Re: OT: Another cycling injury :(

On Oct 14, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Peter McIntosh wrote: > Ouch! Having dislocated a shoulder, I'd rather break a collarbone... They checked me for a dislocated shoulder and from what I've heard I am quite glad I didn't do that. > Beware nurofen (or ibruprofen in general) - it's been shown to slow

Re: GESO: SF Fleet Week Air Show (Blue Angels & More)

Did my post not make it to the general list? I've never seen something get no responses. Perhaps there were too many pics in the gallery? I kinda thought they were good... John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto - Original Message - From: "John C

Re: GESO - Country Mouse in the City

Thanks Rick. I appreciate the feedback. I need to perfect Cloud Maker. Really I think I owe alot to Dewitt Jones who writes in OP. He constantly harped on making oneself aware of WHY they wanted to press the shutter release. Then instead of just pressing it, look for how to make those elemen

Re: GESO - Country Mouse in the City

Interesting take... thanks. :-) Tom C. >From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: GESO - Country Mouse in the City >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:04:35 -0700 > >The fact that you spend much of your time and photograph

Re: Q re DA 16-45/4 on Film

Which basically means that for the really wide angle I cannot get away with just one lens (16-45/4). I may have to have both this one and some other lens, such as 20-35/4 or my FAJ 18-35... Thanks. Boris William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Boris Liberman" > Subject: Q

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

Actually, I've got a pretty decent handle on the physics of light, it appears you have little handle on what improving fill factor means in reality (Larger effective sensor sites at a given resolution and sensor size). And yes, bigger IS better. That's exactly why the new sensors have improved

Re: GESO - What the ?

> > You go out of town for three weeks and you never know what your wife's > > going > > to do. I have been usurped by an illegal alien. > > > > http://photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=358448 > > > >HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa >HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaH

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

Not trying to debate. While I want a FF DSLR and I believe they will become the norm for high end offerings, there's a compact P&S Fuji, model the F31fd, 6MP, that goes to Adams's point more or less. The reviews and tests blow away the competitition in it's class and above, image-quality wise:

Re: Photographer Being Sued

From: "P. J. Alling" > I don't belong to any service, when I click on the link below it > takes me to a page with the Docket for the case. You only have to log > in to read the details. This I believe should be open to everyone. > It's a public proceeding, but apparently the public isn't trusted >

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

On 10/14/07, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From my point of view... > > Only so many photons are captured by a sensor element (pixel, if you will) > of a given size and that to a certain efficiency. There is an upper limit. > Further, everything that has a temperature generates noise in

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? >It has in the case of the 40D and A700, the > former matching its FF brethren(5D) for high ISO performance according > to reputable sources (like LL) > > A buddy of mine j

Re: PESO - Evening at the Lake

Hello John, I believe it was Agfa Ultra 50 - a very saturated film. -- Bruce Sunday, October 14, 2007, 8:04:03 AM, you wrote: JS> From: Bruce Dayton >> One of my older shots. >> >> Pentax PZ-1p, F 17-28/3.4-4.5 Fisheye >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0048-21.htm JS> What film? JS>

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

You really don't understand much about the physics of light. You can't get something for nothing. But in a way that's besides the point. Something else you don't get about bigger is always better weather you're talking about film or some other sensor technology, bigger will be better. No matter

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

From: "Bob Blakely" > I assume you believe you have rights. Are they valuable to you? If > someone deprives you of a right, don't you feel harmed in some way > even if what you lost (control over actions on your property) did not > cause any monetary loss? Such a thing should be a cause for a civi

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

P. J. Alling wrote: > The Nikon D300 of course first look on a magazine rack. I read the > article on paper, in a book store, you remember paper don't you? Yeah, I remember paper. I read a few paper mags. I've yet to see one that does equipment reviews even a tenth as good as the major sites(DP

Re: Photographer Being Sued

From: Eactivist > It's not clear if he was on the property when he photographed it. If he > wasn't, then no problem. If someone's property is visible from a public > place > then it wouldn't be trespass and he could photograph it. A public place can be located on private property and vice v

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

From: "P. J. Alling" > Here is a pretty good explanation of commercial gain vs art as seen > by the New York court system. It holds true for most of the US and > probably most of the English speaking world. > > http://tinyurl.com/36rzkn* Had I been the photographer in question, I would have cou

Re: Photographer Being Sued

From: "Bob Blakely" > This can be a fuzzy area. Apparently the photographer was on private > property and the photos were taken of that same private property; > further, it appears that the photographer did not have permission > from the owner(s) to even be there, let alone take photographs. Now,

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

From: "P. J. Alling" > You should care you're a photographer. Besides I didn't post this > god damned thing, I only did a little research to know what the hell > I was talking about. Well, there's your problem then. You're trying to confuse the issue by presenting facts. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

The Nikon D300 of course first look on a magazine rack. I read the article on paper, in a book store, you remember paper don't you? Look simple math, assuming the sensor sites have no spacing between them will tell you that the capture sites are too small already, to be as effective as they hav

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

John Sessoms wrote: > From: Adam Maas > >> This is a very grey area. If your Blazer is parked in a public area >> when the picture was taken, you have no standing to sue. If it was on >> private property, things get murky (unless the photographer was also >> on the same private property, at which

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

No, I don't read that magazine(in fact I can't find anything about such a title on Google), and exactly which body are you referring to (All three have different sensor designs, although the D300 and A700's sensors are related). If you're talking popular photography, they don't say any such thi

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

From: Adam Maas > This is a very grey area. If your Blazer is parked in a public area > when the picture was taken, you have no standing to sue. If it was on > private property, things get murky (unless the photographer was also > on the same private property, at which point the question becomes o

Re: PESO: Lens Neglect

"Superb" lens performance! Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a superb lens that I don't use often enough: the K 135/2.5. > Here's a K10D shot at f2.5/1.500th ISO 100. > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6528958 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@p

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

From: Mark Roberts > Adam Maas wrote: > >> >A fairly large number of commercial buildings are copyrighted in such >> >ways. You can photograph them legally, but you can't sell the images >> >without a property release. > > IIRC, you can't sell the images for commercial use without a release >

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

I only use that example because I just read it this evening. Not because it was my original source. P. J. Alling wrote: > Did you actually read the current Modern Photograpy review. I'll > paraphrase they found that it had impressive built in anti noise > software. You're mistaking firmware wi

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

Did you actually read the current Modern Photograpy review. I'll paraphrase they found that it had impressive built in anti noise software. You're mistaking firmware with physics. Adam Maas wrote: > I have been paying attention and you obviously haven't. You're talking > about the older 10+MP b

Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Oct 14, 2007, at 2:47 PM, mike wilson wrote: > >>> For effective second curtain sync actuation, all that is required is >>> that the camera send a trigger signal to the flash at most .004 >>> (1/250) second before the second curtain is released for its closing >>> run.

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

Bob Blakely wrote: >>From my point of view... > > Only so many photons are captured by a sensor element (pixel, if you will) > of a given size and that to a certain efficiency. There is an upper limit. > Further, everything that has a temperature generates noise in proportion to > that temperat

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

I have been paying attention and you obviously haven't. You're talking about the older 10+MP bodies (K10D, D2X, D200, D80, D40X, A100) with last-generation CCD or CMOS sensors. The new 10/12MP CMOS sensors introduced in the last month or so ( in the D300, 40D, and A700) have massively improved

Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd

In a message dated 10/14/2007 5:12:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another shot with the K 135/2.5 at the farmer's market this afternoon. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6529425&size=lg == That's sort of amusing. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: PESO: Lens Neglect

Good shot. Godfrey Paul Stenquist wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6528958 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO - Time & Wind II

In a message dated 10/14/2007 5:01:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Another one from Pebble Beach in Half Moon Bay. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/timewind2.htm This one's definitely better than the first, in my opinion. A little bit dark, but o

Re: PESO - Time & Wind II

In a message dated 10/14/2007 5:16:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting composition, nicely rendered. Paul === Thanks, Paul. Marnie aka Doe :-) On Oct 14, 2007, at 7:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Another one from Pebble Beach in Half Moo

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

The Singapore Airline Boeing 777 I flew on to Canada earlier this year, the reverse side of the in-flight TV controller on every seat had a phone with the credit card swipe thingy in the side. Cheers, Dave On 10/15/07, Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Built in payphones? - those are a t

Re: PESO - Time & Wind II

Interesting composition, nicely rendered. Paul On Oct 14, 2007, at 7:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Another one from Pebble Beach in Half Moon Bay. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/timewind2.htm > > Comments welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > >

PESO: Glorious Gourd

Another shot with the K 135/2.5 at the farmer's market this afternoon. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6529425&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follo

Re: PESO - Time & Wind II

> Another one from Pebble Beach in Half Moon Bay. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/timewind2.htm This one's definitely better than the first, in my opinion. A little bit dark, but otherwise I love the texture and composition. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepr

Re: PESO: Lens Neglect

Thanks Marnie. I rarely use that lens, but when I do, I'm always impressed. Paul On Oct 14, 2007, at 7:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/2007 3:13:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have a superb lens that I don't use often enough: the K 135

Re: PESO: Lens Neglect

Only a little :-). Works great in manual mode. Paul On Oct 14, 2007, at 7:04 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Yes it's a lovely lens. It would be even better if it was an A lens... > > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> I have a superb lens that I don't use often enough: the K 135/2.5. >> Here's a K10D shot at f2.

PESO - Time & Wind II

Another one from Pebble Beach in Half Moon Bay. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/timewind2.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ***

Re: PESO: Lens Neglect

In a message dated 10/14/2007 3:13:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a superb lens that I don't use often enough: the K 135/2.5. Here's a K10D shot at f2.5/1.500th ISO 100. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6528958 === Very pretty. Marnie aka D

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

Well, like I said I was never sure where to focus my interest. Thanks for the input, Ken. Marnie aka Doe :-) Nice exposure & subject matter, but there's too much in the image. My eyes wander trying to focus on something but I'm pulled away to another feature. Isolate & sim

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/timewind.htm I really like it except for the top left corner. I think in this situation, it would have been better to have everything on one plane. Having been to Pebble Beach myself, I can sure understand what you mean when you say there's too muc

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

In a message dated 10/14/2007 12:25:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beautiful, I love that picture, the texture is great :) rg2 == Thanks! It was rather neat rock. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

In a message dated 10/14/2007 1:09:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Oct 14, 2007, at 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's actually time, wind, and water, but I wanted a shorter title. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/timewind.htm It's a lovely

Re: PESO: Lens Neglect

Yes it's a lovely lens. It would be even better if it was an A lens... Paul Stenquist wrote: > I have a superb lens that I don't use often enough: the K 135/2.5. > Here's a K10D shot at f2.5/1.500th ISO 100. > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6528958 > > > -- Remember, it’s pillage

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

I'm sorry, haven't you been paying attention. Every review I've read that doesn't gloss over high ISO performance mentions the loss of detail at high ISO in the 10+ mp bodies. Pentax simply doesn't offer 3200 ISO on the K10D, makes you wonder why. Well maybe you don't and I don't but for differ

Re: The more things change...

Score... George Sinos wrote: > To bring this around to Pentax... > > I'd estimate the ages of the women were from late twenties to early > thirties. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the lin

Re: PESO: Lens Neglect

Paul Stenquist wrote: > I have a superb lens that I don't use often enough: the K 135/2.5. > Here's a K10D shot at f2.5/1.500th ISO 100. > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6528958 > > Lovely shot! To the list: I just got a new, 4th generation 20" iMac, 2.0 Ghz. The color on this machi

Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)

On Oct 14, 2007, at 2:47 PM, mike wilson wrote: >> For effective second curtain sync actuation, all that is required is >> that the camera send a trigger signal to the flash at most .004 >> (1/250) second before the second curtain is released for its closing >> run. That's the typical longest ele

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

P. J. Alling wrote: > What you need, and what Pentax needs to do, are two different things. > Try this on for size "If I could get that kind of performance without > SR, I wouldn't need SR." You probably won't acknowledge that that > statement makes as much sense as your argument. Yet that's con

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

On 14/10/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >But what about the mutants? Oh the PDML will survive ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

Cotty wrote: > On 14/10/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >>I'd be happy to see a Pentax FF body at any price. > > > They put a modern 36X24 CMOS into the MZ-D and I will sell all my Canon > gear on the spot. > > > > ***

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/2007 10:23:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Most consumer wireless/cell phone/home entertainment stuff is easily > disrupted because a) it is very low power, b) it has very cheap and > insensitive, low gain ant

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

Tom C wrote: > Overall I agree with what Peter is saying (and have always felt this way > since the introduction of the *ist D)... that is, when FF sensors become > economical enough to be mainstream, Pentax must make a FF body or be > regarded as a 2nd rate toy camera manufacturer. The Hyunda

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

Bill Owens wrote: > Several years ago, early 90's, I was working at a small airport and got to > know quite a few pilots on a first name basis. One of them once told me > that while on an instrument approach into PIT, someone turned on a cell > phone and really interfered with the ILS. Granted th

PESO: Lens Neglect

I have a superb lens that I don't use often enough: the K 135/2.5. Here's a K10D shot at f2.5/1.500th ISO 100. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6528958 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visi

Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > For effective second curtain sync actuation, all that is required is > that the camera send a trigger signal to the flash at most .004 > (1/250) second before the second curtain is released for its closing > run. That's the typical longest electronic flash duration

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

Built in payphones? - those are a thing of the past, try and find one on a newer plane... Norm David Savage wrote: > What? Terrorists? > > Airliners are concerned about the possibility of radio/navigation > equipment interference, hence the shielding reference. > > That's why every seat on most m

Re: The more things change...

That sorta hits the nail on the head! Walt On 10/14/07, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've mentioned that I teach basic photography classes at the local > community college. > > I've been teaching these classes for several years. In a class of a > dozen people there will be eight to

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

In other words, not likely. And that's okay with me. Paul On Oct 14, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Adam Maas wrote: > Note the D3 is the camera whose performance I'm quoting at the end > of my > previous post. Its performance is incredible, but also far more than I > have any actual need for, especially wi

Re: GESO - Country Mouse in the City

No, no. It's really easy, give in to the dark side... Rick Womer wrote: > Tom, this is a beautiful and creative gallery. It is > hard not to hate you. > > Rick > > --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> The country mouse went back downtown this afternoon >> after work. Got dark, >> got

Re: GESO - Country Mouse in the City

Tom, this is a beautiful and creative gallery. It is hard not to hate you. Rick --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The country mouse went back downtown this afternoon > after work. Got dark, > got turned around, got lost, frightening people, got > scared, found the car > finally. > > ht

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

On 14/10/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'd be happy to see a Pentax FF body at any price. They put a modern 36X24 CMOS into the MZ-D and I will sell all my Canon gear on the spot. **sigh*** -- Cheers, Cotty

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

On Oct 14, 2007, at 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's actually time, wind, and water, but I wanted a shorter title. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/timewind.htm It's a lovely study. The rendering is a little too flat to my eye, could use just a hint more contrast to make

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

>From my point of view... Only so many photons are captured by a sensor element (pixel, if you will) of a given size and that to a certain efficiency. There is an upper limit. Further, everything that has a temperature generates noise in proportion to that temperature. There is a lower limit.

The more things change...

I've mentioned that I teach basic photography classes at the local community college. I've been teaching these classes for several years. In a class of a dozen people there will be eight to ten women in their late twenties to early fifties. Usually they are moms and the family historians. The re

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

Beautiful, I love that picture, the texture is great :) rg2 On 10/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup, think that is what it is. > > Thanks, Jack. > > Marnie :-) > > === > > "Sandstone Lace". (looks like sandstone anyway) ;) > The affects of time and the elemen

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

Nice exposure & subject matter, but there's too much in the image. My eyes wander trying to focus on something but I'm pulled away to another feature. Isolate & simplify. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO - Time & Wind

Re: Re: Bodie Ghosts II (re-worked)

After trying it, I think I now agree with you. Regards, Bob... "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection." -Jean Luc Godard - Original Message - From: "Roman Melihhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sen

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

Overall I agree with what Peter is saying (and have always felt this way since the introduction of the *ist D)... that is, when FF sensors become economical enough to be mainstream, Pentax must make a FF body or be regarded as a 2nd rate toy camera manufacturer. The Hyundai or Kia of the camer

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

Different spin than I was looking at. I'm not saying weather Pentax can succeed or not. I'm just stating what they have to do. Personal preferences aside. I agree that Pentax is faced with a dilemma, the same one that faced them when the MZ-S/MZ-D was going to be introduced. Pentax thought that

RE: OT - of interest to PDA users...

Several years ago, early 90's, I was working at a small airport and got to know quite a few pilots on a first name basis. One of them once told me that while on an instrument approach into PIT, someone turned on a cell phone and really interfered with the ILS. Granted this was early 90's and the

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

Yup, think that is what it is. Thanks, Jack. Marnie :-) === "Sandstone Lace". (looks like sandstone anyway) ;) The affects of time and the elements are well depicted here. Well chosen. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In my last photography class we went up to Half Moon

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

In a message dated 10/14/2007 11:09:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last time I looked into this in depth (caveat: it's been a few years so my info may be out of date), the _FAA_ had no problems with people using cell phones on planes but the _FCC_ did. The conce

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But the reason for not using it during a flight is what you said, they are > afraid wireless will mess with their electronics. I wonder about the modern > aircraft thing too, but I'd rather be safe than sorry too. The last time I looked into this in depth (caveat:

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

P. J. Alling wrote: Sony has been slow up to now because they are feeling things out, they are probably still integrating the K/M engineers and project managers into Sony's culture. Sony sales managers insist on the cameras being profitable, and they are milking the old K/M system as much as possi

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

Well bravery is a relative thing, but most heroes will tell you that they're just doing what had to be done. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/14/2007 10:15:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > They had > suddenly rules changed, so the passenger behavior

Re: PESO - Time & Wind

"Sandstone Lace". (looks like sandstone anyway) ;) The affects of time and the elements are well depicted here. Well chosen. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In my last photography class we went up to Half Moon Bay. Already > showed > some other shots from there. > > But we first stopped

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

In a message dated 10/14/2007 10:22:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually that's been independently tested and if the electronics of the Airplane are properly shielded then Cell phones should have little or no effect. Have you ever looked at the prices they charge

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

In a message dated 10/14/2007 10:23:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most consumer wireless/cell phone/home entertainment stuff is easily disrupted because a) it is very low power, b) it has very cheap and insensitive, low gain antennae, and c) it ain't all that wel

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

Actually that's been independently tested and if the electronics of the Airplane are properly shielded then Cell phones should have little or no effect. Have you ever looked at the prices they charge per minute on those in flight cell phones? However under most circumstances I'd much rather not

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

In a message dated 10/14/2007 10:15:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They had suddenly rules changed, so the passenger behavior changed. Yeah, they were getting reports from friends and family on their cell phone that everyone on the other planes had die

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

On Oct 14, 2007, at 10:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, maybe. How about 40 people talking on cell phones? > > When I first set up my network, my upstairs neighbor said his > radio was > affected. He took a while to figure it out. I think he may have > been using his > radio on batte

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

Yes, yes, I see the Airlines really care about my well being and want to give me phone service... (What do you mean the limit on my credit card is too low). David Savage wrote: > What? Terrorists? > > Airliners are concerned about the possibility of radio/navigation > equipment interference, henc

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

There's always been a ban on using Cell phones in flight. On 9/11 the crew was no longer enforcing the rules and the hijackers made two tactical mistakes. The first was that without the crew to enforce the rules, people used their cell phones because they could. The second was that the hijacker

Re: PESO 2007 - 42e - GDG

>> http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/42e.htm Thanks for all your thoughts and compliments on this one! From: Michael Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yiou are going to egret this, Godders... LOL! There's always one punster in the ranks... ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PD

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

What you need, and what Pentax needs to do, are two different things. Try this on for size "If I could get that kind of performance without SR, I wouldn't need SR." You probably won't acknowledge that that statement makes as much sense as your argument. Yet that's converse of your argument, and

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

In a message dated 10/14/2007 9:51:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "And because they want to assert their control over the passengers to keep order on the plane. If they build aircraft whose navigation and communications equipment are so fragile that a hand-held de

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

"...there is a pay phone at every seat..." And you wonder why they don't want you using your cel-phone? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

My job for several years of working at NASA/JPL was supporting the operation of our RADAR imaging equipment. I was given the opportunity to fly with the datatake missions frequently. The jet we used was an old Convair 990 passenger plane, basically a standard airliner which the interior had

PESO - Time & Wind

In my last photography class we went up to Half Moon Bay. Already showed some other shots from there. But we first stopped at Pebble Beach (Half Moon's Pebble Beach). Lots of water and wind and time worn rock. Very interesting. Almost too interesting. I never really liked any of the shots I

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

In a message dated 10/14/2007 9:12:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes i did know that. But that doesn't change the reason why airlines don't allow mobile phone usage in flight. I don't know if it's a valid reason on modern aircraft, but it's better to be safe than so

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

On 14/10/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >What? Terrorists? > >Airliners are concerned about the possibility of radio/navigation >equipment interference, hence the shielding reference. > >That's why every seat on most modern aircraft have built in payphones. The point here is that d

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Yes i did know that. But that doesn't change the reason why airlines don't allow mobile phone usage in flight. I don't know if it's a valid reason on modern aircraft, but it's better to be safe than sorry IMO. Cheers, Dave. On 10/14/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that the situ

Re: Another K10D observation

John, I don't usually notice the battery at half. I shot 5-6 in continuous mode and noticed the battery go to half, and then comeback up to full...although not for many more shots. You really have to be aware. I don't have the battery grip. I carry a spare. Regards, Bob S. On 10/14/07, John Sesso

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

Note that the situation with Flight 93 involved inbound calls to passenger cellphones, which the built-in payphones would be useless for. -Adam David Savage wrote: > What? Terrorists? > > Airliners are concerned about the possibility of radio/navigation > equipment interference, hence the shie

Re: OT - of interest to PDA users...

What? Terrorists? Airliners are concerned about the possibility of radio/navigation equipment interference, hence the shielding reference. That's why every seat on most modern aircraft have built in payphones. Cheers, Dave On 10/14/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it were not for c

Re: OT: Another cycling injury :(

I understand that casts are pretty much a no-no these days except for bones that have a lot bending pressure on them. Interesting how much medical knowledge turns out to be a fad that changes over time. David Mann wrote: > On Oct 14, 2007, at 3:21 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > >> Dave, >> Sorry t

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