Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 6 Dec 2014, at 01:11, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: [...] I hadn't considered Photoshop Elements because I've not used it, but a quick search tells me the later versions of Elements have at least some of the tools I want that Lightroom doesn't seem to have - i.e. LAYERS, layer

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
John - Elements 5.0 definitely has layers and layer masks. for photography I use photoshop without layers - except for adding my copyright info or captions. But I do a fair amount of graphic design stuff for the calendar covers,book covers, T-shirts, and such. It doesn't seem to me that

Re: PESO - Lighting

2014-12-06 Thread Jack Davis
Well exposed and composed, Marco. Don't really think the light, (?) on the right of the frame, is necessary. Jack - Original Message - From: Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 8:16:04 PM Subject: PESO - Lighting

Re: PESO - Lighting

2014-12-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Clever! And beautifully rendered. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso28.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Bob, I disagree on a few points. First, it's too simplistic to just say that Lr and Ps are built around different metaphors: that's like comparing a Swiss Army knife and a paring knife; they are targeted to different audiences and so are built differently and behave differently, though they can

Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird

2014-12-06 Thread Don Guthrie
I had know idea the Robin was a state bird anywhere. It is among the most common birds here in Iowa watching them hunt for worms (with their feet?) is always fun on summer mornings. Thanks for sharing the photo. The goldfinch is the sate bird in IA and the only photos I have of them is around

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Paul
Another choice...although I haven't heard anyone on the list mention they're using it...is Cyberlink's PhotoDirector. It's a LR look-alike currently on sale via Cyberlink's web site. Works with a 64-bit OS and processes files at a 16-bit level.

Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird

2014-12-06 Thread Paul
The robin is also the Wisconsin state bird... -p On 12/6/2014 10:43 AM, Don Guthrie wrote: I had know idea the Robin was a state bird anywhere. It is among the most common birds here in Iowa watching them hunt for worms (with their feet?) is always fun on summer mornings. Thanks for sharing

Re:PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street

2014-12-06 Thread Don Guthrie
I like it. Two disparate objects set to collide - nice balance and wet streets are always a treat. I reminds me a little of a shot Knarf posted some time go when he was still shooting. On 12/5/14, 10:22 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 6 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 22:14:40 -0500 From:

Re: PESO - Lighting

2014-12-06 Thread Don Guthrie
Ditto. Either the whole lampost or none at all. MHO On 12/5/14, 10:22 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:21:45 -0600 From: Jeffery Johnsonjefferyjohn...@photocapturesbyjeffery.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Lighting

Re: PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street

2014-12-06 Thread Jack Davis
Love the mood of this, Rick. Even your timing was perfect! Jack - Original Message - From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 8:53:51 AM Subject: Re:PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street I like it. Two disparate objects set to collide -

Peso-Guard Hawk

2014-12-06 Thread Jack Davis
Recently at another local nature refuge. Shot with K-5 back-up w/DA55~300 Comments invited. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=868 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Geso small slice of life still

2014-12-06 Thread Don Guthrie
With the short days of Winter I have been fooling around in the dark inside. Two flicker links: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk64cGgz https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157649218772719/ SmugMug http://donspix.smugmug.com/Still-Life/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re Dec Pug

2014-12-06 Thread Don Guthrie
I thought it was a wonderful collection technically clever. I thought Ken's picture seemed to me big and vast and artful could fit a doz themes. And Jack's half dome makes me feel small and and limited in talent. And Rick W just irks me because I missed a chance to shoot that same statue

Re: PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street

2014-12-06 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks to all who have commented! Godfrey, by printed down a bit do you mean less exposure? Jeffery, the trolleys stop at each switch through there, and are only moving at a brisk walk in between. And, she had left the stop (in the background) and was heading for the street; so no worries.

Re: Geso small slice of life still

2014-12-06 Thread Jack Davis
Very much appreciate your effort here, Don. I believe the BW would be my choice and I'd try it somewhat lighter. Jack - Original Message - From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 10:02:52 AM Subject: Geso small slice of life still

Re: PEso - at the museum

2014-12-06 Thread Mark C
Nice visual irony between the painting subject and the observer! Mark On 12/4/2014 12:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: went to the Matisse Cut-out exhibit at MOMA (thanks to free pass from a member) - fabulous! Of course, no photography there. On another floor - there were the Lautrec prints

Re: Peso-Guard Hawk

2014-12-06 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Okay I will tell you now I have a warped sense of humor. It really would have been something if you caught the hawk leaving a present on the sign. Jeffery Johnson Photo Captures by Jeffery http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com http://www.Facebook.com/photocapturesbyjeffery

Re: Geso small slice of life still

2014-12-06 Thread Mark C
I really like the colors and tonality in the color versions. The dark tones, to my eye, harken back to the style of some of the old masters who often did dark still lifes. Mark On 12/6/2014 1:02 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: With the short days of Winter I have been fooling around in the dark

Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird

2014-12-06 Thread Mark C
Nice shot Ken - very lively pose! Mark On 12/5/2014 2:43 PM, Ken Waller wrote: The American Robin (Turdus migratorius) is the state Bird of Michigan. Ist*D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/640, f8.0, 1600 ISO http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17910247 Comments appreciated Kenneth Waller

Re: PESO - 'On the Rail'

2014-12-06 Thread Mark C
On 12/3/2014 3:42 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Thanks Mark - it was chosen by Photonet editors as the photo of the day for 11/30 ! Congratulations on that! Mark I was actually set up and working on some Egrets fishing when the male Cardinal landed on the rail, very close, next to me - luckily the

Re: PESO - Stinkbug!

2014-12-06 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Jack. There was a local news item a month ago that these are a new variety of stick bug (new to Michigan) from Asia. Last year and seemingly again this year one or two appear every few weeks. In late autumn they were very plentiful outside. Mark On 12/5/2014 11:55 AM, Jack Davis

Re: PESO - Stinkbug!

2014-12-06 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Don - it kind of reminds me of the mother ship landing... Mark On 12/5/2014 12:16 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: Nicely sharp detailed. It is such an odd shape from this angle that it could be an abstract object if one did not know the subject.On 12/5/14 11:00 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Stinkbug!

2014-12-06 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Ken - lit with one flash and some reflectors. Mark On 12/5/2014 12:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Nice stinking images Mark! The lighting seems very natural. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net

Re: PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street

2014-12-06 Thread Mark C
Nice mood, lighting and color. I want to yell Look out! On 12/5/2014 10:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote: On my way home last week... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17919256size=lg (K-5, DA 40/2.8 LTD) Comments appreciated! Rick --- This email is free from viruses and malware because

PDML and i-devices

2014-12-06 Thread Richard Womer
Does anyone know of a way to send messages to PDML from an iPhone or iPad? It appears that plain text is not an option on these devices. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: PDML and i-devices

2014-12-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I use my comcast mail account on my iPhone to send messages to PDML. I can choose plain text and it works fine. Paul On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know of a way to send messages to PDML from an iPhone or iPad? It appears that plain text

Re: PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street

2014-12-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Love this. Great light, nicely composed and rendered. Paul On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Nice mood, lighting and color. I want to yell Look out! On 12/5/2014 10:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote: On my way home last week...

Re: PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street

2014-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
Fine capture! The wetness and lighting really brings it alive. -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO - Wet Evening at 40th Street Love this. Great light, nicely composed and rendered. Paul On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Mark C

Re: PESO - echinacea seed head

2014-12-06 Thread Bulent Celasun
Beautiful image. Thanks for the lighting hint, by the way. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822

Re: PDML and i-devices

2014-12-06 Thread Stanley Halpin
I often use my iPad for email when traveling. I don’t recall any issue with sending to PDML. So, apparently ’tis your problem and not a general problem. But I have no clue whether your issue might be related to your ISP, your iPad settings, or what. Sorry. stan On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM,

Pingu

2014-12-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
Don't read this -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PDML and i-devices

2014-12-06 Thread Bob W-PDML
Just tested it from my ipad and had no problem. I do find though that if I paste a link into an email, those nice people in Cupertino convert it to not-plain so that it won't go through. Thanks guys. It might be something you can set at the host. My email is all hosted by Microsoft and

Re: Pingu

2014-12-06 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com: Don't read this Sorry :-( -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

FS Saturday: Super A with 35/2 SMC-A

2014-12-06 Thread Joe J. Wilensky
Black Pentax Super A, EX+ condition with caps and strap, together with SMC-A 35mm f/2, also EX+ condition. $300 for the bundle, or $125 for the Super A body and $225 for the 35/2 separately. Photos available upon request. Joe Wilensky -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Peso-Guard Hawk

2014-12-06 Thread Jack Davis
Well, maybe he thought the ones there were enough of a statement.(?) Jack :) - Original Message - From: Jeffery Johnson jefferyjohn...@photocapturesbyjeffery.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 11:01:59 AM Subject: Re: Peso-Guard Hawk Okay I will tell you now I

Re: PEso - at the museum

2014-12-06 Thread Marco Alpert
What Mark said. - Marco On Dec 6, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Nice visual irony between the painting subject and the observer! Mark On 12/4/2014 12:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: went to the Matisse Cut-out exhibit at MOMA (thanks to free pass from a member) -

Re: PESO - Lighting

2014-12-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jack, Jeffrey,Don - I (and I suspect, Elliott Erwitt) would disagree. adjust funnybones, guys ann On 12/6/2014 11:56, Don Guthrie wrote: Ditto. Either the whole lampost or none at all. MHO On 12/5/14, 10:22 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:21:45 -0600

Re: Pingu

2014-12-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
now you tell me On 12/6/2014 15:38, Bob W-PDML wrote: Don't read this -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Re Dec Pug

2014-12-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Don - I looked at the PUG for two days and couldn't decided on a fave, a top 3, a top 4... etc... just plain nice to look at them all. and a second look reveals things a quick read through misses.. I thought nice train but didn't quite get the big having missed the man in the lower left.. I

Re: PESO - Lighting

2014-12-06 Thread Jack Davis
Seems my Funny Bone wasn't designed to stretch that far.:) Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 2:03:08 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Lighting Jack, Jeffrey,Don - I (and I suspect, Elliott Erwitt) would

Re: Peso-Guard Hawk

2014-12-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Indeed! The enforcer is very persuasive. nice bit of whimsey - and anyway I love red-tails ann On 12/6/2014 13:00, Jack Davis wrote: Recently at another local nature refuge. Shot with K-5 back-up w/DA55~300 Comments invited. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=868

Re: PESO - Stinkbug!

2014-12-06 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark - Looks to me exactly the same... I was about to write from outer space? I don't think he is so ugly with his bejeweledness. ann On 12/6/2014 14:09, Mark C wrote: Thanks, Don - it kind of reminds me of the mother ship landing... Mark On 12/5/2014 12:16 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: Nicely

Re: PDML and i-devices

2014-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know of a way to send messages to PDML from an iPhone or iPad? It appears that plain text is not an option on these devices. iOS Mail allows me to reply to PDML messages, and type in (not paste) URLs, but I

Re: Peso-Guard Hawk

2014-12-06 Thread Jack Davis
Hawks have a night guard scowl about them that would put off a junk yard dog. I agree, Ann, Red Tail hawks are a favored target. Appreciated comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 2:23:07 PM

Re: PESO - Stinkbug!

2014-12-06 Thread Jack Davis
Looks a bit stealthy, also. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 3:04:32 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Stinkbug! Mark - Looks to me exactly the same... I was about to write from outer space? I don't think he is

Re: Pingu

2014-12-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/12/14, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: Don't read this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGTj8lGCH0U -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PDML and i-devices

2014-12-06 Thread Richard Womer
I have my two work email accounts on iOS Mail, and would prefer to keep them well separated from PDML mail. Yahoo mail worked nicely for that until they changed their settings so that everything was marked as spam. Unfortunately Gmail doesn't provide a plain text option. I guess I'll have to

iOS test

2014-12-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
After reading Godders message I realized that I never initiate a pdml message from my phone, I only reply. So this is a test to see if I can send a new message to the list from my iPhone6 using apple mail and the comcast server. Paul via phone -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: iOS test

2014-12-06 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm a frayed knot. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: After reading Godders message I realized that I never initiate a pdml message from my phone, I only reply. So this is a test to see if I can send a new message to the list from my iPhone6 using

Also an iOS test

2014-12-06 Thread Stan Halpin
Plain text? stan Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Also an iOS test

2014-12-06 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Plain text? stan Sent from my iPad No problem. It must have to do with your ISP Rick. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Okay another test..

2014-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Haven't tried to do a new msg with iOS 8.1.1... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Okay another test..

2014-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yay! It works now. :-) Godfrey -- On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Haven't tried to do a new msg with iOS 8.1.1... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Pingu

2014-12-06 Thread P.J. Alling
On 12/6/2014 3:38 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Don't read this Don't worry, I didn't. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PDML and i-devices

2014-12-06 Thread P.J. Alling
Now I know why your e-mails keep showing up in random threads. On 12/6/2014 6:12 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 6, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know of a way to send messages to PDML from an iPhone or iPad? It appears that plain text is not an

Re: PESO - Lighting

2014-12-06 Thread John
On 12/5/2014 11:16 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso28.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --- http://www.alpert.com/marco Like others before me I find the lighting fixture on the right-hand edge a distraction. -- Science - Questions we

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread John
What you say is true if you strike the words perfectly happily. On 12/6/2014 2:53 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: LR can work perfectly happily with whatever folder structure you set up. B On 6 Dec 2014, at 02:03, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: My experience is the same as Paul's. LR is good

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread John
On 12/6/2014 3:15 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 6 Dec 2014, at 01:11, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: [...] I hadn't considered Photoshop Elements because I've not used it, but a quick search tells me the later versions of Elements have at least some of the tools I want that Lightroom doesn't

Re: PDML and i-devices

2014-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Likely not the explanation. I haven't had time to start a new thread here in eons. Godfrey On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:44 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Now I know why your e-mails keep showing up in random threads. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Incorrect. LR cares not what your file system is organized like. It does require that you understand how to use it. Godfrey On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:11 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: What you say is true if you strike the words perfectly happily. On 12/6/2014 2:53 AM, Bob W-PDML

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You don't have to. No one is telling you that you have to. Use whatever software you like. But if you want to use LR, it works in ways that are different from Photoshop. If you don't understand that, and don't want to understand that, fine ... Don't bother with it. Godfrey On Dec 6,

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread John
I don't really know anything about Photoshop Elements. I just thought the price for a full version of Photoshop CS6 (or even CS5) on Amazon is appalling. It's more than I paid for the full shrink-wrap version of PhotoshopCS PLUS the upgrades to CS3, CS5 CS6. I just got to wondering if

Re: Geso small slice of life still

2014-12-06 Thread John
Don't look anything like my granddaddy's still. On 12/6/2014 1:02 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: With the short days of Winter I have been fooling around in the dark inside. Two flicker links: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk64cGgz https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157649218772719/ SmugMug

Re: iOS test

2014-12-06 Thread John
On 12/6/2014 9:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: After reading Godders message I realized that I never initiate a pdml message from my phone, I only reply. So this is a test to see if I can send a new message to the list from my iPhone6 using apple mail and the comcast server. Paul via phone

Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird

2014-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Ann. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird Oh, Ken - that's just plain wonderful! ann On 12/5/2014 14:43, Ken Waller wrote: The American Robin

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com: LR and PS are built around different metaphors. Layers are a graphic design concept, not a photography concept. LR is built around the idea of a darkroom, where there are no layers as far as I recall. This I think is key to understanding LR. What

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Easy to find out: - Go to http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop_elementsloc=us - Download and install a trial version of Photoshop Elements 13. - Try it out. For many, I'm sure it is a viable alternative to Photoshop CC. For others, I'm sure it is not. Godfrey On

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: … one thing I like to do with layers in PS for certain images, and once I've adjusted the colour image the way I like, is to merge all layers to a new top layer and do a BW conversion on it with Silver Efex Pro. In

Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird

2014-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
Thankds for your comments Mark. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Subject: Re: PESO - Giving you the Bird Nice shot Ken - very lively pose! Mark On 12/5/2014 2:43 PM, Ken Waller wrote: The

Re: Re Dec Pug

2014-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Don and I agree this months gallery was one of the better as far as submitted images and the title are concerned. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com Subject: Re Dec Pug I thought it was a

Re: iOS test

2014-12-06 Thread Ken Waller
Shouldn't that be a frayed knot ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: iOS test I'm a frayed knot. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Let me chime in, though I am mostly lurking these days... Reply interspersed. On 12/5/2014 10:50, Malcolm Smith wrote: Photoshop or Lightroom? Lightroom or Photoshop? Or both? Or neither? All answers are correct :-). For the last couple of years, photography has been a dormant hobby, the

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Boris Liberman
John, Lightroom does what I ask it to do. The folder structure is mine and mine alone. Lightroom follows it to the last bit. Please notice that if you buy version major.0, then all major.x upgrades are free. Additionally, you can buy an upgrade (about 60% or so of the full version price).

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Boris Liberman
On 12/5/2014 17:29, Mark Roberts wrote: Malcolm Smith wrote: Photoshop or Lightroom? Lightroom or Photoshop? Or both? Or neither? Each one will do things the other won't, but Lightroom is by far the better tool for photographers these days; Photoshop has become more of a graphic designer's

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Bob, you grok rightly :-). On 12/5/2014 20:24, Bob W-PDML wrote: I've been using Lightroom since it was in beta. I don't have Photoshop - don't need it. Wait until you absolutely know you need Photoshop, and worry about it then. In the meantime spend some time learning Lightroom. B On 5

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com: On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: … one thing I like to do with layers in PS for certain images, and once I've adjusted the colour image the way I like, is to merge all layers to a new top layer and do

Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

2014-12-06 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Let me chime in, though I am mostly lurking these days... snip Personally, I don't like the idea of cloud based personal software. That, of course, is one of the myths about the Creative Cloud system. The software isn't cloud based - it and