Re: PESO: Flickr goes nuts over a pretty pedestrian shot

2015-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Jostling made me laugh. :-) I've never figured out the magic combination that nets a Flickr Explore rating. Never bothered to try either, it's simply unimportant. Godfrey On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: Darn, with that thread title I thought this was

Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/12/why-dont-people-smile-old-photographs-google-answer --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Flickr goes nuts over a pretty pedestrian shot

2015-08-12 Thread Jostein Øksne
Darn, with that thread title I thought this was about a pretty girl on a sidewalk. Jostein Den 11. august 2015 15.43.02 CEST, skrev Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: If one thing is certain it is that I don't understand how Flickr chooses images for Explore. I think my Alien Jellyfish

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 12/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes i am.:-) At 2.8 or even 3.2 i'll have to play around with a pre focus point, as they come in from a bit of an angle to my right, thus the higher ap values like

Re: OT: If the Titanic Sunk Tiday

2015-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Bob W-PDML Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:41:05 -0700 wrote: You're all arguing about the wrong thing. Question is, is the boat the iTanic or the less well-known Samsunk? B Amusing as always! However, I don't know that I was arguing about anything, Bob. Just responding to the usual meaningless,

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Because they had to stay perfectly still for quite a period of time, and it is impossible to smile naturally for that length. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Re: OT: If the Titanic Sunk Tiday

2015-08-12 Thread Knarf
Actually the cartoon got it wrong. Everyone would be facing ~away~ from the floundering vessel, taking selfies with the bobbing boat in the background. Cheers, frank On 10 August, 2015 6:40:30 PM EDT, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: You're all arguing about the wrong thing. Question is,

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Roberts
They're actually talking about photos that aren't quite *that* old. On 8/12/2015 11:51 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Because they had to stay perfectly still for quite a period of time, and it is impossible to smile naturally for that length. Dan Matyola

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 12 Aug 2015, at 21:42, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 12 August 2015 at 20:26, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 12 Aug 2015, at 20:20, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/12/2015 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
Jack Davis wrote: Interesting double star on the right prox one third of the way down from the upper frame edge. How long was the exposure? The individual exposures were 14S with astrotracer. http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118069972/ fluidr shows the exposure info

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread ann sanfedele
So cool! ann On 8/12/2015 6:53 AM, Knarf wrote: Cool! Cheers, frank On 12 August, 2015 3:29:01 AM EDT, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I caught one meteor: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118069972/ Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if the Perseids will be in full

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/8/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: Just in case there was something I was missing, I searched. The fastest 600 prime I found was F/4. I told him this was gonna be expensive -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-12 Thread steve harley
On 2015-08-11 19:16 , Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:03:07 -0700 wrote: The Flickr app is free - I don't pay for it, it takes no input or information from or about me that the website doesn't already have or acquire from use. That's true only if you keep your

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-12 Thread steve harley
On 2015-08-11 15:19 , Bob W-PDML wrote: It's part of a general trend towards the Compuserve/AOL model of trying to lock people into proprietary access to stuff so that the vendors can get their sweaty hands on your teats and milk you. i understand the feeling, and i sympathize with Knarf's

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread mike wilson
On 12 August 2015 at 20:26, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 12 Aug 2015, at 20:20, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/12/2015 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/12/why-dont-people-smile-old-photographs-google-answer I wonder how

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Bob W-PDML
At some time in your life you didn't know this, but many other people did. Then you learnt it, and it was a new discovery for you. Since then the world has circled the sun a few times. You and I have increased our store of wisdom as we have increased our store of wrinkles and incontinence

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread ann sanfedele
I've had stars and Im and atheist and a Sagittarious... soo.. msut be something else ann On 8/12/2015 3:01 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: That's very impressive. We don't have stars in Britain. I think it's because we're all atheists or Sagittarius or something. On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Larry

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Roberts
On 8/12/2015 3:37 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: I knew this already, and I'll bet a lot of people on this list did too. However when one has to fill inches, (in the old days of newspapers, column inches), of space to keep one's blog or web site fresh, one must write things like this, which are almost

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread P.J. Alling
On 8/12/2015 11:21 PM, Bill wrote: On 12/08/2015 8:53 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 8/12/2015 10:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On 8/12/2015 3:37 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: I knew this already, and I'll bet a lot of people on this list did too. However when one has to fill inches, (in the old days of

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 12/8/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: Just in case there was something I was missing, I searched. The fastest 600 prime I found was F/4. I told him this was gonna be expensive Truck, lens, truck lens Oy --

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread P.J. Alling
On 8/12/2015 10:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On 8/12/2015 3:37 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: I knew this already, and I'll bet a lot of people on this list did too. However when one has to fill inches, (in the old days of newspapers, column inches), of space to keep one's blog or web site fresh, one

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2015-08-11 19:16 , Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:03:07 -0700 wrote: The Flickr app is free - I don't pay for it, it takes no input or information from or about me that the website doesn't

Re: PESO - Portrait of a Tabby as a Young Cat

2015-08-12 Thread Knarf
I love their wild look as well, Mark. Tabbies I've known are a bit rambunctious, and Zoë sometimes seems not to far removed from the forest. Thanks for the kind words. Cheers, frank On 12 August, 2015 3:19:11 PM EDT, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Nice portrait! I love the wild look of

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Bill
On 12/08/2015 8:53 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 8/12/2015 10:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On 8/12/2015 3:37 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: I knew this already, and I'll bet a lot of people on this list did too. However when one has to fill inches, (in the old days of newspapers, column inches), of space to

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Knarf
False dichotomy. For $6000 you've got the 560mm: http://m.henrys.com/74968-PENTAX-DA-560MM-F5-6-ED-AW-LENS.aspx For $14,000 you've got the Marinoni Genius with Campy Super Record EPS and Bora wheelset. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/Genius.html That's like 1/2 the price of one truck. Think

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-12 Thread Igor PDML-StR
steve harley Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:42:07 -0700 wrote: On 2015-08-11 19:16 , Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:03:07 -0700 wrote: The Flickr app is free - I don't pay for it, it takes no input or information from or about me that the website doesn't already have or

Re: PESO - Portrait of a Tabby as a Young Cat

2015-08-12 Thread Knarf
She's been with us for 3 years and she was an adult pregnant with 4 kittens (all lost, sadly) when our friend found her abandonned and locked in a cat carrier in an alley, one cold, rainy night. The Vet who removed the already-dead kittens was pretty sure it wasn't her first pregancy. So

Re: OT: If the Titanic Sunk Tiday

2015-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 12, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Argue, schmargue! Where would we be sans snark, avec meaning, et sans amusing wryth? Well, we'd certainly be lost without knarf ... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

PESO - Sami Storyteller

2015-08-12 Thread frank theriault
One more of Sami singer Elle Marja Eira. I discovered that the Sami are often referred to as Laplanders, however the Sami consider that to be a derogatory moniker. My problem with Elle Marja was getting one with her eyes open (she mostly sings with closed eyes) and one without the mike covering

Re: PESO: Good for Driving in the Night

2015-08-12 Thread David Mann
Ware wolf? Do they live in warehouses? Cheers, Dave On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:34 am, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Ya' wanta' be a cool dude, ware shades at nigh Ware Shades? Ware Wolf? Their Wolf!

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
I caught one meteor: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118069972/ Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if the Perseids will be in full swing this week. Does anyone have any advice borne of experience for photographing them? I suspect that a lot of short exposures will have the

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Knarf
Cool! Cheers, frank On 12 August, 2015 3:29:01 AM EDT, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I caught one meteor: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157657118069972/ Larry Colen wrote: It seems as if the Perseids will be in full swing this week. Does anyone have any advice borne of

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
Darren Addy wrote: High ISO does not really help you that much... I wouldn't recommend over 800 ISO. You can leave your shutter open as long as you like (well, until you start recording the sky fog/background light). Then you aren't gaining anything by exposing longer because as the stars get

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Larry Colen
Since it didn't terribly matter exactly where I was aiming my lens, I used lightroom's panorama feature to string a bunch together including my one meteor, which gave me 16291x2704: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/20320189520/sizes/o It seems as if my FA31 and FA77 focus at infinity

Re: OT: If the Titanic Sunk Tiday

2015-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Right on the money, frank! :-) Godfrey On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the cartoon got it wrong. Everyone would be facing ~away~ from the floundering vessel, taking selfies with the bobbing boat in the background. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT: Some interesting older photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Chris Mitchell
Good selection. Thanks Dan. The guy testing the football helmet cracks me up. Chris On 12 August 2015 at 13:59, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.earthlymission.com/rarely-seen-enchanted-moments-of-us-history-megapost/ Dan Matyola

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
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OT: Some interesting older photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: A 600mm should solve the lens issue ! f/2.8 should do it. At a pinch an f/4. You getting this Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: A 600mm should solve the lens issue ! Yup f/2.8 should do it. At a pinch an f/4. You getting this Dave Yes i am.:-) At 2.8 or even 3.2 i'll have to play around with

Re: PESO: Good for Driving in the Night

2015-08-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Joke. Did you ever see Mel Brook's Young Frankenstein? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:58 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: Ware wolf? Do they live in warehouses? Cheers, Dave On Aug 12, 2015, at 6:34 am, Daniel J. Matyola

Re: PESO: Wienermobile

2015-08-12 Thread P.J. Alling
On 8/11/2015 4:15 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 11 Aug 2015, at 21:07, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 11 August 2015 at 19:59, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 11 Aug 2015, at 17:43, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: No. In fact I had no idea that Frank N. Furter was a

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes i am.:-) At 2.8 or even 3.2 i'll have to play around with a pre focus point, as they come in from a bit of an angle to my right, thus the higher ap values like 5.6 and 6.3 to give my more in focus area but a poor back drop. Practice, we

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread John
On 8/12/2015 8:27 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: A 600mm should solve the lens issue ! Yup f/2.8 should do it. At a pinch an f/4. You getting this Dave Yes i am.:-)

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Darren Addy
The 3rd Corollary of Murphy's Law for Meteor Photography states that, If you switch your camera postitoning to capture a more active portion of the sky, the field of view you just left will become active and your new field of view will become inactive. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Darren Addy

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Darren Addy
High ISO does not really help you that much... I wouldn't recommend over 800 ISO. You can leave your shutter open as long as you like (well, until you start recording the sky fog/background light). Then you aren't gaining anything by exposing longer because as the stars get more exposure, so does

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Ken Waller
And money - you've got to buy a 600mm f/2.8 lens (or at a pinch we'll let you off the hook with an f/4 version) FWIW - I'm not aware of any f2.8 600mm prime lens, by any manufacturer. My 600mm f4.0 already weighs too much - would need a small truck to cart around something like that.

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Bob W-PDML
That's very impressive. We don't have stars in Britain. I think it's because we're all atheists or Sagittarius or something. On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Since it didn't terribly matter exactly where I was aiming my lens, I used lightroom's

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Darren Addy
Yes, that is M31, the Andromeda galaxy. Also, you've captured the Double Cluster in Perseus, which is just over trees. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Since it didn't terribly matter exactly where I was aiming my lens, I used lightroom's panorama feature

Re: OT: Some interesting older photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Bob W-PDML
That one of Nancy Reagan and Mr. T has put my therapy back at least six years. And the one of Ronald in his sweatpants must have added at least another year. B On 12 Aug 2015, at 18:00, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Good selection. Thanks Dan. The guy testing the football

Re: American Landscapes 2015

2015-08-12 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Rick! And also Paul, Jack, Frank, Marco and everyone else who had a look. Mark On 8/11/2015 10:26 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Excellent, Mark! I really like the framing and the use of IR. Congratulations! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:57 PM, ann sanfedele

Re: American Landscapes 2015

2015-08-12 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Ann! On 8/11/2015 8:57 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Ditto! ann On 8/11/2015 6:51 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: Lovely! Congratulations. - Marco On Aug 11, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Just to share - I have a piece in this years American Landscapes exhibit sponsored

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread John
On 8/12/2015 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/12/why-dont-people-smile-old-photographs-google-answer I wonder how much of a role Victorian era dentistry played? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must

Re: PESO - Portrait of a Tabby as a Young Cat

2015-08-12 Thread Mark C
Nice portrait! I love the wild look of tabby's. Mark On 8/11/2015 9:59 PM, frank theriault wrote: Okay, she's not that young, maybe 4 (she's a rescue so who really knows?). But Zoe acts young: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/08/portrait-of-tabby-as-young-cat.html I showed our Korat,

Re: OT: If the Titanic Sunk Tiday

2015-08-12 Thread Bob W-PDML
Argue, schmargue! Where would we be sans snark, avec meaning, et sans amusing wryth? On 12 Aug 2015, at 15:43, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: Bob W-PDML Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:41:05 -0700 wrote: You're all arguing about the wrong thing. Question is, is the boat the

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 12 Aug 2015, at 20:20, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/12/2015 11:27 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/12/why-dont-people-smile-old-photographs-google-answer I wonder how much of a role Victorian era dentistry played? Victorian ear

Re: PESO - Mosquito Landing (Caffenol)

2015-08-12 Thread Mark C
Oh yeah - Caffenol. I played with it a little a few years ago and it seemed like an interesting developer. I blogged on my initial experiment in 2011 here: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/caffenol My main concern was consistency - not having a precise scale I wondered how

Re: Shooting shooting stars

2015-08-12 Thread Jack Davis
Interesting double star on the right prox one third of the way down from the upper frame edge. How long was the exposure? J Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Since it didn't terribly matter exactly where I was aiming my lens, I used

Re: American Landscapes 2015

2015-08-12 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Alan. The whole exhibit is featured here: http://mdfedart.com/mfaentry/sales/salesgallery.php?exhibit=48 Mark On 8/12/2015 12:32 AM, Alan C wrote: Well done, Mark. Is the the whole exhibit posted somewhere? Alan C -Original Message- From: Mark C Sent: Wednesday, August 12,

Re: Why people didn't smile in old photographs

2015-08-12 Thread P.J. Alling
I knew this already, and I'll bet a lot of people on this list did too. However when one has to fill inches, (in the old days of newspapers, column inches), of space to keep one's blog or web site fresh, one must write things like this, which are almost common knowledge, up as if it was a new

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread John
Just in case there was something I was missing, I searched. The fastest 600 prime I found was F/4. Sigma makes a 200-500mm f/2.8 EX DG zoom lens, but it doesn't appear to be available in Pentax mount. On 8/12/2015 1:56 PM, Ken Waller wrote: And money - you've got to buy a 600mm f/2.8 lens (or

Re: OT: If the Titanic Sunk Tiday

2015-08-12 Thread John
Probably shooting Canon or Nikon. On 8/12/2015 3:25 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Argue, schmargue! Where would we be sans snark, avec meaning, et sans amusing wryth? On 12 Aug 2015, at 15:43, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: Bob W-PDML Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:41:05 -0700 wrote: