PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Taken along The Embarcadero in San Francisco last October. Been meaning to post this for some time. http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/mansitting.html Low Tech Details - Sony DSC-S85, 8-bit TIFF, Photoshop, and a wee dram of Springbank 21 Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax

SV: PESO Library Pano

2005-11-12 Thread Jens Bladt
Well, as Rob pointed out, it's alwasy best to avoid the parallax problem in the forst place. Especially if you want to use photgraphs with a foreground. Jacks's library pano couldn't have been done without nodal point adjustment - there's simply to much depth in that scenery. Regards Jens Bladt

RE: PESO Library Pano

2005-11-12 Thread Jens Bladt
Nodal point adjustment becomes increasingly important the wider the lens is. Also, it is diffult to find the right lens adjustmenst (Spheric correction). I have sent a CD to Japan (Iseemedia, PhotoVista) with images for a 360 degree panorama. The support guy has offered to find he right

PESO (31ltd)

2005-11-12 Thread Bernd Scheffler
Rob Studdert wrote: Congratulations, the 31mm is an excellent lens and of course the black version is both professional and produces better photos :-) Thanks, Rob, I hope that, indeed ;-) In truth I chose the black one because I hope it will be more unobtrusive. One of the first pics

Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Cotty
I mention this not to tout another brand, but to inform those desiring digital full frame: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0511/05111201canon5dreview.asp Some interesting conclusions WRT lenses Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread David Savage
I had a play with one the other day. I've gotta say it's nice to look into a large viewfinder. Dave On 11/12/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mention this not to tout another brand, but to inform those desiring digital full frame:

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread Gaurav Aggarwal
Thanks Mat. If a generic adapter works, then does this mean that the hot shoe PC adapter only uses the trigger connection and not any of the other connections like ready, mode etc? Those would be different across different camera manufacturers and body, correct? Gaurav On 11/11/05, Mat Maessen

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Taken along The Embarcadero in San Francisco last October. Been meaning to post this for some time. http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/mansitting.html Low Tech Details - Sony DSC-S85, 8-bit TIFF, Photoshop, and a wee dram of Springbank 21 I really like this one... I only wish the

Re: PESO - Fadista Misia

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Time for a concert picture. This one is from a Fado concert at Oslo World Music Festival 2005. Misia is a Fadista (a female Fadosiger) in contemporary style. Fado is about love (often failed love), and longing. This concert is the greatest Fado concert I've been to, so far. Misia really is

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Speaking very subjectively, this doesn't really work for me. The framing is unique to be certain, but that doesn't communicate anything special to me. Well executed, nevertheless. Paul On Nov 12, 2005, at 3:06 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Taken along The Embarcadero in San Francisco last October.

Re: PESO - Fadista Misia

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Powerful image. You've captured the performer at a critical moment. Beautiful bokeh, great subtle color. Very well done. Paul

Re: PESO - Fadista Misia

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
One more comment: Clone out that little bright spot at the left center.

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Bob Blakely
I am one of those desiring full frame. I want it for the same reasons I eschew APS and choose 35mm in film. 35mm format means: 1.Higher resolution in the final product for any particular speed, or same resolution in the final product with higher speed (flip side of same coin). 2.

RE: PESO - Fadista Misia

2005-11-12 Thread Don Sanderson
Hi Tim, I've had very little time to visit the group in the last few weeks but I'm glad I caught this one. A wonderful shot, very powerful and well executed. You've captured the perfect moment very well indeed. Don -Original Message- From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Bob, you forgot number three. In truth, it should be number one. 1. You have more than three thousand dollars to spend on a single body. On Nov 12, 2005, at 8:06 AM, Bob Blakely wrote: I am one of those desiring full frame. I want it for the same reasons I eschew APS and choose 35mm in film.

Re: PESO Library Pano

2005-11-12 Thread Jack Isidore
| Nice panorama, Jack. Is it possible to watch it in 3D? | Regards | | Jens Bladt | http://www.jensbladt.dk 3D that would be nice. impossible I guess 2D VR maybe: http://www.bmt.tue.nl/pano/BIB_2/bibpano2.html On 11/12/05, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice panorama, Jack. Is it possible

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Mat Maessen wrote: You should be able to use a generic hot shoe PC adapter. Indeed you should, because I have done exactly that. I think I bought mine at Ritz or Wolf Camera, but that was several years ago. I'm actually a little surprised that a PZ-1 doesn't have a PC socket already on

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Bob Blakely
Yes, but mark my words... Digital camera bodies are like computers in they will follow a law similar to Moors(sp) law, i.e. their prices will plummet as capabilities expand. Nothing you buy today will retain craftsman value to be cherished tomorrow. Today's jewel will be discarded almost as

RE: PESO - Fadista Misia

2005-11-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you Boris. For me this is really a great compliment. I really admire Franks work on similar subjects. In fact, one of Franks pictures of the jazz singer Pirate Jenny, turned up in back of my head when I was processing the image. I am not able to recall what the similarities where,

RE: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
My dog is in desperate need for some fresh air, so I got to be fast on this one. No time for in depth analyses, but this photo moves me. It makes me think of the days when my father was still able to walk. Now he is in a wheelchair, and is hardly able to communicate. Tim Mostly harmless (just

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:04 AM, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: If a generic adapter works, then does this mean that the hot shoe PC adapter only uses the trigger connection and not any of the other connections like ready, mode etc? Those would be different across different camera manufacturers and

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Toralf Lund
Paul Stenquist wrote: Bob, you forgot number three. In truth, it should be number one. 1. You have more than three thousand dollars to spend on a single body. Actually, he talked about what he *wants*, and price doesn't usually come into the picture when you do... Except, there are some

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Are you intending to start this inane debate all over again? Godfrey On Nov 12, 2005, at 5:06 AM, Bob Blakely wrote: I am one of those desiring full frame. I want it for the same reasons I eschew APS and choose 35mm in film. ...

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/mansitting.html An interesting composition. I don't think it works quite so well in a standalone photo, but would work better as part of a project presentation of like works. Godfrey

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ?? I don't know of any dedicated flash units that use a PC type connection. The PC sync connection terminal only has the trigger contacts. Pentax AF400T combined with the LX gave TTL auto and

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Fair enuf, but why? What does the pic have or lack that makes you feel that way? What would you consider to be similar works: men/people sitting, photos made at angles, peoples feet and hands ... ? Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread Mat Maessen
On 11/12/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know of any dedicated flash units that use a PC type connection. The PC sync connection terminal only has the trigger contacts. Pentax AF400T combined with the LX gave TTL auto and shutter speed setting via the PC socket. Now you

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 12, 2005, at 2:31 AM, Cotty wrote: I mention this not to tout another brand, but to inform those desiring digital full frame: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0511/05111201canon5dreview.asp Some interesting conclusions WRT lenses Thanks for pointing out the review. I read this and

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 12, 2005, at 7:25 AM, Mat Maessen wrote: I don't know of any dedicated flash units that use a PC type connection. The PC sync connection terminal only has the trigger contacts. Pentax AF400T combined with the LX gave TTL auto and shutter speed setting via the PC socket. Now you

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's a photo with a particular kind of space and feel: textural/ graphic in its composition, contrasting familiar animate human form against inanimate forms in a particular way. The question comes down to What are you trying to say with it? Alone it is curious and invites interpretation.

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ?? On Nov 12, 2005, at 7:25 AM, Mat Maessen wrote: I don't know of any dedicated flash units that use a PC type connection. The PC sync connection terminal only has the trigger contacts.

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench It's a photo with a particular kind of space and feel: textural/ graphic in its composition, contrasting familiar animate human form against inanimate forms in a particular way. The question

Re: improper photog canadian style

2005-11-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanksgiving week is (was) hunting season in Wisconsin. 250,000 hunters headed to cabins in the woods with rifles and copious amounts of beer. Many things were killed, often deer, sometimes dogs or cows. (You have to pay the farmer when you kill a cow.) The Wisconsin natives claimed all the

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL succinct and to the point ;-)) Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: William Robb I thought it looked like it was taken from a camera toss series..

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/11/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: there are some kinds of people who want certain things more just because they are expensive... You know my ex-wife? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: PESO (31ltd)

2005-11-12 Thread Mat Maessen
On 11/12/05, Bernd Scheffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In truth I chose the black one because I hope it will be more unobtrusive. One of the first pics (31mm/1.8, F=2.8) http://people.freenet.de/bienenbernd/TEMP/Himbeere.jpg Excellent picture. I just want to reach out and eat one of those

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Subjectively is as good a way to look at a photo and to express yourself about it as any, I suppose. Thanks for being candid ;-)) Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax From: Paul Stenquist Speaking very subjectively, this doesn't really work for me. The framing is unique to be

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks for taking the time to look and comment, Boris. FWIW, I wanted the hand to be slightly truncated, and it may be where I'm satisfied with it. The photo may have been framed a bit too tight, for while the framing is exactly as shot and as intended, it leaves no room for subtle adjustments.

Re: PESO:Maynooth Train Station

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Godfrey, you seem to be more attracted to high key images than to low key... Neither of the two in question is not high or low key per se, but I noticed in your work general tendency to brighter tones... I find this remarkable! Interesting statement. Can you give me an idea which of

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaves

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I'm glad that everyone else has said they like it a lot, because it makes it easier to say what I think about it. It really bothers me. Looking at it is very disorienting, and not in a good way g. It literally makes me feel uneasy when I look at it. I don't know why, but it's an actual

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh, yes. They have serious legal trouble. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/10/2005 6:43:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you know that Sony is technically liable. Herb = Are they? Marnie aka Doe -- When you're worried or in doubt,

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaves

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! This is a better subject for the soft focus effect than the previous one. This effect doesn't seem to be nearly the same as a true soft focus lens - more like an old Kenko filter I had that was a curved glass with a center hole cut out. I am seeing a much more distinct edge in sort of an

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaves

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Overall I like the composition and the effect of the soft focus. The rendering seems a little odd, though ... as if there were too much sharpening applied or something. Godfrey, you're too insightful, you know... I found that various sharpening techniques when applied to soft lens

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs Oh, yes. They have serious legal trouble. Didn't your government make virus writing a federal felony? Aiding and abetting would be a pretty big deal, I would think. William

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaves

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Actually, frank, I agree. It disturbs me, although it doesn't make me queasy per se. I like the leaves, the composition, but something about the soft edges doesn't work for me. Maybe it makes me feel vision impaired, like I have cataracts or poor peripheral vision or something. ;-)

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaves

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! So, you wonder what Tim might say? So do I ;-) (I kind of wonder why you wonder, but that’s not important) To answer that - you recently posted some photo(s) that related to the same general motif... So I wanted to know your opinion as a fellow fallen leaves shooter ;-). There is

Re: PESO - Fallen Leaves

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: PESO - Fallen Leaves That's most interesting thing, you've said, Tim. I never thought of realistic soft focus... I shall have to ponder this a little. This is indeed very deep observation... At least to me, right here, right

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-12 Thread mike wilson
Rob Studdert wrote: On 11 Nov 2005 at 12:55, John Forbes wrote: Not entirely true, Mike. I saw a documentry featuring turdcams, and although the elephants did spot a couple of them, most survived. One of the best wild-life docs I've seen. If it's the doco I saw the elephants cottoned on

Re: SV: Any reason not to buy a *istD?

2005-11-12 Thread David Savage
I remember these. There was one with lions another with elephants, both featuring David Attenborough doing the voice over. http://www.jdp.co.uk/progs/lions_spy_in_the_den.php http://www.jdp.co.uk/progs/elephants.php Dave On 11/13/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Studdert wrote:

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm still running one computer that's at least 7 years old. (Maybe older depending on which parts you're including...). Bob Blakely wrote: Yes, but mark my words... Digital camera bodies are like computers in they will follow a law similar to Moors(sp) law, i.e. their prices will plummet

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:04 AM, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: If a generic adapter works, then does this mean that the hot shoe PC adapter only uses the trigger connection and not any of the other connections like ready, mode etc? Those would be different across different

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
Either great minds think alike or... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ?? I don't know of any dedicated flash units that use a PC type connection. The PC sync connection terminal only has the trigger

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Full Frame I'm still running one computer that's at least 7 years old. (Maybe older depending on which parts you're including...). Point and shoot cameras are like personal computers. Relatively disposable, and quickly

Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ??

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: PC hot shoe adapter for PZ-1 ?? Either great minds think alike or... I like to think of it that way. The alternative is too horrible to dwell upon overmuch. William Robb

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't know how they're going to throw an entire Japanese Corporation in the federal pen... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs Oh, yes. They have serious legal trouble. Didn't your

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Point and shoot cameras are like personal computers. Relatively disposable, and quickly surpassed on feature/benefit/price. I think DSLRs can be equated more to mainframes, more capable, and while quickly surpassed, still

RE: PESO - Fadista Misia

2005-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hello Tim ... This is one of your better photos, and the processing is pretty good as well. Good work - there appears to be quantifiable improvement in your concert pix. One strong compositional point is the diagonal created by the microphone stand, the microphone, and the angle of the singer's

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Point and shoot cameras are like personal computers. Relatively disposable, and quickly surpassed on feature/benefit/price. I think DSLRs can be equated more to mainframes, more capable, and while quickly surpassed, still eminently functional for a very long time. Bill, is there a

RE: PESO - Fallen Leaves

2005-11-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
I understand more when you state that you were going for the transition between hot summer and cold winter in the fallen leaves. That makes sense to me. Never the less, it did not work for me. Perhaps it is a cultural thing, perhaps limitation in my perceptions. All this makes it a very good

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/12/2005 9:35:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know how they're going to throw an entire Japanese Corporation in the federal pen... Me either. And I wonder who specifically will sue. Marnie aka Doe

Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench

2005-11-12 Thread Adam Maas
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Taken along The Embarcadero in San Francisco last October. Been meaning to post this for some time. http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/mansitting.html Low Tech Details - Sony DSC-S85, 8-bit TIFF, Photoshop, and a wee dram of Springbank 21 Shel You meet the nicest

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
I predict a class action suit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2005 9:35:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know how they're going to throw an entire Japanese Corporation in the federal pen... Me either. And I wonder who specifically

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 12:31:47PM -0500, Christian wrote: - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Point and shoot cameras are like personal computers. Relatively disposable, and quickly surpassed on feature/benefit/price. I think DSLRs can be equated more to

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling Oh, yes. They have serious legal trouble. Didn't your government make virus writing a federal felony? Aiding and abetting would be a pretty big deal, I would think. Here's an interesting twist: Since the Sony malware is technically a

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 12, 2005, at 2:31 AM, Cotty wrote: I mention this not to tout another brand, but to inform those desiring digital full frame: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0511/05111201canon5dreview.asp Some interesting conclusions WRT lenses Thanks for pointing out the

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread Adam Maas
P. J. Alling wrote: I predict a class action suit. Your prediction has already come true. One was filed last week, and I don't see it having issues getting certified. -Adam

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
Buy a Sony copy protected CD now to get in on the class. Adam Maas wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I predict a class action suit. Your prediction has already come true. One was filed last week, and I don't see it having issues getting certified. -Adam -- When you're worried or in doubt,

Re: PESO - Fadista Misia

2005-11-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 12, 2005, at 11:49, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't understand her reddish/orange hand. It doesn't match the skin tones on her face It's a glove! I still like this picture, btw. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 12, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Adam Maas wrote: The D200 seems a far better deal and a camera that will outperform the 5D in several ways. Actually, if I were a Canon shooter, I suspect I'd still opt for the 20D over the 5D. Yes, same here. I still have a small collection of some favorite

RE: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I don't know about that, even the wealthiest people I have ever met don't want to pay more for something JUST BECAUSE its more, they want something better, not just costlier... jco -Original Message- From: Toralf Lund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:11 AM

RE: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
My PC is now 2.5 years old but unlike in the past its aging better than my previous units, I don't even feel any need to upgrade yet while in the past every two years I did upgrade... jco -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:32

Re: PESO - Fadista Misia

2005-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That was my first thought, but I looked carefully and for a long time, and came away thinking it's not a glove. In either case, it's a major distraction, and doing ~something~ to reduce its impact on the photo might be a good idea. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original

PESO(s): Two fall shots from Pittsburgh

2005-11-12 Thread Mark Roberts
I've been so busy with work for school projects that I've barely had any time to shoot photos for myself lately. I managed to get a couple in today. Two contrasting impressions of a fall day in the 'Burgh. http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing

RE: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Jack Davis
My guess, a large percentage of people equate quality with price and won't permit themselves to settle for something common to the masses. Additionally, they will not miss an opportunity to let others know how quality discerning and well-to-do they are by embedding the price they paid into a

Re: PESO(s): Two fall shots from Pittsburgh

2005-11-12 Thread Jack Davis
Mark, Classic S curve in railroad track shot, very nice! Later fall color could only improve. Building reflections scene is a well composed mix of architectural styles. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been so busy with work for school projects that I've barely had any

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs I don't know how they're going to throw an entire Japanese Corporation in the federal pen... Me either. And I wonder who specifically will sue. Do you guys not

Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: Full Frame I think even those days are coming to an end. I used to upgrade our home PCs every 18 months to two years (staggered, so the older machine could be as much as four years old by the time it got replaced), but there's

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: RE: Full Frame My guess, a large percentage of people equate quality with price and won't permit themselves to settle for something common to the masses. There are also those of us who just prefer using and owning higher build

RE: Paw:Our youngest Halloween guest

2005-11-12 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Odd headgear - was that part of a costume? sounds like you may have had an enjoyable evening ;-)) Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] istD with Sigma Super 500 and DA 16-45

RE: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
FWIW, One thing I did just upgrade regarding image editing and PCing in general is my monitor. I switched to a 19 super trinitron CRT running at 1200x1600 and the difference is huge compared to my old monitor. I would never go back to 960x1280 and that's about all you can get on the trendy flat

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Tom C
It remains to be seen just how long a camera mfr. will offer repair on a DSLR. I suspect we're not looking at the same timeframe as the K and M bodies. With DLSR prices dropping and power increasing, they are quickly going to be disposable the same as PC's. I don't expect more than 3 years

Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:27 PM, William Robb wrote: I've been considering one more upgrade for a machine which would be used primarily for image editing (I may be a while before I get back into the darkroom), and am considering one of the AMD 64 bit dual core processors. Is this going to

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Jack Davis
Absolutely, Bill...I'm referring to those who allow price alone to dictate their choices without any technical or use consideration. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: RE: Full Frame My guess, a large percentage of

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I predict a class action suit. Your prediction has already come true. One was filed last week, and I don't see it having issues getting certified. Buy a Sony copy protected CD now to get in on the class. Don't

Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame Photoshop makes pretty good performance leaps using Dual and Quad processor G5s running Mac OS X. (From the quick demos I've seen, so does Apple's upcoming Aperture software.) I

Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame FWIW, One thing I did just upgrade regarding image editing and PCing in general is my monitor. I switched to a 19 super trinitron CRT running at 1200x1600 and the difference is huge

Re: Hackers Use Sony/BMG DRM Software to Hide in PCs

2005-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think that would be necessary, just have to claim you didn't know about the problem, the case isn't in court yet, just filed. Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I predict a class action suit.

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2005-11-12, at 11:31, Cotty wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0511/05111201canon5dreview.asp Some interesting conclusions WRT lenses Not only lenses, but about 5D itself too: However there are many photographers quite happy with the results they get from their current cameras,

Re: PESO(s): Two fall shots from Pittsburgh

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. I sent the url to my daughter who lived in Pittsburgh for five years. Paul On Nov 12, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: I've been so busy with work for school projects that I've barely had any time to shoot photos for myself lately. I managed to get a couple in today. Two

Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I run my 20-inch Apple Cinema Display (trendy flat panel:-) at 1680 x 1050. It's superb for image editing and is beautifully in synch with my printer. Paul On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:02 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: Modern PC hardware,

New lens

2005-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Got in an A50/1.4 and will sell the F50/1.7. Guess who sold them? You guessed it. Nguyen. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Re: PESO(s): Two fall shots from Pittsburgh

2005-11-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Classic S curve in railroad track shot, very nice! Thanks! It really needs a train, though, doesn't it? Preferably a steam locomotive! Later fall color could only improve. Sadly, we're about at the end of fall color here. I missed some spectacular

Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Same here. When I go for the next new system (I'm eyeing but not yet ready to spend for a G5 DP tower), I'd like to get it with the 23 Cinema Display, 1920 x 1200 optimum resolution. (Oh yeah, a 30 would be even nicer with 2560 x 1600 but I doubt I want to spend quite that much ...)

Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 12, 2005, at 1:05 PM, William Robb wrote: Photoshop makes pretty good performance leaps using Dual and Quad processor G5s running Mac OS X. (From the quick demos I've seen, so does Apple's upcoming Aperture software.) I don't know how it does with multiprocessor hardware running

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Subject: Re: Full Frame Many advanced users who switched to digital from film may say yes. But for ordinary people, who bought DSLRs because they must be better being SLRs it doesn't matter. Consider that for most SLR buyers,

Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame I run my 20-inch Apple Cinema Display (trendy flat panel:-) at 1680 x 1050. It's superb for image editing and is beautifully in synch with my printer. How much do those things cost

Re: PESO(s): Two fall shots from Pittsburgh

2005-11-12 Thread Jack Davis
Could it have been the duct taped lumps under their flowing garments that made the dweeb suspicious..? Yes, steam trains improve all images where tracks exist. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Classic S curve in railroad track shot,

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Jack Davis
My future solutuion may be to have both a full frame sensor body and a partial frame sensor body back-up. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Subject: Re: Full Frame Many advanced users who switched to digital from

Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't know what a good CRT sells for these days. I think I've seen the Apple Cinema Display for about $900. I paid $1200 several years ago, but I don't regret it. Paul On Nov 12, 2005, at 5:24 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Modern PC

Re: Full Frame

2005-11-12 Thread graywolf
Well, I kind of admire my well made IBM Thinkpad. I might as well, as a 486 is only good for admiring these days unhappy chuckle. Electronics surely is a throw away technology. Hu...? Make that modern electronics, my 1979 Technics stereo receiver works fine, sounds great. graywolf

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