Actually the 4/3 system uses a much smaller sensor than the
Pentax/Sony/Nikon APS-C equivalent sensor cameras use. It's the
standard promulgated by Kodak/Olympus/Panasonic/Leica. To get the
equivalent AOV in 35mm terms you multiply focal length by 2 not just by
1.5, and the sensor is a 5:4
I hope it's not the beer you owe me...
Norm
Digital Image Studio wrote:
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ROB! Where's your sense of humour mate?
If you just saw what I was covered in you'd understand :-(
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Thanks for this - very good - sent on to 5 already
Rod
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Totally OT!
But if you want to know what makes the cursor move around on your
screen, follow this link. Once the image has loaded,
Actually, I just had my Diet Smith Enterprises Mark X Space Coupe
retrofitted with a deep space hyperdrive.
Cotty wrote:
On 9/5/07, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
After warp 5, Scotty will report; she's tearing herself apart
Captain!!
Actually Federation starships don't use
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As far as the news is concerned, I don't quite understand how Pentax
mgmt. thinks this will block a takeover bid. Hoya simply has to tender
an offer and it will likely go to a vote.
I'll preface this by saying that I know little about the corporate world.
There were reports that Pentax
Me earlier:
There were reports that Pentax management would attempt to counter
Hoya's offer, and were talking to sources of finance about this. Was
this to buy up the Pentax shares held by Sparx and Fidelity, or to buy
up Pentax shares on the open market? If so, selling their Tokyo HQ could
be a
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:45:24PM -0700, Brendan
MacRae wrote:
A full frame DSLR would sell in huge numbers vs. a
MF
digicam anyday...even if it were a piece of crap.
That doesn't seem to be true. While the Canon 5D is
selling
reasonably
On 10/05/07, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Me earlier:
There were reports that Pentax management would attempt to counter
Hoya's offer, and were talking to sources of finance about this. Was
this to buy up the Pentax shares held by Sparx and Fidelity, or to buy
up Pentax shares on
In a message dated 5/9/2007 5:55:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
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Is selling their valuable Tokyo real estate a way of making Pentax a
less desirable target for aquisition?
Joe
===
I don't know how corporate stuff works, but I would think it is to cut out
On May 9, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 10/05/07, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a PESO...
http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=131
Could make a magazine cover or a poster, pleasing to the eye and very
well executed.
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hmmm. Got an art show going
Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
Magnum, PI, Epsiode LA II an Auto 110 with winder
Used when Sellek and Dana Dellaney are in the car together.
CSI Miami. Only caught like 5 seconds of a rerun whilst channel surfing
but saw a clear Pentax badge on what looked like an *ist D.
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Fair enough. I will amend...I won't by another APS-C
sized sensor camera.
-Brendan
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually the 4/3 system uses a much smaller sensor
than the
Pentax/Sony/Nikon APS-C equivalent sensor cameras
use. It's the
standard promulgated by
Magnum, PI, Epsiode LA II an Auto 110 with winder
Used when Sellek and Dana Dellaney are in the car together.
Sincerely,
Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.brendemuehl.net
http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com
http://evangelicalinteraction.blogspot.com
On May 9, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
I'm a sucker for good road shots this is one. Also like the art
supplies.
Kenneth Waller
Took me a minute to realize what road shot you were talking about, Ken.
That's on GFM, up near the top.
Thanks for the good words.
Doug Brewer
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Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer?
I don't need a conspiracy theory for that, but apparently you're
willing to believe just about any about the US, (and believe every one
of our rivals is pure of motive, or so it seems).
Nah, Chavez is a loose
On May 9, 2007, at 8:34 PM, J wrote:
test
You can't send attachments to the PDML, J.
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Subject: Re: Eatock's POW
That's a great collection of images from truly talentless
photographers, they should stick to their day jobs.
I doubt they were planning on making a living from this stuff :o)
It's a big world, I guess
Brendan MacRae wrote:
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of the
larger
sensor just isn't worth it.
For most people, yes. For most serious
photographers...that may be another story.
PJs, sports guys and, yes, nature pros use 1DmkIIs
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From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Pentax - Selling HQ and Apparently Drops 645D
Yes, and not too long ago it was thought by the majority on this list
that digital was too expensive and no one would ever buy a DSLR.
A few years ago, many of us figured Pentax would
I did not send it as a attachment, but I put in the body of the message..Joe
At 09:14 PM 5/9/07, you wrote:
On May 9, 2007, at 8:34 PM, J wrote:
test
You can't send attachments to the PDML, J.
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Well, it happened again. A photo I edited with Photoshop on both the
pc and mac was rejected. But I tried another photo with Paintshop Pro
on the PC and it was accepted at the gallery for review. This
happened about 20 minutes ago..Puzzled...Joe
P.S. I never have any trouble with my scanned
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I hope it's not the beer you owe me...
Unfortunately for me but fortunately for you no.
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On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:18:02PM -0400, Christian wrote:
Brendan MacRae wrote:
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of the
larger
sensor just isn't worth it.
For most people, yes. For most serious
photographers...that may be
Who still thinks Dana Dellaney is hot? Please raise your hand...
Norm
Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
Magnum, PI, Epsiode LA II an Auto 110 with winder
Used when Sellek and Dana Dellaney are in the car together.
Sincerely,
Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.brendemuehl.net
On May 9, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Norm Baugher wrote:
Who still thinks Dana Dellaney is hot? Please raise your hand...
Norm
yo.
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On May 9, 2007, at 9:26 PM, J wrote:
I did not send it as a attachment, but I put in the body of the
message..Joe
Which just makes it an inline attachment. You can't send graphics
files to the PDML. You can, however, put it somewhere and provide a
link to it.
Doug Brewer
On 10/05/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A few years ago, many of us figured Pentax would never put a DSLR on the
market.
Their first DSLR was getting painfully overdue, if they hadn't they
would have been dead Canada Geese long before this. The 645D is not
necessary for their
At 07:22 AM 10/05/2007, Mark Roberts wrote:
Then everyone drives home to be ready for work again on Monday morning
:)
Not me. I have 3 more weeks of playing tourist.
Wooo Hooo
Cheers,
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I tell people that numerous times a day...
Norm
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snip You can, however, put it somewhere and provide a
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Well, of course. Canon makes and sells more cameras
than any other DSLR maker. They have lots of choices
to compete with the extra cost of the 5D.
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of the
larger
sensor just isn't worth it.
For most people, yes. For most serious
I think you'll find that the 4/3rds system uses a 4:3 sensor, not a 5:4
sensor. Hence the name.
While an interesting idea, it solves a problem that doesn't exist
(excessive cost of larger sensors) and never delivered on its other
promise (smaller lenses, which Pentax has cornered the market
Fernando,
I have one of these and I consider it to be excellent - It has a very good
battery life (important with 2gig cards) and is very fast.
It is not a rebranded anything - it is a USA design from this company
http://www.hypershop.com/shop/index.php?cPath=27
and
20mb/second from a fast CF card which is awesome - that is saving 2gig in 2
minutes - sadly it does not use this DMA function on SD cards but it still
does these in about 7 minutes for a 2gig card and then shuts down so you can
leave it in your pocket saving and grab the card when you need it.
On 10/05/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a photo I've been debating adding to my portfolio for a long time.
It's not a knock-your-socks-off kind of image, but I find it appealing
nevertheless. I'm considering using it in a collection of greeting cards...
going with my Unnoticed
--- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brendan MacRae wrote:
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of
the
larger
sensor just isn't worth it.
For most people, yes. For most serious
photographers...that may be another story.
William Robb wrote:
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cripples.
Cripples are a tougher target. ;-)
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At 10:11 AM 10/05/2007, Bob W wrote:
Well, of course. Canon makes and sells more cameras
than any other DSLR maker. They have lots of choices
to compete with the extra cost of the 5D.
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of the
larger
sensor just isn't worth it.
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:18:02PM -0400, Christian
wrote:
Brendan MacRae wrote:
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For most people, the (significant) extra cost
of the
larger
sensor just isn't worth it.
For most
I'll buy it. Then the K10D will be my backup and my *istD will go on
ebay -- or to one of my children. It's the cycle.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It was never indicated that the K1D would be full
frame. It will merely be an upgrade
Working in the ad biz, I've seen the full results of shoots from top
pros. Believe me, they include plenty of clunkers. Very little
editing is done before the goods are delivered. Why? It's part and
parcel of getting your money's worth. When you pay 50 grand for a
two day shoot, you want
This thought may have been offered as I've only looked at a few of
these posts. It may be that Pentax is taking the same route as many
have and that's selling certain assets to generate cash in order to
control more of their stock, thereby hoping to fend off a hostile buy
out, in this case, by
Nah. The tradeoff isn't big enough Bottom line counts for more.
On May 9, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
For most people, yes. For most serious
photographers...that may be another story.
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Perhaps. But more importantly, it's a way of increasing cash on hand.
They probably intend to buy back as many shares as possible. That
will negate the influence of any shareholders who might want to force
their hand.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Me earlier:
Well, that is a logical way of looking at it. I
suppose I could go that route, too.
But man, they would really have to hit one out of the
park on the K10D mkII for me to get excited.
-Brendan
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll buy it. Then the K10D will be my backup and my
*istD
--- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, of course. Canon makes and sells more
cameras
than any other DSLR maker. They have lots of
choices
to compete with the extra cost of the 5D.
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of
the
larger
sensor just isn't worth
Then get ready to open you wallet to the tune of 5K or so. And you
may not be able to see a difference in your results.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
Fair enough. I will amend...I won't by another APS-C
sized sensor camera.
-Brendan
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL
I'm going on vacation on Friday (woohoo) and won't be back until the
next weekend. Looks like we're riding the Great Pumpkin to Fontana Dam,
NC. If anyone's in the area, lemme know and I'll try to make some photo
time.
I'll be unsubbing either late tomorrow night or early Friday morning. I
Only those whose vision was severely limited.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 9:19 PM, William Robb wrote:
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From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Pentax - Selling HQ and Apparently Drops 645D
Yes, and not too long ago it was thought by the majority on this list
that digital was
She was @ one time. Haven't seen her recently.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Procrastinator's Pentax Sighting
Who still thinks Dana Dellaney is hot? Please raise your hand...
Norm
Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
Magnum, PI,
I agree. The 645D isn't necessary. I think it was a trial balloon.
Pentax will do much better if they focus on the APS-C DSLR market.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 10/05/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A few years ago, many of us figured Pentax
Yep. Full frame, which is a bit of misnomer, isn't the pot at the
end of the rainbow.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Christian wrote:
Brendan MacRae wrote:
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of the
larger
sensor just isn't worth it.
I have been near pros, but I don't want a full frame (misnomer
alert) camera.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 10:51 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
--- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brendan MacRae wrote:
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of
HAR!
On May 9, 2007, at 10:11 PM, Bob W wrote:
Well, of course. Canon makes and sells more cameras
than any other DSLR maker. They have lots of choices
to compete with the extra cost of the 5D.
For most people, the (significant) extra cost of the
larger
sensor just isn't worth it.
For
Sounds like a normal proposition, you pay my time you get all that I take in
that time frame, you do the editing.
I was thinking more along the lines of someone shooting without being hired
by a specific client.
I did state potential client.
Kenneth Waller
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From:
I don't like any government, but unfortunately ours is better than most.
William Robb wrote:
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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: OT: rootbeer?
I don't need a conspiracy theory for that, but apparently you're
willing to believe just about any about the US,
Yes.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
This thought may have been offered as I've only looked at a few of
these posts. It may be that Pentax is taking the same route as many
have and that's selling certain assets to generate cash in order to
control more of their stock,
On May 9, 2007, at 11:20 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
I'm going on vacation on Friday (woohoo) and won't be back until the
next weekend. Looks like we're riding the Great Pumpkin to Fontana
Dam,
NC. If anyone's in the area, lemme know and I'll try to make some
photo
time.
I'll be
She roomed a floor below a friend of mine at UConn. Long before she was
famous. My friend wasn't impressed at the time...
Norm Baugher wrote:
Who still thinks Dana Dellaney is hot? Please raise your hand...
Norm
Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:
Magnum, PI, Epsiode LA II an Auto 110 with
P. J. Alling wrote:
I don't like any government, but unfortunately ours is better than most.
I love you, Pete.
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On 10/05/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep. Full frame, which is a bit of misnomer, isn't the pot at the
end of the rainbow.
It is now, they miss the boat on any flywheel effect of the 645 is
they don't deliver it now. So their only option will be to offer
k-mount bodies with
Working at it day in day out, is far different from doing it as a hobby.
If you have an off day, you still have to deliver the product to your
customer. As much as you may regret that it is not better, the only
thing that really counts is that the customer is happy. Folks don't want
to believe
On 10/05/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't like any government, but unfortunately ours is better than most.
A smart arse would reply: than most what?
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Doug Brewer wrote:
On May 9, 2007, at 11:20 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
I'm going on vacation on Friday (woohoo) and won't be back until the
next weekend. Looks like we're riding the Great Pumpkin to Fontana
Dam,
NC. If anyone's in the area, lemme know and I'll try to make some
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then get ready to open you wallet to the tune of 5K
or so.
If I must, I must! But, I would think it would be
closer to 3K...but who knows? Canon's are going to be
cheaper, it's true.
And you
may not be able to see a difference in your results.
The latest sensors seem to have a 17x13.5mm size as opposed to 18x13.5
which is closer to 5:4 than 4:3.
Adam Maas wrote:
I think you'll find that the 4/3rds system uses a 4:3 sensor, not a 5:4
sensor. Hence the name.
While an interesting idea, it solves a problem that doesn't exist
That's true, they tend to fight back.
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William Robb wrote:
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from under
cripples.
Cripples are a tougher target. ;-)
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Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 10/05/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't like any government, but unfortunately ours is better than most.
A smart arse would reply: than most what?
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On 10/05/07, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I must, I must! But, I would think it would be
closer to 3K...but who knows? Canon's are going to be
cheaper, it's true.
I think you are closer to the mark but the question is who would have
pulled $10k+ out of their wallet for the 645D?
In a message dated 5/9/2007 8:28:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This thought may have been offered as I've only looked at a few of
these posts. It may be that Pentax is taking the same route as many
have and that's selling certain assets to generate cash in order to
--- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/05/07, Brendan MacRae
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I must, I must! But, I would think it would be
closer to 3K...but who knows? Canon's are going to
be
cheaper, it's true.
I think you are closer to the mark but the question
is
In a message dated 5/9/2007 6:27:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nah, Chavez is a loose canon. You all will take him out soon enough.
I like picking on your government for the same reason I kick crutches out
from under
cripples.
William Robb
=
Easy
In a message dated 5/9/2007 4:23:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I bought an in-car charger for mine.
Kenneth Waller
I should.
The X-Drive probably lasts 3-4 days when being used, but that is one thing I
AM paranoid about, fully charged batteries
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From: John Francis
Subject: Re: Pentax - Selling HQ and Apparently Drops 645D
I guess we poor Pentax users can't be serious photographers, either.
And all the time I thought it was the photographer, not the gear ...
Unfortunately, it's the gear, or performance
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=
Easy targets?
One does what one can with the tools available.
I can only hit the easy ones.
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From: David Savage
Subject: RE: Pentax - Selling HQ and Apparently Drops 645D
Are you related to Ken Rockwell?
That's probably one on the most vicious put-downs/slurs I've come across
in
quite some time.
;-)
If we had a prize for machiavellian
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Subject: Re: Pentax - Selling HQ and Apparently Drops 645D
Only those whose vision was severely limited.
Yeah, that cheap plastic toy turned out to be pretty nice, didn't it?
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In a message dated 5/9/2007 8:28:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
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This thought may have been offered as I've only looked at a few of
these posts. It may be that Pentax is taking the same route as many
have and that's selling certain assets to generate cash in order to
P.S. It could even be someone like Samsung (buyer of building).
Marnie aka Doe
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On 10/05/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, that cheap plastic toy turned out to be pretty nice, didn't it?
Yeah, not bad for how many years delays and development?
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