RE: Holy Sureshot, I Actually Won Something...

2007-02-08 Thread Bob W
Breakfast-with-the-Giraffes They say that if you sup with the devil you should use a long spoon. I believe the same is true when you breakfast with giraffes. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Sawyer Sent: 08 February

Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?

2007-02-08 Thread David Savage
I don't know, but you pot of twigs looks nice. Cheers, Dave On 2/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread mike wilson
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/07 Wed PM 11:56:08 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Long-delayed GFM shots I shot a roll of Kodak Plus-X in the 645 at GFM last June. Scott Loveless actually souped the stuff for me on site but I didn't get

Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread mike wilson
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/08 Thu AM 12:21:33 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US? At 01:50 AM 8/02/2007, Christian wrote: Amita Guha wrote: I just had to ship two lenses to

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread mike wilson
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/08 Thu AM 01:13:23 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Long-delayed GFM shots Verynice. The BW really give it a soul. I did not shoot the 6x7 last year, but will now. Dave You will probably need a .357

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high

Re: A 400/2.8 and A70-210/4

2007-02-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Igor Roshchin wrote: Heavy on the pocket and beyond: Seemingly a rear lens: A 400/2.8 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20248576.html The price seems to be rather reasonable: $2.5K for this expensive lens. (I cannot justify anything over $1000 for myself.)

Re: FA77 - going out of production?

2007-02-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I've heard less credible rumors on the DA55, but here's hoping it's an f/2 or faster too! That should be extremely straightforward: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/normal/K55f1.8.html Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Cotty wrote: On 7/2/07, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed: UPS and others charge extortionate brokerage fees and if they fail to deliver, their collection points are miles away. Parcel Force collection points are scattered evenly about and the nearest is a ten

Re: OT: what do you do when you drive?

2007-02-08 Thread David Savage
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/6/2007 1:39:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Checkout this fellow: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/tayside_and_central/6335491.stm Funny, as bad as talking on a cell

Re: PESO: Four Generations

2007-02-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bruce. On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:25 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I rather like this. It is about the two of them reading together and it is well depicted. Knowing their relationship enhances the image. -- Bruce Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 6:20:06 PM, you wrote: PS Grace and my mom. DA

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread David Savage
Nothing at all worng with that shot :-) Nicely done. Cheers, Dave On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of

Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?

2007-02-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm glad it made you smile. Paul On Feb 8, 2007, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: ROTFLMAO P. J. Alling wrote: McCoy It's Dead Jim. /mccoy Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg -- PDML

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) When I went up to northern Northern California to visit Scott

Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?

2007-02-08 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg That's plenty of water; just in the wrong state (chemically and geographically) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: A85 f1.4 and A135 f1.8 at www.fotoabro.nl (sold)

2007-02-08 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 14:13:57 +0100 (CET), Frank Wajer wrote: grab them while you can. 650 euro a piece. I already have both of them, they are awesome. Well, they are gone, after trying to convince myself for two days I did not need the 135, I gave them a call anyway :-) These two for 650

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like it. Do you have any that show the whole house? It's an interesting bit of history. Paul On Feb 8, 2007, at 6:04 AM, David Savage wrote: Nothing at all worng with that shot :-) Nicely done. Cheers, Dave On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it:

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread David J Brooks
If i have room, i'll bring my tank. If i don't shoot any BW film, i can drink soup from it then.:-) Dave On 2/7/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread David J Brooks
On 2/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfmbw/ Verynice. The BW really give it soul. Thanks. Coming from GFM's King of Infrared that's high praise, indeed! Oh Oh. Talk about pressure for this year.:) I did not shoot the

Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread Amita Guha
Yes, that happened to me this time. The part I find annoying is that one delivery attempt is made and then the customer isn't notified for a couple of days, or even a week, unless I track it down on my end. Amita On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to track a USPS lens

Re: FA77 - going out of production?

2007-02-08 Thread Amita Guha
On 2/7/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's time Pentax balanced out their lineup and released a DFA* 200mm f4 Macro, to replace the FA* version they boneheadedly discontinued before I could afford it :-) I know there aren't a lot of Sigma fans on this list, but Sigma just released

Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread Amita Guha
No, I was talking about regular Express Mail, though I'm starting to think about using Global Express. I just hate charging $80 and up for shipping. Amita On 2/7/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean USPS Global Express? That is about the best way in my limited experience. Two weeks

Re: FA77 - going out of production?

2007-02-08 Thread David Savage
On 2/8/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's time Pentax balanced out their lineup and released a DFA* 200mm f4 Macro, to replace the FA* version they boneheadedly discontinued before I could afford it :-) I know there aren't a lot

Re: OT: what's the best way to ship something overseas from the US?

2007-02-08 Thread David Savage
On 2/8/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip My old man was quite surprised to be receiving a Christmas gift in February. :-) Dave (from the arse end of the planet) I'm still waiting for a copy of a certain book. Three years. Isn't that

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
It must be nice to be able to spend large sums of money to replace perfectly function lenses for a marginal increase in performance and functionality. Mandated deprication (read: loss of aperture coupler) aside, obtaining 95% of the optical performance for 10% of the expense sounds like

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
you are calling not performing as well. I dont think its fair or show's much understanding to describe them that way when you are using DA lenses optimized for APS on APS with FF lenses which are optimized for FF but not using them FF and are only using them on APS. Sure This

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yep, I meant comparing instead of using. Thanks for the clarification request. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? you

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
If I had to buy all new lenses for any DSLR, I wouldnt buy a pentax DSLR. The main advantage of buying a Pentax DSLR is if you already have a bunch of Pentax Lenses. If you dont or have to, or need to buy all new ones, I would go with canon as they have more bodies/lenses to choose from and

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one of these should do it:

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Eric Featherstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi! Something like one

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom N only a sor of warranty which would warrant (obviously) that your lovely $1000 software will still be useful onece new Window$ or OSX or whatever comes out or new ACR or whatever. This sort of forcing

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? If I had to buy all new lenses for any DSLR, I wouldnt buy a pentax DSLR. The main advantage of buying a Pentax DSLR is if you already have a bunch of Pentax Lenses. If you dont or have to, or need to buy

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related to format (sensor) size, not feature set issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether.

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? For the hobbyist, it's a lot harder to justify big money on lenses that produce images at best marginally better than older, cheaper ones (provided they're willing to forgo the nicey new features like AF).

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
Beautiful exposure and composition. Love the textures and technical imperfections of its rough hand constructions. I lived near a place in northern CA. named Scott's Valley, which is located between San Jose and Santa Cruz, but noted that there are other Scott Valleys in the state. I don't think

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: N only a sor of warranty which would warrant (obviously) that your lovely $1000 software will still be useful onece new Window$ or OSX or whatever comes out or new ACR or whatever. This sort of forcing you to upgrade is lame to say the

640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)

2007-02-08 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg ^^^ Samsung versiuon of K10D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Speaking of upgrades. My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team. Bullshit if you ask me. What on earth makes SP2 so much

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In September 2005 I bought my wife a Mac Mini for her birthday. When she opened it she asked me if Adobe offered special pricing for switching from the PC version to the Mac version of Photoshop, and Out of curiousity Scott, how much would it

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In September 2005 I bought my wife a Mac Mini for her birthday. When she opened it she asked me if Adobe offered special pricing for switching from the PC version to the Mac version of

Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)

2007-02-08 Thread Christian
Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg ^^^ Samsung versiuon of K10D Breaking news, everyone :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of upgrades. My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team.

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 8, 2007, at 6:40 AM, Mat Maessen wrote: On 2/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In September 2005 I bought my wife a Mac Mini for her birthday. When she opened it she asked me if Adobe offered special pricing for switching from the PC version to the Mac version of

Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/r-rated/640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg ^^^ Samsung versiuon of K10D Breaking news, everyone :-) More good news from everyone's favorite write-only user. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread mike wilson
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/02/08 Thu PM 02:45:02 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom Speaking of upgrades. My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Christian
Boris Liberman wrote: Speaking of upgrades. My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team. Bullshit if you ask me. What on

Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)

2007-02-08 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Well, I didn't know that there was a Samsung 12-24 lens... - Mensaje original De: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves, 8 de febrero, 2007 15:58:24 Asunto: Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels) Roman wrote:

Re: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 8, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: My home PC is running Win XP SP1. Please don't try to convince me it is not good. Now, LR comes and says - I shall run on SP1, but you should upgrade to SP2 so that with SP1 you won't get any support from my team. Bullshit if you ask me. What

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2007 4:02:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it. Do you have any that show the whole house? It's an interesting bit of history. Paul === Thanks, Paul. Uh, not entirely, no. Part of the front, I think. It was midday when I arrived

Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2007 6:15:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think maybe it's not getting enough water? http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5568636size=lg == LOL. Too much water. Of the frozen variety. Thanks for the laugh. Marnie aka

Re: PESO--On My Way to Work: Tree in Cemetery

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2007 8:33:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Rick, It is a pretty cool tree. I agree that there is a shot or three in there. This one doesn't seem to be it for me. I would certainly look at a lower angle, different perspectives, different

Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)

2007-02-08 Thread Christian
Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Well, I didn't know that there was a Samsung 12-24 lens... You mean a Pentax lens with a blue ring instead of green and a fake German name on it. I've no issue with rebranding stuff, like the body and lenses, but what annoys me is that places like PopPhoto make it

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:24:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's a fine photo. The only thing I would say is that it looks like you're looking down on that wall, so the vertical lines of the window -- which I'm sure weren't parallel anyway -- look a bit

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
Beautiful exposure and composition. Love the textures and technical imperfections of its rough hand constructions. I lived near a place in northern CA. named Scott's Valley, which is located between San Jose and Santa Cruz, but noted that there are other Scott Valleys in the state. I don't

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb = That has got to be one of the worst commercials, ever. Like in really, really, really bad taste. Marnie aka

Re: Offensive photo!

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/6/2007 9:46:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ;-) From a 10k race I photographed a couple of weeks ago... http://www.robertstech.com/run/graphics/pages/7d700259.htm = Cute. Love the pink gloves. And I don't get it. Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG Image, 640x640 pixels)

2007-02-08 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Ah, of course it is rebranded...I was just trying to find some actual news in the original post ;-) - Mensaje original De: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves, 8 de febrero, 2007 17:01:41 Asunto: Re: 640x640-samsung_GX10.jpg (JPEG

Re: PESO--On My Way to Work: Tree in Cemetery

2007-02-08 Thread David J Brooks
Nice shot and angle Rick. Give Frank a shout, he'll blur it up fer ya. vbg Dave On 2/7/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This tree has fascinated me since I first saw it a few months ago. This morning, after the closest thing Philly has had to a snowstorm this winter, I took a

Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related to format (sensor) size, not feature set issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether. Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what the lens can do. William Robb So, without

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread David J Brooks
He might have made more money if his house had three other sides.vbg Sorry, feebel humor atttempt. I like the shot and the conversion. Good detail in the logs and window. Dave On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
The one near Yreka is, also, a Scott Valley. It's well up north, not far from the small town of Fort Jones. My Scott's Valley is nearer central state and a few thousand feet up in the Santa Cruz Mtns.. My offerings here are rather pointless (as usual), just idol finger prattle. Thanks, always,

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end up making a good bit of money -- with a cattle ranch. :-) ... I wasn't using a tripod,

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:52:09 -0500 (EST) All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj So who's down and out so far? Agfa and Forte? Anyone else? I really expected Kodak to be the last man standing. This could be

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: All of my comments made in this thread regarding APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related to format (sensor) size, not feature set issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether. Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what

A 400/2.8 and A70-210/4

2007-02-08 Thread Jim King
Igor Roshchin wrote on Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:32:52 -0800: (snip) Heavy on the pocket and beyond: Seemingly a rear lens: A 400/2.8 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20248576.html The price seems to be rather reasonable: $2.5K for this expensive lens. (I cannot justify anything over $1000

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread w__robb
-- So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to not having an auto-aperture? Bullshit. If you're too damn lazy to

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:50:07PM +, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my laptop I could bring the Minolta Scan Multi!

A 400/2.8 and A70-210/4

2007-02-08 Thread Jim King
Igor Roshchin wrote on Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:32:52 -0800: (snip) Heavy on the pocket and beyond: Seemingly a rear lens: A 400/2.8 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20248576.html The price seems to be rather reasonable: $2.5K for this expensive lens. (I cannot justify anything over $1000

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj I'd like to think that Fuji or Ilford may have an interest in Kodak's technology, at the very least. Scott Loveless Fujak?

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:32:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb = That has got to be one of the worst

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
If you only consider one parameter when you are making an equipment purchase you are a fool. Glass quality is certainly the most important part of a lens buying decision, but it isn't the only part. In context, a couple of people on list have noted that the newer lenses do a better job of

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:19:37AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: But calling someone who wants to take advantage of pattern evaluative metering, linked AE and focus point, MTF prioritized exposure metering, automatic recognition of lens focal length for image stabilization, improved

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj I'd like to think that Fuji or Ilford may have an interest in Kodak's

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: I really expected Kodak to be the last man standing. boggle You must be referring to a different Kodak than the one I've been observing for the past 20 years or so! I'm surprised they've survived this long, given their management. If Kodak wasn't planning on selling off

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread DagT
Just a small comment: My A*135mm 1.8 and FA100mm 2.8 macro are not as good on my dslrs as they are on film. This is not because of the smaller sensor size but because they are optimized for film, not sensors. If Pentax made a FF camera they would have to make new lenses that were

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Adam Maas
Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj So who's down and out so far? Agfa and Forte? Anyone else? I really expected Kodak to be the last man

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2007 9:19:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The one near Yreka is, also, a Scott Valley. It's well up north, not far from the small town of Fort Jones. === Fort Jones is IN Scott Valley. Yup, that's the one. Marnie aka Doe :-) --

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:32:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/7/2007 9:11:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try the Polo then... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1aVSXvcV3M William Robb

Re: A 400/2.8 and A70-210/4

2007-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:22:23PM -0500, Jim King wrote: Thanks (I think) for the post, Igor. I've been looking for a copy of this monster in reasonably good condition and at a reasonable price for my collection of A and A* primes. I pulled the trigger and ordered it from Adorama

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:50:07PM +, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get a SCSI card for my

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread w__robb
Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bill, I respectfully disagree with you here. Your achievements have nothing to do with whether someone else knows what they're talking about. True, but they at least give my opinions some credibility My objective opinion is that this thread is degenerating

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice capture. Reminds me of buildings I've seen in Bodie, Ca, The Grand Tetons Wyoming. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Homestead This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for

Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?

2007-02-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
It's Dead Jim. It ain't dead, its just resting. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium? ROTFLMAO P. J. Alling wrote: McCoy It's Dead Jim. /mccoy Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you think maybe

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you only consider one parameter when you are making an equipment purchase you are a fool. Did anyone say that? Glass quality is certainly the most important part of a lens buying decision, but it isn't the only part. In context, a couple of people on list have noted

Re: War Photographer

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/7/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The look kinda like ammo cans, but they're very small. They fit 6 or 8 35mm cassettes side by side. Once the kids are in bed I'll grab a still from the movie so everyone can see what I'm trying to describe. I couldn't get a screen shot.

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread w__robb
Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Composition trumps all. :-) At least is is actually completely separate from equipment. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: I really expected Kodak to be the last man standing. I wasn't very clear. What I meant to say was that I expected to Kodak to hold on to the film business to the bitter end. boggle You must be referring to a different

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2007 9:13:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the side of a house my great grandfather built in 1858. He came from Scotland to California for the California Gold Rush. He did end

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2007 8:44:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He might have made more money if his house had three other sides.vbg Sorry, feebel humor atttempt. I like the shot and the conversion. Good detail in the logs and window. Dave = Thanks, Dave.

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card (except for a gold stripe). I can't remember when

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Screw you, I know more about what I was talking about and what I posted than you do. when I was talking about the imaging capability IN THIS THREAD, of course I was referring to optical qualities of FF(legacy? - not my term) lenses on APS/Future FF digital vs DA lenses on APS digital which are

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Eric Featherstone wrote: Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( http://www.synchrotech.com/product-1394/firewire-uscsi-conv_01.html Under $80.00! I'm gonna get one! OK everyone going to GFM: You'll be able to shoot medium format BW for the digital photo

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a hint that because I am finding the options that lenses designed to complement my camera give me are desirable, that i am somehow a lazy photographer. I take umbrage with that. If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rumour has it that Forte's factory may have been sold. But it seriously needed an upgrade (they were running pre-WW2 equipment). Kodak wants to sell its film line, not shut it down. I suspect that if they sell it, the film unit will outlast Kodak

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: On 08/02/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you really want (assuming your laptop supports it, of course) is a cardbus card. These are, naturally, more expensive :-(. They look just like a PCMCIA card

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread w__robb
Quoting J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Screw you, I know more about what I was talking about and what I posted than you do. Nice that you think so. Dag, Godfrey and myself all seem to have experienced something that disagrees with you regarding film optimized lenses though. Pentax and the

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/08/07 12:45 PM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kodak wants to sell its film line, not shut it down. I suspect that if they sell it, the film unit will outlast Kodak proper. I understand that Fuji has been instigating return to film (paraphrasing) campaign for quite some time. Not

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