Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-04 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: Pity Bill isn't around, I'm filming at Auschwitz on Tuesday - I could really get my chance to justify the holocaust... Give me a shout if you need any contacts over there. At least one list memeber in Krakow, also. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-04 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:38 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I have no reason not to. But speaking of native speakers, I suppose Sting is native enough, isn't he? If memory serves he's from Scotland. I don't know if that makes him a native English speaker

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread DagT
When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... The same time that we start referring to darkroom work as analogue post processing? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread Gasha
Welcome to the club! Gasha, 6x7/MLU/75mm Jens wrote: Hi guys Some of you may be giving a camera like this away - But I went out and bought one :-) I went to visit a studio today to buy one of their Pentax 67's. Mostly used by fashion photographers, of which there are not many left in this

Re: GESO: Quake (#3)

2010-11-04 Thread David Mann
On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: You're pretty good with a cell phone. what kind is it? Thanks, but all I do is point the thing and press the button. It's a fairly basic model, Sony Ericsson K610i. I bought it 3 years ago after I broke my T100 in the same fall that broke

Re: Re: Enablement: Pentax 67 - user manual

2010-11-04 Thread Jens
Thanks Gasha Do anyone her happen to have a pdf manual for the camera nad prism finder? Or know where to find these for free? Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 4, 2010 09:35 Gasha cir...@konts.lv wrote: Welcome to the club! Gasha, 6x7/MLU/75mm

Re: Re: Enablement: Pentax 67 - user manual

2010-11-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
Jens wrote: Do anyone her happen to have a pdf manual for the camera nad prism finder? Or know where to find these for free? http://www.pentaximaging.com/support/manuals-and-literature/ Dario (of the 6x7 steam club) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread Jens
Go for it, Nick. They seem to be getting cheaper each day :-) Although I've noticed, that on ebay the prices seem to vary a great deal. For instance a 165mm LS lens (which I want soon) seem to sell for sometimes 100 USD and sometimes 500 USD, according to completed listings. Regards Jens --

Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread Thibouille
Jens, you only fuel my wants to get one myself (or at least a 645/66). I'm certain you will produce beautiful work with it. Cheers Thibs 2010/11/3 Jens p...@planfoto.dk: Hi guys Some of you may be giving a camera like this away - But I went out and bought one :-) I went to visit a studio

Re: Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread Jens
Thanks. Yes film is great - again. I believe that the digital photography revolution have really killed many of the bad or not so good labs. No developing at the nearest street corner anymore. Now we MUST go to a real pro-lab. And when we do, we get excellent high rez. negs, that will scan to

Re: Small GESO - from the recent trip to Chicago

2010-11-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Hmmm, the pictures are really wonderful, including that of an odd fellow in the restaurant of some sort *friendly grin*. But where's Frank? I wanna see Frank's picture *broad grin*. Glad to have you back with these most enjoyable pictures, Ann! Boris On 11/3/2010 5:42 PM, Ann Sanfedele

Re: Pentax Photo Gallery acceptance + semi-OT question

2010-11-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 6:38 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, OK, I'll get the boasting out of the way, first: I found out yesterday that I've had three more of my submissions accepted, and one declined, for the Pentax Photo Gallery. I'll take those odds! I still have two of my original submissions

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-04 Thread Thibouille
My take on this is the following: There's no wonder that cameras do indeed change the exact values of exposure parameters. This is nothing new. Oe will display 1/30 at f/2.8 (AV mode) when really the camera decided to use 1/27 but for clarity purposes, displays 1/30. I have no problem with that.

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Thibouille wrote: My take on this is the following: ... snip ... With reviews as they are done now (good or bad) the fact that some cameras (yes, Nikon being one of them but Pentax might be as well) display (always) Iso6400 but use Iso5000 is nothing but a

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/11/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Give me a shout if you need any contacts over there. At least one list memeber in Krakow, also. Thanks. On a coach straight from Krakow to Auschwitz and then return some hours later. 5am flight from Gatwick, so hotel night before and next

Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread paul stenquist
My 165/4LS, which was truly mint, went for $175. I had purchased it new from a store that was going out of business for the same price about seven years ago. My 55/4 -- the most recent and most desirable version of the three 55 mm lenses-- went for $326. It was also in like new condition. Paul

Re: Enablement: Pentax 67 - user manual

2010-11-04 Thread Gasha
also check this link: http://www.antiquecameras.net/pentax6x7lenses.html G Dario Bonazza wrote: Jens wrote: Do anyone her happen to have a pdf manual for the camera nad prism finder? Or know where to find these for free? http://www.pentaximaging.com/support/manuals-and-literature/ Dario

Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread Gasha
What was your impression about 55/4 ? Is it worth to get it ? I didnt had luck to get reasonable price on ebay... Gasha paul stenquist wrote: My 165/4LS, which was truly mint, went for $175. I had purchased it new from a store that was going out of business for the same price about seven

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-04 Thread Thibouille
Hehe, got your point Larry but there's a difference between promoting the good things of a product (not stating bad ones) and bold lies. I'll add that politics lies are no reason to accept lies everywhere else except maybe if this is the world one wants to live in. 2010/11/4 Larry Colen

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread Nick David Wright
Maybe about the same time we stop referring to 35mm-sized imaging sensors as full-frame? ;-) On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:31 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... The same time that we start referring to darkroom work as

Re: PESO One more Teresa (GESO addition)

2010-11-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On 10-11-03 9:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: If you liked Teresa, I added one more shot of her in body-building mode to my mini GESO ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/5143832857/lightbox/ I like it. The one suggestion I'd make is

Re: OT - Atomic Bomb Test Photographs

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
I didn't see any references to Harold Edgerton, Papa Flash, in the bomb photos. He formed a company EGG and created a special camera to capture the blasts. Mechanical shutters were way too slow to stop a blast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapatronic_camera Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at

Re: PESO One more Teresa (GESO addition)

2010-11-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you very much, Paul. -bmw On 10-11-03 9:24 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Good one. Love that glow. Paul On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: If you liked Teresa, I added one more shot of her in body-building mode to my mini GESO ...

Re: PESO One more Teresa (GESO addition)

2010-11-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Power which, I feel, is reflected in her eyes too. Thank you, Steven! -bmw On 10-11-03 9:31 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I like this one. It's kind of a glam shot but there is a clear hint of power in that muscle definition. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:24 PM, paul

Re: PESO One more Teresa (GESO addition)

2010-11-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Christine. -bmw On 10-11-03 11:19 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: What Paul Said. the 1st one of the 3-shot gallery--very, very nice! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent:

Re: My Photo courses till now..

2010-11-04 Thread Thibouille
But yes, you did. That's what I was after. I don't ask anyone to like it. Just to do it. If you hate it, you'll love digital way of doing things a lot more. But then if have quite some convenience you probably did not get: 1/ the Durst are fully automatic, meaning it will do the math itself if

Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread P N Stenquist
The last version of the 55/4, with the lens information printed on the tapered end of the focusing barrel (like an SMC-A lens) is excellent. The 55/4 that precedes it was not. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Gasha wrote: What was your impression about 55/4 ? Is it worth to get it ? I

Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have an old-style 6X7. It is a wonderful camera. I have a few rolls of film in the freezer, and one of these days, I'm going to go out and re-live the good old days. Most of the folks who used to develop my film and make reasonable priced contacts are long gone, unfortunately, so developing

Re: PESO - Halloween Lights

2010-11-04 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Frank! Sometime I may try playing with the luminance sliders to see if I can improve the appearance of sharpness. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 11/2/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re:

Re: Enablement: Pentax 67

2010-11-04 Thread David J Brooks
I still have my 6x7 with metered prism and the 90 2.8 and the 200 Tak. I shot a few rolls of BW in 2007 i think it was. There is a Blacks camera not to far from me that still does processing and scanning. I should run a few rolls through it. Have to check the fridge but should have some BW as well

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
Amen, Brother. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe about the same time we stop referring to 35mm-sized imaging sensors as full-frame? ;-) On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:31 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: When /will/ we stop referring to post

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:16 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... The same time i spell a post corectly Dave -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David J Brooks I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Doesn't look like it's in there yet. It does support the 645D. Right now i am looking at cameras that my computers ie LR2 and CS1 will

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-04 Thread Mat Maessen
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: First you want honesty in advertising? What next? Honesty in politics? Politeness on mailing lists? A Pentax with decent autofocus? MARK! -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-04 Thread P N Stenquist
If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:32 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David J Brooks I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.??

Re: Re: Enablement: Pentax 67 - user manual

2010-11-04 Thread John Sessoms
Looks like they're on the Pentax self-support site - 67, 67II and 67 TTL Pentaprism: http://www.pentaximaging.com/support/manuals-and-literature/ From: Jens Thanks Gasha Do anyone her happen to have a pdf manual for the camera nad prism finder? Or know where to find these for free? Regards

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Thibouille wrote: My take on this is the following: ... snip ... Those are bold lies and should be presented as such. First you want honesty in advertising? What next? Honesty in politics? Politeness on mailing lists? A Pentax with decent

K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Here are 2 photos from this morning, just after sunrise and just before. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5Samples# Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: My Photo courses till now..

2010-11-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Thibouille But yes, you did. That's what I was after. I don't ask anyone to like it. Just to do it. If you hate it, you'll love digital way of doing things a lot more. But then if have quite some convenience you probably did not get: 1/ the Durst are fully automatic, meaning it will do

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Boris Liberman
I am having a vague *grin* recollection of that park... Boris On 11/4/2010 4:55 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Here are 2 photos from this morning, just after sunrise and just before. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5Samples# Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Stan Halpin
I wish you would stop this Bob! I really don't have the time right now to list/sell my K20's and buy K-5's. And I don't have the ready funds to buy one without selling one or both of the K20's. So stop with the tempting photos already! BTW, does it work in the daylight as well? Or is it a

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
Mighty crisp, Bob! Thanks for showing! Jack --- On Thu, 11/4/10, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: K-5 sample photos - this AM To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 7:55 AM Here are 2 photos from this morning,

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 10:16:23PM -0500, P. J. Alling wrote: When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... About the same time we stop using architect as a verb... -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Jack, I wanted to put an ISO 1600 sample out there and the deer cooperated this morning. With the ISO 400 crescent moon at the stop light, I couldn't help myself... :-) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Mighty crisp, Bob! Thanks for

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I am having a vague *grin* recollection of that park... Boris On 11/4/2010 4:55 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Here are 2 photos from this morning, just after sunrise and just before.

PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=541 Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I guess 400 is then new 100. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I am having a vague *grin* recollection of that park... Boris On 11/4/2010 4:55 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Here are

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yes Boris, that's the Arboretum, the same park we visited. With sunrise at 7:26 AM today, it was a chance to catch the deer. You can just see the lake in the background. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I am having a vague *grin*

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Steve, I like ISO 400 on the K-7 as well. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I guess 400 is then new 100. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Boris Liberman

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
yeah, yeah, stunningly beautiful, great to be alive, how glorious is God's creation, etc. That's all you got? On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=541 Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
yeah, yeah, stunningly beautiful, great to be alive, how glorious is God's creation, etc. That's all you got? On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=541 Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Stan, Sorry. It works in the daylight too. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I wish you would stop this Bob! I really don't have the time right now to list/sell my K20's and buy K-5's. And I don't have the ready funds to buy

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
We can work on half of that. ;-) On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Larry Colen On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Thibouille wrote: My take on this is the following: ... snip ... Those are bold lies and should be presented as such. First you

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
Steven Desjardins wrote: I guess 400 is then new 100. So 200mm becomes 300mm and ISO 400 becomes 100... now I guess the in-depth meaning of digital. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I used to think RAW DNG was something you got at a Korean restaurant. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:16 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: If you shoot RAW DNG, almost any conversion software will support the K-5. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Nov 3,

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Great light, stunning image. It pays to be up early! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=541 Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
No..but it's my most successful in shooting around neighborhood street lights, etc. ;) Thanks, Steve!! Jack --- On Thu, 11/4/10, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: This AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date:

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I do like the vampire camera idea. Wouldn't it have to be mirrorless? On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Stan, Sorry.  It works in the daylight too.  :-) Regards,  Bob S. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:13, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=541 Neato! We had a couple mornings in a row this week with similar lighting effects on the undersides of the clouds... but there I was, stuck on a freeway driving to work. I had to take a

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
Pleasing to read, Bob! Thanks! It pays especially well in the fall..and are lucky. :) Jack --- On Thu, 11/4/10, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: This AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, November

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I've done that. I've also thought about sending my eyes to Pentax USA for some back focus adjustment. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:13, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=541 Neato! We

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
Work? Oh yeah, I remember that. (UGH!) Your time will come. More pollution will then make even better sunrises and sunsets. ;) Appreciated words, Charles. Jack --- On Thu, 11/4/10, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: Re: PESO: This AM

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread eckinator
yeah with a sensor shaped something like the batman logo perhaps? 2010/11/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: I do like the vampire camera idea.  Wouldn't it have to be mirrorless? On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Stan, Sorry.  It works in the

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
LOL.. Jack --- On Thu, 11/4/10, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: This AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010, 8:35 AM I've done that.  I've also thought about sending my eyes to

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
Minimum ISO of 3200, only comes in black, shutter release is a little pin pointing up. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:41 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: yeah with a sensor shaped something like the batman logo perhaps? 2010/11/4 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: I do like the vampire

Re: My Photo courses till now..

2010-11-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On 10-10-28 9:32 AM, Thibouille wrote: Those who never had the opportunity to develop/make prints from films, you dunno what you're missing. Just do it ! Similarly, those who've never had the opportunity to program a computer by punching cards, adding job control to the deck, dropping the

Re: My Photo courses till now..

2010-11-04 Thread Thibouille
Agreed John but you get something usable to begin with. Once you mastered the use of the enlarger, then you can proceed to the chemistry part. If you try to learn everything at once, no wonder people hate it ;) 2010/11/4 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: Thibouille But yes, you did.

The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread Jeffery Smith
I shot a few hundred frames last night at a dress rehearsal. Took a K-7 and K-x with me, with a 77 1.8 lens and 50-135 2.8 lens. There were MANY people on the stage so both lenses ended up being a bit too long. But both had some problems with the dramatic lighting conditions. When I tried using

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Incredible sky, nicely captured. Dan http://tinyurl.com/matyola On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=541 Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 09:31:02AM +0100, DagT wrote: When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... The same time that we start referring to darkroom work as analogue post processing? Which will be shortly after we stop dialing numbers on our cellphones

Re: My Photo courses till now..

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Oh I remember those painful days of punched cards. Your program doesn't compile because of 3-4 syntax errors (typos or misplaced commas or semicolons). So you correct the 3 you find and resubmit the deck. Of course, it fails because there was the 4th error you didn't see or failed to correct.

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread Dario Bonazza
When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... .. just after stopping calling it 'Brightroom' (truly in use over here :-) Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jeffery, The removable square tab is so that when a polarizing filter is mounted you can adjust it. Lightroom 3 has some good noise reduction algorithms and Boris mentioned liking Topaz. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: I shot a few

Re: PESO: This AM

2010-11-04 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dan. In the future I'll just languish in bed and pull this up about 10:00 AM. ;) Jack --- On Thu, 11/4/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: This AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date:

Re: The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread Jeffery Smith
I'm going to start editing tonight. I'll give the Topaz a look. I really need a new Mac (mine is 4 years old). Jeffery On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Jeffery, The removable square tab is so that when a polarizing filter is mounted you can adjust it. Lightroom 3 has some

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/11/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Nah! I just want to be able to walk down the streets and hear people murmuring, Boy, that guy sure is *RICH*!, instead of the usual Ain't he good lookin'! John you should try going out by yourself and not with you pal. - ;-) --

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Miserere
On 4 November 2010 10:55, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Here are 2 photos from this morning, just after sunrise and just before. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5Samples# Regards,  Bob S. Great, more logs to the fire :-s --M. --     \/\/o/\/\ --

Re: k-5 autofocus vs. Canon 5000 Mark II

2010-11-04 Thread Miserere
On 3 November 2010 21:33, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I've heard a few nice comments about the K5 AF.  Thus far I've treated them like UFO sightings, but maybe. . . Pentax has conditioned us to set our AF expectations so low that

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Thanks Jack, I wanted to put an ISO 1600 sample out there and the deer cooperated this morning. With the ISO 400 crescent moon at the stop light, I couldn't help myself... :-) Bob, I don't think that *anybody* could help you. -- Larry

Re: OT:Gmail filters

2010-11-04 Thread Steffen Zahn
Am 03.11.2010 23:05, schrieb Bob W: does this mean you don't want to buy the Viagra? B Please don't mention the V-word in regular emails, that could mess up my self-learning spam filter ;-) Steffen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 1:16 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:38 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I have no reason not to. But speaking of native speakers, I suppose Sting is native enough, isn't he? If memory

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... What do you mean *we*? white man. (*) http://www.michaelclark.name/jokes/misc/the_lone_ranger_and_tonto.shtml -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est --

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Nick David Wright pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe about the same time we stop referring to 35mm-sized imaging sensors as full-frame? GAAH! Oh, did I say that with my outside voice? 0:-) -- Godfrey   godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 09:31:02AM +0100, DagT wrote: When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... Digital Darkroom has a nice beat and you can dance to it Post processing sounds like you are dealing with mailed packages yeah, I'm back now ann

Re: The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/4/2010 7:22 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I'm going to start editing tonight. I'll give the Topaz a look. I really need a new Mac (mine is 4 years old). Jeffery Jeffery, Topaz is giving you full (no watermarks, reduced size, etc) 30 days trial. I tried - it seems to be doing noticeably

Re: OT:Gmail filters

2010-11-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/4/2010 7:36 PM, Steffen Zahn wrote: Please don't mention the V-word in regular emails, that could mess up my self-learning spam filter ;-) Steffen Logical indeed. But can this honorable community come up with at least one word starting with each and every letter of English alphabet,

Re: OT - Atomic Bomb Test Photographs

2010-11-04 Thread Miserere
On 3 November 2010 17:22, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: Gaaa! Nuclear, not new-cue-lar! Oh well, Carter and Bush II couldn't pronounce it either. Jeffery As a one-time nuclear physicist (sort of), this is a pet peeve of mine. We should get one of these T-shirts, Jeff:

Re: JAlbum book review

2010-11-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Late but actual follow up to my original review. I do apologize for unnecessarily protracted silence... The interesting dimensions are: 1. Photograph on the front cover: 273 mm x 183 mm. 2. Vertical picture: 123 mm x 184 mm. 3. Horizontal picture: 230 mm x 184 mm. Boris -- PDML

Re: My Photo courses till now..

2010-11-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:16 AM, Thibouille wrote: Agreed John but you get something usable to begin with. Once you mastered the use of the enlarger, then you can proceed to the chemistry part. If you try to learn everything at once, no wonder people hate it ;) Been there, done that. Didn't

Re: K-5 sample photos - this AM

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Sullivan
probably true... On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Thanks Jack, I wanted to put an ISO 1600 sample out there and the deer cooperated this morning. With the ISO 400 crescent moon at the stop light, I couldn't

Re: OT:Gmail filters

2010-11-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
A for Aperture Simulator (that's obvious) -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/11/4 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: But can this honorable community come up with at least one word starting with each and every letter of English alphabet, that shouldn't be mentioned... Let

Re: Small GESO - from the recent trip to Chicago

2010-11-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Thanks to all who commented with kind words and corny comments too ... as to some specifics ... P N Stenquist wrote: ... But who's that scruffy old man with the hot dogs? Some homeless guy you found in Detroit? :-)) Paul On Nov 3, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Re: The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread John Graves
Betcha it's so the prism mounted flash is not blocked John / WA1JG On 11/4/2010 12:27 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: By the way, why does the hood of the 35-150 zoom have a square tab that is removable? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Apropos of nothing really

2010-11-04 Thread Mark Roberts
When /will/ we stop referring to post processing as Digital Darkroom work... Several years ago, as far as I can tell. I never used the term and I can't remember the last time I heard anyone else do so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread paul stenquist
No, the opening won't help the on-board flash work with this lens. The opening is for adjusting a polarizer. I use it all the time when shooting cars. Paul On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:11 PM, John Graves wrote: Betcha it's so the prism mounted flash is not blocked John / WA1JG On 11/4/2010 12:27

Re: The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread Jeffery Smith
My Mac seems to struggle (run very slowly) with Lightroom and Aperture, so I've sort of avoided them until a get a screamer of a new computer. I give Topaz a run for the money this weekend when I edit 400-some shots. What I'm not looking forward to is removing a microphone from the side of the

Boris Peso #47 - Topaz Cat (technical)

2010-11-04 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Just bought Topaz Denoise. Here is an image I processed with it. K-5 is good, but I am not buying it - there is no need, really. Have a look: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-47-topaz-cat.html Please be brutal and honest, especially those of you who have experience

Re: The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread Mat Maessen
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: My Mac seems to struggle (run very slowly) with Lightroom and Aperture, so I've sort of avoided them until a get a screamer of a new computer. I give Topaz a run for the money this weekend when I edit 400-some

Re: The K-5 vs K-x vs K-7

2010-11-04 Thread Jeffery Smith
Doubling the memory in it would probably make a big difference. I think it is 2gb. I'm a novice with Macs (I did all sorts of hardware upgrades on my first few PCs). The Apple Store down here could do it, but they are nested in the most overcrowded mall in the metropolitan New Orleans area, so

Re: OT - Atomic Bomb Test Photographs

2010-11-04 Thread Jeffery Smith
As a full time biologist, they use it when talking about the nucleus of an atom and also as the nucleus of a cell. My cell physiology professor from 1970 used to blow a gasket when a student asked about the nuculus. The Dean of Allied Health at my college can't pronounce it either, so he just

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