Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

2012-11-01 Thread Larry Colen
Here's one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8147015170/in/set-72157631909131126 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly a

Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

2012-11-01 Thread William Robb
My favourite composition structure is a D cup. It's natures cantilever. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Digital Film - Wouldn't it be Great?

2012-11-01 Thread William Robb
On 01/11/2012 8:49 PM, Tom C wrote: One of these days I'll sort through the reams of transparencies boxed away and find out. Am I better or am I simply changed? You've been democratized. One of the advantages us darkroom guys had over hand it over to the lab for a picture guys was that w

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Boris Liberman
John, I am sorry but you have a little mistake here. K10D was 10MP not 12. I have upgraded from K10D to K-7 and then to K-5. Here are the advantages that K-5 has over K10D in my personal view (in random order with only very partial sense of priority): 1. Dynamic range/High ISO performance/14-

Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise

2012-11-01 Thread David Savage
How did YOU miss it? :-P On 02/11/2012, Tom C wrote: > How come no one told me there was a stinkin' piece of dust in this > image? Almost center frame. > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Tom C wrote: >> Taken over the Columbus Day weekend from the Paradise trail at Mt. >> Rainier National P

Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise

2012-11-01 Thread Tom C
How come no one told me there was a stinkin' piece of dust in this image? Almost center frame. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Tom C wrote: > Taken over the Columbus Day weekend from the Paradise trail at Mt. > Rainier National Park. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16555015&size=lg

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread John Francis
Or, come to that, ever found yourself limited by the mere 12MP of the K10D? Discounting a K5 because it only offers an additional 1.7MP over a K20D implies that the extra megapixel count is a valuable feature, which I question. I'd happily have bought my K5 even if it didn't offer more MP than the

Re: Your favorite composition structure

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
Fibonacci Spiral http://mathnexus.wwu.edu/mathpix/fibonaccihair.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread David Parsons
Have you actually tried using a K-5 instead of just reading the specifications? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Larry Colen > > >> On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote: >> >> What, specifically, are you looking for in a DSLR? Other than that it c

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote: What, specifically, are you looking for in a DSLR? Other than that it costs less than $800? In bright light it's pretty hard to see any effective difference in image quality of just about any DSLR this side of the K100. Wh

Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

2012-11-01 Thread Jack Davis
Speaking for myself, the "rules" I cited were the basic boilerplate nearly everyone reads or is told when beginning to learn photography. They are only a guide that can be of benefit if the chosen scene allows. The complete opposite is a better option in many cases.   Jack  - Original Mess

Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

2012-11-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
My favorite composition is that which looks good to my eye. No rules, no measurement. Paul On Nov 1, 2012, at 10:57 PM, David Parsons wrote: > Why? There's nothing wrong with centering your subject. If it suits > your vision, do it. > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola >

Re: Digital Film - Wouldn't it be Great?

2012-11-01 Thread David Parsons
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Tom C wrote: > > I'm pained by the necessity to somehow adjust every image that I think > meets my standards. Luckily or unluckily that's 1% or less of the > images I take. It used to be zilch. I either made the shot or I > didn't. There was no cropping, exposure a

Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

2012-11-01 Thread David Parsons
I use the golden mean instead of the rule of thirds, especially when cropping in post. I'm also a fan of cropping to square (still using the golden mean). On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Obviously off center horizontally and vertically. I find that "thirds" are > often a bit

Digital Film - Wouldn't it be Great?

2012-11-01 Thread Tom C
I realize the subject line is a misnomer. Do you remember in the late 90's early 2K's when things like this were considered a possibility, at least by some? I know this example is a deliberate joke... http://re35.net/ I've been thinking about how much and little photography has changed in the pa

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:29 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu The K-5's 16MP Sony sensor is a huge improvement over the 14MP Samsung one. With the K20D, details in shadows were pretty much covered by huge amounts of noise; with the K-5, one

RE: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: "J.C. O'Connell" You can get a k5 for $900 not $1200. If it's worth that much to you buy it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Given CPU horsepower

2012-11-01 Thread Tom C
> From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu > Let's see... > - 1.5 GHz dual core processor needed, to avoid lag in menus and simple > applications > - battery will last ~2 hours with intensive use > - applications are written in Java, i.e. slow so don't even think > about image processing > - an useless touc

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Stan Halpin
I generally do not like street people or beggar photos because of the "exploitation" factor. There seems to be a fine line between legitimate social commentary and "hey, look at the funny bag lady." However I really like this shot Frank. I wouldn't want to hang it on my wall, but think it would

October faves

2012-11-01 Thread Larry Colen
Warning, spiders: November bestof photo set. Warning, spiders: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631688451606/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from t

Re: PESO - Aftermath

2012-11-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Actually that's a bike cop and his bike. Have to admit I was looking at the firefighter in the foreground and the fellow behind him, along with the tangle of hoses. Didn't even notice the officer and his bike... Thanks for the comment, Dan! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel

Re: PESO - Aftermath

2012-11-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Steve, and thanks to everyone who commented and to those of you who took a look. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Steven Desjardins Sent: October 31, 2012 10/31/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - Aftermath Good shot. The hoses make a great foreground.

Re: OT: Your recipe for great photography tutorials

2012-11-01 Thread David Savage
Funny... But I think you're supposed to buy the magazine for a more in depth how-to. On 2 November 2012 05:10, Darren Addy wrote: > I'm sorry, I couldn't resist after seeing this fantastic > tutorial on "How do I shoot the moon?" which is subtitled > "Discover how to shoot the moon using your e

RE: GESO: Istanbul

2012-11-01 Thread Bob W
Good stuff. Nice website. B > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luka Knezevic- > Strika > Sent: 01 November 2012 16:03 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: GESO: Istanbul > > http://www.lukaknezevicstrika.com/gallery.html (first thumbnail op

RE: Your recipe for great photography tutorials

2012-11-01 Thread Bob W
Thanks. I've been doing it all the wrong way round. B > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy > > I'm sorry, I couldn't resist after seeing this fantastic > tutorial on "How do I shoot the moon?" which is subtitled "Discover how > to shoot the moon using your existi

Re: OT: Big Lens

2012-11-01 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 04:57:08PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > Joseph McAllister wrote: > > >On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:17 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > > >> http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-Nikon-big-lens-camera.jpg > > > >I guess surfing photography pays well! > > Surfing photography?

Re: PESO: Golden Fleece

2012-11-01 Thread Walt
Thank you, Tim! Very kind of you to say. :) -- Walt On 11/1/2012 3:56 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Wow, that’s an outstanding shot, made my eyes happy -T On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Walt wrote: I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my neighbor's front yard and i

Re: GESO: Istanbul

2012-11-01 Thread Bulent Celasun
Beautiful images. Liked the smell of film ;) Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/11

Re: OT: Your recipe for great photography tutorials

2012-11-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I'm sorry, I couldn't resist after seeing this fantastic > tutorial on "How do I shoot the moon?" which is subtitled > "Discover how to shoot the moon using your existing camera kit in just > 3 simple steps." > http://news.dphotographer.co.uk/n

Re: GESO: Istanbul

2012-11-01 Thread Tim Bray
Wow, these days, you can tell instantly when something’s film not digital. Not sure what the give-away is. Nice pictures! -T On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: > http://www.lukaknezevicstrika.com/gallery.html (first thumbnail opens > the slideshow) > > A good chunk of t

Re: OT: Big Lens

2012-11-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister wrote: >On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:17 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-Nikon-big-lens-camera.jpg > >I guess surfing photography pays well! Surfing photography? This guy's at a road race track. There are several cornerworkers right behind hi

Re: Peso: Wet Web

2012-11-01 Thread Tim Bray
Nice. Maybe crank the saturation just the tiniest bit? -T On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > A pretty post-Sandy detail, and the Q was handy: > > http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-jrmt2vz/0/XL/wet-web-XL.jpg > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO: Golden Fleece

2012-11-01 Thread Tim Bray
Wow, that’s an outstanding shot, made my eyes happy -T On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Walt wrote: > I don't know what kind of plant it is, but it's across the street in my > neighbor's front yard and it was really luminous just before sundown > yesterday. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/w

Re: OT: Big Lens

2012-11-01 Thread Joseph McAllister
I guess surfing photography pays well! On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:17 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-Nikon-big-lens-camera.jpg > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pd

Re: OT: Big Lens

2012-11-01 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" : http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-Nikon-big-lens-camera.jpg The interesting thing is that he's got another one, almost as big, draped over his other shoulder. Obviously he spends his spare time at the gym... -- Cheers Brian

Re: Your favorite composition structure

2012-11-01 Thread kwaller
Don't really have one ! For me it all depends on the subject & how I want to portray it. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" Subject: Poll: Your favorite composition structure We are probably all familiar w

Re: Big Lens

2012-11-01 Thread kwaller
Funny, I don't see a tripod or monopod or the sherpa that's supposed to come with it! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: OT: Big Lens http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-Nikon-big-lens-cam

Re: PESO: Father and Daughter

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Jack! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Terrific moment, Dan! > > Jack > > > > - Original Message - > From: Daniel J. Matyola > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 1

Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

2012-11-01 Thread Jack Davis
Obviously off center horizontally and vertically. I find that "thirds" are often a bit much. I seem to prefer off center to the right. Alsop, I find it comfortable if the scene flows from the lower left to the upper right. Have herd it referred to the "eye channel." (??) Jack   - Original M

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> So you do understand that if PRIC needs to start from a clean slate on a >> project, it's going to take a while to get the job done? And that in the >> mean time if they can address som

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote: >> What, specifically, are you looking for in a DSLR? Other than that >> it costs less than $800? In bright light it's pretty hard to see any >> effective difference in image quality of just about any DSLR this >> side of the K100. > > What I w

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > So you do understand that if PRIC needs to start from a clean slate on a > project, it's going to take a while to get the job done? And that in the > mean time if they can address some of the key problems with the K5 without > taking too mu

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > What I want is to buy a camera (if/when one ever comes along) that > offers me sufficient improvement over what I have now to be worth the > price - whatever that price might be. I hope that camera will be offered > by Pentax. > > K-5 ain't it

RE: GESO: Istanbul

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Luka Knezevic-Strika http://www.lukaknezevicstrika.com/gallery.html (first thumbnail opens the slideshow) A good chunk of these shot with a spotmatic sp II I can't get a slide show. I click on the thumbnail & I get only one larger image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.ne

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 1, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Larry, > > Yes, I have done embedded systems and have also taken products from concept > to market. Been there, done that. So you do understand that if PRIC needs to start from a clean slate on a project, it's going to take a while to g

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread William Robb
On 31/10/2012 6:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 31, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John Francis wrote: I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea of the K-5 not being a worthwhile upgrade from a K10D. Ain't that the truth! The K20D was a significant upgrade from the K10D in

RE: Big Lens

2012-11-01 Thread J.C. O'Connell
makes my 1000mm takumar seem like a pentax-M series lens. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen That's not what I want. My point is that the Vette is a fairly expensive car, just as the K-5 is a fairly expensive camera. However, it outperforms cars that cost quite a bit more than it does, and for that matter, the vast majority of people who own one. Feel free to draw an

RE: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread J.C. O'Connell
You can get a k5 for $900 not $1200. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:30 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: After reading the K5xxx

Re: PESO: Father and Daughter

2012-11-01 Thread Jack Davis
Terrific moment, Dan!   Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: PESO: Father and Daughter Taken at the Steeplechase Races: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16543035 Comments are app

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Stan Halpin
I generally do not like street people or beggar photos because of the "exploitation" factor. There seems to be a fine line between legitimate social commentary and "hey, look at the funny bag lady." However I really like this shot Frank. I wouldn't want to hang it on my wall, but think it would

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There are a lot of homeless who can't work even though they have no major physical limitations. Many, especially war veterans, suffer from severe psychological problems. Most have addictions of one sort or another. Still others can't find employment in this very difficult market because of a cri

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu The K-5's 16MP Sony sensor is a huge improvement over the 14MP Samsung one. With the K20D, details in shadows were pretty much covered by huge amounts of noise; with the K-5, one can easily recover images underexposed by several stops. And you're getting not only a

PESO: Father and Daughter

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Taken at the Steeplechase Races: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16543035 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, p

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
He might not be able to work. From the expression of his eyes, it appears to me that he's blind. From: Paul Sorenson Frank - What I see here appears to be a homeless, out of work man who is virtually invisible to the passers-by. He may be down on his luck, but still retains a shred of dignity

Re: PESO: Horse Country

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:53 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Fun candid snap. > > ;-) > > cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Daniel J. Matyola" > Sent: October 29, 2012 10/29/12 > To: "Pentax-

Re: PESO: Country Gentleman

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:50 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Terrific casual portrait. > > Btw, the glasses must stay! They look like a part of his personality. > > Cheers, > frank > > --- Original Message --- > >

Re: GESO: Istanbul

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I really like the composition of the image with the girl looking towards the Mosque in the distance. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: > http://www.lukaknezevicstrika.com/gallery.html (first thumbnail opens >

The K5-II is a real treat

2012-11-01 Thread Larry Colen
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/10/31/an-incredibly-detailed-halloween-camera-pumpkin/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly abo

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Frank, it is a slice of life that we often seek to ignore or avoid. I think it is important to recognize the existence of people who are in this condition, and to think about what we can and should do about it. I am involved with several programs that reach out to the homeless and the hungry. I

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Walt
I don't think it's exploitative in the least, Frank. I like it a lot, in fact. Panhandlers/beggars as a rule *want* to be seen. You don't pick up much change in the dark corners of alleyways, after all. And they *should* be seen, if only to remind those of us who've been blessed with more in

Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise

2012-11-01 Thread Tom C
Thanks for commenting and looking Jack, Christine, Dan, Don, Paul, Darren, Frank, Bruce, and probably some I forgot. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re:PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Don Guthrie
The man is in a public place doing what he does. I don't think it is exploiting to take and post the photo. That said I don't think the picture works for me as a because I see people but I don't see their reaction to him. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 14 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 03:01

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Bruce Walker
I agree with Paul: well put. And I agree that this is an excellent shot. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Any photo can be exploitive. We're all taking advantage of what the world > reveals when creating our images. Every photo exploits something. Sometimes, > the homel

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Any photo can be exploitive. We're all taking advantage of what the world reveals when creating our images. Every photo exploits something. Sometimes, the homeless are easy targets and not much beyond their pitiful condition is revealed. But here, the figures rushing past in the foreground that

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Darren Addy
First, I'd like to say that I think that is a very powerful photograph. I puzzled for a while over Frank's question of exploitation and then puzzled a while longer on whether the question of whether something was exploitation could ever be properly judged by oneself, or others, or a poll. I decide

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Reply interspersed... > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Paul Stenquist > wrote: >> A couple of points in response: >> My DA* 60-250 failed after more than 30,000 frames and was repaired for >> $183.00. It's a fabulous lens, and , I believ

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:01 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, I have a dilemma here and your opinion would help me. I do take photos > of beggars from time to time but I try not to exploit them and do try to show > them in a very "human" way. > > So here's today's PESO: > > http://k

Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

2012-11-01 Thread Jack Davis
This and like photos stir emotions which I would think could range from sympathy to disgust. Whether that justifies the taking of it would be personal to each viewer. As for me, in this particular case, I'm open to a message I've yet to receive. It does remind me of the phrase; there but for the

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Reply interspersed... On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > A couple of points in response: > My DA* 60-250 failed after more than 30,000 frames and was repaired for > $183.00. It's a fabulous lens, and , I believe, at least the equal of > anything available in that range. Op

Re: Here are those Moonraker Takumars (was pentax sighting)

2012-11-01 Thread Paul Ewins
Oops a little too quick on the trigger there, your second message covered it. Basically a scientific lens from memory, made to order and now highly collectible. On 01/11/2012, at 11:10 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: > On on the right is one of the ultra-rare quartz lenses. > > Here is someonelse dis

Re: Here are those Moonraker Takumars (was pentax sighting)

2012-11-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/sets/72157631902109998/ > >The one on the left is easy. >But what exactly is the one on the right A Takumar 85mm f/3.5 quartz glass lens (for shooting under ultraviolet light - ordinary glass blocks most UV). My friend in NC has

Re: Here are those Moonraker Takumars (was pentax sighting)

2012-11-01 Thread Paul Ewins
On on the right is one of the ultra-rare quartz lenses. Here is someonelse discussing that exact shot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sashavasko/5612410202/ On 01/11/2012, at 10:58 PM, "Collin Brendemuehl" wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/sets/72157631902109998/ > > The o

Re: Here are those Moonraker Takumars (was pentax sighting)

2012-11-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Someone else pointed to You Only Live Twice. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sashavasko/5612410202/ Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailma

Here are those Moonraker Takumars (was pentax sighting)

2012-11-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/sets/72157631902109998/ The one on the left is easy. But what exactly is the one on the right Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Li

Re: OT: Fuji X100?

2012-11-01 Thread Doug Brewer
On 10/31/12 11:16 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Excellent. I hear it's quirky, but you've been using Pentax so it's just a question of getting use to a different kind of quirky. ;-) As long as it doesn't fight me every step of the way, I'll be good. But yeah, sometimes the stuff I read make m

Re: OT: Fuji X100?

2012-11-01 Thread Doug Brewer
On 10/31/12 10:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I hope you enjoy it! I'll be interested to hear what you think of it after you get a chance to use it for a while. Godfrey Thanks. Will do. I'm hoping the excitement of new stuff will give me a little boost, get me out of the photo rut I feel like

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 1, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 10/31/2012 4:39 PM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: >> Such conclusions are premature; the product we saw so far (from >> October 2011) are "Pentax-Hoya" projects. There simply wasn't enough >> time (less than a year, including analyzing th

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Collin, I agree, those "context switches" weren't easy on them, and roller coaster corporate ride is a good way to describe what it happened (the founder family lost control when Pentax become publicly owned, which allowed Sparx to push Pentax into Hoya's arms, and finally Hoya sold them to Ricoh

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Larry, Yes, I have done embedded systems and have also taken products from concept to market. Been there, done that. What I have not done is taken part is the corporate shift that saw Pentax move from (1) Family Owned, to (2) Public Ownership, to (3) Hoya, to (4) Ricoh. I think that transiti

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Joseph McAllister
You can always recognize people who use complex spreadsheets to make decisions that are best left to the heart. K-5… Sigh… It's a thing of beauty. On Nov 1, 2012, at 00:21 , John Sessoms wrote: > Y'all keep harping on how much "improvement" the K-5 has and keep ignoring > the "justify the e

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:11 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Larry Colen > >> A couple of automotive analogies occur to me. >> >> First of all, complaining that the K-5 isn't full frame is like >> complaining that the Corvette doesn't have a V12. >> >> It also seems to me that the folks who buy a

Re: OT: Fuji X100?

2012-11-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/10/12, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: >you've been using Pentax so it's >just a question of getting use to a different kind of quirky Gotta be a MARK! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion -- _

RE: PESO - He's Ready

2012-11-01 Thread Bob W
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > knarftheria...@gmail.com > > This group is at this intersection every weekend (right next to the > Muslims, as I showed in an earlier photo) and what strikes me about > them is that they are very negative, very "fire and brimstone" in thei

RE: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread Bob W
> > From: Larry Colen > > > A couple of automotive analogies occur to me. > > car analogies are like photographs of ducks. Easy, boring and never enlightening. If you find yourself tempted to make one, you should always strongly resist the urge, and if you succumb, never, ever share them with ot

Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

2012-11-01 Thread John Sessoms
Y'all keep harping on how much "improvement" the K-5 has and keep ignoring the "justify the expense" side of the equation. Gotta' have both. It's $1200 for an APS-C sensor 1.7MP larger than the K20D. Or $850 for the version that doesn't have the improved improvements. When I bought the second