learn to love it. The technology

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Jul 2005 at 23:15, Shel Belinkoff wrote: And now I'm gonna watch a 1940's movie on my 20+ year old non-cable ready TV set, and enjoy some non-microwave pocorn. And a Valium chaser perhaps :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 12:10 AM, Cotty wrote: But does it? No it doesn't. The estimate is that AS allows you in practice to go down up to shutter speeds 2 stops slower, while IS/VR systems allow up to 3 stops. -- Best regards Sylwek

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 12:42 AM, Cotty wrote: It also means that if it fails... Then you'd better have backup body with you ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek

OT: Special sauce (RE: -- Re: Definitions

2005-07-16 Thread Bob W
As far as burgers themselves are concerned, probably not, but I've only had 2 or 3 McDonalds' burgers in my life. It's not an experience I subject myself to willingly. We have a chain called Wimpy which preceded McD by many years, and they were pretty gruesome (still are, to judge from the

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 1:12 AM, Herb Chong wrote: that's only if they collaborate on the same body. there is every indication that Panasonic will go its own way or work with Leica, assuming that there is still a Leica camera division in a couple of months. So far both Olympus and Panasonic

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 1:17 AM, Herb Chong wrote: only if they abandon film altogether. can't do body IS without moving lots of mass. And in-body stabilisation could be just impossible to implement in FF DSLR, so it seems that Canon won't go that way. -- Best regards Sylwek

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 4:26 AM, Herb Chong wrote: the sensor on the 7D moves about 1cm at maximum. that is a lot of movement. i doubt it will work on the DA lenses unless their image circle is much larger than the nominal. So far users of Sigma's DC lenses didn't report any problems... And KM

RE: Definitions

2005-07-16 Thread Bob W
Warning for all visitors to London: never, ever buy anything from those 'roach coaches' (great phrase). They're all over the place. The foul smell of their frying can really spoil the experience of some great places. They are unlicensed, and illegal. There have been several documentaries shown

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 3:49 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote: 1. How good is it? One is using the edge of the lens. It is quite good with shutter speeds up to 2 stops slower than usually. 2. Will it work with DA lenses with their narrower image circle? It seems so. Some users of D7D use Sigma DC lenses

OT: Roman burger recipe ( Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread Bob W
Here's the recipe from Apicius: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Pantheon/9013/recipies.html#3 I have a book of ancient Roman recipes, adapted for the modern kitchen. There are some very interesting dishes. You can also use Thai fish sauce instead of liquamen. In fact, Thai fish sauce is more or

Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead!

2005-07-16 Thread John Forbes
I was in my local camera shop recently, and they said they were now handling 50% more film dp as they were five years ago. Sounded impressive, until I remembered that five years ago we had four camera shops within a mile or so. Now we have one. Statistics always need interpretation. John

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! No , Boris - now I'm over reacting. Buzz off! I'm sick and tired of people telling me that I should be using new technology. That I can learn to love it. That I should embrace it. That I'll get used to it. That it will help my photography. I don't want to learn to love it. The

RE: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Don Sanderson
What??? No hand-made wire basket over an open hearth?? Microwave? You, you, Techno-Freak!! ;-) D -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:15 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera And

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread David Savage
LOL Tell us what you really think Shel. Dave P.S. I got to admire the kinda' person who'll go to the effort to type out a long and nicely worded rant :-) BTW I agree completely, non microwave popcorn is the best g On 7/16/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No , Boris - now I'm over

Re: OT: London Horror

2005-07-16 Thread DagT
På 16. jul. 2005 kl. 01.40 skrev keithw: DagT wrote: I agree with you Tim. I have friends from Kosovo. Down there they are still arguing about wrongs that were done 600 years ago. In that time they have had people, a few, but enough, trying to wipe the others out again and again, but the

RE: Darkroom temperature control.

2005-07-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Hi Shel; My main concern is in film developing. I'd like to establish conditions that allow me not have to be concerned with temerature for now. That way I can start changing one variable at a time, time, agitation, concentration, brand, etc. I have control over everything except temperature,

Re: OT: Special sauce (RE: -- Re: Definitions

2005-07-16 Thread David Savage
All food chains, McDonald's, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Domino's, Starbucks, Dome (I don't even know if they are outside of West OZ) etc. make terrible food. If they were interested in producing quality food, instead of money, they wouldn't be a chain. Within 10 minuets of my place I can think of 3

Re: PESO - Mittens at Dusk

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I admit that this shot is a bit cliche, but it is beautiful scenery, nonetheless. Taken on my recent Southern Utah trip. Pentax *istD, A 28-135/4, handheld ISO 800, 1/90 sec @ f/6.7 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0464.htm Bruce, a

Re: PESO - Mittens at Dusk

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Exactly which planet do you come from again Bill? I'm not telling. Arrakis would be my quess... Bill, are you wearing contact lenses so as to hide the real color of your eyes??? Boris

Re: PESO - Mittens before Dusk

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Another Iconic, Cliched picture from Monument Valley - believe it or not, I do have some Monument Valley shots that may be unfamiliar to you. Anyway, this was taken a bit earlier than the Mittens At Dusk shot. The sun hasn't quite set yet and the long shadows are creeping over the valley.

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread mike wilson
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, mike wilson wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: That begs the question: can you initiate mid-roll rewind? I imagine that in any rewind scenario, the film will be completely wound into the cannister - correct? Z1-p. Midroll rewind from a button

Re: PESOs: More Messenger Championships Pix

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I've simply stuck them in the same folder with the two of Tofu that I showed previously. NOTE: Do not open if you find any of the following offensive: displays of public nudity, obscene gestures, alcohol consumption in public. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. If, on the other hand those things

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thank you, David ... Unfortunately, Boris (who is generally a kind a gentle soul) will probably take it personally, and not realize that it's really got nothing to do with him directly. My meds will kick in soon enough and I'll fade off into the night, dreaming in grainy BW. Shel [Original

RE: Darkroom temperature control.

2005-07-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks everyone for the suggestions, they ranged from high-tech to no-tech! ;-) I just had a friend in the HVAC business suggest a solution the same as Bills, with a couple of twists. A 50-100 foot coil of small diameter copper tube in a fridge, *immersed in a large container of water*. The water

RE: OT: London Horror

2005-07-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
I am very sorry about one thing. By mistake I sent my mail on list. That was not my intention, not at all! As I said I don't want a debate. I just wanted to let Keith know how I felt about his arguments. I want to underline one word in the last sentence; felt. I don't claim my feelings as an

RE: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Sorry, didn't notice the non in there! I take back all my comments. But, then again, television? Pretty high tech stuff inside there. ;-) D -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:27 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE:

RE: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's an old, kerosene powered TV converted to run on used cooking oil. Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson Sorry, didn't notice the non in there! I take back all my comments. But, then again, television? Pretty high tech stuff inside there. ;-)

Re: It's the film cameras that are dead

2005-07-16 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
How do you think that film will be around if everyine is shooting digital, and no one is shooting film? In ten years, the only place you will see film in public is behind glass at the Smithsonian and george Eastman House. William Robb My thought is that the cameras will be more plentiful

Re: PESO - John Wayne

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Our guide told us that this basic scene was used in many of the old westerns for the cowboy/outlaw riding off into the desert. They would put the guy on a horse and have him head towards the distant rock formations. I'm guessing John Wayne must have done this more than once. Pentax

Re: PESO:Big wheel

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I just had do try my newest enablement, a used Tamron SP 17mm, with the Pentax SFXn when I saw this big wheel and the teenagers in the foreground. I made some other shoots too and will use this lens next week in the mountains on Mt. Rigi or Stanserhorn.

PUG is down this weekend

2005-07-16 Thread Adelheid v. K.
Yes i forgot to mention this to the list. I mixed the months, so the upgrade takes place this weekend. Cheers Adelheid : -Original Message- : From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 23:13 : To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net : Subject: Re: PUG? : : :

Re: PESO - Mittens before Dusk

2005-07-16 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note to self: Gotta go to Negev. Gotta visit Mitzpe Ramon... Damn, you're good :-). Aha! Desert enablement! :-) :-) :-) Enjoy yourself, man! Jostein

Re: PESO - Arch

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! There is a big portion of Monument Valley that you cannot go into without a guide and good 4 wheel drive for the sand. For this trip, I was able to arrange a private tour for our group in an air-conditioned 4-wheel drive van. We were able to start the tour in the early afternoon and end

OT: zero for everyone

2005-07-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! http://tinyurl.com/c8422 Received this in my CodeProject newsletter... Hope you'd have a chuckle... Boris

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Shel wrote: I'm sick and tired of people telling me that I should be using new technology. That I can learn to love it. That I should embrace it. That I'll get used to it. That it will help my photography. I don't want to learn to love it. The technology doesn't do anything for me. So

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Sylwester wrote: No it doesn't. The estimate is that AS allows you in practice to go down up to shutter speeds 2 stops slower, while IS/VR systems allow up to 3 stops. IS is 2 stops. VR 3 stops. Pål

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Cotty wrote: So if I want to find out what's happening with the 2005 model year Volkswagen, I search for 15 year old patents on the Ford web site then. Sure, if it depends on the laws of physics. Why do you think there are so many lens groups in an IS lens? Most of them is for correcting

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Joseph wrote: 3. Is this why the forthcoming high-performance telezoom will be a D FA? Reasoning: image stabilization is needed most of all for telephoto shots, and a D FA lens has more unused edge glass than does a DA lens. What high performance telezoom...? Pål

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Cotty wrote: Joseph, surprisingly, heavier gear means more mass, and actually less movement. A heavier lens/camera combo is actually easier to hand-hold, although it does make your arms ache ;-) That depends how heavy it is. Noone I know can held a 600mm lens stillIt is too heavy... :-)

The real sensor issue ...

2005-07-16 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
... isn't dust. It's these two spots. You can see them on the full image. Top center area. Collin

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
So are you going to the one across the street (Oxford St.?) from the Pret, or the one out by the round-a-bout? (Just remember, if there's time to lean, there's time to clean.) Regards, Bob S. On 7/16/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/7/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

Re: OT: zero for everyone

2005-07-16 Thread David Savage
Interesting Boris. Thanks for posting. So maybe being called bird brain isn't such a bad thing g Dave On 7/16/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! http://tinyurl.com/c8422 Received this in my CodeProject newsletter... Hope you'd have a chuckle... Boris

PAW: Is Rehearsal Almost Over?

2005-07-16 Thread frank theriault
Notice: Proud Parent Moment Upcoming: My youngest, Claire, auditioned for, and got a part in the children's chorus of a local production of a musical version Anne of Green Gables. They're putting on about 40 shows in late July and throughout August at the Thousand Islands Playhouse in

Re: Tip for ist D eye cup

2005-07-16 Thread cbwaters
I'll see your tip and raise you one: Get a little black rubber band to place around the eye-cup at the base. If you have women at your place, chances are there's a stash of these bands, just the right size, in your bathroom. If you don't have women about, go to the camera clinic at GFM and get

OT: Me and PAWs

2005-07-16 Thread frank theriault
The last month or two has been really busy for me. First there was GFM. Then CMWC at NYC. Throw in several visits with my kids, and there go most of my weekends. This past week my housemate's brother was visiting, and since the computer is in the spare room, access to the computer has been

Re: It's the film cameras that are dead

2005-07-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, I'll bet you a Big Mac we can find film in your freezer and mine in 10 years. July 16th, 2015 Regards, Bob S. On 7/15/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Collin R Brendemuehl Subject: It's the film cameras that are dead Apple's

Re: The real sensor issue ...

2005-07-16 Thread David Savage
Link? Dave On 7/16/05, Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... isn't dust. It's these two spots. You can see them on the full image. Top center area. Collin

Re: PESO - John Wayne

2005-07-16 Thread David Savage
Really nice Bruce. I think I need a vacation. The local environment hasn't been very inspiring lately :-) Dave On 7/16/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our guide told us that this basic scene was used in many of the old westerns for the cowboy/outlaw riding off into the desert. They

Re: PESO - Ripples II

2005-07-16 Thread brooksdj
Kenneth had asked if I worked this area at all - he could see some possible abstractions. I did take a bunch more of this sand area. Here is one that is rather abstract. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/350 sec @ f/11 Converted from

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-16 Thread brooksdj
http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Those little critters are hard to keep in focus when working hand held. It's pretty much hit and miss, and this is the best I've managed so far. One particular problem with ants is that their hide is

Re: PESO - Arch

2005-07-16 Thread Jack Davis
Bruce, A few years ago, I paid (dearly) for a guide who, as it turned out, didn't know the location of this spot. I didn't press it. Another example of my lack of persistence (wimpyness) in such things. Like your shot, but it appears sort of incomplete. It simply says here it is now bring your

Re: PESO - Purple swim cap

2005-07-16 Thread brooksdj
Nice shot Christian. The expression of pure concentration is very much alive in the shot. Great detail and lack of noise. Thats a ton better then D2H at 320 i'll tell you. One of these days.LOL Dave Just playing with 300mm candids during my kid's swim

Another istD road trip and version question

2005-07-16 Thread brooksdj
Dropped of my istD and Sigma 300 f4 for Brother Aaron to use at this weekend Bluejay AL baseball game against Tampa Bay. He has press passes for the weekend and submits photos to the link below as a Photo a Day feature. http://www.battersbox.ca/

Re: PESO - Mittens before Dusk

2005-07-16 Thread brooksdj
Another supurb shot Bruce. Again you have nailed the exposure and just enough shadow detail. The shot looks very sharp, showing great line work in the rocks. They DO look like mittens.LOL I think your shot on a wall with WW's BW version would look great. Dave

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/7/05, Pål Jensen, discombobulated, unleashed: That depends how heavy it is. Noone I know can held a 600mm lens stillIt is too heavy... :-) Agreed. Even a 300 2.8 is pushing it too much. I'm thinking of a 70- 200 2.8 zoom, with maybe a teleconverter as well. After half an hour, my

Re: Another istD road trip and version question

2005-07-16 Thread David Savage
To check the firmware hold down the Menu button when you switch the power on. Dave On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:06:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dropped of my istD and Sigma 300 f4 for Brother Aaron to use at this weekend Bluejay AL baseball game against Tampa

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/7/05, Pål Jensen, discombobulated, unleashed: IS is 2 stops. VR 3 stops. Actually, I think it's what you can get away with. Some are steadier than others, eh Steady ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Another istD road trip and version question

2005-07-16 Thread brooksdj
Yep that was it. Thanks Dave Its version 1.00. I thinmk i stil have my download for version 1.10 Dave To check the firmware hold down the Menu button when you switch the power on. Dave On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:06:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Best method to clean sensor

2005-07-16 Thread Alan P. Hayes
I'm with Godfrey here, only I use an incredibly inexpensive cosmetics brush. As here: http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/How_to/a_Brush_Your_Sensor/a_Brush_Your_Sensor.html This is worth a read even if you don't end up doing it his way. At 5:55 PM -0700 7/15/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I use

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/7/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm sick and tired of people telling me that I should be using new technology. I'm sick and tired of people telling me they're sick and tired . GRIN! But really - a 40 yr old coffee mug?? Interesting your 'back to basics' instincts. I

Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead!

2005-07-16 Thread Bill Owens
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead! At the Wal-Mart photo lab where I work, at least 70% of the film we process is from one time use cameras. It's now to the

Re: Best method to clean sensor

2005-07-16 Thread brooksdj
My campout vacation pics have some spots. That's not good. So I need to clean the sensor. What's the recommended method here? Collin Its inevitable dust will haunt us all, except Tom Reese.LOL I have used with great success a huricane blower,not

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/7/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: So are you going to the one across the street (Oxford St.?) from the Pret, or the one out by the round-a-bout? Oh, there's a small one near the TV studio in Abingdon. The class of student they have in there beggars belief. I think one of them

Re: PESO - Arch

2005-07-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/7/05, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0354.htm Comments welcome Nice again. Good use of composition Bruce :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: OT-Interesting fact about my ebay purchased Oly C-5050

2005-07-16 Thread David Savage
This week we got a new camera for work (Canon Ixus 50). Me being the resident camera guy I was tasked with setting it up. Holy Crap! Give me my *ist D any day. The amount of stuff buried in sub-sub-sub menus is outrageous. (Remember the *ist D was my first ever digital camera) Mind you, it takes

Re: Tip for ist D eye cup

2005-07-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/7/05, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: If you have women at your place, chances are there's a stash of these bands, just the right size, in your bathroom. If you don't have women about, go to the camera clinic at GFM and get one from Mark Roberts. What, a woman??? Cheers,

Re: OT: Special sauce (RE: -- Re: Definitions

2005-07-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Jul 2005 at 8:55, Bob W wrote: As far as burgers themselves are concerned, probably not, but I've only had 2 or 3 McDonalds' burgers in my life. It's not an experience I subject myself to willingly. We have a chain called Wimpy which preceded McD by many years, and they were

Re: Darkroom temperature control.

2005-07-16 Thread David Savage
LOL I thought you were trying to eliminate variables g Dave On 7/16/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Should leave plenty of room in the fridge to store film, paper, chemistry, and a 12-pack too! ;-) Don

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Jostein
I'm sure everyone has heard of the graph from Gartner Group about how people in an organisation adopt new technology. There are pioneers, that love to tinker with every new gadget. There are early adopters, who quickly learn to reap benefits of new technology. These two groups more or less

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-16 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html So you had some tropical nights, hadn't you? ;-) About two weeks of them, actually. I'm not adapted for that sort of thing. Me is pulling through the hottest days of the

Re: PESO - Herding Livestock

2005-07-16 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oksne.net/paw/herdingants.html Pretty darn good for hand holding Jostein. I like the cripsness of the ants and the eriee science fiction movie feel to it. Thanks Dave. Cheers, Jostein

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS That depends how heavy it is. Noone I know can held a 600mm lens stillIt is too heavy... :-) It wouldn't matter what a 600mm lens weighed, it's not a hand holdable focal length. William

Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead!

2005-07-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead! At the Wal-Mart photo lab where I work, at least 70% of the film we process is from one time use cameras. It's now to the point where close to 50% of our prints come through the Fuji kiosk, and many of

Re: Tip for ist D eye cup

2005-07-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Tip for ist D eye cup What, a woman??? It's like pornography. Hard to define, but you'll know it when you see it. William Robb

Re: It's the film cameras that are dead

2005-07-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: It's the film cameras that are dead Bill, I'll bet you a Big Mac we can find film in your freezer and mine in 10 years. July 16th, 2015 Not a safe bet for me. I have a film in my freezer that went stale in 1975. I think it's

Re: It's the film cameras that are dead

2005-07-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Collin R Brendemuehl Subject: Re: It's the film cameras that are dead My thought is that the cameras will be more plentiful than the number of users available. This is already the case, actually it has been the case for a couple of decades or more.

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Pål Jensen wrote: IS is 2 stops. VR 3 stops. It depends more on testing man's hands stability ;-) I saw some tests in which VR was slightly better and some where IS had an edge :-) -- Best regards Sylwek

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Cotty wrote: Agreed. Even a 300 2.8 is pushing it too much. I'm thinking of a 70- 200 2.8 zoom, with maybe a teleconverter as well. After half an hour, my muscles feel the strain. I think the best way to use such a lenses hand-held, would be using them like video

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 4:24 PM, William Robb wrote: It wouldn't matter what a 600mm lens weighed, it's not a hand holdable focal length. Even at 1/8000s? ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek

Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Fred
the SFX series does not auto rewind. Yes, fortunately (and some have suggested others that are kind enough, too. With a MZ-series it should be possible to quickly power of the camera at the end of the film or not? Could be - I hope I never have to have to test that concept, though - g. Fred

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Subject: Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS On Jul 16, 2005, at 4:24 PM, William Robb wrote: It wouldn't matter what a 600mm lens weighed, it's not a hand holdable focal length. Even at 1/8000s? ;-) If you could get a true 1/8000,

Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead!

2005-07-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the Wal-Mart photo lab where I work, at least 70% of the film we process is from one time use cameras. It's now to the point where close to 50% of our prints come through the Fuji kiosk, and many of the orders from it are in excess of 100 prints. To do

Re: It's the film cameras that are dead

2005-07-16 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Sullivan I'll bet you a Big Mac we can find film in your freezer and mine in 10 years. July 16th, 2015 Not a safe bet for me. I have a film in my freezer that went stale in 1975. I think it's getting processing that is going to be a problem.

Cotty, got any film at your house?

2005-07-16 Thread Mark Roberts
After scanning my slides from the UK trip yesterday, I realized that this was roll #2. I had completely forgotten that I shot two rolls of E6 over there... and now I can't find the first one anywhere. Cotty, if you find a roll of slide film around your house I'd expect it's much more likely to be

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On Jul 16, 2005, at 5:01 PM, William Robb wrote: If you could get a true 1/8000, maybe, but you can't get a true shutter speed faster than sync. That's true, only HSS, which has very limited range. -- Best regards Sylwek

RE: Darkroom temperature control.

2005-07-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Don ... for some reason I didn't realize you were talking about film development. My solution - very low tech - is to keep all the chemicals and water at the same temp. There are several gallon jugs of distilled water here, the working solution of developer, the working and stock solution of

RE: Darkroom temperature control.

2005-07-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Just Diet Pepsi, can't drink none of that el-kee-haul no more. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:00 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Darkroom temperature control. LOL I thought you were trying

Re: PESO - Mittens at Dusk

2005-07-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
It is very hard to determine something as under or over exposed. The reason is that the light is really what you are trying to control. This is what makes or breaks your photo. So you have to decide what you want the light to look like in relation to your subject and then expose for that. Is a

RE: Darkroom temperature control.

2005-07-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks for the tips Shel, they're good ones. Yep, I've been bit by the BW bug again. At the prices used darkroom stuff is going for these days, it's a pretty cheap bug too! ;-) I've paid about 10 cents on the dollar for the items I didn't still have. I'm setting up a pretty basic darkroom but I

Re: rags

2005-07-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 15, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: A month or so ago I ordered a subscription to Lenswork Extended. It's the entire magazine, plus a bunch of extra goodies, all in PDF format on a CD. I couldn't be happier. http://www.lenswork.com/lwx.htm I'm considering doing the same

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 06:12:42AM +0100, Cotty wrote: On 15/7/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there... Are you sure about that? Yes. Anyone who considers McDonalds to be the nadir of bad hamburgers has never

RE: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera

2005-07-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Wow, this has been a looong thread! I haven't got any posts regarding auto-rewind except this one. What was the discussion about? Don -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:42 AM To: Markus Maurer Subject: Re: I'm Getting an Auto

Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS

2005-07-16 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 02:14:07PM +0100, Cotty wrote: On 16/7/05, P?l Jensen, discombobulated, unleashed: That depends how heavy it is. Noone I know can held a 600mm lens stillIt is too heavy... :-) Agreed. Even a 300 2.8 is pushing it too much. I'm thinking of a 70- 200 2.8 zoom,

RE: Darkroom temperature control.

2005-07-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Don't forget to get a good grain focuser. http://tinyurl.com/d5slp Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson Thanks for the tips Shel, they're good ones. Yep, I've been bit by the BW bug again. At the prices used darkroom stuff is going for these days, it's a pretty cheap bug too!

Re: LF: Lightning tips and observed DS oddity?

2005-07-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 15, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Test it. It doesn't degrade the image in or out of the active shutter speeds (not in my *ist D anyhow). I can't hear the difference between two digital devices connected using AES/EBU, wired co-axial or TOSLink optical digital audio

RE: Darkroom temperature control.

2005-07-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Not quite as good (powerful) but I have 2 of these: http://www.adorama.com/DKFMG.html Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:06 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Darkroom temperature control. Don't forget

Re: Best method to clean sensor

2005-07-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 16, 2005, at 6:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its inevitable dust will haunt us all, except Tom Reese.LOL Dust has been haunting me since I started photography in 1968. Nothing new... I clean mine weekly and have had few problems. Hmm. I've cleaned the DS sensor once since

Re: Best method to clean sensor

2005-07-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 16, 2005, at 6:10 AM, Alan P. Hayes wrote: I'm with Godfrey here, only I use an incredibly inexpensive cosmetics brush. As here: http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/How_to/a_Brush_Your_Sensor/ a_Brush_Your_Sensor.html This is worth a read even if you don't end up doing it his way.

More HP-Kodak rumours

2005-07-16 Thread Mark Roberts
From today's Chicago Tribune: Eastman Kodak increased 70 cents, to $28.35, on speculation among traders that the company might be purchased by Hewlett-Packard. Spokesmen for both companies declined to comment. Hewlett-Packard advanced 31 cents, to $24.42.

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