Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread John Mullan
My first was a Kodak Brownie Holiday. Received it for Christmas in 1954-1955 timeframe. In 61-62 timeframe I upgraded to a Kodak Brownie Super 27. Shot a lot of Super slides with that one. '69 brought my first Pentax, H1a. Later added an SPII, then a PZ1p, a 645, *istD and most recently

Re: PESO: White evergreen

2011-04-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-04-13 4:02 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Outside of my usual visual vocabulary: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/04/13/-big/RUNE0018.jpg.html Might make a nice poster for an ultra-postmodern downtown apartment... -Tim *Very* nice, Tim. The reduced contrast and muted palette work well.

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/13/2011 9:39 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ Someone needs to introduce that guy to the concept of the paragraph. I'll do

PESO: Curious Gull

2011-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=588 K-5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/8000, ISO 1600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: White evergreen

2011-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Interesting effect, Tim! Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com Subject: PESO: White evergreen To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 1:02 PM Outside of my usual visual vocabulary:

Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Zalabai
Zeiss Ikonta C 521/2 :) I still love that 'pocket camera' :D .t On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 09:32 -0400, Bill Owens wrote: In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-04-13 16:49, Peter Zalabai wrote: Zeiss Ikonta C 521/2 :) I still love that 'pocket camera' :D .t On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 09:32 -0400, Bill Owens wrote: In my case, it was a Brownie Hawkeye with flash that used Press 25 bulbs My mom's Kodak Instamatic with 126 film. -- Thanks, DougF

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-04-13 14:25, Bob W wrote: Erwin Puts hardly ever writes anything worth reading, paragraphs or not. Har! I didn't even notice that! I'd change my name! -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Nook color as a photo viewer

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
Zab returned from her three month sojourn in Sleepy Hollow. While she was there she bought a nook color for her aging mom to use, as it is getting difficult for her to read regular print. In the process of using it for a few days so she could show her mom how to use it, she became so fond of

RE: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Bob W
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I have more than a little temptation to comment on how his essay has provoked an interesting discussion on snob appeal vs. talent, or at least to challenge him to a photo competition, my 64 year old, unadjusted Argus C3 brick against his Leica M3.

PESO: A Typical Restart

2011-04-13 Thread Cory Waters
The family and I went to the IndyCar race at Barber Motorsports Park in Birmingham, Alabama last weekend. I was more about hanging with my unit than getting the shot but there are a few that I'm willing to share. Here is a shot from turn 1 during a restart:

Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread steve harley
On 2011-04-12 12:31 , they whom i call myself wrote: despite hanging around my father's darkroom when i was very young, i got a late start; the first i owned was a K1000 my stepfather gave me when i was about 15, but because i couldn't afford film he eventually gave it to someone else all the

Re: PESO: A Typical Restart

2011-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Great location choice. Nice action! Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net Subject: PESO: A Typical Restart To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 2:28 PM The family and I went to the

RE: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
An awful Zenit E(T?) at age 12. I had loads of fun but I also abandoned photography for ten years after just one year with the Zenit. Good times. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions

2011-04-13 Thread Rick Womer
It's too much of a jumble to work for me, Boris. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April

Re: Nook color as a photo viewer

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Zab returned from her three month sojourn in Sleepy Hollow. While she was there she bought a nook color for her aging mom to use, as it is getting difficult for her to read regular print. In the process of using it for a few days so she

Re: PESO -- Before the Storm

2011-04-13 Thread Rick Womer
I think the rain curtains stand out more clearly in the color version. Darkening the sky a bit might make things look more ominous. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 4/13/11, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject:

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 13, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Bob W wrote: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I have more than a little temptation to comment on how his essay has provoked an interesting discussion on snob appeal vs. talent, or at least to challenge him to a photo competition, my 64 year old,

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Dario Bonazza
Larry Colen wrote: My C3 does have one significant advantage of over an M3. I have a C3 and not an M3. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I have more than a little temptation to comment on how his essay has provoked an interesting discussion on snob appeal vs. talent, or at least to challenge him to a photo competition, my 64 year old, unadjusted Argus C3 brick against

Re: PESO: A Typical Restart

2011-04-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/4/11, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: The family and I went to the IndyCar race at Barber Motorsports Park in Birmingham, Alabama last weekend. I was more about hanging with my unit than getting the shot but there are a few that I'm willing to share. Here is a shot from turn 1

RE: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts I can categorically assure you that the M3 is better than the Argus in all respects expect brickiness. Where do you stand on the Porsche vs. Dodge Van question? behind

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread David Parsons
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: While it is true that the sensor may have a limited lifespan, how long does he really expect to be using his camera?  You have to move on at some point. Why? That's just a justification for built-in obsolescence to satisfy

RE: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions

2011-04-13 Thread Bob W
It looks like Pollocks. http://www.tate.org.uk/liverpool/ima/rm4/images/pollock_lg.jpg I like it. It's too much of a jumble to work for me, Boris. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman

Re: PESO: Curious Gull

2011-04-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Very nice gull! Well framed (cropped?). On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the curious tilt of the head. Fun at the lake. The sun was in and out and I may have out exposed the shutter a wee bit. heck! Comments encourages. Jack

Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: No.  I read it on my desktop and laptop with a free Firefox plug-in. Dan I see quite a few out there. Any link to the one you are using. Dave On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com

RE: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Parsons While it is true that the sensor may have a limited lifespan, how long does he really expect to be using his camera?  You have to move on at some point. Why?

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html Puts is a Leica guy but they used to say that Pentax is the Japanese Leica...

Re: Some thoughts on my first PDML annual purchase...

2011-04-13 Thread David Parsons
1-3. Mark is the one doing all the hard work, and as the editor, layout designer, and everything else, it's his call as to how things are laid out. He volunteers a lot of his own limited time for the group. 4. The annual is not a competition, it's a showcase of members who decide to submit.

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Dario Bonazza
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: LOL ... I have never heard Pentax referred to as the Japanese Leica. That was commonly reported from Japan around 1976, soon after the introduction of the MX. Some Japanese folks perceived the MX as the new Leica: small, basic, smooth and pleasant to use. In other

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: LOL ... I have never heard Pentax referred to as the Japanese Leica. That was commonly reported from Japan around 1976, soon after the introduction of the MX. Some Japanese folks perceived

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I have more than a little temptation to comment on how his essay has provoked an interesting discussion on snob appeal vs. talent, or at least to challenge him to a photo

Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-13 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:20 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: No.  I read it on my desktop and laptop with a free Firefox plug-in. Dan I see quite a few out there. Any link to the one you are

Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:52 -0500, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Voigtlander Bessamatic with a 50mm lens. SLR with leaf shutter. Learned a lot in a hurry. I was 15. A Bessamatic at the age of 15! Did you have a fairy godmother?? In my manic collecting phase a few

Re: PESO: Curious Gull

2011-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, cropped. (About 50%) Thankk you, Stan! Jack) --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Subject: Re: PESO: Curious Gull To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 3:14 PM Very nice

Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:19 -0500, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: In 1966, I purchased a brand new Pentax Spotmatic, and my fate was sealed. A year later I bought a black Spotty, a couple more M-42 lenses.

Re: Some thoughts on my first PDML annual purchase...

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
I'm looking at the ebook, and finding it a vast source of frustration with ebook readers. On the nook, I can't rotate the book so I'm seeing a horizontally formatted book on a vertically formatted screen. In neither the nook, nor Adobe Digital Editions on my mac can I adjust the size of the

RE: PESO: Curious Gull

2011-04-13 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Nice capture of the gull... all the tones and colors are spot on... ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread mike wilson
On 14/04/2011 01:01, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Where do you stand on the Porsche vs. Dodge Van question? The first time I drove a Dodge van on the track, I was turning faster laptimes in my van than I had been in my Corolla. I was also turning

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I have more than a little temptation to comment on how his essay has provoked an interesting discussion on snob appeal vs.

RE: PESO: Red Sunset

2011-04-13 Thread Jeffery Johnson
It certainly is red... and well now be nice to be on the beach seeing the sunset in person. ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net

RE: PESO: They Call him a Cooper's Hawk

2011-04-13 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Thanks for all the comments on the Hawk photos. Yes it was actually surprising to see him. I am still keeping an eye out for the crane that I saw the first visit to the greenway. ___ Pictures that I have taken on Flickr:

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Jim King
Larry Colen wrote on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:18:16 -0700 (snip) I can't help but wonder if Pentax owners have a similar reputation for annoyingly bragging about how our cameras perform as well, or better, than other brands, but cost so much less. Hah! I was hoping that someone other than me

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Jim King
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:25:25 -0700 LOL ... I have never heard Pentax referred to as the Japanese Leica. I read it somewhere, probably Modern Photography way back in the day when Herbert Keppler was still active. Leica is most reknowned for its lenses and rangefinder

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Well, one problem with his arguments is figuring out what the hell his arguments are. Numbers aren't everything? Absolutely. Any numbers in particular or are we just generally embracing innumeracy? And what precisely does this have to do with his old Leica? There were good lenses in the

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sigh. Make that made without computer help. It's hard to find reading glasses that focus well for me on computer screens. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:     Well, one problem with his arguments is figuring out what the hell his arguments are.  

Re: PESO: A Typical Restart

2011-04-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Great shot. Wish I'd been there. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/4/11, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: The family and I went to the IndyCar race at Barber Motorsports Park in Birmingham, Alabama last weekend.  I was more about hanging with my unit

Re: PESO: A Typical Restart

2011-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
A very nice composition, with a lot of interesting action. Paul On Apr 13, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Great shot. Wish I'd been there. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/4/11, Cory Waters, discombobulated, unleashed: The family and I went

RE: PESO: Curious Gull

2011-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Jeff! There is a bit of bloom on the head due to slight over exposure. Not a lot, but I would rather it not be there. Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net Subject: RE: PESO: Curious Gull

Re: PESO: A Typical Restart

2011-04-13 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 05:28:57PM -0400, Cory Waters wrote: The family and I went to the IndyCar race at Barber Motorsports Park in Birmingham, Alabama last weekend. I was more about hanging with my unit than getting the shot but there are a few that I'm willing to share. Here is a shot

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread steve harley
On 2011-04-12 20:58 , Jim King wrote: This blog post by Erwin Puts rang a few bells for me, and I suspect it will for some of you as well: http://www.imx.nl/photo/page152/page152.html\ okay -- i'll bite; i find Erwin Puts' essay to wishy-washy; it's internally contradictory; he seems to

Glasses [Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism]

2011-04-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-04-13 8:39 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Sigh. Make that made without computer help. It's hard to find reading glasses that focus well for me on computer screens. Don't bother -- get two pairs of glasses: readers and computer. That's what I concluded and it works well. Reading glasses

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread drd1135
I forgot Bob's comment about Gallia. Thanks for pointing that out. -Original Message- From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:22:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject:

Re: Some thoughts on my first PDML annual purchase...

2011-04-13 Thread Tim Bray
The eBook totally doesn't work for me on my Mac's screen, the pix are way too small and there's some sort of grain effect in whatever the default eBook reading program was. I've got a new Moto Xoom tablet that has 3 different programs that claim to read eBooks but so far I can't figure out how to

Re: Glasses [Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism]

2011-04-13 Thread drd1135
Are there monitor glasses? -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:25:06 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Glasses [Re: Some thought on

RE: PESO: Curious Gull

2011-04-13 Thread Jeffery Johnson
It isn't too bad Jack -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: PESO: Curious Gull Thanks, Jeff! There is a bit of bloom on the head due to

Re: Glasses [Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism]

2011-04-13 Thread Bruce Walker
Yes, in the following sense. My optometrist asks me what my intended use for the glasses is, I say computer monitor, he gets me to sit in front of an LCD monitor as I would normally, measures distances and adjusts the prescription accordingly. Voila! monitor glasses. I did have to change

First-camera follow-up; pictures taken with it?

2011-04-13 Thread Tim Bray
My first, as I noted, was a Balda Baldini, inherited from my Dad when he got into Pentax. I don't have any pix I took with it, but I do have some that he did, dating all the way back to 1953. I think some here might enjoy them, and I'd enjoy seeing anyone else's first-camera pix. Baldini Sunset

Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun

2011-04-13 Thread Tim Bray
So graceful! -T On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Forgive the creative spelling.(?) Comments? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=587 K-5, DA 16~45@20mm, 1/1600, ISO 800, laying on the ground in a neighborhood park. -- PDML

Re: Glasses [Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism]

2011-04-13 Thread drd1135
I've been trying to do this myself with cheap readers with mixed success. I guess I may need a pro. -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:37:16 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To:

RE: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread John Coyle
Aaaargh - trust Bob to turn it around! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2011 4:59 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: What was your first camera? John

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread William Robb
On 13/04/2011 12:36 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: While it would be nice for a camera to last forever, I don't see much to complain about in relation to the days of film. My K10D is 4 years old. It still works fine. I want a K-5,

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread William Robb
On 13/04/2011 1:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: MARK! On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: The stereotypical Leica owner does have a reputation for being a Puts, though it's usually spelled a little differently. Please no. I just read the online version of

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread William Robb
On 13/04/2011 2:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I can't help but wonder if Pentax owners have a similar reputation for annoyingly bragging about how our cameras perform as well, or better, than other brands, but cost so much less. Just the lenses. The bodies are, for the most part, pretty

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, what have you spent on computers, storage media and software (be honest, what would you have spent if you hadn't stolen your software, for example) I'm a computer geek. Photo editing is not the

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread William Robb
On 13/04/2011 8:18 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: I'm a computer geek. Photo editing is not the driver of my hardware purchases; my old Athlon 64 ran Bibble just fine. My marginal cost has been Bibble Lite at $99 and IMatch at whatever it cost ($100), four years ago when I bought my K10D. I'm likely

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:33 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: I would say you are the exception, not the rule. I would say that you are older than I am. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, That is the one I am using. I got the link from the discussions here. Dan On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:20 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola

Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun

2011-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Tim! A lot to be said for clean and simple. Jack --- On Wed, 4/13/11, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com Subject: Re: PESO: Poppy and Sun To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 6:40 PM So graceful!  -T On

Re: PESO: Red Sunset

2011-04-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
In Maui, most people stop what they are doing and go to look at the sunset. We often take a glass of wine to toast the setting sun. This sun is a bit redder than most, because on that evening the trade winds were off, allowing the volcanic dust, ash and gases from the Big Island to add some

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:33 PM, William Robb wrote: On 13/04/2011 8:18 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: I'm a computer geek. Photo editing is not the driver of my hardware purchases; my old Athlon 64 ran Bibble just fine. My marginal cost has been Bibble Lite at $99 and IMatch at whatever it cost

Re: Glasses [Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism]

2011-04-13 Thread steve harley
On 2011-04-13 19:44 , drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to do this myself with cheap readers with mixed success. I guess I may need a pro. i use 1.25 regular readers (which i even need for distance viewing), but i prefer 1.50 for my computer displays (which are more than an arm's

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/13/2011 5:14 PM, Bob W wrote: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I have more than a little temptation to comment on how his essay has provoked an interesting discussion on snob appeal vs. talent, or at least to challenge him to a photo competition, my 64 year old, unadjusted Argus

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Stan Halpin
On Apr 13, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Jim King wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:25:25 -0700 [Much commentary clipped from the original] Equipment cannot make photographs. Only people can. People with eyes, sensitivity, and skill to know how to work the equipment. Truly

Re: Glasses [Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism]

2011-04-13 Thread Stan Halpin
On Apr 13, 2011, at 11:01 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2011-04-13 19:44 , drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to do this myself with cheap readers with mixed success. I guess I may need a pro. i use 1.25 regular readers (which i even need for distance viewing), but i prefer 1.50 for

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Jim King wrote: Larry Colen wrote on Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:18:16 -0700 (snip) I can't help but wonder if Pentax owners have a similar reputation for annoyingly bragging about how our cameras perform as well, or better, than other brands, but cost so much

Re: Glasses [Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism]

2011-04-13 Thread steve harley
On 2011-04-13 21:29 , Stan Halpin wrote: On Apr 13, 2011, at 11:01 PM, steve harley wrote: i use 1.25 regular readers (which i even need for distance viewing), but i prefer 1.50 for my computer displays (which are more than an arm's length away) and especially for reading my iPhone Are you

Re: Any PDML folks near Northridge, CA?

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Cory Waters wrote: Looks like I'm going out to visit the folks at JBL in Northridge CA next week. I should have some evening time available. Anybody out that way? Not quite, but a photographer friend in Reseda has been bugging me to visit her. Cory --

Re: Some thought on Craftsmanship vs. Professionalism

2011-04-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-04-13 23:39, Larry Colen wrote: Actually, I'm a little disappointed that so much of the commentary on this post has centered on form rather than substance... I think that in large part this is because the post itself was more about form than substance. He was lauding the

Re: What was your first camera?

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
My 1st camera was Kodak instamatic at the age of 10. I took lots of pictures with it, but I was always so disappointed with them. They seldom matched the image I had visualized. This led to frustration, and I really didn't know how to learn about what I wanted to do. But the love of

Re: PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Dave, DagT, Bulent, Steve! Much appreciated. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 3:27 PM Subject: Re: PAW--Week 14--Urban Fog On 2011-04-10 17:09 , Christine

Re: First-camera follow-up; pictures taken with it?

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 13, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Tim Bray wrote: My first, as I noted, was a Balda Baldini, inherited from my Dad when he got into Pentax. I don't have any pix I took with it, but I do have some that he did, dating all the way back to 1953. I think some here might enjoy them, and I'd enjoy

Re: PAW66 - Spring fog

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Pretty cool, DagT. Oh, so, minimal! :-) Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: DagT li...@thrane.name To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 11:36 AM Subject: Re: PAW66 - Spring fog Yes, waiting for the ice to break :-) Den 11. apr.

Re: OT What was your first editing program

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
I started out with some Microsoft thing when I was shooting with a point and shoot. Then with the K10D, I switched to Elements 5, which I still have and use, mainly for serious cloning. From there it was Lightroom--it's wonderful! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From:

Re: OT Stanley Kubrick's Chicago 1949

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
pretty cool. Thanks for posting. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 8:56 PM Subject: OT Stanley Kubrick's Chicago 1949 “Before he started making movies, Stanley

Re: Enablement- upgrades...

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Big congrats, Bong! Looking forward to seeing the pictures. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:37 AM Subject: Enablement- upgrades... Finally upgraded my

Re: Wood Ducks

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
I like #5 best! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:09 PM Subject: GESO: Wood Ducks I spent a couple of days in Cleveland with my brother last week. Here are a

I found the cormorants

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
Some cormorants are more obvious than others. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Roller Derby

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Good stuff, Phil. Really like the single-skater shots. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Phil Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:20 AM Subject: GESO: Roller Derby Took the K-5 and DA*50-135

Re: White evergreen

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
I like it, Tim. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:02 PM Subject: PESO: White evergreen Outside of my usual visual vocabulary:

Re: PESO: Black Cat on Frozen Lake

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
On 3/17/2011 09:19, Bulent Celasun wrote: From a recent trip to easternmost Turkey. http://500px.com/photo/437321 Interesting! That's very DagTish. The picture honors your photographic skill and vision pays homage to our Dag T! :-) Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO - Chilly Chess

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:04 AM Subject: RE: PESO - Chilly Chess From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer On a cool November

Re: Nook color as a photo viewer

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Loveday
I installed CyanogenMod 7 on my Nook Colour. Turns it into a fully functional Android (Gingerbread) tablet. Then you can choose what picture viewer/reader/etc you want to use... - Peter -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO -- Before the Storm

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
I like it and prefer the color version. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:33 PM Subject: PESO -- Before the Storm Just popping in to post a quick PESO,

Re: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
That's interesting, Boris! I like it. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:48 AM Subject: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions Hi there. Here is another one somewhat

Re: Curious Gull

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Great tilt of the head, Jack. Nice catch. Yields a nice animal expression. Crop is a little tight for my eye. Would prefer a bit more space around the wing span. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: PDML Book is live online and available for purchase

2011-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Looks great, Mark. Thanks for all the effort and hard work. Big thanks to your team as well. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:18 AM Subject: PDML Book is live

Re: Boris PESO #9 - Impressions

2011-04-13 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Bob W wrote: It looks like Pollocks. http://www.tate.org.uk/liverpool/ima/rm4/images/pollock_lg.jpg Never mind the Pollocks! I like it. It's too much of a jumble to work for me, Boris. It took me a moment to figure out why the tree was not blurry, yet

Re: GESO: when two worlds meet...

2011-04-13 Thread Subash
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:57:05 +0300 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing! thanks for looking Boris, appreciate it... :) -- regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: GESO: when two worlds meet...

2011-04-13 Thread Subash
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:04:22 -0400 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing, well done. thanks Dave -- regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

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