You mean one of these?
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/TO-Y600.jpg
Sorry there are no transistors in there. However there are ten 9 volt
transistor
batteries in that one, plus 6 D cells. The clock radio is a fairly large one.
It
has no transistors either, just one IC.
P. J.
nicely down to 2x3 or 6x9.
graywolf wrote:
2-1/2 x 3-1/2 was a quarter 5x7 plate just as 3-1/4 x 4-1/4 was a quarter
6-1/2
x 8-1/2 plate and 4x5 was a quarter 8x10 plate. Those were the 2:3, 3:4, and
4:5
ratios that are still pretty much standard today and go back to the early
days
No thanks, I want to use it on my existing camera. However that is about the
price I would want to pay for it.
Your thing I could do manually with my existing digital at no cost, but since I
am not into stilllifes much it would not help me a lot.
Sandy Harris wrote:
On 10/21/07, graywolf
Thinking about girls makes you dumb.
Mark Roberts wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
Paul Sorenson wrote:
Oops...you're right. But it does make you have to do more than just
right click and save. ;} And you do have to be a little more
computer
literate to follow through on it..
Sadly as
Make that my existing 4x5 camera, the Graphic from 1952.
graywolf wrote:
No thanks, I want to use it on my existing camera. However that is about the
price I would want to pay for it.
Your thing I could do manually with my existing digital at no cost, but since
I
am not into stilllifes
at an air show. Dad was too cheap to buy a ticket so we were
parked outside the fence at Willow Run.
John Sessoms wrote:
From: graywolf
A conspiracy theory there, Bob? Personally I like the one for the
nucular engines for the B-1 Bomber. When you are dealing with atomic
energy and you get 10 times
A conspiracy theory there, Bob? Personally I like the one for the nucular
engines for the B-1 Bomber. When you are dealing with atomic energy and you
get
10 times the power output you thought you were supposed to, you do not proceed
with testing.
The fact is that the Blackbird was retired
Another urban legend. The fact is that by the time the bullets slowed that much
their trajectory would have dropped below the aircrafts line of flight.
I saw a training film while in the AF of a pair of F-104's strafing concrete
pillboxes in which they first hit it with rockets and then made a
Because Ike could not congress to pay for the bridge?
Which reminds me of a hoary old joke.
A guy finds an old oil lamp and when polishing it a Genie appears and tells him
gets one wish. So the guy says he wants a bridge from Hawaii to San Fransisco
named after him. The Genie says that is too
Well, Bob, sometime in the 1960's they determined that long straight stretches
of road caused accidents because drivers quit paying attention, so they quit
designing them that way. They actually put in curves where none are needed now.
Also when dealing with governments strange things happen.
When I rode the train through Montana, when was it 2003?, there were actually
NG
troops at the doors of the train at one stop. There were also some US Marshalls
stomping up and down the aisles of the train. I thought for a moment that the
train had wound up somewhere in Europe during the late
The design role of the 104 was never air to air combat. It was designed as a
ground attack aircraft, not as an fighter/interceptor. It had no need for air
to
air combat capability as it could out run any fighter/interceptor in the world
when it was introduced. Also It did not have the
Making a threatening comment about The President is a Federal Felony these
days.
I would think inviting him to commit suicide is a gray area however.
John Sessoms wrote:
From: mike wilson
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Presidents should simply commit hara-kiri when their
Of course, if Pentax was making a modern version, or even the same version, the
used ones would not be going that high. It is unavailability that is making it
valuable.
Igor Roshchin wrote:
About 1.5 years ago, at the very last moment I decided not to place
my bid on e-bay for a Pentax 1.7x
Adorama ripped me off recently. BH has never ripped me off. To each his own, I
guess.
Stan Halpin wrote:
I have had generally good success with both. Adorama has tended to
have better selection of Pentax gear in the last few years. What got
me steamed about my recent experience is that
I want a full frame portable all in one back for my 4x5. It does not have to be
high resolution, 4000x5000 will do fine for me.
How's that for a dream?
Rebekah wrote:
Hopefully a new camera will drive down the price of the K10 :)
But this 'I want FF' thing is really out of proportion IMO.
Or something like a 24x30 or 24x32 frame?
Toralf Lund wrote:
On the other hand, as perhaps someone mentioned earlier, there's a lot
between 1.5x and 1.0x. It's been reported here that the DA lenses
generally cover very nearly the image circle required by 35mm film, so
perhaps they would
on eBay.
Derby Chang wrote:
Me too, graywolf.
Adorama have generally been ok for me, except when I bought the P67
100mm macro, which I am sure the listing said w/ life converter. When
it arrived, no converter. They said they packed everything that came
with the lens. The listing of course
I don't know what it is but it looks like it has RR Merlin engine.
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Hasn't been too dry up here in the mountains, Bill. Kind of nice raining at
night when it would not bother anyone too much. Enough, but not too much, rain
to keep thing growing well during the summer. I am not even getting a lot of
dirt out of the well any more, so the water table is up. Colors
That will be after you counterattack the Romans, correct? We know you have
already counter-attacked the French 314 times since they first invaded you in
1200 BC. Of course the last 313 of those time it has actually been the French
counter-attacking France* but who cares.
GRIN, for those who
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Hasn't been too dry up here in the mountains, Bill. Kind of nice raining at
night when it would not bother anyone too much. Enough, but not too much,
rain
to keep
Force had nothing
that could carry the 58 piggy-back no matter what the original design concept
might have been.
keith_w wrote:
graywolf wrote:
The B-58 never existed. The one I thought I saw on the flight line when I
was in
the Air Force was obviously a figment of my imagination. Or maybe
The B-58 never existed. The one I thought I saw on the flight line when I was
in
the Air Force was obviously a figment of my imagination. Or maybe a cardboard
mockup. Also, either the pilot or Jane's was lying about the performance.
Tom C wrote:
Can we talk about the Lockheed F-104
An interesting comment was in a movie I was watching yesterday. The Movie was
Dingo from 1991 and the John Anderson character wanted the Billy Cross
character
to listen to his demo cassette. Cross said,
I don't want to hear it. If I like it you will think I was just being nice. If
I don't
Now why did I know that was what I was going to see? Annsan with the Cottycam.
Nice shot, Dave.
David Savage wrote:
On 10/17/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The L1 is not little, but a lot smaller than the
Canon 1D...
Godzilla is smaller than the
cost.
-Adam
graywolf wrote:
I don't. It would make me sick knowing I could not afford one.
Cotty wrote:
I wish Olympus or Panasonic/Leica (or even Pentax for that matter )
would make a small digital rangefinder, like about this sort of size.
http://www.cameraquest.com/leicacl.htm
For those who may be interested:
Most of the editors mentioned in this sub-thread are from the Unix/Linux world
although most of them are available for Windows these days (Unix stuff should
run natively on OS-X for the Apple fans). Emacs started out as a text editor
but
has over time evolved
Just because I do not comment does not mean I am condemning a photo. I usually
only comment when a photo does something for me personally. I try not to
criticize photos unless someone asks for technical help. Furthermore I do not
look at a lot of them, because I do not have enough time to do
If all you have is a hammer, then every problem looks like a nail.
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Word is used as the wrong tool for so many jobs it's
incredible.
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No, no, Bruce. You know that you have to have auto-focus for portraiture. I
mean
that subject may move a couple of inches or so between shots.
GRIN
Excellent advice, by the way.
Bruce Dayton wrote:
When shooting paid portaits, I rarely shooter faster than f4, usually
more towards f5.6.
by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from
INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution restricted in
accordance
with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.
Tom C wrote:
1. Graywolf, define competent. Competent This particular image
Tom, with all due respect, you are nuts.
Most folks know when they produce a mediocre image, and eventually learn how
not
to if they don't want to. Note that I phrased that exactly as I meant it. I
have
found that most of my customers over the years wanted mediocre images, and I
learned to
often
feel like an imbecile. Oh well, I am still smarter than some (most) of those
who
think they are smarter than everyone else sickly grin.
How are you doing these days, Marnie?
-graywolf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/17/2007 12:59:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL
Well, once I got rid of the technically bad stuff, it was easy. I let the
customer decide. Commercial as opposed to art photography is easy that way.
I have never been an art photographer, so it was normally up to someone else to
make that kind of decision. The only time it happened that I had
If you can not find camera subjects in Holland or SSM then you are blind. Both
are the kind of place you go to shoot photos on your holiday. Of course I have
not been in either place in the past 20 years, so maybe I am wrong grin.
David J Brooks wrote:
There is a chance i will be going to
Since this has evolved into a WP thread I guess I will comment.
I personally used to prefer LyX, but of course it was only a front end to
LaTeX.
Now LaTeX was the way to go if you were writing long articles, like say a 100
volume encyclopedia. Then I realized that nothing I wrote was more than
Sorry to hear that, Cotty. Seems like problems are never ending.
If you are wondering what that has to do with your post, I have to reply, Not
much GRIN.
Cotty wrote:
Hi gang,
Just thought I'd mention that I have been enabled twice :-)
Thanks to Godders for passing on a K17mm 3.5
I don't. It would make me sick knowing I could not afford one.
Cotty wrote:
I wish Olympus or Panasonic/Leica (or even Pentax for that matter )
would make a small digital rangefinder, like about this sort of size.
http://www.cameraquest.com/leicacl.htm
With Limited lenses it would
Actually the Constitution itself does not limit the governments powers, it is
the Bill of Rights that does that. And the revolutionary fathers forced that
through against quite a bit of opposition, if I remember my history correctly.
Tom C wrote:
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the
You guys are still confusing the right to take the photo, and the right to use
the photo commercially. They are entirely different issues, as I have said
before.
John Sessoms wrote:
From: Adam Maas
This is a very grey area. If your Blazer is parked in a public area
when the picture was
Well, for fine art prints a repro signature would not make it as valuable with
one with an actual hand written signature. Signatures of fameous people have a
pretty good collectors value in their own right. Hummm I will be glad to
sell anyone on the list a personalized autograph for $100,
Yes, india ink with a quill pen is the only proper thing.
David Savage wrote:
On 10/15/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If not matted, fine tip Sharpie.
Not the most archival stable choice.
Cheers,
Dave
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for a
crime that hasn't been committed.
graywolf wrote:
You guys are still confusing the right to take the photo, and the right to
use
the photo commercially. They are entirely different issues, as I have said
before.
John Sessoms wrote:
From: Adam Maas
This is a very grey area
If it were not for cel-phones that last 9-11 airliner would have hit something
too. It seems sad that the price all those folks paid to save others is now
rewarded by an absolute ban on using them???
I would like to make the point that it has been proven over and over that
airlines would not
I understand that casts are pretty much a no-no these days except for bones
that
have a lot bending pressure on them. Interesting how much medical knowledge
turns out to be a fad that changes over time.
David Mann wrote:
On Oct 14, 2007, at 3:21 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Dave,
Sorry to
...there is a pay phone at every seat...
And you wonder why they don't want you using your cel-phone?
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You definitely should wear a helmet, Dave. Hope you heal quickly.
David Mann wrote:
This time around I've done it properly. Fell hard while riding home
from the trails and broke my left collarbone. I tried riding/walking
it off while muttering a mixture of encouragement and obscenity to
One thing Mr Brooks could do is put that copyright water mark in the most
annoying place on the photo, like across the rider and horses face, along with
a
comment, To purchase a copy of this photo without this watermark call,
###-###-.
In the old days many photography studios stamped
I felt there were too many Daves involved.
David J Brooks wrote:
Mr Brooks?? What i di now.
LOL
Yes i think i will change my water mark/copyright statement that is
there now, to something a bit more annoying.
Dave
On 10/13/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing Mr Brooks
Sad story, Dave. The only way I have found to keep people from stealing your
images off the internet, is to not have them on the internet.
Unfortunately the web was never intended to be secure, it was developed by
academics for academics which in this commercial age folks tend to forget. I
100x150 would be better, if you really want them not to download a usable shot
try 40x60.
Cotty wrote:
On 12/10/07, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
Basically, if I can view your image on the screen, I can grab a copy of it.
All you can do is make it harder for me.
I'm thinking
Well you heard it right here. You do not get it from toilet seats. You get it
from doorknobs. I had to run up and wash my hands. No telling who's been using
my keyboard...
Actually since I got it from Goodwill maybe I should spray it with a
disinfectant. No, come to think of it, I wiped it
Har! I had never heard it called that, but it is true to an extent. Red was the
preferred color in landscapes because of the preponderance of green. Yellow was
preferred in seascapes because of the blue. Green and Blue being considered
neutral colors it was felt that a bit of Red or Yellow
The send out is cheaper too.
Scott Loveless wrote:
Glen Tortorella wrote:
Anyway, in the years we have done this, our results with print
processing have been very good. I wish they would offer good BW
print C-41 processing, though. Those two rolls with the purplish
tint disappointed
I would like to point out that Christians are pagans to non-Christians.
Me?
I believe in No-One because one time the doorbell rang and I yelled, Who's
there?.
A young sounding voice answered, No-One.
And sure enough when I opened the door no one one was there.
Mark Roberts wrote:
John
Well, the ones in the US, anyway.
Mark Roberts wrote:
Adam Maas wrote:
It's not worth the effort for Adobe. There's little piracy of their
consumer apps(dunno how many legit copies of Elements 2 I've got, at
least 3), and they only care if businesses pirate the pro apps (Since
that is
Could be they are just looking for the publicity.
P. J. Alling wrote:
Which would be true, except the photographer who can sell an image for
$4000.00 is selling as much or more on his or her name as the actual
subject matter. I doubt that the Plantation Foundation, would be able to
sell
WHY? Why Do you guys keep insisting on posting these links without any info? If
you were getting paid per hit I could understand. But why not just say here is
a
link to a cute paper cut out of a Pentax MX? Then the folks who are interested
can check it out and those who are not can save the
property, at which point the question becomes one of straight
trespass).
-Adam
graywolf wrote:
It is not a copyright or trademark issue. It is a property rights issue.
There
is nothing stopping you from taking a photo of my Blazer, but since with its
unique pattern of red primer
:___
PHONE: __
E-MAIL:__
--graywolf
P. J. Alling wrote:
This just so completely confuses copyright and trademark
Do we know that? That is what the reporter said, but I would think the
attorneys
involved would know better. Just as some here seem to confuse copyright and
property rights, so do reporters, sigh! That is the problem with trying an
issue
via news reports, and why hearsay is not given much
Well those are rather different in time. But I remember there was an ad for a
French bicycle back in the 1890's that showed a nude lady hanging onto the
handlebars flapping in the wind like a banner, so your point is pretty accurate.
Bob W wrote:
Cycling in England:
1) the suit it meritless or 2) there's an
important element to the story which was not published in the report.
Tom C.
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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, but in that case copyright law is being
twisted out of recognition. You don't own a copyright ion your truck or
image. That's not why you get a release.
graywolf wrote:
The issue is not the right to take photographs, Peter. The issue is the
right to
commercial gain from someone else's property
Yep, that is the one I was thinking of.
P. J. Alling wrote:
As luck would have it right now on e-bay, (1903 vintage actually)
http://tinyurl.com/33jeh9
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Very OT: Truth in advertising?
Well those
Well, as to the legality, one does not have the right to sell images of someone
else's clearly identifiable property without their permission. One does have
the
right to take the photos, without violating any laws of trespass, it is selling
the images that is questionable. One would assume
and simple, if he
had permission to be there, and had a camera with him, then that
permission had to be revoked, (or given with stipulations to begin
with), for even that to be the case.
graywolf wrote:
Well, as to the legality, one does not have the right to sell images of
someone
I did not know Norris was a red-head...
Personally, I think Mark looks like a leprechaun.
ann sanfedele wrote:
Mark Roberts wrote:
ann sanfedele wrote:
Then I turned on the Tv (watching old movies and tv shows is what I
need to fall asleep) and an old WALKER, TEXAS RANGER
show
Besides that, the proper way to close down an airport is to provide notice that
it is to be closed by a particular date. Not having ditches dug across the
runway in the middle of the night...
Paul Sorenson wrote:
Not entirely true, Grasshopper. A search of the NTSB General Aviation
Yah, yah, and what is the guy who posts a link to such a politically charged
site?
Just to save folks the trouble it is a Russian site with photos of supposedly
American soldiers who have paid a rather terrible price with their heroism,
mostly loss of limbs; as if they do not have enough of
At least they did not give him a card saying there was a vegetarian restaurant
on the other side of town, happened to a friend of mine. Thankfully, I am of
the
opinion that vegetables are what food eats.
Cotty wrote:
On 01/10/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
About a week
Remember, the best camera is the one you have with you when you want to take a
photo.
ann sanfedele wrote:
Cotty wrote:
On 30/09/07, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:
but which am I? a Pentonian? or a Cantaxian?
You're a photographer my dear. You use what suits you and
Must be global warming.
BTW, I recently came across a reference that claimed the rise in sea level from
the ice age was in the order of 300-400 feet.
Bob W wrote:
We had an unusually high tide on the Thames today. I took
some photos
with my mobile phone:
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Propaganda is a loaded word.
Regards, Bob S.
On 9/27/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times
If the Iwo Jima photo was taken in a studio in California is it an any
less
Well, I tried to answer before but my IS was refusing connections to its smtp
server.
The problem is you are assigning value to the word that it really does not
have.
Propaganda is not good or evil. That depends upon by who and why it is being
used. Basically all the word means is that the
Wow, Thunderbird claimed that it could send this because it could not connect
to
the smtp server, but here it is.
And while I was typing this a pop up from AVG popped up saying,
Test cannot be started because it already does not exist.
I think my computer is haunted.
graywolf wrote
A long long time ago in a land far far away the king was expected to be out in
front of the pawns leading them.
Now they lead from the rear. Preferably from another continent. That was most
likely the scariest part of the idea of nuclear war to them, there was no rear
for them to lead from.
I used to keep Fuji Superia in 100, 400, and 1600 speed in my camera bag. I
have
always preferred to use the slowest film I could get away with. For slides my
favorite was Agfa Provdia (sp?) 100. Since I quite often had partial rolls
developed I only bought 24x roll. Fugi Press was supposedly
at all her
writing, and the many consequences of her writing.
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Why
://tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times
Why is it so interesting? I see nothing that makes any difference to
anyone but
a few folks who want to be taken for pundits. The lighting shows that
the
sun
Har!!!
Scott Loveless wrote:
Marbles.
P. J. Alling wrote:
Falcon air evac bottles.
1/2 gallon
http://tinyurl.com/2kctld
full gallon
http://tinyurl.com/399yud
Bob Blakely wrote:
It would be nice if the bottles had bladders so that they could be capped
half used without any air to
That was not a problem until you go near the bottom of the bottle, then you
just
used a finger to partially block the mouth. Marbles were the standard thing
back
in the 1950's.
Bob Blakely wrote:
Ingenious, but what do you do about the marbles trying to run out with the
developer when you
Pooka
Gonz wrote:
Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether
Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare.
On 9/26/07, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frank, didn't you read the fine print? In Title 9, section 4,
paragraph 110, Item b) : No work shall be accepted from the class
That is always the problem with databases. BTW, Adobe bridge can attach all
kinds of info and catagories to your photos, but it does still have the problem
that you have to enter the info and select the catagories.
Boris Liberman wrote:
I think LightRoom can do most if not all that you
Acting under color of law, huh Frank?
frank theriault wrote:
On 9/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The first amendment: Congress shall make no law... or abridging the
freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably
to assemble, and to petition the
They probably did a restore on their mail server at your ISP, and wound up
restoring some old mail too. Would not worry about it unless it keeps happening.
Walter Hamler wrote:
I do not understand what is going on here. The origonal post I made was
first posted a few months ago I believe.
Why is it so interesting? I see nothing that makes any difference to anyone but
a few folks who want to be taken for pundits. The lighting shows that the sun
was more overhead in the second photo, but if the photographer was into faking
his photos, he could well have lied about the time he took
I notice that everyone is saying that darkroom chemical flumes are heavier than
air, but every commercial darkroom I have used has had the exhaust fan high and
the inlet low. Usually the inlet vent was baffled in a stud space so the pickup
was high on the outside of the wall so it would not pick
Well folks just have to wait until they get computer that will easily handle
the
new OS, they usually come out just before MS issues an new OS that is a dog on
them.
P. J. Alling wrote:
Unfortunately this happens every time MS decides to release new
bloatwear. Anger followed by rejection
Not really, most libraries only keep the paper copies until the microfiche, or
CD, copies come out. In fact many just use an internet service for such things.
Most non-research libraries do not keep much of anything old anymore. Of course
the Library of Congress probably has a couple of
You are using a Mac, everything should be perfect with no effort on your part.
At least that is what all the Mac fanatics tell us GRIN.
Rick Womer wrote:
I decide to try to relax this afternoon by printing
some pix.
Big mistake.
First, printing from Lightroom is different from
printing
Yes I have, and I understand the Oceans influence on weather just about to the
level of that article, which means not real well but I have heard about it.
Cotty wrote:
On 23/09/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:
Also the UK is tempered by the warm gulfstream
current just being
).
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:07:03PM -0400, graywolf wrote:
An interesting thing I noticed browsing through my Atlas the other day is
that
Oz is in the same latitude range as Mexico, only south rather than north. I
had
unthinkingly imagined it being farther south. Gor, I couldn't stand the heat
will have a lot more
money into it than you would think at first.
Digital Image Studio wrote:
On 22/09/2007, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the things that folks may not be realizing is that except for its high
resolution this thing is more like a security camera than an ENG camera
with the news content in the issue), but --even in
china-- you had better have a written release from anyone you put up on a
billboard
-graywolf
Mark Roberts wrote:
Juan Buhler wrote:
The article writes doesn't seem to have an understanding of what
Creative Commons really is.
Nor do
One of the things that folks may not be realizing is that except for its high
resolution this thing is more like a security camera than an ENG camera. You
can
buy a color security camera the size of a pack of cigarettes these days for
$50-100. That kind of puts the $17,500 in perspective.
Trying to get a lot more than modeling fees, aren't they?
Oh well, the company is obviously run by crooks, so it deserves whatever the
courts do to them. Too bad the idiots are protected behind their corporate
front.
BTW, tell us again about Americans being sue happy...
(This post is an
$25 is a good price for an event photo, however you expect to sell more than
one
photo from an event.
On the other hand for a so called fine art photo a $100 is dirt cheap. Framed
and matted $200 is dirt cheap. In the couple of places in Boone that sell fine
art photos the prices seem to be
I think Pentax's rule is they only sell what the dealer has on the shelf. Then
they make no effort to get the dealer to stock anything. More they won't give
the dealer what he wants even when he tries to stock it. Then folks on the list
wonder why the dealer tries to steer them to something
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