Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I doubt trump was speaking to his base. That would have required thinking a step ahead, He was merely going tit for tat with China. Getting down in the dirt sometimes works for him. Whatever. Doesn’t matter. He’s ours for at least 10 months. Paul > On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:46 PM, John wrote:

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Ken Waller
Bill, I get that you don’t like the current President of the United Staes, I really do. What I don’t get is why you take every opportunity to inject that dislike into the PDML - its not a political discussion list. We all know where you stand politically so why don’t you take your political

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread John
Trump called it the "Chinese Virus" because he's a racist asshole and was dog-whistling to his "base". On 3/27/2020 19:57:54, Paul Stenquist wrote: “Asian” is a race BTW. And of course we have German Measles. Trump called it “Chinese Virus” because he was angered by China’s feeble attempt to

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread John
I really like the way The New Yorker does its audio of their articles. One of the few "audio-book" type thing I can actually listen to & remember for more than a few minutes. On 3/27/2020 19:11:25, Bob Pdml wrote: On 27 Mar 2020, at 16:52, John Francis wrote: Here in the USA we get

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread John
On 3/27/2020 19:36:56, Bill wrote: On 3/27/2020 4:49 PM, John wrote: I think I mentioned the frequent-flyer friend who had symptoms a couple of weeks ago and was afraid he might have Strep ... and then the shit-storm started and he was afraid he might NOT have Strep. Turned out to be

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread John
I wasn't clear. I didn't think you were suggesting that. But I have seen it suggested elsewhere. On 3/27/2020 20:13:00, P. J. Alling wrote: I didn't say it was, but it is a good start. On 3/27/2020 6:34 PM, John wrote: That came up on another forum. Apparently, current "State of the Art" in

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread P. J. Alling
It could be that the experts are so often wrong.  I'm not saying that Trump is right, but it isn't too long ago that the experts, and the press quoting them were downplaying the effects of this disease, and now they're yelling from the rooftops that everything must be shut down.  Personally

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I didn't say it was, but it is a good start. On 3/27/2020 6:34 PM, John wrote: That came up on another forum. Apparently, current "State of the Art" in gene-engineering viruses leaves behind recognizable markers where the virus DNA (RNA? - I'm not a virologist) has been spliced. Scientists

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
“Asian” is a race BTW. And of course we have German Measles. Trump called it “Chinese Virus” because he was angered by China’s feeble attempt to blame the outbreak in the US military. He wasn’t pleased with the regime’s early attempt to pretend it wasn’t happening. He still should have

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Nothing racist about calling something by where it originates. I used to have an English Cocker Spaniel, is that racist against the English, or the Spanish.  F**k political correctness in all it's myriad forms. The virus originated in China therefor it's a Chinese Virus. On 3/27/2020 5:17

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. Thanks for the smile. Paul > On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > I’d like to suggest that this conversation has reached the point where it is > neither productive nor entertaining. > > Trust me on this, I’m an expert on both. > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I doubt that anything will keep the Republican faithful away from the polls. I’m fiercely independent and haven’t voted Republican very often, but I’ll be watching the Trump/Biden debates carefully. It’s hard to believe that the best the Democrats could come up with was a confused 78 year old.

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Larry Colen
I’d like to suggest that this conversation has reached the point where it is neither productive nor entertaining. Trust me on this, I’m an expert on both. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
“Trump” would be much better. I didn’t vote for him, don’t like him, but I find any kind of name calling childish and distasteful. Paul > On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Bill wrote: > > On 3/27/2020 4:57 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> Dumbo Don is not racist. It’s just juvenile and unnecessary.

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bill
On 3/27/2020 5:11 PM, Bob Pdml wrote: On 27 Mar 2020, at 16:52, John Francis wrote: Here in the USA we get almost daily appearances by Trump in the briefing room at the White House, or in the Rose Garden. He (and the particular accompaniment of the day) are standing practically

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bill
On 3/27/2020 4:57 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Dumbo Don is not racist. It’s just juvenile and unnecessary. Chinese virus isn’t racist either, but it’s unkind. Just like Asian Flu and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. We can all do better. Trashing an Indian man over a term that probably strikes

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bill
On 3/27/2020 4:49 PM, John wrote: I think I mentioned the frequent-flyer friend who had symptoms a couple of weeks ago and was afraid he might have Strep ... and then the shit-storm started and he was afraid he might NOT have Strep. Turned out to be neither, just a nasty version of the flu

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Dumbo Don is not racist. It’s just juvenile and unnecessary. Chinese virus isn’t racist either, but it’s unkind. Just like Asian Flu and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. We can all do better. Trashing an Indian man over a term that probably strikes him as correct is ridiculous. Paul > On Mar

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 27 Mar 2020, at 16:52, John Francis wrote: > > Here in the USA we get almost daily appearances by Trump in the briefing > room at the White House, or in the Rose Garden. He (and the particular > accompaniment of the day) are standing practically shoulder-to-shoulder > at the podium. >

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread John
I think I mentioned the frequent-flyer friend who had symptoms a couple of weeks ago and was afraid he might have Strep ... and then the shit-storm started and he was afraid he might NOT have Strep. Turned out to be neither, just a nasty version of the flu that wasn't covered by this year's

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bill
On 3/27/2020 4:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Of course not. The 25th amendment remedy is almost impossible to enact. So “Chinese Virus” ( coming from an Indian who is probably not hyper sensitive to terminology) is intolerable but “dumbo don” is okay. How odd. Paul I'm not seeing anything

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course not. The 25th amendment remedy is almost impossible to enact. So “Chinese Virus” ( coming from an Indian who is probably not hyper sensitive to terminology) is intolerable but “dumbo don” is okay. How odd. Paul > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Bill wrote: > > On 3/27/2020 10:51 AM,

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread John
That came up on another forum. Apparently, current "State of the Art" in gene-engineering viruses leaves behind recognizable markers where the virus DNA (RNA? - I'm not a virologist) has been spliced. Scientists studying the Corona virus say they have not found any of those markers. On

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread John
Maybe ... unless Mikey gets it first. On 3/27/2020 17:03:00, Bill wrote: So if dumbo don gets it, does the 25th amendment kick in? bill -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Cooking Lessons

2020-03-27 Thread John
I spent 30+ years in the Army and RTFM is my default starting point. I already knew how to level the floor & the stove. The floor was reasonably level (for an 85 year old frame house), as was the old stove itself... except that on that old cheap electric stove all of the heating elements sat

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread ann sanfedele
I second the motion, Bill - ann On 3/27/2020 4:58 PM, Bill wrote: On 3/27/2020 1:34 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: He may be the PM of Great Britain, but he is just as human and a fool to have put himself at risk in some way by contracting the Chinese Virus. For accuracy's sake, lets refer to it

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Rick Womer
A terminology problem is that “mild” is defined as not needing hospitalization. You can be incapacitated by fatigue, fever, and cough for a month, but your case is still “mild.” An epidemiologic problem is that not nearly enough people have been tested and followed to understand the spectrum

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/3/20, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: >For accuracy's sake, lets refer to it as something that doesn't have the >racist dog whistle attached to it please. Seconded. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ UK Shoot / Edit || (O) | -- _ --

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Brian W
> On 28 March 2020 at 07:58 Bill wrote: > > > On 3/27/2020 1:34 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > > He may be the PM of Great Britain, but he is just as human and a fool > > to have put himself at risk in some way by contracting the Chinese > > Virus. > > For accuracy's sake, lets refer to it as

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bill
On 3/27/2020 10:51 AM, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:26:19AM -0600, William R wrote: Interesting that the deniers are the ones getting sick. bill Not really - they're the ones who don't bother with "needless" precautions. Here in the USA we get almost daily appearances by

Re: OT: Cooking Lessons

2020-03-27 Thread Bill
On 3/27/2020 11:23 AM, John wrote: ... maybe "lessons learned" or just observations re: why I love my new stove. Bacon! Because the whole cook-top is level and not just a single heating element, bacon cooks FLAT. All the grease doesn't run to one side of the pan so you don't get one end of

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bill
On 3/27/2020 1:34 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: He may be the PM of Great Britain, but he is just as human and a fool to have put himself at risk in some way by contracting the Chinese Virus. For accuracy's sake, lets refer to it as something that doesn't have the racist dog whistle attached to

Re: Pentax Announces New Lens

2020-03-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Heck, I'm still using the 85 f2.0.  It's small, light weight, (no bigger than a 50mm really), and on APS-C gives something between good and great results. It's just a good thing that my eyes are still pretty good since it's manual focus, and I use it mostly in low light where the green button

Re: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread P. J. Alling
You don't have to be a fool to contract this virus, it appears to be airborne, is reported to be able to survive outside a living body for at least 8-12 hours and you can be infected and not have any symptoms, (as opposed to those who are infected and become deathly ill, and then die), and may

Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bipin Gupta
He may be the PM of Great Britain, but he is just as human and a fool to have put himself at risk in some way by contracting the Chinese Virus. It is like my sister asking us many years ago "does Marilyn Monroe pee or go to the loo"? She

Re: OT: Cooking Lessons

2020-03-27 Thread ann sanfedele
aaah life's simple pleasures!   eggs and bacon. yu ann On 3/27/2020 1:23 PM, John wrote: ... maybe "lessons learned" or just observations re: why I love my new stove. Bacon! Because the whole cook-top is level and not just a single heating element, bacon cooks FLAT. All the grease

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2020-03-27 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 27.03.20 um 18:32 schrieb Larry Colen: I don’t know If I had ever even heard of him before we went to the Egglestone exhibit during the PDML show in Chicago. I do remember that my impression of that show was that I thought that the photos exhibited in our show were, in general, better

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bob Pdml
On 27 Mar 2020, at 17:03, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 27/3/20, William R, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Interesting that the deniers are the ones getting sick. > > I read somewhere that Boris was seen to be shaking hands in a hospital with > coronavirus patients. > > I don't know if

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Bob Pdml
The ‘accompaniment of the day’ looks more and more like the North Korean generals taking notes of all the wisdom erupting from the mouth of Kim Jong Un > On 27 Mar 2020, at 16:52, John Francis wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:26:19AM -0600, William R wrote: >> Interesting that the

Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

2020-03-27 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 27 Mar 2020, at 17:28, John wrote: > > On 3/26/2020 21:35:35, Bob Pdml wrote: >> We are keeping our French classes going over Skype, but it's not as much fun >> as personal contact. > > Have you considered using post cards? Not since about 1983 > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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2020-03-27 Thread Rick Womer
I agree, Larry. After all the buildup, the Eggleston show was a letdown. OTOH, the PDML gallery show was wonderful. Rick > On Mar 27, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> >> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> IN LIVING COLOR >> The Colorful Photographs Of

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2020-03-27 Thread Larry Colen
> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > IN LIVING COLOR > The Colorful Photographs Of Everyday Life That Shocked The Art World And > Changed Photography Forever > > artsy.net

Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

2020-03-27 Thread John
On 3/26/2020 21:35:35, Bob Pdml wrote: We are keeping our French classes going over Skype, but it's not as much fun as personal contact. Have you considered using post cards? -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML

OT: Cooking Lessons

2020-03-27 Thread John
... maybe "lessons learned" or just observations re: why I love my new stove. Bacon! Because the whole cook-top is level and not just a single heating element, bacon cooks FLAT. All the grease doesn't run to one side of the pan so you don't get one end of the strip cooking faster than the

Re: Pentax Announces New Lens

2020-03-27 Thread Doug Brewer
Not heresy at all, Bill, because it depends on what you're looking for in a lens. I find that good lenses designed for film, including of course the 77, have qualities that modulate the ever sharper, ever more detailed efforts of digital sensors available today. If I were more heavily

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/3/20, William R, discombobulated, unleashed: >Interesting that the deniers are the ones getting sick. I read somewhere that Boris was seen to be shaking hands in a hospital with coronavirus patients. I don't know if this is verified or not but would seriously not be surprised. --

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:26:19AM -0600, William R wrote: > Interesting that the deniers are the ones getting sick. > > bill Not really - they're the ones who don't bother with "needless" precautions. Here in the USA we get almost daily appearances by Trump in the briefing room at the White

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread ann sanfedele
not too surprising.. I'm hunkered down - keep meaning to find a photo for April PUG and write a bit more about life here in the  USA epicenter  .. two friends have the virus.. and one I saw after she had warned me not to visit because she felt she was coming down with a cold.. that was March

Re: OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread William R
Interesting that the deniers are the ones getting sick. bill On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, 7:59 am Daniel J. Matyola, wrote: > *Boris Johnson has tested positive* > > > > UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has tested positive for the coronavirus > < >

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2020-03-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
IN LIVING COLOR The Colorful Photographs Of Everyday Life That Shocked The Art World And Changed Photography Forever artsy.net Self-taught photographer William Eggleston's vivid images of

OT: Boris Johnson has tested positive

2020-03-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
*Boris Johnson has tested positive* UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has tested positive for the coronavirus and will

Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

2020-03-27 Thread Larry Colen
> On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:21 AM, mike wilson wrote: > The plan seems to be that the emergency relief volunteers will provide home > services (shopping, etc) for those housebound for various reasons. I asked > what the protocols and supply of PPE was like for the incursions into > possibly

Re: OT Spam

2020-03-27 Thread mike wilson
> On 25 March 2020 at 15:00 Ken Waller wrote: > > > Responding to that spam was probably a mistake as you have now I dentified > yourself as a real person and not just an email address. I realised that later. If it's true, the person behind it is going to extraordinary lengths to harvest

Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

2020-03-27 Thread mike wilson
> On 26 March 2020 at 22:52 Christine Aguila wrote: > > > We just got an emergency alert via our mobile phones that the City of Chicago > is closing down the lakefront, beaches etc, which I think is a good idea. Things are pretty quiet here. Spouse working from home doing essential Police