Cold Weather Photography

2011-10-27 Thread Bipin Gupta
Can some kind soul translate this article in english so that all of us can enjoy it. We know Italian is a beautiful sounding language as are Italian girls. The image posted here show magazine pages in Italian:- http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/10/published-in-italy.html Thanks. Bipin. -- PDML

Re: Shameless plug

2011-10-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 10/26/2011 09:33, AlunFoto wrote: Hi gang, Dario did an interview with me in April, for an article on cold weather photography. IIRC, I'm the third PDML'er to be interviewed, the others being Tanya Love and Paul Stenquist. The other day I received a few copies of the

Re: Cold Weather Photography

2011-10-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
Perhaps something can be done, stay tuned :-) Dario - Original Message - From: Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: alunf...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:03 AM Subject: Cold Weather Photography Can some kind soul translate this article in english so

Re: Cold Weather Photography

2011-10-27 Thread Larry Colen
On 10/27/2011 1:03 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Perhaps something can be done, stay tuned :-) Cool! You know someone who speaks both Italian and English who can translate it? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: GESO AstroTracer first try

2011-10-27 Thread Toine
The aperture was 3.5 on that photo. I suspect the aperture blades are the cause for the spikes. Even without the astrotracer it's very funny to watch jupiter and it's moons on the cam in zoomed live view. The idea I now have a complete telescope in my camera bag is amazing. Even with a 50 mm I

Re: PAW94 - Waterfall

2011-10-27 Thread DagT
Sorry :-) Actually I find it interesting and inspiring to see how different people can see and photograph the same object or situation. DagT Den 25. okt. 2011 kl. 06:08 skrev P. J. Alling: Dag, you're really making me doubt my own imagination and my skill. On 10/23/2011 2:10 PM, DagT

Re: PAW94 - Waterfall

2011-10-27 Thread DagT
Thanks Tim, and Christine and Bulent. I see what you mean Tim, I´m a little tired of the soft water myself. At 1/20s the water got direction, but didn´t soft. DagT Den 24. okt. 2011 kl. 08:25 skrev Tim Bray: One thing I particularly like is that it doesn't resort to that fakey long-exposure

Re: Cold Weather Photography

2011-10-27 Thread David Parsons
Look at his email address... On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 10/27/2011 1:03 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Perhaps something can be done, stay tuned :-) Cool!  You know someone who speaks both Italian and English who can translate it? -- Larry Colen

Re: PESO - Morning Calm Part II (a tale of two photos)

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:15 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Taken about 15 minutes earlier than Morning Calm, from a slightly different vantage point, this was the one I thought would be the keeper at the time I took it. I thought the kayak made for a much more

Re: PESO: Money Maker

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:45 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Picked up my 4 images from a recent gallery showing (my 'Joisey Shore' was selected for a 2nd place in the color category - posted awhile back - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14181152) and was pleased to learn

Re: PESO - Boise Aurora

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:11 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14474813 Probably needed to have stepped outside 10 minutes earlier. Maybe so, but it's a stunning image regardless. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters

Re: Cold Weather Photography

2011-10-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Larry seems to be quite the sarcastic guy... On 10/27/2011 7:20 AM, David Parsons wrote: Look at his email address... On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com wrote: On 10/27/2011 1:03 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Perhaps something can be done, stay tuned :-) Cool! You

PPG - Image Display Issue

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Walters
I suppose all of these posts on the 'new' Pentax Gallery are getting a bit boring. But what the hell... I don't know if anyone else has noticed this but when looking through my gallery, I've noticed that the images look quite soft - certainly more so that I remember from the 'old' PPG. After

Option WG-1

2011-10-27 Thread Doug Franklin
BJs Wholesale Club is advertising the Option WG-1 camera in this week's flyer for $249.99, $50 off their regular price, if anyone is looking for one. I don't know if that's nationwide or just my locality (Atlanta metro). I can't really tell whether they customized the email flyers. -- Doug

Re: Option WG-1

2011-10-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Shouldn't that be Optio? And Lefty? On 10/27/2011 8:32 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: BJs Wholesale Club is advertising the Option WG-1 camera in this week's flyer for $249.99, $50 off their regular price, if anyone is looking for one. I don't know if that's nationwide or just my locality

Re: PPG - Image Display Issue

2011-10-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-10-27 8:30 AM, Brian Walters wrote: I suppose all of these posts on the 'new' Pentax Gallery are getting a bit boring. But what the hell... I don't know if anyone else has noticed this but when looking through my gallery, I've noticed that the images look quite soft - certainly more so

Re: Option WG-1

2011-10-27 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-10-27 8:45, P. J. Alling wrote: Shouldn't that be Optio? And Lefty? Yep, programmer's fingers converted it to Option. :-) And Lefty is from NutDriver Racing ... I'm the left nut. On 10/27/2011 8:32 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: BJs Wholesale Club is advertising the Option WG-1 camera in

Re: Option WG-1

2011-10-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: I'm the left nut. I think I heard somebody trying to trade you for a K-5. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: PDML meet in Italy ?

2011-10-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
Update: Once again, it's a very hectic time here, with grandma who died today, a sister hospitalized and more troubles all together. I do hope something will settle before we can meet in Venezia. This said, I still want to meet you in Venice, probably on Sunday 6th. Never been to Torcello,

Re: Cold Weather Photography

2011-10-27 Thread Dario Bonazza
Here is the link to the original English text, translated by me into Italian for that article: www.dariobonazza.com/public/Oksne_EN.pdf Enjoy, Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: PPG - Image Display Issue

2011-10-27 Thread Jack Davis
Did, regrettably, notice it, Brian. Would be nice if the PPG file managers could do a wholesale bump to the 900 px dimension. :)   Jack From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: PPG - Image Display

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-10-26 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. [...] I will be able to show the baseball pix I took this summer along with a few other events in my on-line ad, but I don't have a web site so I'm not going to look terribly professional

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That's a fine portfolio, Bruce. What kind of reaction have you been getting from prospective customers? Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-10-26 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread P. J. Alling
So you specialize in woman's portraits On 10/27/2011 10:50 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-10-26 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. [...] I will be able to show the baseball pix I took this summer along with a few other events in

Re: PDML meet in Italy ?

2011-10-27 Thread Stan Halpin
John - I envy you the chance to spend time in Italy! Meg and I spent two weeks in northern Italy in March 2007 (including a day in Venice with Dario and a friend of his plus Gianfranco.) Our trip was about half at Lake Garda and region, the rest of the time in Venice with that time confounded

Re: You may get crap from me

2011-10-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
I believe they were multiple emails/spams to only part of Frank's contacts at one time. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:20 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised that you can spam from a Hotmail account.  Mine was shut down because /I/ was a spammer when I attempted to send

Re: Cold Weather Photography

2011-10-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dario, Thanks for posting that story in english. It was very interesting and informative. Jostein in his snowmobile suit looks like the 'Staypuff Marshmallow Man'. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Here is the link to the

Re: Cold Weather Photography

2011-10-27 Thread Larry Colen
On 10/27/2011 7:44 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Here is the link to the original English text, translated by me into Italian for that article: www.dariobonazza.com/public/Oksne_EN.pdf Excellent article. Thanks for posting it in English. Enjoy, Dario -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from

Re: You may get crap from me

2011-10-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Does this mean you don't want to run away with me? On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't want to put the word spam in the SL, but that's what some of you may have gotten from me in recent days.  It seems that my old Hotmail account (which has

Fall is the bridge to Winter

2011-10-27 Thread Don Guthrie
In the Midwest Winter and Summer are seasons of extremes to be endured and survived. Spring is a time of renewal; time to plant and look for green shoots emerging from dark loamy soil. Fall is a time for reflection; time for walks in a forest so quiet you can almost hear the falling leaves hit

Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
...in an ad and e-mail blast. I guess I have no recourse but to be somewhat flattered. I know the new gallery says they can use the pics in any way they see fit. Did the old gallery specify that as well? It's here: http://pentax.thinkbigsolutions.com/N00412_eblast/index_online.html -- PDML

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread David Parsons
At least they kept the signature in it. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: ...in an ad and e-mail blast. I guess I have no recourse but to be somewhat flattered. I know the new gallery says they can use the pics in any way they see fit. Did the old

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Stan Halpin
And they are using it to showcase the Gallery. I would say good on them and good on you. stan On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:52 PM, David Parsons wrote: At least they kept the signature in it. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: ...in an ad and e-mail

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I think you should at least have your copyright showing up on there... it's not good publicity of no one knows who took it. And here I thought they were jsut covering their asses for the thumbnail shots... a On 10/27/2011 16:47, Paul Stenquist wrote: ...in an ad and e-mail blast. I guess

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
The copyright does show, although it's not prominent. They added it. It wasn't on my original. I don't think it will do much for me in any case, but I'm pleased that they chose it. It was on the opening page of the old gallery as well. Paul On Oct 27, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Larry Colen
On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I think you should at least have your copyright showing up on there... it's not good publicity of no one knows who took it. It does have a (c) Paul Stenquist on it. Excellent publicity, and a great shot. And here I thought they were jsut

The new Steady Look

2011-10-27 Thread Tim Øsleby
I've just got a mail from Pentax telling me about the new look of their websites. Guess what pictures they have used to show PPG? Blue Dragon, by our own Paul Steady Stenquist :-) Well deserved I'd say. Paul is among the best ambasdeurs of the brand. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog:

Re: Fall is the bridge to Winter

2011-10-27 Thread Jack Davis
Well said and illustrated, Don.   Jack From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:22 PM Subject: Fall is the bridge to Winter In the Midwest Winter and Summer are seasons of extremes to be endured and survived. Spring is a time of renewal; time

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 10/27/2011 17:11, Paul Stenquist wrote: The copyright does show, although it's not prominent. They added it. It wasn't on my original. I don't think it will do much for me in any case, but I'm pleased that they chose it. It was on the opening page of the old gallery as well. Paul Did

Re: The new Steady Look

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Tim. Some would say I'm a fan boy (or a fan old man:-), although I prefer to think I'm just appreciative. Paul On Oct 27, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I've just got a mail from Pentax telling me about the new look of their websites. Guess what pictures they have used to show

RE: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Bill Sawyer
I got it in the email blast. Gosh, and we knew him when... Nice work, Paul. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Pentax used

RE: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Bob W
...in an ad and e-mail blast. I guess I have no recourse but to be somewhat flattered. I know the new gallery says they can use the pics in any way they see fit. I can imagine that must be quite flattering Did the old gallery specify that as well? It's why they host it. B It's here:

Re: Option WG-1

2011-10-27 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-10-27 9:10, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: I'm the left nut. I think I heard somebody trying to trade you for a K-5. That's the origin of the nickname. My brother is the right nut. (NutDriver Racing on Facebook

Re: PESO: Can anyone help me identify these animals?

2011-10-27 Thread mike wilson
On 27/10/2011 05:27, P. J. Alling wrote: On 10/26/2011 8:22 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I would like anyone familiar with cattle breeds to look at this PESO, and let me know what breed they think the particular animals

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread mike wilson
On 26/10/2011 21:46, frank theriault wrote: I'm in the process of starting a part time photography business. I can't answer your specific questions for numerous reasons. But my first thought was equipment. Duplicate body and lenses, plus a hefty computer/storage system seem to be de

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed Oct 26 19:52:19 EDT 2011 Cotty wrote: On 26/10/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks in advance for your input!! .. When I started out, I pitched myself where I thought companies could afford - which didn't seem too cheap, nor too expensive. I was wrong. The

Re: PESO: Can anyone help me identify these animals?

2011-10-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks to all for you comments on the image and your suggestions as to the breed. I think that they are indeed Watusi. Strange indeed, especially in New Jersey, the land of dairy cows. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:00 PM, frank

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It's a fantastic image. I glad Pentax recognizes that but I'd be happier if they paid you or at least asked your permission first. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: ...in an ad and

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Stan Halpin
On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Wed Oct 26 19:52:19 EDT 2011 Cotty wrote: On 26/10/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Thanks in advance for your input!! .. When I started out, I pitched myself where I thought companies could afford - which

PPG / Google Chrome

2011-10-27 Thread kwaller
I've been unable to acess the Gallery. Every time I try I get the gallery web page and then immediately an add on for Google Chrome no way to bypass it - need I update to chrome to get to the Gallery? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Stan Halpin
On Oct 26, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Unfortunately, parents of little league ballplayers don't think of it in the same financial terms as a wedding. You can't price this kind of photography based on what you might think your time is worth. You have to base it on what the

RE: PDML meet in Italy ?

2011-10-27 Thread John Coyle
Thanks for that info, Stan, I'd have to confess I had not yet sorted out how to get to Torcelo and Murano! The idea of going came as a result of an article in our Weekend Australian newspaper two weeks ago, when the rest of our plans have been in place for some while. Regards John Coyle

RE: PDML meet in Italy ?

2011-10-27 Thread John Coyle
Dario, that sounds like a really good idea. Our original thoughts were to travel from Venice to Ravenna, then along the Forli-Bologna route, so that fits in extremely well, I'll look forward to meeting you in Venice , and raising a glass with you in Ravenna (provided I can get the three girls

Re: PPG / Google Chrome

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Any browser should take you there. I haven't tried google chrome but both safari and firefox work fine. Paul On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:10 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I've been unable to acess the Gallery. Every time I try I get the gallery web page and then immediately an add on for Google

Re: PDML meet in Italy ?

2011-10-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Alas, it appears that I won't be going to Italy this December. :( Lisa has a conference in Padua December 5-6th and we were thinking of making it into a holiday trip for the two of us, but it conflicts with final exams for me. Now Lisa's going to go alone and keep it short - just the minimum

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Mark C
On 10/27/2011 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: ...in an ad and e-mail blast. I guess I have no recourse but to be somewhat flattered. I know the new gallery says they can use the pics in any way they see fit. Did the old gallery specify that as well? It's here:

Re: PPG / Google Chrome

2011-10-27 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Paul I have IE 6 and I can't get there with it - both the artists page and the gallery page. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent:

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Oct 26, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Unfortunately, parents of little league ballplayers don't think of it in the same financial terms as a wedding. You can't price this kind of photography based on what you might think

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Mark C wrote: On 10/27/2011 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: ...in an ad and e-mail blast. I guess I have no recourse but to be somewhat flattered. I know the new gallery says they can use the pics in any way they see fit. Did the old gallery specify that as

Re: PPG / Google Chrome

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Maybe it's an op-sys problem. Jack Davis had difficulties, but they seemed to be the result of computer system faults. On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:27 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Thanks Paul I have IE 6 and I can't get there with it - both the artists page and the gallery page. Kenneth Waller

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Dan! It's not a formal portfolio though. I just selected all the portrait and related shots from my 500px stream and made this to test the portfolio feature of 500px. I'm evaluating whether I'm going to fork over actual money to them for so-called Awesome features. I haven't been

Re: A Question About a New Business

2011-10-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Seems to be a niche I really enjoy. I've also done male portraits, pet portraits and lots of other stuff like classic car detail, flower macros (well, who hasn't?), etc. But I seem to be drawn to the unique challenges in photographing people, in particular women, so I keep returning to it.

Re: PPG / Google Chrome

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Sorenson
Are you on a PC? There's been a malicious bit of spyware making the rounds that re-directs you to ad sites, often associated with YellowPages. The only thing I found to get rid of it was PCTools Spyware Doctor, although there may be others that work, too. -p On 10/27/2011 7:10 PM,

Re: PPG / Google Chrome

2011-10-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Ken Waller wrote: Thanks Paul I have IE 6 and I can't get there with it - both the artists page and the gallery page. You're going to find fewer and fewer web sites working with IE6 these days and it's only going to get worse. http://mashable.com/2011/03/04/ie6-countdown/

Re: PPG / Google Chrome

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Walters
On Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:27 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Thanks Paul I have IE 6 and I can't get there with it - both the artists page and the gallery page. Yeah - I've just tried accessing the PPG using my test version of IE 6 and the Google Chrome Frame add-in comes

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread wendy beard
I just saw it! Congrats - that's a nice shot. If it were me, I'd be flattered :-) Wendy On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: ...in an ad and e-mail blast. I guess I have no recourse but to be somewhat flattered. I know the new gallery says they can

Re: Pentax used one of my pics...

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Oct 27, 2011, at 10:03 PM, wendy beard wrote: I just saw it! Congrats - that's a nice shot. If it were me, I'd be flattered :-) Thanks, Wendy. I've decided to be flattered, although my profit motivation nags at me a bit;-). Paul Wendy On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Paul

peso - cube 2.0 (NSFW)

2011-10-27 Thread Sasha Sobol
Comments and critique are welcome. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9vvEVkjWG1IZOACnrrDth5Rr_EHRn2XKJGQ2o3vSKfo?feat=directlink Thanks. --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: PPG / Google Chrome

2011-10-27 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:10:37 -0400 kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: I've been unable to acess the Gallery. Every time I try I get the gallery web page and then immediately an add on for Google Chrome no way to bypass it - need I update to chrome to get to the Gallery? I have no issues with chrome

Unsubscribing for a month

2011-10-27 Thread John Coyle
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