Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
If 50-200 Zuiko is fast (like f/2.8), then it could be preferable because ultimately it will give you even closer reach. If you decide to go with K-7, I suggest a battery grip that may help your steadiness. On 11/2/2010 5:13 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8)

Re: Pdml annual 2010-2011

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 11:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Are we doing one, Mark? similar deadline--Januaryish? Plan is for just like last year: Submissions accepted from Jan 1 to Feb 28. Book publication in late April. You're hereby better person than Miserere... Boris

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Personally, I think that Pentax backward compatibility is way overrated compared to what it truly is. On 11/1/2010 11:41 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Miserere wrote: Boris, I'd say yes and no. I suppose we should take into account what *might* happen 5 years from now, but what's more important to

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 8:47 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Many on this list want Pentax to produce a FF body. These would all be incompatible with the DA lenses. Apparently it might also be incompatible with the FA lenses, at least in terms of AF Steven, it would seem that Pentax FF body is not going

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Since you like me are wordy, my just as wordy reply interspersed :-). On 11/1/2010 8:22 PM, Miserere wrote: Boris, I'd say yes and no. I suppose we should take into account what *might* happen 5 years from now, but what's more important to me is what happens this Friday when I go shooting. If I

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 8:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: There is something that bothers me slightly. The future is a crystal ball with a lot of fog and little if anything to be seen. I don't think Pentax knows the future, including their future moves beyond the

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 8:15 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Nothing is sacred. Evolution happens. Exactly. But it also means that one has to carefully think when to move along with the evolution - be it upgrade their computer or camera gear. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 8:29 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Yes, but if one is already invested in the system and using it productively, it doesn't make much sense to fret over what might happen. I know my cameras and lenses do everything I need to do right now and will continue to do so for at least the near

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 8:27 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: I understand being concerned about the future in general and about the sustainability of the Pentax system in particular, but you cannot go into details. I truly don't understand how could one figure out a possible single move (such as stopping putting

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 6:41 PM, Thibouille wrote: Not so sure Boris, AFAIK the most problematic mechanical part in current mount isn't the AF screwdriver but the aperture lever. That is something I (personally) don't care about. To my luck, I had my share of problems with K and M lenses and presently I

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 8:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: The needle tracks up and down both of my arms spell out fast primes, but my K-x will do better in low light with f/2.8 glass than my K100 did with f/1.8 glass, the K-5 better still. /Pentax will get more low light benefit for their development dollar from

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/1/2010 10:30 PM, Miserere wrote: You know Bob, I did just that, I put the 31 Ltd on my ME Super and all my photos came out in BW! I'll never use that lens again on a film camera body, I'm sticking to using it on my K10D, where it gives me colour images. Fool me once! --M. Gee,

Re: OT- Welsh Wind

2010-11-02 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: http://cottycam.posterous.com/blowing-in-the-welsh-wind Give me a shout next time you're heading there. My parents live on the Wirral, so it's about 35 minutes without traffic to Conwy. Will probably be there the weekend before Christmas. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Dario Bonazza
Boris Liberman wrote: Quite right, Dario. Predicting the future is lousy occupation... What you're saying is that trying to cross the ocean on the small boat is risky. As well, one might be better off paying the price of buying a ticket to the Atlantic cruise ship... As a general rule, I

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/2/2010 9:07 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Sure. I was only wondering how can we: 1 - Discuss seriously a single step someone hypotesize will happen five years from now, and then: 2 - Decide a camera system strategy based on the agreement (or lack thereof) about that

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 11:26:47PM -0400, Miserere wrote: On 1 November 2010 23:18, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Nobody thought we'd lose the aperture ring until I stumbled across the FAJ lens description on Pentax's site, (I don't remember how many years ago). He's

Re: OT - San Francisco Giants

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/2/2010 7:38 AM, John Celio wrote: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39959453/ns/sports-baseball/ Finally! */My/ San Francisco Giants* are World Series Champions! :D :D :D You ought to be a very wealthy man, John... :-) Congratulations nonetheless :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Interesting article on the early history of photographic chemistry

2010-11-02 Thread David Mann
On Nov 2, 2010, at 9:06 AM, cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: I'd like to see the centerfold--is it of naked chemists such?Cheers Christine from Chicago I don't need the centrefold, I get to see a real naked chemist every day :) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: looking for tiny vivitar flash

2010-11-02 Thread mike wilson
Nick David Wright wrote: I just hope it's as small as it looks. That gives me an idea. If you have time, would you shoot a photo of the 200T and 280T side-by-side? I used to own the 280 and that would give me a better idea how big the 200 really is. I'd appreciate it very much.

Re: GESO Teresa

2010-11-02 Thread David Mann
On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Bonus! Gazanias. Christine commented favourably on these ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/5091067524/lightbox/ So will I but I am very partial to them, we have lots in our garden in plenty of different colours. They'll be

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/2/2010 9:14 AM, John Francis wrote: In any case, I reckon Pentax are pretty good as far as compatibility goes. We haven't yet seen a body that drops support for the A-series lenses, although it's almost 20 years since the FA lens family first showed up. I'm sure we'll see such a body

Re: peso - nice guy

2010-11-02 Thread David Mann
On Nov 2, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Hope the PUG has a 2010 theme that includes torn flesh. Maybe not... I remember what my knee looked like a couple of years ago. You'll be glad I didn't photograph it. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread David Mann
On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:11 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I love the caption on that shot at the top. Chris Pound explains how much he likes the 645D while, in the background, Ned Bunnell indicates how many grand it will cost. I think it's one of the best captions I've ever seen. :) Dave --

Re: PESO - color dilemma

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Fascinating. It is hard to put into words, Bong, but the color image is lighter, seemingly with smoother tonal changes. The b/w image has stronger contrast and to me its mood is slightly different... If I make no sense whatsoever, just disregard this message. Boris On 11/2/2010 2:22 AM,

Re: peso - nice guy

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Two questions: 1. Did you try to tickle him? 2. If you pinch him, will he disappear? Well, make that three: 3. Is he afraid of garlic? :-) Boris On 11/1/2010 6:36 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5134425479/ comments and critique welcomer as always -- PDML

Re: PESO - color dilemma

2010-11-02 Thread Bong Manayon
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Fascinating. It is hard to put into words, Bong, but the color image is lighter, seemingly with smoother tonal changes. The b/w image has stronger contrast and to me its mood is slightly different... If I make no sense

geso lynne

2010-11-02 Thread Larry Colen
One of my tango instructors wanted some photos for her website, and we spent a few hours this afternoon playing with camera and lights. It started off a little rough, but once we hit our stride, we got some decent shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625294995780/ You may find

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/1/2010 8:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: The needle tracks up and down both of my arms spell out fast primes, but my K-x will do better in low light with f/2.8 glass than my K100 did with f/1.8 glass, the K-5 better still. /Pentax will get

Re: The sanity clause

2010-11-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:35 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That is a God Awful pun. Thank you very much. On 10/31/2010 8:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'd like to thank John for the inspiration http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5133567061/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est

Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens feel that it will focus reliably in sometimes dim stage lights with a K-7? Because of the

Re: GESO Teresa

2010-11-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:53 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: My brother-in-law's sister recently agreed to model for me, and we spent a very pleasant afternoon this past Saturday in her lovely home. I enlisted my own sister as assistant. Teresa has been working out body building so after doing some

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/2/2010 10:43 AM, Larry Colen wrote: You have a camera body you like and lenses you like which work with it. At some point, it may be worth your while to see if there are lenses that you can't live without, and what body would make the best use of them. If you're lucky, you won't need to

Re: The sanity clause

2010-11-02 Thread eckinator
2010/11/2 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: That is a God Awful pun. and it isn't even all that new either =) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS2khYJZKwA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread eckinator
2010/11/1 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Paul, without intent to sound provocative here, but Nikon D7000 appears to move in the opposite direction - it offers compatibility with non CPU'ed lenses by having mechanical aperture coupling. This kind of introduction would make even less sense

Re: film scanners

2010-11-02 Thread eckinator
2010/11/1 CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com: He's a Windows computer - Canon Camera guy, but otherwise pretty stable. MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: IF ...

2010-11-02 Thread eckinator
and remember... TGIF... toes go in first =P 2010/11/1 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: If you stuff the toes of a pair of shoes so they'll have the right shape to photograph well, you have to remember to take all the crumpled up newspaper out again before trying to put the shoes on. Duh!

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: But fortunately I have an agreement with the potential buyer of most of my other gear. Wow! How big of a weekly allowance do you give her? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Larry, here is where you totally loose me... On 11/2/2010 11:09 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: But fortunately I have an agreement with the potential buyer of most of my other gear. Wow! How big of a weekly allowance do you give her? -- Larry

Re: PESO: Garage (I stink at coming up with creative peso names)

2010-11-02 Thread eckinator
Remind me to tell you the story of the name Purple City some time... 2010/11/1 Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice. Like it a lot. Looks like the mayor of Purple City just announced Complementary Contrast Week =) Now I

Re: PESO: Garage (I stink at coming up with creative peso names)

2010-11-02 Thread eckinator
2010/11/1 Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: The yellows were intentional.  The purples are certainly way more exaggerated compared to what my screen originally displayed. don't change them. they're what makes the image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 2, 2010, at 2:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Larry, here is where you totally loose me... On 11/2/2010 11:09 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: But fortunately I have an agreement with the potential buyer of most of my other gear. Wow!

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
I realized that, but unlike you being jocular, I was being serious *friendly smile*. Boris On 11/2/2010 11:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 2, 2010, at 2:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Larry, here is where you totally loose me... On 11/2/2010 11:09 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 1, 2010,

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread paul stenquist
Given the investment in the 645D, I doubt that we'll see a 24x36 sensor DSLR from Pentax. They already have two lines of lenses and bodies, including what seems to be a potential top contender for the pro market.. And they are both full frame. Neither comes with half a sensor. Paul On Nov 1,

Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread paul stenquist
I can second Christine's recommendation. I've shot performers with the DA* 50-135 and K7 with good results. Many wide open at ISO 6400 in dim lighting. No problem with autofocus or exposure. I believe all of these are either ISO 5000 or 6400, most at f2.8:

Re: K-r Review

2010-11-02 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Miserere wrote: On 1 November 2010 18:24, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: With the imminent arrival of the K5, perhaps we've lost sight of the other new arrival. Here's a quite positive review of the K-r.

Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 2, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I have been using faster lenses (77/1.8) for stage productions until now, but want to get a bit closer with a zoom. Do any of you who have this lens feel that it will focus reliably in

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 2, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/1/2010 8:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: The needle tracks up and down both of my arms spell out fast primes, but my K-x will do better in low light with f/2.8 glass than my K100 did with f/1.8 glass, the K-5 better still. /Pentax will get

OT: Funny!! I want to buy a rangefinder

2010-11-02 Thread Nick David Wright
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Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/2/2010 12:31 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Why would Pentax even consider developing more FA limiteds? They're not optimized for the APS-C image circle. They were designed for cameras that are no longer being produced. I expect Pentax will develop more fast primes, like the DA 77 limited for

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/2/2010 12:09 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Given the investment in the 645D, I doubt that we'll see a 24x36 sensor DSLR from Pentax. They already have two lines of lenses and bodies, including what seems to be a potential top contender for the pro market.. And they are both full frame.

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Dario Bonazza
Paul Stenquist wrote: Given the investment in the 645D, I doubt that we'll see a 24x36 sensor DSLR from Pentax. They already have two lines of lenses and bodies, including what seems to be a potential top contender for the pro market.. And a CSC (EVIL or not) will require another line of

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Mark Roberts
paul stenquist wrote: Given the investment in the 645D, I doubt that we'll see a 24x36 sensor DSLR from Pentax. They already have two lines of lenses and bodies, including what seems to be a potential top contender for the pro market.. The extra lens line for APS-C is way overestimated. Only

Re: Interesting article on the early history of photographic chemistry

2010-11-02 Thread chris107
The article is available on the Chemical Hertiage website as well: http://www.chemheritage.org/discover/magazine/articles/28-2-silver-and-sunlight.aspx No centerfolds though. You must need a subscription to get the good stuff. Chris S --- Original Message Follows --- From:

Re: Interesting article on the early history of photographic chemistry

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
LOL. I never think to look there. OK, guys, just go to the website. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:32 AM, chris...@canada.com wrote: The article is available on the Chemical Hertiage website as well: http://www.chemheritage.org/discover/magazine/articles/28-2-silver-and-sunlight.aspx No

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Right. I'm just saying this is another route to incompatible lenses than many members actually want. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/1/2010 8:47 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Many on this list want Pentax to produce a FF body.  These would all be

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, if the future FF body (just assuming for a moment that it might happen some day) can simply mask out the unused part of image circle if you mount a DA lens, then part of the problem is solved. It seems Nikon is doing similar thing. Boris On 11/2/2010 1:54 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 November 2010 23:00, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if the future FF body (just assuming for a moment that it might happen some day) can simply mask out the unused part of image circle if you mount a DA lens, then part of the problem is solved. It seems Nikon is doing

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/2/2010 2:07 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Boris, Nikon know nothing, heck they don't even have an MF digital! Cheers, Well, I think some kind of smiley and/or emoticon would be in order here... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 November 2010 23:11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/2/2010 2:07 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Boris, Nikon know nothing, heck they don't even have an MF digital! Cheers, Well, I think some kind of smiley and/or emoticon would be in order here... It was implied, one post

Re: Why do photographers always ...

2010-11-02 Thread wendy beard
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote: shoot pictures of their own feet? http://blog.nickdavidwright.net/2010/10/feet.html -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.net/ Dunno. I hate feet, but still do it

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread wendy beard
I missed it too, Tan. Been too busy to read the list recently Wendy On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: What the heck?!?!  I missed the whole thing!  Bill is gone? He has to be one of the longest standing members of this list... I don't know what to say!

OT: Little pumpkin

2010-11-02 Thread wendy beard
Sorry, no Pentax content http://www.flickr.com/photos/wendybeard/5129698722/in/photostream/ (my daughter's daughter.. :-) ) -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread DagT
On 2 November 2010 23:00, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if the future FF body (just assuming for a moment that it might happen some day) can simply mask out the unused part of image circle if you mount a DA lens, then part of the problem is solved. It seems Nikon is doing

Re: OT: Little pumpkin

2010-11-02 Thread Jack Davis
That's a treasure! All around beautiful. Jack --- On Tue, 11/2/10, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote: From: wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com Subject: OT: Little pumpkin To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 5:29 AM Sorry, no Pentax content

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread eckinator
2010/11/2 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: Nikon know nothing, heck they don't even have an MF digital! couldn't be - Kennyboy after all shoots Nikon's pro model, the D40... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread DagT
Paul Stenquist wrote: Given the investment in the 645D, I doubt that we'll see a 24x36 sensor DSLR from Pentax. They already have two lines of lenses and bodies, including what seems to be a potential top contender for the pro market.. And a CSC (EVIL or not) will require another line of

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Tom C
He called Godfrey a faggot. That made Godfrey happy, but it made a lot of other list members angry because they think Bill shouldn't call Godfrey that. So they hyperventilated and got all over Bill's case in some idiotic guise of 'moral' enlightement and political correctness. Tom C. On Sat,

Re: VOT: Which bikey are you?

2010-11-02 Thread eckinator
2010/11/1 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com: perhaps they are commandos who haven't yet figured out that the war is over... Bob's right.  You never would have spotted the ninjas. those were of course hiding behind the commandos... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Little pumpkin

2010-11-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Hey grandma, that's one for the brag book! :-) Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:29 AM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, no Pentax content http://www.flickr.com/photos/wendybeard/5129698722/in/photostream/ (my daughter's daughter.. :-) ) -- Wendy Beard Carp,

Re: OT: Little pumpkin

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Ok then. So, Wendy and Paul - do we have a contest? :- Lovely pictures of a sweet child and welcome back, Wendy! Boris On 11/2/2010 2:29 PM, wendy beard wrote: Sorry, no Pentax content http://www.flickr.com/photos/wendybeard/5129698722/in/photostream/ (my daughter's daughter.. :-) )

Re: looking for tiny vivitar flash

2010-11-02 Thread Nick David Wright
That's disappointing ... its nearly the same size as the 280t. Guess I'll just stick with my original idea and get the Vivitar 2000. Also, I don't recall the 280T having controllable manual power. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:22 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Nick David Wright

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:15, Tom C wrote: He called Godfrey a faggot. That made Godfrey happy, but it made a lot of other list members angry because they think Bill shouldn't call Godfrey that. So they hyperventilated and got all over Bill's case in some idiotic guise of 'moral' enlightement and

Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
Thanks Christine. Like you, I'll be the only person in the audience (dress rehearsal), so I'll be able to close in. The shots you posted look great. A far cry from mine from the mid-1990's when I had to use Fuji 800. Jeffery On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: The DA*

Re: GESO Teresa

2010-11-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you very much, Paul. -bmw On 10-11-01 9:47 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Well done. The portrait is excellent IMO. Paul On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Thank you, Dave! -bmw On 10-11-01 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I like the second shot a lot. Well posed Dave On

Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
The Zuiko isn't very fast, so I've used it outdoors for the most part. Indoors, I'd probably have to go with 5.6 at the largest. On Nov 2, 2010, at 1:12 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: If 50-200 Zuiko is fast (like f/2.8), then it could be preferable because ultimately it will give you even closer

Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
I have a K-x and used it (for the first time) on the last stage production. I didn't really have any DARK dark scenes, so it worked okay. I know this show will have some serious darkness. Jeffery On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jeffery Smith

Re: PESO - color dilemma

2010-11-02 Thread David J Brooks
As with Jack, i prefer the colour version. Dave On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: I went on a walk in a local public cemetery on halloween with somber and black white in mind but what greeted me was color (have not been in these places for decades).  

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Tom C
IMO, Godfrey was being his annoying arrogant self and irritated Bill. It's cause and effect. If Godfrey provoked it, and he didn't care about the response, and moreover accepted the acclaimation, then I don't quite see why anyone else should or did. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Charles

Re: OT: Little pumpkin

2010-11-02 Thread David J Brooks
Cute Dave On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:29 AM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, no Pentax content http://www.flickr.com/photos/wendybeard/5129698722/in/photostream/ (my daughter's daughter.. :-) ) -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
Good close, sharp shots Paul. I'll probably start with an ISO of 1600 and see how it goes. I've never used the setting that allows me to choose shutter speed and aperture while letting the camera choose the ISO. This seems like a good opportunity to try that feature. Jeffery On Nov 2, 2010,

Re: Dare I use a 50-135 f/2.8 + K-7 to shoot a musical this week?

2010-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, then it is no issue - DA* 50-135/2.8 would seem to be your best option among those at hand. Boris On 11/2/2010 3:53 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: The Zuiko isn't very fast, so I've used it outdoors for the most part. Indoors, I'd probably have to go with 5.6 at the largest. On Nov 2, 2010,

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:59, Tom C wrote: IMO, Godfrey was being his annoying arrogant self and irritated Bill. It's cause and effect. If Godfrey provoked it, and he didn't care about the response, and moreover accepted the acclaimation, then I don't quite see why anyone else should or did.

Re: geso lynne

2010-11-02 Thread Bruce Walker
On 10-11-02 4:24 AM, Larry Colen wrote: One of my tango instructors wanted some photos for her website, and we spent a few hours this afternoon playing with camera and lights. It started off a little rough, but once we hit our stride, we got some decent shots:

Re: PESO: Bug Eyes

2010-11-02 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, Steven. They do make good photo fodder. I wish I could see her more often than I do. -- Walt On 11/1/2010 12:18 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: She has beautiful eyes. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, My great-niece stopped by

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: While I didn't buy the 31 Ltd for film, due to its FOV, and then I bought it for its FOV on DX sensors. Great minds think unlike, and small minds too ;-) Dario I bought my 77 Ltd because it was shiny. Dave --

Re: PESO: Bug Eyes

2010-11-02 Thread Walter Gilbert
Thanks, Jack. If I'd had more hair, I'm pretty sure it would have turned grey overnight. -- Walt On 11/1/2010 12:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Ghastly, Walter!! ;) Will likely experience night terrors for some time. Seriously cute, Walt. Jack --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Walter

Re: PESO: Bug Eyes

2010-11-02 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks for letting me know. Western Kentucky was on my short list. I'll now remove it. Nice photos BTW Dave On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:  Hi all, My great-niece stopped by to terrorize me last night.  And, since I don't get to see her very often,

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Dario Bonazza
David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: While I didn't buy the 31 Ltd for film, due to its FOV, and then I bought it for its FOV on DX sensors. Great minds think unlike, and small minds too ;-) Dario I bought my 77 Ltd because

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Scott Loveless
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, Godfrey was being his annoying arrogant self and irritated Bill. It's cause and effect. If Godfrey provoked it, and he didn't care about the response, and moreover accepted the acclaimation, then I don't quite see why anyone

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Dario Bonazza
DagT wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote: And a CSC (EVIL or not) will require another line of lenses. That will have priority over a possible 24x36 system. However, I admit I would consider buying a Pentax 24x36 DSLR, while I don't think about the 645D as a possible target of mine. I don't think

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Tom C
LOL... that probably sums it up. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, Godfrey was being his annoying arrogant self and irritated Bill. It's cause and effect. If Godfrey provoked it, and

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
True enough. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if the future FF body (just assuming for a moment that it might happen some day) can simply mask out the unused part of image circle if you mount a DA lens, then part of the problem is solved. It seems

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
And we wonder why camera companies have problems. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: While I didn't buy the 31 Ltd for film, due to its FOV, and

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't know much about FF/FX/24x36/whatever we want to call them/ bodies offered by others. Can anyone estimate how much it would cost if Pentax simply stuck a bigger sensor in a K5-like body? $2500? I think the problem they have is that going after the Canikon folks in their home court is a

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't understand why people think it is their right to use the the word faggot and then get all hurt when someone exercises their right to call them a jerk. Bill wasn't banned, he left on his own. I wish he had stayed because I often liked what he had to say. But you can't call people names

Re: OT: Little pumpkin

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
No need to apologize. What an adorable baby and picture. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:29 AM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, no Pentax content http://www.flickr.com/photos/wendybeard/5129698722/in/photostream/ (my daughter's daughter.. :-) ) -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
Because it was gratuitously offensive? Because its sole purpose was to offend? If Robb wanted to call him that, he could have done it offlist, but wanted an audience to see it. The audience saw it. If this list were entirely composed of racist, sexist, homophobic members, then that sort have

Re: K-r Review

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I do find myself in low light on many occasions. I mean, what active photographer doesn't? I was attracted to the K7 because of all the good things I heard about the 77 point exposure system, which I figured would affect a higher percentage of my shots. It was tempting, however, to wait for the

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I love you too, Tom. I ignore you too. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: He called Godfrey a faggot.  That made Godfrey happy, but it made a lot of other list members angry because they think Bill shouldn't call Godfrey that. So they hyperventilated and got all

Re: OT - San Francisco Giants

2010-11-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sure I do. I'm a Red Sox fan and I remember 2004. What I found amazing was that the Giants bats just came to life during the WS in a way we had;'t really seen all season. It's not like the Rangers have a weak staff (although he bullpen is a bit suspect). Congrats! On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:38

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