, but it strikes me as a
terrible gamble to make such investments over the internet, unseen.
Are you planning to go over there and look for one?
Btw, to make this on-topic, you could always claim you wish to take
your Pentax for a circumnavigation. :-)
Best,
Jostein
2008/3/7, Pål Jensen [EMAIL
Sorry about the OT message but I'm considering buying a 42ft Grand Banks
motor yacht from Florida. Anyoneone who knows the general state of the
market and whether asking prices are (very) inflated?
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Boats are a bigger money looser than sports
cars/racing, photography, women children combined.
Reply:
Due to the almost worthless dollar, the Grand Banks yachts are almost half
price in the US compared to market prices in
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentax basically ignored the 35mm market for several decades and did
have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today?
I think it is wrong to think medium format. Medium format used a certain
film type that
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look at the K10D. :-) While I appreciate the low price, it's got to be
hard to make money on a body that depreciates by 50% in one year. It
makes me wonder if they are still in the production line. Some of the
stores selling at $999
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Given the reports on Hoya's management priorities, I can't see them
allowing
Pentax to embark down a road on a niche-market, low-volume product.
According to Pentax and subsequently Hoya they want to be niche maker
concentrating
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The market changes fast. I think Pentax missed the mark with the 645D.
If
it was released 2 years ago it might have had a chance.
No chance at all. It would have been far too expensive. Only when the cost
is right will a 645D
- Original Message -
From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All true, but BH still list a number of 645 lenses, most in stock.
Pentax's immediate challenge would be some normal and wide-angle 645
lenses, and they already have a new normal lens on the lens map.
The MF lenses are still
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've heard that it was designed as a D-FA lens for full-frame coverage
(but optimized for digital with the latest anti-reflective coatings)
and the designation was changed to DA because it has no aperture ring.
On the
Tom Wrote:
Are you sure those lenses are in production? Designed maybe, but I would
think otherwise in the same status as the 645D. They're not making lenses
for a camera that's not on the production line.
I'm not expecting it or holding my breath, but to me it makes *more sense*
to produce a
- Original Message -
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So what makes you think Pentax can do any better than Hassleblad,
Maymia, Leaf etc?
REPLY:
Because the companies listed above a backyard businesses in size compared to
Pentax and have to make all their earnings from selling
- Original Message -
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:56 PM
Subject: Nikon D300 sample photos
http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/products/camera/slr/digital/d300/sample.htm
That raises one question. Is it wort it? I seen Pentax K10D
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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I still have a hard time believing that this stuff actually
displaced Kodachrome as the saturated slide film of choice. Kodachrome
may have been highly saturated but it still had some relationship to the
colors of nature.
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I
can't believe that Pal would need to boost saturation or contrast on a
scan
from Velvia. He showed like images a year or more ago, and I don't recall
having the same negative reaction to the saturation back then. DOn't know
if
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exactly which ones are the newer ones you've been having issues with?
The five first ones. But now I have reposted them without saturation boost.
They do not look as vibrant as the slides.
This one:
I have added a few more images to my portfolio at Photo.net.
Unfortunately, I can't get decent quality when posting to the web. I have to
boost brightness, contrast and saturation so that particularly the sky in
some images look uneven. Anyway, here they are. Comments welcomed.
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Some great shots, but most are oversaturated, some are too bright and too
contrasty. If you set the colorspace to SRGB and do a Save for Web in
PhotoShop, you shouldn't have any problems maintaining the look of your
original on
I'm using Velvia
- Original Message -
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: A few more images
Pål Jensen wrote:
I have added a few more images to my portfolio at Photo.net
- Original Message -
From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You need to look at these with a calibrated monitor!
They are =certainly= not bluish, without contrast, or
undersaturated! In fact, if anything, they tend in
the opposite direction.
Gorgeous scenes and compositions; I'd love
images
Pål Jensen wrote:
Ok. So how does this one looks
(http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6406548) (I'll only keep it
here for a short while)
compared to this one:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6405827
The first one is a save for web from the original but it looks bland
- Original Message -
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: A few more images
Pål Jensen wrote:
Thank you Mark! That did the trick it seems. I didn't have the right
color
space. I'm
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Still super vivid from here I sure wish you could come over here,
look over my shoulder, and tell me if it looks like you want it to
from here. WOW that's a lot of color. I kinda like it, though.
REPLY:
After all,
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Film/digital ? Not that it matters, just curious.
REPLY:
Film. Velvia. Medium Format. Pentax 645NII. Mostly
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From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Whatever you are trying to acheive it's not working, the degree of
saturation that I'm seeing really detracts from what are otherwise a
spectacular set of landscape images. They just do not look remotely
realistic.
- Original Message -
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A wonderful collection of outdoor images !
Location, location , location - with no disrespect to your photographic
ability.
REPLY:
Thanks!
The location is mostly a radius of a few kilometres from home. Often a
10minute
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From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So is your scanner calibrated to a reference Velvia film target such
as the one below?
http://www.targets.coloraid.de/
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/it8cal/it8_page_3.htm
Anyway, the light was in most of the images
I'm trying to upload a few pictures to my portfolio at Photo.net.
However, when I save the files as JPEGs I loose some saturation; not so much
to bother much about but I can't remember noticing it the last time I did
this.
More serious though is that when I upload the images to my portfolio at
Color space is sRGB
- Original Message -
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Photoshop problem?
Pål Jensen wrote:
I'm trying to upload a few pictures to my portfolio at Photo.net
Godfrey wrote:
- Are you editing on a calibrated monitor?
- What is your default working colorspace?
- Are you converting from your working colorspace to sRGB?
REPLY:
No. The monitor is not calibrated. However, I have no real mismatch between
monitor and prints.
The default working space is
- Original Message -
From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I ordered this lens on the 6th of May from TechnikDirekt.de, but it is still
unkwon when the lens will be delivered due to supply problems of the
supplier. I also noticed shops like TeKaDe.de and fotokonijnenberg.nl don't
have
Can anyone tell why images scanned with my 9000 scanner becomes rather
magentaish when opened in Photoshop? They are perfectly OK in the scanner
program. I've tried changing color settings in both programs but to no
effect.
Pål
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It isn't a colour management issue in Photoshop is it?
Edit/Color Settings.
Make sure you don't have something obviously wonky in there.
After that, I just don't know
REPLY:
I've tried that. Can't find anything wonky, but
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pal, I've had many dozens of frames scanned on a Nikon 9000 without
ever noticing a magenta cast.
REPLY:
Nothing wrong with scans. They are perfectly OK in all other programs except
Photoshop where they turn magenta...
Pål
Margus wrote:
What sector they are talking about???
REPLY:
The endoscope sector...
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Amita wrote:
Nate and I are planning our next trip, to Iceland. We will probably go
in August. I've been reading and I know there are endless photographic
opportunities there, but I was wondering if you guys know about
anything in particular that I shouldn't miss. We are tentatively
planning to
Tim wrote:
Another reason for preferring FA* was that he found the Ltd more a piece of
jewellery. He expected he would feel a bit uncomfortable with using it
outdoor under rough conditions. I can sympathise with this. The built of the
FA* begs for real life use.
He asked me if I felt the FA* to
Mark wrote:
The question now
is - what kind of camera manufacturer will Hoya be?
REPLY:
Theres no reason to assume they want to be a camera manufacturer. In the
press release it is all about medical and optics; not electronics in digital
cameras. This is a way to strenghten Pentax medical
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You know, I've been reading for years, from people I trust on this list
and elsewhere, that the primary advantage of USM/HSM/SSM/whatever is
that it's quiet rather than faster. No one should be surprised at this
point.
How
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: Best way to clean those difficult Multicoatings?
Oh no, I use alcohol nearly all the time and it works wonders
Oh..that
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From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: I do not believe Pentax¹s AF has been slow even on the current lenses.
Mechanical noise during AF might give impression of slow AF, but it is on
par with competitions using the benchmark test.
REPLY:
Spot on. Thats what I've
- Original Message -
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Others also complimented the performance of the 45 and 35 mm lenses.
For what its worth I found the FA645 45/2.8 to be a pretty weak performer.
It is no better than the zooms covering this range (the FA645 45-85/4.5 is
Shel:
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How do you know the part in question costs $5.00? Does the $5.00 reflect
only the cost of materials, or does it include any manufacturing and setup
costs to implement the item in cameras that were designed not to include
the part?
If it cost $5 and you
- Original Message - Wow! So if they sold 2 million cameras it
would be 10 million! Think
of all the savings they could make if they did not manufacture
cameras!
This feature, like all others, has been and would be sold to the
customer.
Sorry, but this is not how it works. The
Five million dollars in extra profit is great for any comapany; particularly
in a field that traditionaly loose money
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: The
a whole bunch of itty bitty
Parts and were hand assemebled essentially and sold
For dirt cheap.
jco
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Pål Jensen
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:22 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have over 20 years in product engineering and lived
With marketing guys on my back all that time. Heres
How it works : When (and if ) you add or remove features
From products, the bottom line is, does it ADD ( or remove )
- Original Message -
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Pentax owns the importers, and can do whatever they want to them.
They don't. They may own some...
Pål
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No, I didn't buy any new K/M lenses or A,
They were already discontinued
Years before I bought my first Pentax K
Body in 1990. I already explained this to you.
Duh. You have a very short memory. I don't
Have any AF
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentax doesn't offer full K/M support on DSLRs.
They never have, it's not likely they ever will.
Isn't that conclusion somewhat premature? Theres still the posibility of the
KAF3 mount that is fully compatible with older
- Original Message -
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Listen, you mindless twit, if you cant add something
To the discussion other than your vulgar
Insults, then get lost.
At least this stuff gives me plenty of good laughs
Pål
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From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, if Pentax was a company that communicated better with its
customers, those customers wouldn't have to grope around in the dark so
much. In the absence of support from the company, we turn to lists such
as this. Doug,
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I've got a mate telling me a high res drum scan of a 6x7 neg would only be
10MB in
TIFF format. Surely it would be in the hundreds of MB neighbourhood
wouldn't it?
The TIFF files from scans from 6X4,5 format on the Nikon 9000ED
- Original Message -
From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From the 1st user samples I have just seen, it shares the same bright-ring
bokeh as the FA77. Not that I am complaining but wonder if other 85 could
do
better.
I believe ring bokeh happens due to the laws of optics (physics)
So what is the estimated street price???
Pål
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Program mode is for idiots.
Bravo!
Mark!
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John, why don't you get off this particular pot of shite.
Oh no! It is entertaining.
The best information that anyone onlist has been able to get is that the
aperture simulator coupling is a gone, never to return.
I'm
- Original Message -
From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The mechanical coupler is gone for good, and there's no reason for
Pentax to reimplement it.
We don't know that for a fact. Pentax have patented a new lens mount, KAF3
that support everything. It could be marketed in a product
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another part of the rumor is that it might be an F5.6. We will just have
to wait and see.
I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much better
served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the
There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can
anyone confirm this?
This is a dream lens for me
Pål
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Why D-FA, not DA?
REPLY:
Because it doesn't make much sense to make long telephoto lenses with
restricted image circles. A 400/4 will be exactly equally long and have
exactly equally large front element in both D FA* form and
Yes, thats what the rumor said. Second half of 2007 after the D FA* 200/2.8
ED IF and the D FA* 300/4 ED IF.
- Original Message -
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It is not on the new roadmap. But who knows if they plan to release
it after new 200 and 300 mm???
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How big enlargements can one expect to get out of a 10mp DSLR like the K10D?
A3 format?
I've never used a digital camera
Pål
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The Pentax K10D brochure claim print size up to 50 X 70cm. Is this just hype
or what? I certainly cannot print that large from my 645 slides.
- Original Message -
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
it depends. I've made 20x30 inch prints from 6mp (*ist D) by upsizing
and
Any experience with this lens? A good one?
I'm planning to buy the DA* 16-50/2.8 lens for the K10D in due course.
However, I need something wider as well and Pentax doesn't offer a prime
lens that is wider than 16mm except for the 14/2.8 which is too close to the
16mm to make much sense. Hence,
I've added four images to my portfolio at Photo.net:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609
They are all shot in august this year with the Pentax 645NII and the
Pentax645 33-55/4.5 lens close to home.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5030349
This is a four
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From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not to mention using proven, off the shelf parts, unlike much of the
645D (including the sensor).
REPLY:
The 645D chassis, mirror box, finder system, shutter assembly are right off
the shelf. The camera electronics is almost
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/
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Am I really the only one who uses and loves this feature?
Probably
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would also by a 400 with USM if it's
offered, and I can afford it.
I really hope for a 400/4. It is about the longest and fastest lens that can
be hand-held. With the 1,5X multiplication with the DSLR bodies, and perhaps
DA won't make it smaller or cheaper
- Original Message -
From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: SMC Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF USM (WAS: Re: Lens in motor or
not?USM?)
On 9/2/06, Pål
discontinued in
the last 2-3 years, such as the FA80-200mm f2.8 FA200mm f4 macro,
are going through a re-design to take advantage of the new (to Pentax)
USM technology.
I'll be very disappointed, if we don't see DFA versions appear in the
next year or 2.
Dave
On 9/2/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL
He's authored this article on the battle for the 10% of the DSLR
market not owned by the big two.
One of the reason these company own this much of the market is bevause they
have basically been left alone...
This is about to change. Particularly Sonys marketing and engineering muscle
will
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese
companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in
detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the
company was bought by the
- Original Message -
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am sure a metal top plate would not have broken off in similar
circumstances, though the breaking of the plate might have spared other
parts of the camera from more stress.
When I sold my Z-1p years ago I replaced all body
- Original Message -
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's true. And there were some unquestionably PRO bodies with
plastic outer shall: Canon EOS-1n, Minolta Dynax 9xi and our own
Pentax 645n ;-) All these bodies proved to be tough and reliable even
under quite severe
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
With all the speculation about what we might (or might not) have
coming in the K10D I suddenly realized that no one has mentioned a
couple of the things that I would most like to see improved over the
ist cameras.
Metering
- Original Message -
From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now, maybe he isn't right... I dunno.. maybe simply the fact that
someone reports it to be coming, then suddenly people to get an
interest in it?
Actually, the USM rumors stared in the late 90's; not a year ago!
Pål
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FWIW, Pentax expected DLSR sales volumes are dwarfed by even Sony.
They are only 6% marketshare behind Sony and is the fastest growing DSLR
manufacturer at present. If Sony doesn't release anything hot at Photokina
the K100 and K10D
- Original Message -
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It would be interesting to have possibility of adapting K100D for USM
lenses ;-) But it is also possible that they planned to include USM
support in K100D and dropped it because it wasn't complete and they
wanted to
Full metal body (Metal outside and inside, inspired by MZ-S
construction)
This is extremely unlikely and unthinkable at the rumored price.
BTW The whole list is just an assemblages of the rumors floating around
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From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So my real vote is no USM capability for the K100D :-).
Many people might wish this be wrong and I have absolutely no foundation
in
predicting anything on this.
The problem I have with this is that it is at odds with Pentax
- Original Message -
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would the opposite also be correct? Would USM lenses work as AF lenses
on screw-driver bodies? Would they even work as MF lenses?
My guess is that they will work as MF lenses only. They might not have
aperture rings
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So let me get this right. If USM or it's Pentax-monikered equivalent is
introduced, anyone that wants to take advantage of it is going to have
to buy new lens(es) ?
Yes, but I want new lenses anyway. A lack something between 200
- Original Message -
From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyway, it seems that everyone thinks the KAF3 is all for in-lens AF,
so that goes up unless someone objects.
But even if it has USM does have to use the KAF3 mount? As I remember it the
KAF3 uses all the mecahnical
???
Any news, Rumors???
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You have lost the plot. It was about USM lenses functionality on older
bodies. Not older AF lenses on the K10D...
I have never suggested Pentax will not support screw drive AF
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Sent:
. September.
And no, I'm not in the know of anything on this one. :-(
Jostein
On 8/31/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
???
Any news, Rumors???
Pål
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Now, that's a longer explanation than the one I intended to write, but
the point is that the AF chip has work to do while the motor is moving.
Are you saying that this is now negligible?
It is why Canons NEED manual
- Original Message -
From: KEN TAKESHITA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As Canon themselves admit, cameras with FF
sensors would be too big and heavy to carry. Cameras not carried
would be photos not taken.
They don't have to be as big. The Pentax 645D is in fact smaller and will
have twice
- Original Message -
From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the difference between the two glass 120/220
film holders? One rotates, one doesn't?
No idea what the use for the rotating film holder is. A glass holder is
mandatory for scanning MF on the 9000ED scanner.
- Original Message -
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However, Sony brand
should be really at work here.
Interestuing to see how Sony will fare in the future. My understanding is
that the Sony brand is quite strong in Japan and in the US. However, in the
rest of the world Sony
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Surely not...
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon_medium_format_2ff.html
At least it looks better than the digital Rebels. This after all seem to
involve a designer
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People are moving, and Canon looks oldfashioned.
I think that the brand perception with digital is moving away from the
structure it had for film cameras. Camera are now consumer electronic
products, an area where brand recognition
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I'd like to point out that these figures are only for Japan and do not
necessarially reflect the worldwide picture.
Sure, but the japanese have a tendency of pioneering world-wide trends when
it comes to photo equipment.
Pål
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's not what the new K10D is offering ... you'll just have to wait
and
see. Hopefully, Aaron and his source are correct about the new feature.
But we have only seen this feature on paper, not in real life. Lets see
- Original Message -
From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't just pick the wrong one on the *ist D I also often turn it the
wrong way.
Same here with the Z-1p. I used the camera for 6 years but still
consistently turned the dials the wrong way and poked my eye in the
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Except the thumbwheels are better than the aperture control on the
lens. With two thumbwheels, like those on the *istD, one can adjust
either shutter or aperture while keeping both hands firmly on the
camera and a finger on
- Original Message -
From: Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have heard rumors that the K10D might be similar in
size and build to the D200. If that were true, I'd be
thrilled...
It is significantly smaller than the D200 and will give better image
quality. I have no idea how it
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