Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:35 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > On 7/15/2016 10:30 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM, P.J. Alling >> wrote: >> >>> Actually Liable. > > Damn spell checker, (traditional). Could be worse.

OT - A bit of light relief..

Brexit, Dallas, Nice and now Istanbul, not to mention political sniping on the list - I need some comfort food... When we was in Santa Fe in 2013 (for a far-too-short visit) we went looking for somewhere to have an evening meal and came across the Flying Star Restaurant down near the railway

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Yep. That would be the NSA. Paul via phone > On Jul 16, 2016, at 12:22 AM, Bill wrote: > >> On 7/15/2016 7:11 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> I do. I responded in jest to an amusing thread. You spewed your >> typical vitriol. BTW, you might want to be careful about

Re: "You must have a nice camera!": Results vs. Tools (or Toys)

On 7/15/2016 3:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Igor, I am yet to hear someone tell me that my camera is nice. Which, I am telling you, will be met with a wide smile... However, more than once I was told that I must be professional photographer or that my pictures look

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 7/15/2016 12:43 PM, Ken Waller wrote: 'another drunken sot' wrote - We have an unspoken agreement on this list to not discuss politics at all. Perhaps you should be beaking off to the people who are bringing an unwanted topic to the list. I'm aware of that agreement and have no issue with

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 7/15/2016 7:11 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I do. I responded in jest to an amusing thread. You spewed your typical vitriol. BTW, you might want to be careful about what you post on the Internet. Your remarks could be construed as threatening. To an idiot, perhaps. This:

Re: Photo op

On 7/15/2016 6:39 PM, David J Brooks wrote: So how many here would have thought a butter tart tour would lead to photo op. ok i see Corys hand and Marks hand and Dougs hand, thats it. I'm disappointed. I'm Following the Kawartha butter tart tour on Facebook. Someone commented on how good the

Re: What it the name of Pentax is Vegan Leather?

US Rubber became Uniroyal in 1961. And it was certainly the byproducts of mercilessly slaughtered naugas that provided both the color and the smell. On Friday, July 15, 2016, P.J. Alling wrote: > I think that it was the U. S. Rubber company making Keds sneakers that

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

No not opinion, since Merkel has insisted on her refugee policies, nationalist parties, I would hesitate to call them right wing as they are not particularly conservative, in either the European or American sense, have gained unbelievable ground in Europe. Le Pen of the Front National has

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > You may disagree, it doesn't change the facts. They are not facts, but your opinions. You are, of course, entitled to your opinions, but that does not make them facts. Dan Matyola

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

So glad we are discussing politics now. It was so boring hearing about aperture, ISO, and camera model. Now we talk about preferences instead of cameras and results. As long as we're discussing preferences, I think I'll have a gin and tonic. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Photo op

So how many here would have thought a butter tart tour would lead to photo op. ok i see Corys hand and Marks hand and Dougs hand, thats it. I'm disappointed. I'm Following the Kawartha butter tart tour on Facebook. Someone commented on how good the tarts are in Little Britain and that their 1920

Re: Geso PAEC

Na she found out Dave On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Paul wrote: > You're asking your wife to pick that up for you...right?? 8-) > > -p > > > > On 7/15/2016 2:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote: >> >> Looks like my 55 300 is ready for pickup >> >> On Jul 14, 2016 2:20 PM,

Re: PESO 2016 - 136-143 - GDG

I count 15 aperture blades. My mirror needs to be re-silvered and my eyes are old, so focusing my 3F Rd is a challenge. But I think I'll have a go at it. The limited DOF of the 135 will make it difficult. Paul via phone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi

Re: PESO 2016 - 136-143 - GDG

Yes, they're pretty darn long for a rangefinder camera … not the most commonly used lens. They also tend to flare a bit, so use the lens hood (or shade it with your hand if you don't have one) and avoid having the sun in the frame. Nice old stuff. Leica has always made good equipment, always

Re: PESO 2016 - 136-143 - GDG

I have the screw mount version in like new condition, complete with the leather case. I think most people who bought them never used them. I don't know if I ever used it. I'll have to give it a try. Paul via phone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Re: PESO 2016 - 136-143 - GDG

Thank you both! I'm amazed at the quality I see from this lens. It's a Leica Hektor 135mm f/4.5 from about 1959-1960, bought for me as a gift about four years ago for $185. A very very old optical design … once upon a time I had one of these from my father, an uncoated, late 1940s example

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Totally agree! J Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 4:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > You may disagree, it doesn't change the facts. > >> On 7/15/2016 4:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> I disagree completely, PJ. >> >> >> Dan Matyola >>

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

You may disagree, it doesn't change the facts. On 7/15/2016 4:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I disagree completely, PJ. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:34 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Her refugee policy is one

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Actually it has been reported that he finally did that. He is no longer a US citizen. On 7/15/2016 4:24 PM, John wrote: Try not to confuse "right & wrong" with the law. He is a U.S. citizen by birth on U.S. soil, a so-called "anchor baby" if you will. U.S. law requires citizens to pay taxes

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Yes, those answers are easily offered. :) J Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 3:37 PM, John wrote: > > Figures lie and liars figure. > >> On 7/15/2016 4:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> How is it then that half of all the >> income tax paid in the US is paid >> by

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Figures lie and liars figure. On 7/15/2016 4:59 PM, Jack Davis wrote: How is it then that half of all the income tax paid in the US is paid by the top 1%? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2016, at 1:27 PM, John wrote: There's the rub. The U.S. Tax Code has become so

Adding another sheep to the Pentax fold

I was tasked with getting a camera for a coworker at work. He is to take "assembly photos" of our manufactured machines. During winter months, that means either low light work (using only the interior overhead fluorescent lighting) or some sort of flash. We have a Pentax Sigma Ring Flash that I

Re: "You must have a nice camera!": Results vs. Tools (or Toys)

Boris Liberman wrote: Igor, I am yet to hear someone tell me that my camera is nice. Which, I am telling you, will be met with a wide smile... However, more than once I was told that I must be professional photographer or that my pictures look professional. This is always met with a strong

Re: "You must have a nice camera!": Results vs. Tools (or Toys)

Igor PDML-StR wrote: It is not an urban legend, I've heard it many times myself, as John put it: "from well intentioned people who want to say something complementary, but don't quite have a clue." Yep, Dan, that's one of the variations I've heard. Usually this situation happens in a

Re: OT: cameras by subscription

Gonz wrote: Interesting... or wacky? Not mutually exclusive. http://www.wired.com/2016/07/parachut-camera-subscription They actually claim to carry Pentax gear. I wonder how many lenses you get to borrow for that money? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est)

Re: Peso-Cormorant Watch

Appreciated, Manichaean! J Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > It's a terrific photo, by the way. Manichaean. > >> On 15 Jul 2016, at 22:06, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> Yeah, he'd then be welcomed to the >>

Re: Peso-Cormorant Watch

It's a terrific photo, by the way. Manichaean. > On 15 Jul 2016, at 22:06, Jack Davis wrote: > > Yeah, he'd then be welcomed to the > cormorant tree! > J > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 15, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> Beautiful

Re: Peso-Cormorant Watch

Yeah, he'd then be welcomed to the cormorant tree! J Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > Beautiful plumage. Apart from that white cormorant, which obviously needs a > good rancid greasing. > > B > >> On 15 Jul 2016, at 21:13, Jack

Re: Peso-Cormorant Watch

Beautiful plumage. Apart from that white cormorant, which obviously needs a good rancid greasing. B > On 15 Jul 2016, at 21:13, Jack Davis wrote: > > > > Shot early this AM at Sutter Ntl Refuse. > Another 100F forecast day. > > C? > > J > > K-3 w/DA55-300 > >

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

How is it then that half of all the income tax paid in the US is paid by the top 1%? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 1:27 PM, John wrote: > > There's the rub. The U.S. Tax Code has become so convoluted that it's no > longer a fair system. > > Those who accrue

Re: Geso PAEC

You're asking your wife to pick that up for you...right?? 8-) -p On 7/15/2016 2:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Looks like my 55 300 is ready for pickup On Jul 14, 2016 2:20 PM, "David J Brooks" wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Paul wrote:

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

I disagree completely, PJ. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:34 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > Her refugee policy is one of the factors that is causing the great > European experiment to implode at the moment. > > She

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > Nothing wrong with tax. I get far more benefits from my tax money than I > would by buying the services of same quality in a free market. > You have to start by trusting that you can build a fair system, and then > go do

Re: What it the name of Pentax is Vegan Leather?

What I want to know is: If two vegans have an argument, do they still call it "a beef"? On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > Uniroyal was in Naugatuck, and that was where they farmed the naugas. > I grew up about 10mi from there. Nasty-smelling town, and

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

There's the rub. The U.S. Tax Code has become so convoluted that it's no longer a fair system. Those who accrue the most benefits pay the least taxes & they have the money to buy the politicians to ensure that's not going to change. On 7/15/2016 1:40 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote: Nothing wrong with

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Try not to confuse "right & wrong" with the law. He is a U.S. citizen by birth on U.S. soil, a so-called "anchor baby" if you will. U.S. law requires citizens to pay taxes on income wherever earned. The way the U.S. tax code is rigged, the actual dollar amount of his liabilities are probably

Re: PESO - Thundering Ovation

Thank you, Dan! On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > That is sumptuous! > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Bruce Walker > wrote: > >> It's a daylily ... >>

Re: PESO - Thundering Ovation

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 13/7/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/28008507800/lightbox/ >> >>One of the daylilies in our garden collection. Shot at noon just as >>the sun was obscured

Peso-Cormorant Watch

Shot early this AM at Sutter Ntl Refuse. Another 100F forecast day. C? J K-3 w/DA55-300 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1076 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Since it happens to be true, it is neither slander, nor libel. On 7/15/2016 10:30 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Actually Liable. No, not "Liable" but Libel.

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Den 15.07.2016 21.11, skrev mike wilson: That's you on the no-fly list. So... No flies on me, right? :-) I can live with that. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: OT: This week, WTF?

The NAS was adequate while I had a place to keep off-site backups. Mainly, the NAS duplicated the data on a number of USB external drives, so I could find what I wanted without having to hook up one drive after another & search to find which drive actually had it. I have a computer set up

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

> On 15 July 2016 at 19:25 Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > Tax is the basis of civilisation. Grounded. > > > On 15 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Jostein Øksne wrote: > > > > Nothing wrong with tax. I get far more benefits from my tax money than I > > would by buying

Re: Geso PAEC

Looks like my 55 300 is ready for pickup On Jul 14, 2016 2:20 PM, "David J Brooks" wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Paul wrote: > > Nice collection - 7843 and 7848 are my faves. Noticed these were shot > w/the > > 50-200 - did the 55-300

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

> On 15 July 2016 at 18:40 Jostein Øksne wrote: > > > Nothing wrong with tax. I get far more benefits from my tax money than I would > by buying the services of same quality in a free market. > You have to start by trusting that you can build a fair system, and then go do >

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

'another drunken sot' wrote - We have an unspoken agreement on this list to not discuss politics at all. Perhaps you should be beaking off to the people who are bringing an unwanted topic to the list. I'm aware of that agreement and have no issue with a little politics entering into the

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Tax is the basis of civilisation. > On 15 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Jostein Øksne wrote: > > Nothing wrong with tax. I get far more benefits from my tax money than I > would by buying the services of same quality in a free market. > You have to start by trusting that you can build

Re: What it the name of Pentax is Vegan Leather?

I think that it was the U. S. Rubber company making Keds sneakers that colored the river. On 7/15/2016 2:05 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Uniroyal was in Naugatuck, and that was where they farmed the naugas. I grew up about 10mi from there. Nasty-smelling town, and the Naugatuck River was very

Re: What it the name of Pentax is Vegan Leather?

Uniroyal was in Naugatuck, and that was where they farmed the naugas. I grew up about 10mi from there. Nasty-smelling town, and the Naugatuck River was very colorful at times (depending, I suppose, on the colors of the naugas whose hides they were processing). Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

I'm far beyond caring about a fair system, every tax system will be seen by someone as being unfair. All I ask for is an understandable system. A few years ago I found myself in the unenviable situation of having to take a capital loss on an investment, so it should have been a tax deduction,

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Nothing wrong with tax. I get far more benefits from my tax money than I would by buying the services of same quality in a free market. You have to start by trusting that you can build a fair system, and then go do it. Jostein Den 15. juli 2016 16.21.21 CEST, skrev "P.J. Alling"

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

> On Jul 15, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 15/7/16, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > Turns out he's a U.S. citizen who doesn't pay his taxes. >>> Slander >> Actually Liable. > > Actually libel ;-) He's liable too ... ! =8^/ -- PDML

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 15/7/16, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> Turns out he's a U.S. citizen who doesn't pay his taxes. >> Slander >> >Actually Liable. Actually libel ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --

Re: K1 generates to many metadata for PhotoMe?

Why not just use EXIFtool? If someone wants to make a raw file available, I'd like to do some testing. G > On Jul 15, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > > Does PhotoME still rely on Exiftool for extraction of data? > If so, you may have to wait until that library has

Re: PESO 2016 - 136-143 - GDG

Stunning detail and textures, Godfrey! You justify the quality of your equipment. J - Original Message - From: "Christine Aguila" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 8:21:37 AM Subject: Re: PESO 2016 - 136-143 - GDG

Re: K1 generates to many metadata for PhotoMe?

Does PhotoME still rely on Exiftool for extraction of data? If so, you may have to wait until that library has been updated. Jostein Den 15. juli 2016 10.12.09 CEST, skrev Jos from Holland : >Maybe more than a decennium I use PhotoMe to read metadata from Pentax

Re: PESO 2016 - 136-143 - GDG

Wonderfully, still and soulful, Godfrey! Cheers, Christine > On Jul 15, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > It was a tough week. Needed a walk and diversion. Grabbed a camera and went > out the door... > > https://flic.kr/p/JZMSfJ >

PESO 2016 - 136-143 - GDG

It was a tough week. Needed a walk and diversion. Grabbed a camera and went out the door... https://flic.kr/p/JZMSfJ https://flic.kr/p/JZMS2C https://flic.kr/p/K323ht https://flic.kr/p/K3239c https://flic.kr/p/JZMRj5 https://flic.kr/p/JZMR9q https://flic.kr/p/K3227T

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 7/15/2016 10:30 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Actually Liable. Damn spell checker, (traditional). No, not "Liable" but Libel.

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Her refugee policy is one of the factors that is causing the great European experiment to implode at the moment. She stood up to Putin only as much as could be done without risking a single German solder's life, which doesn't impress a dictator who's willing to have his political opponents

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > Actually Liable. No, not "Liable" but Libel. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant=1=2=UTF-8#q=libel%20definition Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

If American tax law were imposed upon Americans by a foreign power it would be considered an act of war. The fact that US tax law is accepted even by it's citizens is a wonder in and of itself. Without automated help most US tax professionals couldn't fill out a simple tax return. This in a

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 7/14/2016 3:37 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/7/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed: Turns out he's a U.S. citizen who doesn't pay his taxes. Slander Actually Liable. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:01 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > Based on the outcome of her current policies, I think that her > statesmanship is only a seeming and entirely accidental. I disagree. She kept Europe together for as long as she could. She tried to rally

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 7/14/2016 1:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:32 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I haven't seen a lot of statesmanship by any world leader in the last 25 years so Britain should be any different? At times, Merkel has shown some good sense,

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

I do. I responded in jest to an amusing thread. You spewed your typical vitriol. BTW, you might want to be careful about what you post on the Internet. Your remarks could be construed as threatening. Self control, Bill. Paul via phone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Bill

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 7/15/2016 6:43 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: No politics Bill. Practice what you preach, Paul. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

No politics Bill. Paul via phone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Bill wrote: > >> On 7/15/2016 5:33 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Tribble Hair is not yet President Elect. He's merely Presumptive >> Nominee Tribble Hair. However, he may well become PE in November due

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 7/15/2016 5:33 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Tribble Hair is not yet President Elect. He's merely Presumptive Nominee Tribble Hair. However, he may well become PE in November due to Presumptive Nominee Shrillery's continuing problem with the truth. Check the lie-o-meters on both. Check to see

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 7/14/2016 10:23 PM, Ken Waller wrote: To 'another drunken sot' - you're free to make any statment you want, but this list is not the place for We can only hope that Tribble Hair dies before November 20th. We have an unspoken agreement on this list to not discuss politics at all. Perhaps

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

On 15 Jul 2016, at 12:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Tribble Hair is not yet President Elect. He's merely Presumptive Nominee > Tribble Hair. However, he may well become PE in November due to Presumptive > Nominee Shrillery's continuing problem with the truth. Right.

Re: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

Tribble Hair is not yet President Elect. He's merely Presumptive Nominee Tribble Hair. However, he may well become PE in November due to Presumptive Nominee Shrillery's continuing problem with the truth. Paul via phone On Jul 15, 2016, at 1:20 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Re: OT: This week, WTF?

When my NAS with RAID1 stopped working, probably due to hardware failure, I bought two cases for the disks and recovered the data connected to a Linux desktop. Both disks now work fine with a sync program. For me a NAS is not a safe storage solution. Henk Op 2016-07-08 om 21:46 schreef John:

K1 generates to many metadata for PhotoMe?

Maybe more than a decennium I use PhotoMe to read metadata from Pentax image files, now, with K1, this has come to an end. When reading metadata from DNG files from my K5 (with PhotoMe), I can see the the manufacturer notes that inform a.o. the shutter count and the lens identification codes.

RE: OT: The UK has a new Foreign Minister

How can it be right that a person non-resident in the USA since he was 5 years old, and with no USA-sourced income, AFAIK, be due to pay taxes to the IRS? In any case, tax offsets probably meant nothing was due in the net. Typical media beat-up. John in Brisbane -Original Message-