On 6 Dec 2014, at 01:11, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
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I hadn't considered Photoshop Elements because I've not used it, but a
quick search tells me the later versions of Elements have at least some
of the tools I want that Lightroom doesn't seem to have - i.e. LAYERS,
layer
John - Elements 5.0 definitely has layers and layer masks.
for photography I use photoshop without layers - except for adding my
copyright info or captions. But I do a fair amount of graphic design
stuff for the calendar covers,book covers, T-shirts, and such. It
doesn't seem to me that
Well exposed and composed, Marco. Don't really think the light, (?) on the
right of the frame, is necessary.
Jack
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Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 8:16:04 PM
Subject: PESO - Lighting
Clever! And beautifully rendered.
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http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso28.html
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Bob, I disagree on a few points. First, it's too simplistic to just
say that Lr and Ps are built around different metaphors: that's like
comparing a Swiss Army knife and a paring knife; they are targeted to
different audiences and so are built differently and behave
differently, though they can
I had know idea the Robin was a state bird anywhere. It is among the
most common birds here in Iowa watching them hunt for worms (with
their feet?) is always fun on summer mornings. Thanks for sharing the
photo. The goldfinch is the sate bird in IA and the only photos I have
of them is around
Another choice...although I haven't heard anyone on the list mention
they're using it...is Cyberlink's PhotoDirector. It's a LR look-alike
currently on sale via Cyberlink's web site. Works with a 64-bit OS and
processes files at a 16-bit level.
The robin is also the Wisconsin state bird...
-p
On 12/6/2014 10:43 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
I had know idea the Robin was a state bird anywhere. It is among the
most common birds here in Iowa watching them hunt for worms (with
their feet?) is always fun on summer mornings. Thanks for sharing
I like it. Two disparate objects set to collide - nice balance and wet
streets are always a treat. I reminds me a little of a shot Knarf posted
some time go when he was still shooting.
On 12/5/14, 10:22 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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Ditto. Either the whole lampost or none at all. MHO
On 12/5/14, 10:22 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:21:45 -0600
From: Jeffery Johnsonjefferyjohn...@photocapturesbyjeffery.com
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Subject: Re: PESO - Lighting
Love the mood of this, Rick. Even your timing was perfect!
Jack
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Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 8:53:51 AM
Subject: Re:PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street
I like it. Two disparate objects set to collide -
Recently at another local nature refuge.
Shot with K-5 back-up w/DA55~300
Comments invited.
Jack
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With the short days of Winter I have been fooling around in the dark
inside.
Two flicker links:
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk64cGgz
https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157649218772719/
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I thought it was a wonderful collection technically clever. I thought
Ken's picture seemed to me big and vast and artful could fit a doz
themes. And Jack's half dome makes me feel small and and limited in
talent. And Rick W just irks me because I missed a chance to shoot that
same statue
Thanks to all who have commented!
Godfrey, by printed down a bit do you mean less exposure?
Jeffery, the trolleys stop at each switch through there, and are only moving at
a brisk walk in between. And, she had left the stop (in the background) and was
heading for the street; so no worries.
Very much appreciate your effort here, Don. I believe the BW would be my
choice and I'd try it somewhat lighter.
Jack
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Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 10:02:52 AM
Subject: Geso small slice of life still
Nice visual irony between the painting subject and the observer!
Mark
On 12/4/2014 12:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
went to the Matisse Cut-out exhibit at MOMA (thanks to free pass from
a member) - fabulous!
Of course, no photography there.
On another floor - there were the Lautrec prints
Okay I will tell you now I have a warped sense of humor. It really would
have been something if you caught the hawk leaving a present on the sign.
Jeffery Johnson
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I really like the colors and tonality in the color versions. The dark
tones, to my eye, harken back to the style of some of the old masters
who often did dark still lifes.
Mark
On 12/6/2014 1:02 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
With the short days of Winter I have been fooling around in the dark
Nice shot Ken - very lively pose!
Mark
On 12/5/2014 2:43 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
The American Robin (Turdus migratorius) is the state Bird of Michigan.
Ist*D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/640, f8.0, 1600 ISO
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17910247
Comments appreciated
Kenneth Waller
On 12/3/2014 3:42 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Thanks Mark - it was chosen by Photonet editors as the photo of the
day for 11/30 !
Congratulations on that!
Mark
I was actually set up and working on some Egrets fishing when the male
Cardinal landed on the rail, very close, next to me - luckily the
Thanks, Jack. There was a local news item a month ago that these are a
new variety of stick bug (new to Michigan) from Asia. Last year and
seemingly again this year one or two appear every few weeks. In late
autumn they were very plentiful outside.
Mark
On 12/5/2014 11:55 AM, Jack Davis
Thanks, Don - it kind of reminds me of the mother ship landing...
Mark
On 12/5/2014 12:16 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
Nicely sharp detailed. It is such an odd shape from this angle that
it could be an abstract object if one did not know the subject.On
12/5/14 11:00 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net
Thanks, Ken - lit with one flash and some reflectors.
Mark
On 12/5/2014 12:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Nice stinking images Mark! The lighting seems very natural.
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- Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
Nice mood, lighting and color. I want to yell Look out!
On 12/5/2014 10:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
On my way home last week...
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17919256size=lg
(K-5, DA 40/2.8 LTD)
Comments appreciated!
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Does anyone know of a way to send messages to PDML from an iPhone or
iPad? It appears that plain text is not an option on these devices.
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I use my comcast mail account on my iPhone to send messages to PDML. I can
choose plain text and it works fine.
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On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to send messages to PDML from an iPhone or
iPad? It appears that plain text
Love this. Great light, nicely composed and rendered.
Paul
On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
Nice mood, lighting and color. I want to yell Look out!
On 12/5/2014 10:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
On my way home last week...
Fine capture! The wetness and lighting really brings it alive.
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Subject: Re: PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street
Love this. Great light, nicely composed and rendered.
Paul
On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Mark C
Beautiful image.
Thanks for the lighting hint, by the way.
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I often use my iPad for email when traveling. I don’t recall any issue with
sending to PDML. So, apparently ’tis your problem and not a general problem.
But I have no clue whether your issue might be related to your ISP, your iPad
settings, or what. Sorry.
stan
On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM,
Don't read this
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Just tested it from my ipad and had no problem. I do find though that if I
paste a link into an email, those nice people in Cupertino convert it to
not-plain so that it won't go through. Thanks guys.
It might be something you can set at the host. My email is all hosted by
Microsoft and
Quoting Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com:
Don't read this
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Well, maybe he thought the ones there were enough of a statement.(?)
Jack :)
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From: Jeffery Johnson jefferyjohn...@photocapturesbyjeffery.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 11:01:59 AM
Subject: Re: Peso-Guard Hawk
Okay I will tell you now I
What Mark said.
- Marco
On Dec 6, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
Nice visual irony between the painting subject and the observer!
Mark
On 12/4/2014 12:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
went to the Matisse Cut-out exhibit at MOMA (thanks to free pass from a
member) -
Jack, Jeffrey,Don -
I (and I suspect, Elliott Erwitt) would disagree.
adjust funnybones, guys
ann
On 12/6/2014 11:56, Don Guthrie wrote:
Ditto. Either the whole lampost or none at all. MHO
On 12/5/14, 10:22 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:21:45 -0600
now you tell me
On 12/6/2014 15:38, Bob W-PDML wrote:
Don't read this
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Don - I looked at the PUG for two days and couldn't decided on a fave, a
top 3, a top 4... etc... just plain nice to look at them all.
and a second look reveals things a quick read through misses..
I thought nice train but didn't quite get the big having missed the
man in the lower left..
I
Seems my Funny Bone wasn't designed to stretch that far.:)
Jack
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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 2:03:08 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Lighting
Jack, Jeffrey,Don -
I (and I suspect, Elliott Erwitt) would
Indeed! The enforcer is very persuasive.
nice bit of whimsey - and anyway I love red-tails
ann
On 12/6/2014 13:00, Jack Davis wrote:
Recently at another local nature refuge.
Shot with K-5 back-up w/DA55~300
Comments invited.
Jack
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=868
Mark - Looks to me exactly the same... I was about to write from outer
space? I don't think he is so ugly with his bejeweledness.
ann
On 12/6/2014 14:09, Mark C wrote:
Thanks, Don - it kind of reminds me of the mother ship landing...
Mark
On 12/5/2014 12:16 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
Nicely
On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to send messages to PDML from an iPhone or
iPad? It appears that plain text is not an option on these devices.
iOS Mail allows me to reply to PDML messages, and type in (not paste) URLs, but
I
Hawks have a night guard scowl about them that would put off a junk yard dog.
I agree, Ann, Red Tail hawks are a favored target.
Appreciated comments!
Jack
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To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 2:23:07 PM
Looks a bit stealthy, also.
Jack
- Original Message -
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 3:04:32 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Stinkbug!
Mark - Looks to me exactly the same... I was about to write from outer
space? I don't think he is
On 6/12/14, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:
Don't read this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGTj8lGCH0U
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I have my two work email accounts on iOS Mail, and would prefer to
keep them well separated from PDML mail.
Yahoo mail worked nicely for that until they changed their settings so
that everything was marked as spam. Unfortunately Gmail doesn't
provide a plain text option.
I guess I'll have to
After reading Godders message I realized that I never initiate a pdml message
from my phone, I only reply. So this is a test to see if I can send a new
message to the list from my iPhone6 using apple mail and the comcast server.
Paul via phone
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I'm a frayed knot.
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After reading Godders message I realized that I never initiate a pdml message
from my phone, I only reply. So this is a test to see if I can send a new
message to the list from my iPhone6 using
Plain text?
stan
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Plain text?
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Sent from my iPad
No problem. It must have to do with your ISP Rick.
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Haven't tried to do a new msg with iOS 8.1.1...
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Yay! It works now. :-)
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Haven't tried to do a new msg with iOS 8.1.1...
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On 12/6/2014 3:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
Don't read this
Don't worry, I didn't.
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Now I know why your e-mails keep showing up in random threads.
On 12/6/2014 6:12 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to send messages to PDML from an iPhone or
iPad? It appears that plain text is not an
On 12/5/2014 11:16 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso28.html
Comments, as always, welcomed.
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Like others before me I find the lighting fixture on the right-hand edge
a distraction.
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On 12/6/2014 2:53 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
LR can work perfectly happily with whatever folder structure you set up.
B
On 6 Dec 2014, at 02:03, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
My experience is the same as Paul's. LR is good
On 12/6/2014 3:15 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
On 6 Dec 2014, at 01:11, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
[...]
I hadn't considered Photoshop Elements because I've not used it, but a
quick search tells me the later versions of Elements have at least some
of the tools I want that Lightroom doesn't
Likely not the explanation. I haven't had time to start a new thread here in
eons.
Godfrey
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Now I know why your e-mails keep showing up in random threads.
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Incorrect. LR cares not what your file system is organized like.
It does require that you understand how to use it.
Godfrey
On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:11 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
What you say is true if you strike the words perfectly happily.
On 12/6/2014 2:53 AM, Bob W-PDML
You don't have to. No one is telling you that you have to. Use whatever
software you like.
But if you want to use LR, it works in ways that are different from Photoshop.
If you don't understand that, and don't want to understand that, fine ... Don't
bother with it.
Godfrey
On Dec 6,
I don't really know anything about Photoshop Elements.
I just thought the price for a full version of Photoshop CS6 (or even
CS5) on Amazon is appalling. It's more than I paid for the full
shrink-wrap version of PhotoshopCS PLUS the upgrades to CS3, CS5 CS6.
I just got to wondering if
Don't look anything like my granddaddy's still.
On 12/6/2014 1:02 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
With the short days of Winter I have been fooling around in the dark
inside.
Two flicker links:
https://flic.kr/s/aHsk64cGgz
https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157649218772719/
SmugMug
On 12/6/2014 9:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
After reading Godders message I realized that I never initiate a pdml message
from my phone, I only reply. So this is a test to see if I can send a new
message to the list from my iPhone6 using apple mail and the comcast server.
Paul via phone
Thanks Ann.
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From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Subject: Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird
Oh, Ken - that's just plain wonderful!
ann
On 12/5/2014 14:43, Ken Waller wrote:
The American Robin
Quoting Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com:
LR and PS are built around different metaphors. Layers are a graphic
design concept, not a photography concept. LR is built around the
idea of a darkroom, where there are no layers as far as I recall.
This I think is key to understanding LR.
What
Easy to find out:
- Go to
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop_elementsloc=us
- Download and install a trial version of Photoshop Elements 13.
- Try it out.
For many, I'm sure it is a viable alternative to Photoshop CC.
For others, I'm sure it is not.
Godfrey
On
On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
… one thing I like to do with layers in PS for certain images, and once I've
adjusted the colour image the way I like, is to merge all layers to a new top
layer and do a BW conversion on it with Silver Efex Pro. In
Thankds for your comments Mark.
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Subject: Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird
Nice shot Ken - very lively pose!
Mark
On 12/5/2014 2:43 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
The
Thanks Don and I agree this months gallery was one of the better as far as
submitted images and the title are concerned.
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Subject: Re Dec Pug
I thought it was a
Shouldn't that be a frayed knot ?
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Subject: Re: iOS test
I'm a frayed knot.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
wrote:
Let me chime in, though I am mostly lurking these days...
Reply interspersed.
On 12/5/2014 10:50, Malcolm Smith wrote:
Photoshop or Lightroom? Lightroom or Photoshop? Or both? Or neither?
All answers are correct :-).
For the last couple of years, photography has been a dormant hobby, the
John, Lightroom does what I ask it to do. The folder structure is mine
and mine alone. Lightroom follows it to the last bit.
Please notice that if you buy version major.0, then all major.x upgrades
are free. Additionally, you can buy an upgrade (about 60% or so of the
full version price).
On 12/5/2014 17:29, Mark Roberts wrote:
Malcolm Smith wrote:
Photoshop or Lightroom? Lightroom or Photoshop? Or both? Or neither?
Each one will do things the other won't, but Lightroom is by far the
better tool for photographers these days; Photoshop has become more of
a graphic designer's
Bob, you grok rightly :-).
On 12/5/2014 20:24, Bob W-PDML wrote:
I've been using Lightroom since it was in beta. I don't have
Photoshop - don't need it. Wait until you absolutely know you need
Photoshop, and worry about it then. In the meantime spend some time
learning Lightroom.
B
On 5
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com:
On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
… one thing I like to do with layers in PS for certain images, and
once I've adjusted the colour image the way I like, is to merge all
layers to a new top layer and do
Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
Let me chime in, though I am mostly lurking these days...
snip
Personally, I don't like the idea of cloud based personal software.
That, of course, is one of the myths about the Creative Cloud system.
The software isn't cloud based - it and
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