RE: digital bw

2010-11-19 Thread Bob W
Very true! I'd say it took me about a year to be completely comfortable making BW conversions that looked exactly like I wanted them to. Colin, I like me some contrasty BW, but there's nothing like an image displaying the whole array of greys:

Boris PESO #50 - Moshe Aviv Tower

2010-11-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Please have a look and have your brutal and honest say: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-50-moshe-aviv-tower.html I will return there with proper gear... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Another interesting write up about 645D

2010-11-19 Thread Bruce Walker
On 10-11-16 7:07 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Indeed...and the K-5 is growing a very good reputation in the 'industry'...(lesnumeriques just tested the 60D and they say that it is a good camera but not at the level of K-5/D7000) The looser here semms the K-r...well...maybe the success of the K-x

Re: PESO 2010 - 200-Pigeon Point #3 - GDG

2010-11-19 Thread David J Brooks
Really like this one. The composition and detail is great Dave On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: Another from the annual lighting of the fresnel lamp at the Pigeon Point lighthouse. In this photo, two photographers getting set up for their shoot on

Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light

2010-11-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack, That fence really works with the lighthouse. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Was reworking some old files and decided to get a new scan of this northern California light. Shot, obviously, on a Blue Bird day sometime in the early

Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light

2010-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Appreciate your commenting, Bob! Thanks! I wouldn't have done anything with this touristy shot if not for the pleasingly curved fence leading my eye into the scene. Jack --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re:

Re: PESO - November Clematis

2010-11-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, I like the clematis. Good colors and the end of the season! Your shot remindes me that we didn't see much of ours here. And your comments on ISO 1600 are right on the money. The K-5 delivers very good images at ISO 1600! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:30 PM, paul stenquist

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Featherstone
2010/11/18 Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com: On 18 November 2010 21:19, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: My brother has been doing some research on these bottles we toasted from when we were in China this May. Seems that BaiJiu has a storied history in China. The

Re: Boris PESO #50 - Moshe Aviv Tower

2010-11-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris, Were you shooting thru a drawing on a glass window? The sky looks wonderful, but the drawing is a detriment. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Please have a look and have your brutal and honest say:

PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.4 AL lens test

2010-11-19 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2010s=0category=infoblog=20101119151942 ^^^ first impression of the new lens. It is so fresh my exiv2 - exif library can't identify the lens, simply giving Unknown (7 214) but this shall bi fixed with further software updates... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light

2010-11-19 Thread paul stenquist
I like the shot. The fence makes it an interesting composition. I think the horizon is off by a bit. A slight counterclockwise rotation would fix that. Paul On Nov 19, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Appreciate your commenting, Bob! Thanks! I wouldn't have done anything with this touristy

Re: Boris PESO #50 - Moshe Aviv Tower

2010-11-19 Thread paul stenquist
The drawing on the window is fun. The city skyline from the roof appears to be good quality for a cellphone pic. Go back with your camera at dawn! Paul On Nov 19, 2010, at 2:59 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Please have a look and have your brutal and honest say:

Re: digital bw

2010-11-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Very true! I'd say it took me about a year to be completely comfortable making BW conversions that looked exactly like I wanted them to. Colin, I like me some contrasty BW, but there's nothing like an image displaying the

Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light

2010-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for commenting, Paul. Yes, I agree with you about the slight horizon tilt and am not sure why I haven't nudged the light to the left a smidge before now. I hadn't looked at it for some time and perhaps it's just been too subtle to demand a fix. ;) Jack --- On Fri, 11/19/10, paul

Re: OT Next time bring your friends

2010-11-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:31 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Being stupidly fearless isn't being brave Its a cat don;t forget. Dave On 11/18/2010 6:19 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I think Mike Johnson should get this link

Re: Thanks, and hold that thought . . .

2010-11-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A common doctor's type joke: Hey Mr.Patient - I have good news and bad news: Bad news is that you have cancer; good news is that you have prostate cancer. stan I';m sure all will go well. Dave On Nov 18,

Re: Boris PESO #50 - Moshe Aviv Tower

2010-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
I think it's a let's see what it looks like and what people think of it..kind of shot.(?) In my view, it fails to convey a point. :) Jack --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Boris PESO #50 - Moshe Aviv Tower

Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light

2010-11-19 Thread David J Brooks
Love the fence in this one. Good job. With quality like that shot, this film of which you speak may just catch on. Dave On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Was reworking some old files and decided to get a new scan of this northern California light. Shot,

Re: The Platinum Print Guy

2010-11-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: This is the guy who taught the workshop at the Heorge Eastman House That would be George Eastmen. Heorge was his little-known brother who invented the marshmallow. I thought that was Stay Puff

Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light

2010-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks much, Dave! I wish the film had come pre printed with a flight of Seagulls wheeling around the light under a dramatic sky. ;) Jack --- On Fri, 11/19/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Pigeon Point Light To:

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-19 Thread David Parsons
From my understanding, changing WB does nothing in hardware, rather it shifts colors based on what you tell the camera/software what WB to use. For example, with tungsten light, it will shift down the red, and shift up the blue to balance neutrals. The math is over my head, but there is a

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
Character-based languages are interesting. For example, there is a character for roof. Also a character for woman and pig. If you put the pig character under the roof character you have the word home. If you put the woman character under the roof character you have the word peace. If you put TWO

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 19 November 2010 15:21, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: Character-based languages are interesting. For example, there is a character for roof. Also a character for woman and pig. If you put the pig character under the roof character you have the word home. If you put the woman

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 18, 2010, at 21:12, Sandy Harris wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Seems that BaiJiu has a storied history in China. The description of this beverage as smelling/tasting like 'a cross between rubbing alcohol and diesel fuel' is not

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-19 Thread Miserere
On 19 November 2010 02:16, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Miserere wrote: On 18 November 2010 20:56, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Last night I tried a more rigorous test of photographing with and without a cokin blue filter on my camera.  I also

Re: digital bw

2010-11-19 Thread Miserere
On 19 November 2010 09:46, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Very true! I'd say it took me about a year to be completely comfortable making BW conversions that looked exactly like I wanted them to. Colin, I like me

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-19 Thread David Parsons
I always figured setting them to neutral/0 would have the least effect. Not that it really matters for Lightroom since it doesn't read any of those settings. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: You mentioned something about RAW histograms in your first post (or

Auto bracket setting doesn't persist

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Weir
When I set auto bracketing on my *ist DS the setting is not retained when the camera is turned off. I have to reset it every time I turn the camera on. A bit of a nuisance. Other functions set through the function menu do persist. Should this one? Is there a way to make it do so? I think

Re: Auto bracket setting doesn't persist

2010-11-19 Thread David Parsons
It doesn't on my K100D Super. It's a drive mode and that always get reset when the camera is turned off. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: When I set auto bracketing on my *ist DS the setting is not retained when the camera is turned off. I have to reset

Re: Auto bracket setting doesn't persist

2010-11-19 Thread paul stenquist
I've never owned an *istDS, but my Pentax DSLRs have a memory category in the menu, which allows you to select what things you want the camera to remember. Paul On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Eric Weir wrote: When I set auto bracketing on my *ist DS the setting is not retained when the

Re: OT Why did we not come up with these.

2010-11-19 Thread Madame RD
Le 19/11/10 00:02, David J Brooks a écrit : http://www.petapixel.com/2009/11/13/21-awesome-t-shirts-for-photographers/ There is a few here i might get. Dave great Tshirts :!!! bookmarked the site in my wannabuythem! file .. thanks for sharing . dominique -- PDML

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-19 Thread Cotty
I find that if I close my eyes the copyright symbol doesn't bother me. Stunning pics btw mate - at first I thought might be a bit too much contrast but actually I like them like that. Really impressive street work. x100 territory ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: Auto bracket setting doesn't persist

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:13 AM, paul stenquist wrote: I've never owned an *istDS, but my Pentax DSLRs have a memory category in the menu, which allows you to select what things you want the camera to remember. Thanks, Paul. I've looked around the menu for something like that. Don't think

Re: Auto bracket setting doesn't persist

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:11 AM, David Parsons wrote: It doesn't on my K100D Super. It's a drive mode and that always get reset when the camera is turned off. Thanks, David. As expected.Guess I'll have to learn to live with it.

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 19, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Miserere wrote: The closest you can get on your Pentax is to set your picture settings all the way to the left. Your camera previews will now look dull, but the histogram should be as close to RAW as you can get. What do you mean by my picture settings all the

Re: PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.4 AL lens test

2010-11-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Roman, I've FAJ 18-35 with plastic bayonet. I bought it in Norway back in 2006. It has seen certain use and I can see nothing happening to the bayonet. In fact, plastic bayonet does not trouble me at all given my experience with FAJ 18-35 lens. Boris On 11/19/2010 4:17 PM, Roman Melihhov

Re: Boris PESO #50 - Moshe Aviv Tower

2010-11-19 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/19/2010 4:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, Were you shooting thru a drawing on a glass window? The sky looks wonderful, but the drawing is a detriment. Regards, Bob S. You're right, Bob. That's exactly what I did. I tried to superimpose the sun on the drawing so that it might look

Re: Boris PESO #50 - Moshe Aviv Tower

2010-11-19 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/19/2010 4:58 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I think it's a let's see what it looks like and what people think of it..kind of shot.(?) In my view, it fails to convey a point. :) Jack I should say that my cell phone camera does not seem to have any adjustments whatsoever - just one button to take

Re: Boris PESO #50 - Moshe Aviv Tower

2010-11-19 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/19/2010 4:22 PM, paul stenquist wrote: The drawing on the window is fun. The city skyline from the roof appears to be good quality for a cellphone pic. Go back with your camera at dawn! Paul Thanks, Paul! You understood me and my intent exactly right. Surely I will be back there with my

PESO #51 - Miserere

2010-11-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-51-miserere.html Posted with the explicit permission of the (human) model. No Pentax cameras were harmed during the experiment :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but it seems to me that putting filters in front of the lens of a camera with a digital sensor in it is a bit silly especially for BW purposes. Your sensor is already filtering the light through three filters to achieve a red channel, a blue channel, and a

Re: PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.4 AL lens test

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Maas
There's only two issues with plastic bayonets. 1. They are far more likely to fail if any off-axis force is applied to the lens. I've seen quite a number of these, usually with kit zooms. This is not likely to be an issue with smaller primes like the DA L 35 though as there's much less of a

Re: digital bw

2010-11-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I apply filters in post, using a BW conversion plugin that I originally downloaded from a link at Mark Roberts software page. The whole procedure is rather simple. 1.) Make the best Color photo possible from file, using the raw converter. 2.) In the picture editing software tweak it if

Re: digital bw

2010-11-19 Thread paul stenquist
I used those filters at one time, but they're not compatible with later versions of PhotoShop. Plus the new BW conversion features of both PS and ACR allow more fine tuning than did the filters. Paul On Nov 19, 2010, at 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I apply filters in post, using a BW

Re: Filter experiment

2010-11-19 Thread John Francis
If you have infinite precision and/or infinite range on your sensor, you would be right. But if you're trying to get a usable amount of information from each of the channels you want to have reasonably similar range on each one; you don't want one channel squashed down into just four bits of

A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
A conversation in another thread brought to my attention a big 'ol copyright image, designed to be nearly impossible to remove and even more impossible to miss. Frankly, when I see this sort of behavior, I see the C to stand for Clueless rather than Copyright. I would suggest that people who do

OT superhero grandma photos

2010-11-19 Thread Larry Colen
Nice photos, and if they don't bring at least the trace of a smile to your lips you need some therapy of your own: http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/grandmas-superhero-therapy-18 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Auto bracket setting doesn't persist

2010-11-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've never owned an *istDS, but my Pentax DSLRs have a memory category in the menu, which allows you to select what things you want the camera to remember. Paul I'm still looking for the menu preset that pops up

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread David J Brooks
I used to put a big 'ol copyright statement on my thumbs to deter theft, but all they did was take the 640x480 thumbs, blow them up to 8x10 and print them out, with the copyright. Used to see them all over the horse show venues at the stalls. Dave On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM, CheekyGeek

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread David Parsons
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I would suggest that people who do this do not truly understand the concept of copyright. Only the smallest and most unobtrusive copyright mark is needed to fulfill the legal obligation of notification/claim as seen on

OT: National Geographic's Photography Contest 2010

2010-11-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/11/national_geographics_photograp.html Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Auto bracket setting doesn't persist

2010-11-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:08 -0500, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: When I set auto bracketing on my *ist DS the setting is not retained when the camera is turned off. I have to reset it every time I turn the camera on. A bit of a nuisance. Other functions set through the function menu

RE: The Platinum Print Guy

2010-11-19 Thread Bob W
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: This is the guy who taught the workshop at the Heorge Eastman House That would be George Eastmen. Heorge was his little-known brother who invented the marshmallow. I thought that was Stay

Re: OT: National Geographic's Photography Contest 2010

2010-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
This is great..Thanks! Did you ever receive my Yellowbook email? How about my earlier email which you said you had taken a quick look at on your phone, but wanted to take a better look on your laptop? Jack --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J.

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:50 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: While you are technically correct, filing a copyright lawsuit is ridiculously expensive and takes years in court to pursue.  And while you can get statutory damages if you promptly file for registration, if someone

Re: The Platinum Print Guy

2010-11-19 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: This is the guy who taught the workshop at the Heorge Eastman House That would be George Eastmen. Heorge was his little-known brother who invented the marshmallow. I thought that

Oh frabjous day

2010-11-19 Thread Larry Colen
My FA31 has come galumphing home. A few weeks ago I went to use it, and felt some grit in the focusing mechanism. Fortunately, I had the sense to put it away, and not use it anyways. I sent it off to criscam, and it came back fairly promptly. The cost was $73 for cleaning and servicing plus

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Darren, That all sounds good in theory, I trust what Dave Brooks has to say about it in practice. Collecting is very impractical... Don't put anything on the WWW you aren't willing to give away. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov

Re: Oh frabjous day

2010-11-19 Thread Matthew Montgomery
I've not head of criscam before but are they generally preferred over sending something into Pextax directly for repair? I recall Pentax U.S. contracted out there repair services somewhat recently. On 11/19/10 2:03 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: My FA31 has come galumphing home. A few

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread David Parsons
Okay, say Microsoft (for whatever reason) decides to infringe on your copyright and use it. Who is going to last longer, you or Microsoft? It's all about paying for your legal fees. Just because you are in the clear and everything is on your side does not mean that you have any chance in hell

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
Well, I can assure you it goes well beyond theory, and that it is anything but impractical, but I see no benefit to myself in doing any further convincing on the subject. Closed minds are a powerful thing. Suffice it to say that this thread is (empirically) the most financially invaluable (and

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Larry Colen
There's an old saying that locks only keep out honest people. At the risk of turning the greasy spot that used to be a horse into a smoking hole, I'll weigh in with some thoughts. First of all, in theory, theory and practice are the same. It is legally and morally wrong to duplicate and use

Re: OT: National Geographic's Photography Contest 2010

2010-11-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I think that was someone else, Jack. I looked at your Yellowbook cover, and the original image, and commented on it, but I am not the one who looked at it on a phone. I remember that comment, but not who made it. Dan On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: This

PESO: Cormorant Vigil

2010-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
While I must have missed the burst of significance that Cormorants ignited some time ago, I'm joining the excitement by offering a Northern CA pair. (I think that's what these things are).(?) It's a gray sort of morning with a bit of very fine mist. Real soaker is predicted for the next couple

Re: K-7 K-5 samples at iso 100

2010-11-19 Thread P. J. Alling
You have to disable dynamic range extension, (Just like the K20D). On 11/16/2010 6:22 AM, Tanya Love wrote: I've read through this entire thread and I am completely confused here. How can this be? Unless I am doing something relly wrong, my K-7 only goes down to iso200? Tan.x.

Re: PESO #51 - Miserere

2010-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
3D image? ;) Jack --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: PESO #51 - Miserere To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, November 19, 2010, 9:33 AM Hi!

RE: The Platinum Print Guy

2010-11-19 Thread Bob W
This is the guy who taught the workshop at the Heorge Eastman House That would be George Eastmen. Heorge was his little-known brother who invented the marshmallow. I thought that was Stay Puff Eastman. you're confusing the Eastmans with the Yeastmans. Candida Yeastman? famous for

Re: OT: National Geographic's Photography Contest 2010

2010-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
This connection doesn't make any sense to me either. NEVER MIND!! Jack --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: National Geographic's Photography Contest 2010 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday,

Re: Thanks, and hold that thought . . .

2010-11-19 Thread eckinator
Wishes stuffed back into that warm cozy place I call my heart and placed on call for you =) 2010/11/19 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: Thanks for the good wishes, on and off list. Surgery postponed for now, last minute family emergency and the surgeon headed home to Lebanon. So I am

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-11-19 10:21, CheekyGeek wrote: Perhaps this much Chinese should be taught in all schools? : ) I think it would be better to teach enough Engrish so that we could actually communicate with the folks in the customer support call center when something goes wrong with our consumer

Re: PESO -- East River (Fall 2010)

2010-11-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd like to thank everyone who commented on this. It's nice that so many people actually liked it. I didn't think it was a really strong image, and thought that the this one which I posted just a bit later was much better. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20scenicroad.html

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
Infringers enrich Copyright-smart Photographers. Google Flickr (along with the rest of the internet) make infringing simple. That's good for Copyright-smart Photographers. They also make catching infringers pretty simple, because most of them are clueless. While it may be counter-intuitive,

Re: digital bw

2010-11-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I used that method to create this BW image from my last years contirbution to the annual. It's a new BW rendering as I couldn't find the earlier example I created, and is probably a bit less dramatic. I chose to use the Yellow filter to keep the tones as close to the color original as

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-11-19 13:11, CheekyGeek wrote: Frankly, when I see this sort of behavior, I see the C to stand for Clueless rather than Copyright. I would suggest that people who do this do not truly understand the concept of copyright. Only the smallest and most unobtrusive copyright mark is needed

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
Assuming you mean teach the Chinese English, you haven't met many Chinese students. They all learn English starting in elementary school and continue learning it through university. Some are better than others, of course. But people who live in glass houses... The old joke is: What do you call

Re: digital bw

2010-11-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Hum, for a better comparison, you probably would want to see it on it's web page... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20surfclubmadisonctbwyellow.html On 11/19/2010 4:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I used that method to create this BW image from my last years contirbution to the

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:45 -0800, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: There's an old saying that locks only keep out honest people. At the risk of turning the greasy spot that used to be a horse into a smoking hole, I'll weigh in with some thoughts. First of all, in theory, theory and

RE: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Bob W
Okay, say Microsoft (for whatever reason) decides to infringe on your copyright and use it. Who is going to last longer, you or Microsoft? It's all about paying for your legal fees. Just because you are in the clear and everything is on your side does not mean that you have any chance in

Re: PESO -- East River (Fall 2010)

2010-11-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
More to the point, what the hell do WE know? Honestly, sometimes I like an image, but I am just too busy to reply and tell the photographer so. At other times, when I am not rushed, I may comment on ones that I like, but not as much as the one I neglected. My bad, but to some extent, human

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-11-19 15:21, David Parsons wrote: Who is going to last longer, you or Microsoft? It's all about paying for your legal fees. Just because you are in the clear and everything is on your side does not mean that you have any chance in hell of actually winning. And even if you win, the

Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?

2010-11-19 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-11-19 16:09, CheekyGeek wrote: Assuming you mean teach the Chinese English, you haven't met many Not English, EngRish. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Oh frabjous day

2010-11-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 19, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: I've not head of criscam before but are they generally preferred over sending something into Pextax directly for repair? I recall Pentax U.S. contracted out there repair services somewhat recently. They are the official Pentax repair

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: There's an old saying that locks only keep out honest people. At the risk of turning the greasy spot that used to be a horse into a smoking hole, I'll weigh in with some thoughts. First of all, in theory, theory and practice are the same. It is legally and morally wrong to

Re: Oh frabjous day

2010-11-19 Thread Matthew Montgomery
On 11/19/10 3:17 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 19, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Matthew Montgomery wrote: I've not head of criscam before but are they generally preferred over sending something into Pextax directly for repair? I recall Pentax U.S. contracted out there repair

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: That's pretty much how I work things. A few weeks ago I attended a seminar on copyright held by the American Society of Media Photographers (ASMP), so let's clear up a few misconceptions about copyright that have been

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 04:19:55PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: But if you don't *register* your copyright with the copyright office, you can't (in the U.S. anyway) take an infringer to court. That's not my understanding. If you don't register the copyright, you can't have an action brought

Re: digital bw

2010-11-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:07 -0500, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Hum, for a better comparison, you probably would want to see it on it's web page... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20surfclubmadisonctbwyellow.html I've used that filter occasionally too, but

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 04:19:55PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: But if you don't *register* your copyright with the copyright office, you can't (in the U.S. anyway) take an infringer to court. That's not my understanding. If you don't register the copyright, you can't have

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: I went to a talk once by Philip Jones-Griffiths, Magnum photographer famous for his book Vietnam, Inc. The film Apocalypse Now! ripped the book of quite comprehensively. In particular, there is a scene where a VC soldier is dying in the arms of some GI, having fought on with his guts

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Mark Roberts
CheekyGeek wrote: there are specific ADDITIONAL penalties that the infringer puts themself in line for if they (for example) remove or crop out your copyright notice on their use of the infringed image. More leverage for your side. Oh yes indeed. Adding a copyright mark isn't necessary or

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 November 2010 08:31, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps now that Mark has said it some will stop their inadequate arguments. : ) Whatever the legal arguments I'd bet that very few stock image library sites would prosper if they didn't apply obscuring copyright watermarks

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: CheekyGeek wrote: there are specific ADDITIONAL penalties that the infringer puts themself in line for if they (for example) remove or crop out your copyright notice on their use of the infringed image. More leverage for

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
So tell us how much you've collected and from who... :-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:26 PM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I can assure you it goes well beyond theory, and that it is anything but impractical, but I see no benefit to myself in doing any further

Re: Auto bracket setting doesn't persist

2010-11-19 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 19, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Brian Walters wrote: More recent Pentax DSLRs (eg the K200D) have a 'Memory' function in the 'Rec. Mode' menu that allows you to set certain features to persist after the camera is switched off. This includes the Drive Mode, so you can retain the bracketing

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread steve harley
On 2010-11-19 14:45 , Rob Studdert wrote: Realistically you have to assume that if you place an image in the public domain it will be copied regardless of the laws governing copyright and the cost of utilizing the laws protecting copyright might well negate their worth. i suspect you didn't

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert wrote: Whatever the legal arguments I'd bet that very few stock image library sites would prosper if they didn't apply obscuring copyright watermarks (which nearly all do). Funny, but I disagree; I think they would have no fewer paying customers if they didn't watermark their images

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
It is a close relative that educated me on this subject. He's out-earning my annual salary with this revenue stream alone. I'm just getting started...but I wouldn't share figures or names, regardless (his or mine). : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Bob Sullivan

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 November 2010 08:58, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-11-19 14:45 , Rob Studdert wrote: Realistically you have to assume that if you place an image in the public domain it will be copied regardless of the laws governing copyright and the cost of utilizing the laws

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread Mark Roberts
I just found the SAMP Copyright tutorial is online *and* viewable by non-members: http://asmp.org/tutorials/copyright-overview.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: A small rant on obtrusive copyright marks.

2010-11-19 Thread CheekyGeek
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I make all my images available under Creative Commons Attribution/Non-Commercial/No-Derivatives license. Anyone is free to use them for non-profit purposes. I think this is just an acknowledgement of the reality you

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