Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 26, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: ... snippage... It is therefore my conclusion that I should divest (is it the right term as opposed to invest?) myself of most of my gear and keep the investment to the absolute minimum as least as long as the times are a-changing...

Re: Large List of For Sale Items, some really good stuff

2010-09-27 Thread John Mustarde
$30 or free with any purchase over $150 Prices are mostly negotiable. If interested, send me a private email. on, 27 Sep 2010 11:18:12 +0800, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:09 AM, John Mustarde jmusta...@suddenlink.net wrote: Albinar 2x Macro Focusing TC - no A contacts. Almost as

Re: Quake: 3 weeks later

2010-09-27 Thread David Mann
On Sep 26, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Bob W wrote: Happy birthday! Glad to hear things are settling down again. Surprised you're still having aftershocks, but what do I know? Enjoy your time off! I did enjoy it. Took the new road bike on a nice loop over the hill to the harbour, around a few bays

Re: Quake: 3 weeks later

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm glad to hear you can relax again. I won't say things are back to normal. I suspect a new normal will settle in over time. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:21 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: On Sep 26, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Bob W wrote: Happy birthday!  Glad to hear things are settling

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's a great shot. I find the noise in the elbow area a bit distracting but that's a question of taste. A real keeper. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:  Thank  you, Larry. The main reason for ISO 800 at 1/1600 was the fact that my flash had started

PESO - Sunday Sunrise

2010-09-27 Thread frank theriault
I told you when I posted yesterday's PESO that the sunrise over Lake Ontario wasn't spectacular (or at least not as much as I'd hoped for) as there was a low-lying layer of clouds at the horizon. Even though one couldn't see the sun, it was still interesting, I think. Not as spectacular as some,

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It's a great shot.  I find the noise in the elbow area a bit distracting but that's a question of taste.  A real keeper. Hadn't even noticed the noise until you mentioned it. Terrific shot! cheers, frank --

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:  Hi all, Went to a local BBQ festival yesterday and took some snapshots.  I saw this young lady standing in line at one of the booths and was thought I'd try my hand at street portraiture along the lines of Danny

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sorry. I'll be more discreet in the future. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:06 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It's a great shot.  I find the noise in the elbow area a bit distracting but that's a

Re: PESO - Jeffery

2010-09-27 Thread Jeffery Smith
I meant 3:2. Oops. I generally crop in PS as 12 high and 8 wide if it seems to work for a frame. The 10x8 aspect seems too crowded for me. Jeffery On Sep 26, 2010, at 9:57 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith I used 35mm film for so long, 4:3 just got to be normal for me. 35mm

Re: PESO - Sunday Sunrise

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
Nevertheless quite enjoyable. Tom C On Sep 27, 2010 7:03 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I told you when I posted yesterday's PESO that the sunrise over Lake Ontario wasn't spectacular (or at least not as much as I'd hoped for) as there was a low-lying layer of clouds at

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
What irks me and makes me NOT so excited about any new Pentax offering is that the K10D and K20D were released to the public with some, IMO, serious flaws. Flaws so serious that my K20D is a brick on the shelf and that I would have a hard time, as others mentioned, consider giving it, much less

Re: Quake: 3 weeks later

2010-09-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Glad to hear you are doing well under the circumstances. Thanks for updating us. Dan On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 4:21 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: On Sep 26, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Bob W wrote: Happy birthday!  Glad to hear things are settling down again. Surprised you're still

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very attractive and effective portrait! On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:18 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:  Hi all, Went to a local BBQ festival yesterday and took some snapshots.  I saw this young lady

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A wonderful action portrait, with lots of personality. Dan On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:  Another shot captured at the local BBQ festival - this one of a gentleman enjoying the show being put on by a local bluegrass-fusion band called Bawn in the

Re: PESO - Sunday Sunrise

2010-09-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Quite nice, Frank. Dan On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:03 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I told you when I posted yesterday's PESO that the sunrise over Lake Ontario wasn't spectacular (or at least not as much as I'd hoped for) as there was a low-lying layer of clouds at the

GESO - PDMLers Downunder

2010-09-27 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all Igor Roshchin and his wife Jane have been in Sydney for the past week. The weather has been pretty good so we were able to show them a bit of the city and the nearby Blue Mountains. Here's a small GESO. Anthony has already posted a few shots and I'm sure Rob will post some as well:

Re: PESO - Sunday Sunrise

2010-09-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:03 -0400, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I told you when I posted yesterday's PESO that the sunrise over Lake Ontario wasn't spectacular (or at least not as much as I'd hoped for) as there was a low-lying layer of clouds at the horizon. Even though one

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 3:02 PM, Tom C wrote: What irks me and makes me NOT so excited about any new Pentax offering is that the K10D and K20D were released to the public with some, IMO, serious flaws. Flaws so serious that my K20D is a brick on the shelf and that I would have a hard time, as others

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:53 -0500, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Went to a local BBQ festival yesterday and took some snapshots. I saw this young lady standing in line at one of the booths and was thought I'd try my hand at street portraiture along the lines of Danny

The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Like I wrote to Tom on the other thread, Galia is complaining a bit about AF of her K10D. I could, in principle, proceed towards spending our time together whereas I'd be telling her about the way AF is supposed to be used, etc. This can prove beneficial to her to some extent. The

The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Like I wrote to Tom on the other thread, Galia is complaining a bit about AF of her K10D. I could, in principle, proceed towards spending our time together whereas I'd be telling her about the way AF is supposed to be used, etc. This can prove beneficial to her to some extent. The

Re: Tamron Adaptall-2 no longer in A mode

2010-09-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 26, 2010, at 22:03, John Sessoms wrote: I've got a couple of lenses that occasionally slip out of the 'A' position, and I get that -- until I push the button on the lens and lock it back into the 'A position. I don't know if dismounting/mounting the adaptall to the lens would

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread Rick Womer
I like it, but after your description of her I'd like to see it in color. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 9/26/10, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Alabaster Coal To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
And she's how old? On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/27/2010 3:02 PM, Tom C wrote: What irks me and makes me NOT so excited about any new Pentax offering is that the K10D and K20D were released to the public with some, IMO, serious flaws.  Flaws so

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Thibouille
Hehe, prepare to be surprised ;) 2010/9/27 Tom C caka...@gmail.com: And she's how old? -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 3:47 PM, Tom C wrote: And she's how old? She'll turn 9 in October. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Thibouille
I can swearthat when set up properly (had to switch the camera to English 'cos really, German isn't my cup of tea) there's an option called (more or less) 'Long exposure NR'. That set to OFF and the 3 minutes B pose was done without DFS. Before I set that option, and long exposure was followed by

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 3:50 PM, Thibouille wrote: Hehe, prepare to be surprised ;) Well, to further the surprise :-). She is shooting with Pentax since age 6. She started with Optio W30 and then a year ago graduated or better yet forcefully inherited her father's K10D with three lenses. She is also

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Jeffery Smith
I had problems with the Contax G2 for a month or so, and finally got it so to speak. If there ARE actually problems with the K10D, it would be nice to still be able to use the lenses. I am very fond of the K-x, to the point that I usually pick it up instead of the heavier K-7. The Panasonic GF1

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 3:54 PM, Thibouille wrote: I can swearthat when set up properly (had to switch the camera to English 'cos really, German isn't my cup of tea) there's an option called (more or less) 'Long exposure NR'. That set to OFF and the 3 minutes B pose was done without DFS. Indeed, if this

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 3:54 PM, Thibouille wrote: I can swearthat when set up properly (had to switch the camera to English 'cos really, German isn't my cup of tea) there's an option called (more or less) 'Long exposure NR'. That set to OFF and the 3 minutes B pose was done without DFS. Indeed, if this

Re: 645D to be marketed Worldwide in December

2010-09-27 Thread Thibouille
I have friend who's deeply into Canon (40D, 5D and L glass) and he's looking at 645D like he wanted to eat it. If all goes well, 645D will be his end of the year. Not bad from Pentax, attracting Canon guys :) 2010/9/23 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: I'm surprised nobody's posted this yet:

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
That's what I thought. So if a 9-year old is having problems with an aspect of a Pentax system not working correctly, assuming lack of focus is not due to some operator error, why was not Pentax not aware of and/or remedy the problem prior to release? The answer is obvious. First sales trumped

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Thibouille
But then Boris, did you experienced the same problems? It'd be useful to answer that question. 2010/9/27 Tom C caka...@gmail.com: That's what I thought. So if a 9-year old is having problems with an aspect of a Pentax system not working correctly, assuming lack of focus is not due to some

Mirrorless

2010-09-27 Thread Thibouille
Being for you Galia or for you, I think I mentionned in my Photokina observations thread that EPL1 had a BIG problem with the screen. It really is that bad. Did you try other mirrorless? I think some are at least better. I know I wouldn't ever buy such a bad camera. Just trying to help you with

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 3:58 PM, Tom C wrote: So if a 9-year old is having problems with an aspect of a Pentax system not working correctly, assuming lack of focus is not due to some operator error, why was not Pentax not aware of and/or remedy the problem prior to release? I should point out that she is

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Thibouille
2010/9/27 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: P.S. You're to blame, Thibs. When we were in that Automotive Museum in Brussels I let her try my K10D with FA 43 attached. She said she liked it. The rest is herstory ;-). I'm happy if I'm responsible for this :) -- Thibault Massart aka

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 4:00 PM, Thibouille wrote: But then Boris, did you experienced the same problems? It'd be useful to answer that question. Indeed. I haven't used K10D for quite a while now... I will give it a run. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Mirrorless

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 4:02 PM, Thibouille wrote: Being for you Galia or for you, I think I mentionned in my Photokina observations thread that EPL1 had a BIG problem with the screen. It really is that bad. Did you try other mirrorless? I think some are at least better. I know I wouldn't ever buy such a

Re: PESO - Sunday Sunrise

2010-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
This is nice, Frank. Seeing another sunrise is always a good thing. ;) Jack --- On Mon, 9/27/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Sunday Sunrise To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Monday, September

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
If I had to advice someone how to start a serious outfit from scratch today, I'd suggest the GH2 with a couple lenses. Then you get a modern system with the best possible balance between compactness, electronic viewfinder, AF, metering and lens/image quality. If that solution is too expensive,

GESO: John Basilone Parade

2010-09-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nestled between the town in which I work and the township in which we live is the little Borough of Raritan, NJ, where the North Branch, the South Branch and the Raritan Power Canal merge to form the Old Raritan River. It is distinguished today mostly as the home of Ortho Pharmaceuticals, one of

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread William Robb
-- From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot Hi! Like I wrote to Tom on the other thread, Galia is

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:39, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Like I wrote to Tom on the other thread, Galia is complaining a bit about AF of her K10D. I could, in principle, proceed towards spending our time together whereas I'd be telling her about the way AF is supposed to be used, etc. This

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 4:05 PM, William Robb wrote: The obvious answer would be the K7. It's AF and exposure are greatly improved, and you already have a lens kit to go along with it. It's also smaller and hopefully lighter than the K10. Or drop a bunch of money on a different brand that will also show

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
Assume nothing from my typo; in seems. Furthest thing from my mind...really. ;) Jack --- On Sun, 9/26/10, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Photokina observations... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, September 26,

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread William Robb
-- From: Tom C Subject: Re: Photokina observations... What irks me and makes me NOT so excited about any new Pentax offering is that the K10D and K20D were released to the public with some, IMO, serious flaws. Flaws so serious that my K20D is a

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt, Nice catch. The guy seems to have his hospital bracelet still on! And congrats on being in the right place at the right time for a paid gig. I looked at some of your other pictures in flicker and was impressed. You got some characters there to pose for you. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Sep 27,

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread P N Stenquist
I suggest a K-5 for you, Boris. Then pass along your K-7 to Galia. Paul On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 9/27/2010 4:05 PM, William Robb wrote: The obvious answer would be the K7. It's AF and exposure are greatly improved, and you already have a lens kit to go along with

OT: The Man who saved the world

2010-09-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
27 years ago today, Petrov saved the world September 26, 2010 Written by Eliezer_Yudkowsky Today is September 26th, Petrov Day, celebrated to honor the deed of Stanislav Yevgrafovich Petrov on September 26th, 1983. Wherever you are, whatever you’re doing, take a minute to not destroy the world.

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 4:22 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: Like William Robb said, the K7 is a natural direction to go. Much-improved AF is one of the benefits compared to the K10D. It is also a little bit smaller and much quicker to respond (hard to describe, but you feel it when you use it). Control

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 4:25 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: I suggest a K-5 for you, Boris. Then pass along your K-7 to Galia. Paul I cannot afford buying a flagship from Pentax every single year, Paul. For that to happen I may have to sell a good chunk of my glass, e.g. my three FA limited lenses. I am also

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread William Robb
-- From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot On 9/27/2010 4:05 PM, William Robb wrote: The obvious answer would be the K7. It's AF and exposure are greatly improved, and you already have a lens kit

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread William Robb
-- From: Tom C Subject: Re: Photokina observations... That's what I thought. So if a 9-year old is having problems with an aspect of a Pentax system not working correctly, assuming lack of focus is not due to some operator error, why was not

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread William Robb
-- From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot On 9/27/2010 4:25 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: I suggest a K-5 for you, Boris. Then pass along your K-7 to Galia. Paul I cannot afford buying a flagship

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
I realize all that. The difference is that I (capital I) spent my money on Pentax (capital Pentax). Having bought an *istD (which I was overall happy with), an *ist DS (not), a K20D (not), and a K7 (happy), which is roughly $4,250 + several new lenses. I'm not sure that was the best spent

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 4:23 PM, William Robb wrote: I read PentaxForums from time to time. You want to see a more snivelling bunch of airheads than them, you'd have to put 2000 little kids in a room with a big bowl of candy, and take the bowl away before any of them get to it. They whine because the K-x

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris, If the camera is for Galia, I'd stick with Pentax - maybe a K-X? That way she can share lenses with dad. If the camera is for Galia (wink, wink, nod, nod) and Boris gets to use it, that's a different matter. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:05 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Wink, wink, nod, nod. K-x is a good idea though... Boris On 9/27/2010 4:38 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, If the camera is for Galia, I'd stick with Pentax - maybe a K-X? That way she can share lenses with dad. If the camera is for Galia (wink, wink, nod, nod) and Boris gets to use it,

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
I couldn't care less whether people like what I say about Pentax or not. Well maybe a little less. :-) My point was I think Pentax has had an interim history of producing some either flawed or lagging products. A statement I'm sure you'd agree with. I especially feel that way in light of the

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Obvioussly, the 645D. Explain this to your wife ;-) The Kx would be great. Smaller and lighter too. If you want her to keep the K10D, maybe teach her to move the AF point around by hand using the 4 way controller. This will slow her down but this would be a good way to learn about planning

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
A person of any age should not 'outgrow' what is a basic operating aspect of a camera. OK, if you want low-light capability and you're finding the camera's not meeting your needs, understandable. In this case, of Boris's daughter and the K10D, we're talking about AF accuracy. Maybe if she's a 9

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, Your post offers a really good perspective on cameras. The bodies depreciate like computers, the lenses not so much (at least for Pentax). Too many folks spend their time reading the latest marketing hype. I always think about St Ansel using a K1000 for 35mm shots. Regards, Bob S. On Mon,

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, Steven. I was slightly put off by the elbow noise at first, too ... but, I didn't want to fiddle around too much and wreck the rest of the shot. So, I broke the will of my perfectionist inner child and let things be for once in my life. I think I'll have a print made of this one

Re: OT: The Man who saved the world

2010-09-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan, He didn't do his job, thank God! Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: 27 years ago today, Petrov saved the world September 26, 2010 Written by Eliezer_Yudkowsky Today is September 26th, Petrov Day, celebrated to honor the deed

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thank you, Frank! I spotted it right away, but managed to convince myself it was the proverbial feature rather than a bug. -- Walt On 9/27/2010 6:06 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote: It's a great shot. I find the

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
BTW, she could always use MF on tricky subjects. I know that's obvious to us but kids don't always think to do that. MF is ther in case AF breaks. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Obvioussly, the 645D.  Explain this to your wife ;-) The Kx would be

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, Dan! I was really happy to come out of my first attempt at street portraiture with something salvageable. It's just enough to make me want to keep trying -- Walt On 9/27/2010 8:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A wonderful action portrait, with lots of personality. Dan On Sun,

Re: OT: The Man who saved the world

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Let's send him a note from the PDML thanking him for his actions. (I'm serious) If he doesn't have internet service (he's poor, right) we could send him something written. It sounds silly but it may make his day to think someone noticed. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Bob Sullivan

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread William Robb
-- From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Photokina observations... By the way, if 15MP camera from Canon is a monster then so qualifies K-5 as well ;-). I was thinking in terms of physical size and weight, not mp count. William Robb --

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread William Robb
-- From: Tom C Subject: Re: Photokina observations... I couldn't care less whether people like what I say about Pentax or not. Well maybe a little less. :-) My point was I think Pentax has had an interim history of producing some either flawed

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread William Robb
-- From: Tom C Subject: Re: Photokina observations... A person of any age should not 'outgrow' what is a basic operating aspect of a camera. Why not? When I was 12 and got my first camera, I inherited a mid 50s era Fuji Rangefinder. Within a

Re: Mirrorless

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
This is too bad about the EPL1. The E-P1 works fine although its not fast AF. OTOH, my other system is a Pentax so what do I know. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/27/2010 4:02 PM, Thibouille wrote: Being for you Galia or for you, I think I

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Hooplah on the list about a Canon/Nikon killer? Really? The PDML? My observation is that each new Pentax body goes through a period of anticipation, followed by a brief period of lust, followed by a long period of complaints and bitterness. You know, like a marriage. Seriously, I don't think

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, Bob, for the congrats and kind words. I didn't notice the hospital bracelet until I started processing. The loose Band-Aid caught my attention as an intriguing minor detail. But, the hospital bracelet really was a nice touch in that it made me wonder what the guy's story was.

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
I know exactly what you mean. Some times great shots have small flaws and fixing/fixating on that fklaw ruins them. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:  Thank you, Frank! I spotted it right away, but managed to convince myself it was the proverbial

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Many thanks, Frank. I was tempted to crop out the OOF face, but decided that it somehow lent a kind of dreamy feel that served as a complement to her face. -- Walt On 9/27/2010 6:18 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
Yes. I'm quite sure I've read those kinds of statements here, especially WRT to the K10D. Overall I think the list has moderated a bit over the past several years. Having spent thousands on Pentax gear though, I reserve the right to complain loudly and vigourously, whenever I get the urge, or

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 5:01 PM, William Robb wrote: I was thinking in terms of physical size and weight, not mp count. William Robb Roger that. Just yesterday I got a third party grip for my K-7. It is positively a monster now. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 9/27/2010 4:50 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The Kx would be great. Smaller and lighter too. If you want her to keep the K10D, maybe teach her to move the AF point around by hand using the 4 way controller. This will slow her down but this would be a good way to learn about planning the

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thank you, Daniel! The place was crawling with conventionally pretty girls, but this one just had one of those faces that screamed at me to capture it. The fact that she was shy is communicated in her suppressed smile, which I really liked. I'm horrible at judging ages, but I would guess

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
You're right there's few if any perfect products. I have a 1 year old Garmin GPS that I consider a quite crappy product for the money I paid for it. You know the one. If' I'd have filled out my mfr's warranty card I'd have returned it long ago, but now I'm basically stuck with an over-priced,

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, Brian. I toyed with the light a bit, but concluded that the falloff enhanced the darkness of her hair and the contrast with her skin. I don't think it would have worked with a blond or a redhead, but on this particular girl, I thought it added to the shot. -- Walt On 9/27/2010

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, Rick. Here's the color version of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5029632557/#/ I decided to go with b/w because I felt the circles under her eyes were distracting, and I couldn't do anything about them without over-softening, or taking away from her skin tone. I

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice. Keep the K10D and get her an older MF macro lens. AF is tricky for insects anyway. MF first and then fine tune by rocking back and forth. http://www.keh.com/Camera/format-35mm/system-Pentax-Manual-Focus/category-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses?s=1bcode=PKccode=6cc=55968r=WGf On Mon, Sep 27,

Re: OT: The Man who saved the world

2010-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually he kind of did do his job. That's why there are humans in the command loop. Just don't expect anyone in higher command to thank him for it. On 9/27/2010 11:13 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Dan, He didn't do his job, thank God! Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Daniel J.

Re: PESO - Sunday Sunrise

2010-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
It's still not bad. Don't worry, there will be other sunrises. On 9/27/2010 7:03 AM, frank theriault wrote: I told you when I posted yesterday's PESO that the sunrise over Lake Ontario wasn't spectacular (or at least not as much as I'd hoped for) as there was a low-lying layer of clouds at

Re: Mirrorless

2010-09-27 Thread Miserere
What's the problem with the screen, exactly? On 27/09/2010, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Being for you Galia or for you, I think I mentionned in my Photokina observations thread that EPL1 had a BIG problem with the screen. It really is that bad. Did you try other mirrorless? I

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Pleasant, but you were right the first time. The BW version is the stronger portrait. On 9/27/2010 11:54 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Thanks, Rick. Here's the color version of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5029632557/#/ I decided to go with b/w because I felt the circles

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread Tom C
Come to think of it I bought it at Costco. I bet they'll take it back regardless and let me apply the purchase price to a different model. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: You're right there's few if any perfect products.  I have a 1 year old Garmin GPS that I

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Is that a hospital bracelet or a drink bracelet. I've been to a few events where they issue those of age something like that at the gate so that they may partake of adult beverages, without constantly being asked for ID. On 9/27/2010 10:24 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Walt, Nice catch. The guy

Re: Mirrorless

2010-09-27 Thread Thibouille
Slideshow. If anything moves on the screen (either the photographer or the scene) you get a slideshow. Something between 1 and 3 fps (and I'm generous). Maybe it was the lighting (but then when it is really dark, would you even get an image?) but I don't think so. Maybe a setting? Dunno but it was

Re: Photokina observations...

2010-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
There was much bitching and moaning on the Canon forums about the flawed auto focus on Canons professional cameras a couple of years ago. On 9/27/2010 11:18 AM, William Robb wrote: -- From: Tom C Subject: Re: Photokina observations... A

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
I assume it's a hospital bracelet since they issued tickets for drinks, rather than bracelets. They keep all the drinkers penned up in a beer garden -- which is just a glorified term for what's generally referred to as a segregation unit in the correctional system. Paducah, KY is very much

Re: PESO: Alabaster Coal

2010-09-27 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, P.J. I also liked the way it brought out her freckles, which I almost always find charming in portraits. -- Walt On 9/27/2010 11:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Pleasant, but you were right the first time. The BW version is the stronger portrait. On 9/27/2010 11:54 AM, Walter

Re: PESO: Feelin' the Groove

2010-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm glad you understood my post, because I just re-read it and I didn't... On 9/27/2010 12:24 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: I assume it's a hospital bracelet since they issued tickets for drinks, rather than bracelets. They keep all the drinkers penned up in a beer garden -- which is just a

Re: Mirrorless

2010-09-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
I just scanned around the room with the E-P1. Pretty smooth although it would occasionally jump if I really went fast. Turned the lights off, shut the blinds and tried again. Still smooth. maybe the E-Pl1? Maybe the EVIL gods hate you. ;-) On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Thibouille

Re: Mirrorless

2010-09-27 Thread Thibouille
Yah maybe :) But indeed this the 'L', not the regular EP1 I tried, so it may be a lot different with the 'vanilla' EP1. 2010/9/27 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: I just scanned around the room with the E-P1.  Pretty smooth although it would occasionally jump if I really went fast.  Turned

Re: The best modern camera for the child who likes to shoot

2010-09-27 Thread John Francis
Nowadays, if I'm being asked to make recommendations for someone without a vested interested in a particular system, I find it hard to suggest they go with the bulk and weight of a DSLR. The four thirds systems (and, in particular, micro four thirds) offer image quality as good as any DSLR

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