I don't know about president. He already has a pretty good job. But he
sure gave a good speech. You should be proud.
Cotty wrote:
Tony Blair for President :-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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frank theriault wrote:
Dear me. Did a politician say something remotely interesting? And I
missed it!
What happened? Did someone find a WMD in Iraq?
waiting patiently,
frank
Robert Harris wrote:
I don't know about president. He already has a pretty good job. But he
Mike Johnston wrote:
So they're about to blow the crap out of Baghdad. How the hell should I know
why they're doing it? Oil? Politics? Warmongering? Too much saber-rattling
to back down now? Can't find bin Laden and got to take it out on somebody?
Christ, I have no idea. But whatever the reason
Mike Johnston wrote:
I'm either off the list, or the Digest has stopped again. Haven't had any
word from the PDML in 24 hours or more.
--Mike
Lucky you. A little peace. :)
Amita:
I was off the list for quite a while and missed the great event.
Congratulations and best wishes, etc.
Beautiful bride, by the way. :)
Best
Bob
Amita Guha wrote:
Hey everyone, I've been taking a little break from the list, getting
some other stuff done, but I'm back now, ready to
Thanks for the link, Wendy. Interesting.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dumb Newbie Q #4 -- When/how do you take your shots?
I hate to reveal my ignorance but what is a chimney pot?
http://www.thechimneypotshop.com/
W.
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Wendy Beard
Mosaid
!!
I'm going to get a lot of pleasure out of this site g.
What do you think of that, Robert!
I may start with making up a catalog, and go from there.
keith whaley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dumb Newbie Q #4 -- When/how do you take your shots?
I
Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote:
[big snip]
When I asked Ilya why the guy had taken so few shots, he explained how it's
been proven that each time you take someone's picture, you take away part
of their life energy. Whoever owns the print can hurt the person in the
picture by--I
There now is an official announcement and press release on their
deaths at:
http://www.mountainlight.com/
Bob
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Len Paris wrote:
If you need the money that selling the LX will provide for
paying the rent or feeding your family, sell the LX.
Wrong advice Len. Should be sell the family.
Bob
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William Robb wrote:
Not surprised you got the wrong answer. Pink Floyd is far more
meaningful to most people than the above mentioned wall (which I
had only vaguely heard of, I might add).
William Robb
Speak for yourself, please.
What is a Pink Floyd? Some sort of silly drink?
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For consideration of practicalities, aside from transportation.
If folks want to use tripods, someone better check on whether it is
possible at all sites under consideration.
I have never had a problem using a tripod in Central Park. I am less
familiar with the two botanical gardens, but from
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
[snip]
We should make a separate batch of email not to the list about this about
this,shouldn't we?
If anyone does make such a list, please include me on it. I do not know
if I can make it; working on a project that is keeping me busy 7 days a
week for the
Ryan K. Brooks wrote:
Hi all,
Somewhat of a flash-newbie here. I do mostly landscape and available
light shooting, but I've got a really neat bird nest (complete with three
young and two very caring parents) easily accessable thru a window.
I've been shooting (moderately
Bob Walkden wrote:
Hi,
I've just found a very interesting web-site which I thought I'd pass
on: http://www.tpw.it/.
It's a workshop in Tuscany, Italy.
[snip]
If only I had the money and the time...
The story of my life, and not just about photography. sob
Bob
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Amita Guha wrote:
1) Pros don't shoot Pentax or Yashica (I'm going to get
creamed here).
That's ok, I'd rather be a geek w/a Pentax than a snobby pro with a
Nikon any day. :)
Gee, Amita. You don't look like a geek. Just a little bit peculiar,
perhaps, that's all.
Bob
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David Brooks wrote:
[snip]
grabbed the one K1000 i thought was
empty and popped the back Arr,a
roll of 160vc still in it(about 25-27 shot)
Quiry,Is the whole roll kaput or would some of
the pictures in the takeup spool be ok.Back was
open for about 2 sec as i stared
Artur Ledóchowski wrote:
Hi,
I carry my two cameras - MZ-5n and Program A - very often. I usually do it this way:
my main camera is the MZ-5n, so I hang it on my neck. The Program A (mostly a back-up
body) is, on the
other hand, hanged on my left shoulder, NOT on my neck and together with
frank theriault wrote:
[snip]
A problem I've had with the one around the neck, and the other slung around a
shoulder method, is that the shoulder camera just isn't as instantly
accessable as the neck one.
The solution to this one is to get an LX, which you should have anyway.
:) Put both
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
My comment wasn't intended to start an argument or debate about zooms v
primes. It was a rhetorical question and an offhand way to suggest that
a faster prime might be a better alternative than a slower zoom in
Maris's situation.
Perhaps I should have phrased my
Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote:
[big snip]
...is there any truth to the rumor that the pointed-haired boss on
Dilbert is being groomed for an executive VP position at Kodak? ;-)
Gee, I heard that he was going to take over Pentax North America
marketing. He has the skills needed to
Bill Owens wrote:
The argument between zooms and primes is unwinnable...
It's kinda like the argument about what makes a professional camera.
It's worse, because everybody knows enough not to take the pro camera
stuff seriously, but I think some people take the nonsense of zooms vs.
Laura Cavaliere wrote:
I'm really an Italian female list member and I
think Bob that there are other 3-4 Italian members.
Yes, Laura. I know that now. I have been privately but forcefully
reminded by one of the distinguished Italian men that I cannot count. :)
Bob
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Laura Cavaliere wrote:
Hi everybody!
I'm now a new member of the PDML.
There are a lot of beautiful photos in the PUG.
I take my photos with my K1000 and a MZ5N, but I prefer the first one that I
bought it 1988 when i didn't know anything about taking photo and so on.
ciao
Laura
Treena Harp wrote:
Don't you all think it's time to nip this thread in the bud??
Don't you mean snip?
Bob
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Here we go again.
I hope that nobody starts discussing what makes a portrait
professional somewhere along the line or this thread will never end.
Bob
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Chris Brogden wrote:
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Robert Harris wrote:
Here we go again.
I hope that nobody starts discussing what makes a portrait
professional somewhere along the line or this thread will never end.
That's easy. It's the camera.
But what makes the camera professional? Seems
Bruce Dayton wrote:
[snip]
Now I guess I'm going to have to try the high speed synch and see how
well it does. Also, remember that fill flash is usually compensated
down a stop or two, which helps bring back the guide number a bit.
I hope you will report back here on how it goes. There
Bruce Dayton wrote:
Mishka,
What are you needing 1/1000 flash synch for? Would not the MZ-S and
AF360FGZ do the job you are asking for? It can synch up to 1/6000. Or
is flash distance a problem?
Has anybody actually used this feature, who can tell us how it works in
the real world?
Thanks for you input, Andreas. I went to BH Photo and bought the thing
today. Will give it a tryout this weekend.
Bob
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tested the Pentax 24-90 vs the Tamron 24-135. I'd give a very slight edge
to the Pentax for optics, but the extra range of the Tamron is nice. Both
are very good zooms opticallyboth very consistent over the ranges. A
tough choice.
Robert James
Thanks
Paris, Leonard wrote:
This is just an observation. If a lens I own says 18mm on it and it's
really 18.75mm, it's no big deal to me, and I'm not going to start building
a database of the exact tested focal lengths.
I am not sure anyone tests many of them these days, anyway. Relying on
my
The Pentax 24-90 zoom has been out for a while and has been referred to
on this list a number of times. I am considering buying one, mainly for
travel and walking-around-with-one-lens use. I have two 28-70 zooms, the
f4 and the f2.8. Both are fine and have served me well, but just do not
have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What lens have you decided to sell in
the past that you wish you could take back now.
About 8 years ago I shifted to auto-focus to accommodate aging eyes. And
I was moving to Russia and wanted to limit what I took with me. So I
sold off most of my A lenses.
I am
Bruce Dayton wrote:
...just doesn't have quite the ring to it.
You mean that in addition to big, klunky cameras, secret passwords and
funny hats you will have secret rings, too? Wow.
Bob
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Bruce Dayton wrote:
Bob,
I am NOT shaving my head!
It is not necessary. Just give it time and Mother Nature will take care
of it for you.
Bob
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Mark Roberts wrote:
I never thought
about the possibility of digital imaging for x-rays. Now that is interesting.
No more pinning those broken bones, just fix 'em with Photoshop!
I suspect it is the wave of the future.
About two years ago I had a root canal and the dentist had a digital
needs, unattractive as it is.) But
I never will part with my LX.
One is a tool, the other becomes a love object once held in one's hands
and caressed. :)
Robert Harris, Economic and Public Policy Consultant
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J. Gerace wrote:
So, if you all had a choice would it be a MZ-S or an LX? Or are those
two different animals?
They are different animals, Julia. I do not have an MZ-S, but probably
will get one if I ever feel the need for a new auto-focus body. (I
already have a PZ1-p, which meets my
gfen wrote:
And I thought the Brotherhood was obsessed with their 67s...
They are, but I have never aspired to belong to a brotherhood of
weightlifters. :)
Bob
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For all you digital folk -- Adobe has released a new version of
photoshop. Review at:
http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,556039,00.html
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Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Here it is:
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/67hat.html
Not bad, but I prefer this one:
http://school.discovery.com/clipart/clip/dunce2.html
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T Rittenhouse wrote:
Hey, I am still waiting for that definition of what an amateur photographer
is.
That one is easy. Canon has already published the answer -- someone who
uses a third-party lens.
Bob
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William Robb wrote:
I rather think that over their lifetime, smokers pay all of
their health care costs in full, and probably the health care
costs of a few of the jerks that complain about smoking.
FWIW, I am a non smoker.
Well, as a non-smoker you also will live longer (on average),
Mike Ignatiev wrote:
...i got myself a rolleicord tlr for well under $200...for sheer
image quality per buck it's hard to beat. for non-professional use i find it
difficult to understand why people are paying kilo$ for high end 35mm slr
systems.
Difficulty in getting convenient processing
May issue of Shutterbug, which arrived in the mail yesterday, has a long
review of MZ-S (and 24-90mm lens). (This is a US mag -- do not know if
available elsewhere.)
I do not have an MZ-S or the lens, so cannot comment on the accuracy of
the review, but it is quite favorable and refers to
T Rittenhouse wrote:
Actually, Bill, geese are rather vicious...
They can be quite offensive even if you do not go near them. A couple of
times a year large numbers of them stop off at the island on which I
live for a while in their wandering, and they take over the parkland so
that no
tom wrote:
On 15 Mar 2002 at 20:57, T Rittenhouse wrote:
Pshaw. I wanted to hear about the Norman Yolk!
Did Norman lay an egg?
Bob
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Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Yeah this was a treat!
I think I'm just as glad I missed the porn :)
annsan
Ah, these guys must be pretty uptight. It wasn't porn, more like glamour
photography. Nice looking girl, that's all. I kind of liked it. Better
looking body than that ugly camera. :)
Bob
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... It is not only a couple of rotten apples in the barrel, they are
often worse offenders than the ones they arrest.
What sophomoric drivel -- not really worthy of a reply.
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Aaron Reynolds wrote:
Is the list in a bad mood today? First two responses to Emmanuel were
yawn and then a critique of his punctuation...
Some people need to go back to bed until they sleep their grumpies off,
I think.
And let us not be narrow and parochial. International women's day
Tim Engel wrote:
My son the architecture student enrolled in a photography class this
semester. For every assignment, his instructor's default wording seems to
be, Expose 5, 36-exposure rolls... The net effect is that he's been
going through a lot of BW film and print paper that he's
Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
... My guess is that this is an effect of
(dis)coloration over time perhaps due to sunlight.
Perhaps they sold slowly, and some of them got a layer of mold while
sitting in a warehouse. :)
Bob
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Andreas Wirtz wrote:
Unfortunately it is not gonig ahead, too...
Andreas Wirtz
Raul Lithgo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am switching to Pentax which is not going backwards.
If it is not going backwards or ahead, it must be going nowhere. Not
very confidence building. :)
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Chris Brogden wrote:
One of the best games I've ever seen! The gold has finally come home to
where it belongs... yeeha!
I suppose it is only fair for us to let it go north every 50 years or so. :)
Bob
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Lon Williamson wrote:
Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
So, if I use a consistent exposure method,
but need an incident meter to accomplish that
goal, how do I turn my 35mm camera into an
incident meter?
Or is it easier to just carry one?
In the 80's, I remember someone sold a transluscent
gfen wrote:
It doesn't have to be Pentax orientated, but is there a primer on med and
large format stuff out there? I see things tossed around constantly, like
645 and 6x7 and others, and have no idea what it is.. but am curious.
Must be a primer somewhere, but I do not know where. The
William Robb wrote:
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From: Lon Williamson
Subject: Re: 67 Brotherhood
I've been thinking about a PentaX group for folks who have
35mm cameras with a model name ending in X. KX, MX, LX.
Dues in the P_X club are a measly 200 dollars a year, mailable
to me Right
Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
Hi,
I tried out a lens I thought about buying, it's the Pentax A 28/2,
it was in very good condition. The results from the roll of 100 iso
film: AWFUL! The lens was worse than any other I have seen, almost
worse than a Tamron 28/2.5 ...
[snip]
I think
gfen wrote:
Actually, I was just offered his Speed Graphic (I'm still unsure on teh
model, it looks to be a pacemaker) with a pair of lenses (I'm also unsure
of the focal length, the one on the unit doesn't have anything printed
on it), plus a series of film sheet holders for $70.
Cotty wrote:
I'm *really* sorry for this OT post, but cat-lovers AND dog lovers should
raise a smile at this brilliant comic. Bearing in mind most PDMLers'
affliction with eBay, this should have you howling!
http://www.ucomics.com/bizarro/viewbz.cfm?uc_full_date=20020201uc_comic=bz
Bob Blakely wrote:
No one argues this is excellent advice. On the other hand, Stop into a Rave
with me for some shots from the wild side. Go a head. Bring your tripod.
You'll spend the entire night trying to figure out where to put it since
every square foot of floor space has a human foot
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
This is either ludicrous or very clever, but I'm sure you'll enjoy the
creativity and ingenuity. It's a telephoto adapter for TLR cameras.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1332921772
I particularly like this part of the description:
What this
Dan Kirsch wrote:
Last week I bought a 645NII from World Photo Sales (Brooklyn,
worldphotoonline.com). They are a Popular Photography check rated
advertiser, and also meet the requirements for the Shutterbug
advertisers. Both of those requirements include specifying if it won't
be a USA
T Rittenhouse wrote:
Can those who use an LX be little bitty brothers?
Why would an LX user want to be part of this Brotherhood of Bloat?
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a juvenile. Now if I can just convince some
young women that you are right. :)
Acceptance of your lot would be so much healthier.
I am quite healthy, thank you, having accepted my lot by choice when I
selected the LX many years ago, and I have never felt any need to downgrade.
I say that Robert
Mark Roberts wrote:
The check rated system is, IMHO, a total farce. Any advertiser who pays for
enough advertising gets rated and how they do business seems to be irrelevant.
Agree. Many sleazy operators are check-rated, making that designation
not really helpful.
BTW: I *did* exact
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Welcome to the New World.
1. Can anyone recommend any good photography/Pentax shops in the North
Saddle River area (or in Manhattan I guess, as I'll be travelling around
the city)
I patronize two places. 1) BH Photo carries just about everything at
about the
anonymity --
You are now on my shit list!
And mine!
My cat is not amused either, and says we should forget making lists.
Instead he suggests sending him the contents of litter boxes. :)
Bob
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Simon King wrote:
It's a Pimp-X!
Actually I think it's from Liberace's estate...
Liberace would never have acquired such a monstrosity. He had better
taste than that.
Bob
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Bob Blakely wrote:
What the hell is an SO?
Usually significant other -- a non-specific reference to wife,
girl/boy friend, lover, etc.
Bob
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Oliver Raymond wrote:
Hey!
My missus to be has said that after the wedding I can get the new 67
90-180 zoom lens can you say enablement?
...not so soon on the 'e' word - the darn NY wedding will cost the same
as ALL 67 glass from 400mm over - 500mm, 600mm, 1000mm Reflex, 400mm
wendy beard wrote:
I quote:
9) For categories including people or pets, a model release is required.
Where the photo taken is of a minor a parent or guardian's signature is
required. With pets, the pet's owner's signature is required. Model
release forms will be available at Turek
Mark Roberts wrote:
Anyone tried Netscape 6.2? I've downloaded it but haven't installed it. Sounds
like I should stick with 4.6, which is what I'm running now.
Works fine. 6.0 was a crappy, buggy release, as are most x.0 releases of
anything seem to be these days. NS is now up to 6.2.1 has
CBWaters wrote:
Cool!
And
RATS!
No Super Program
Of course, I'd have one by now if I'd contacted Pentax when I ordered the
camera
That seems odd. There are other omissions as well. PZ1-p is there but no
No PZ-1, although there are lots of much older models available.
Bob
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But what would someone who speaks Texas English call it?
To anyone who speaks English English--can you please enlighten me as to what
a bedsit is??
A couple of possibilities.
1) A furnished room.
2) A dump.
(Not being judgemental, just descriptive. I lived in
gfen wrote:
I'm still pretty happy with it,
at least on paper. I'll hold onto it, I figure.
If you are happy with it on paper, it can always be used as a big, ugly
paperweight. :)
Bob
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Bob Rapp wrote:
Say, have you ever had a Spotmatic? If not, you can not refer to us a
screw-heads and get away with it!!!
How about just plain screwy, then? :)
Bob
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Paul Stenquist wrote:
It is true that mainstream television doesn't cover or understand
international motorsports. Like you said, thank god for speedvision.
While it is true that mainstream TV (in the US, at least) does not cover
motorsports, I do not believe that is due to lack of
Peter Alling wrote:
Is anyone else getting double messages or is it just me.
Double? I've been getting repeats from the last few days this morning.
Bob
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Mike Johnston wrote:
A slight (pedantic?) clarification is in order, perhaps.
Or, perhaps not. Nip of Bob W.'s cooking sherry then, Bob H.? There's a good
lad.
I don't care much for sherry, except for cooking. A bit of single malt,
though, and I may shut up. :)
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Len Paris wrote:
Did you have presence of mind enough, though, to then ask one
of them to
take a picture of you behind the wheel?
I can't
remember a single time that I've ever asked a stranger to take a
picture of me using my camera.
But Shel was not dealing with strangers in this
I have a brother who is a free-lance writer. He does a regular column
for one magazine and writes articles for others as well. Mostly in
specialized, niche publications, like Poker Digest. He was doing an
article about a casino in Europe for one of them a while back and the
editor said, Be
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I suppose the test is what your brother's pix look like.
I am afraid to look at any. Suppose they are better than mine? :)
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Peter Alling wrote:
Yes he is a pro. So his equipment is pro equipment.
Hmmm. So maybe the makers of disposable cameras should start advertising
them as the latest pro devices.
Hell, maybe they'll buy some of my brothers pics for their ads. He could
use the money -- the magazines he
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I'm familiar with the trick, although I've never used it. Marbles are
still around, I'm sure, although they may now be plastic g.
They are still around. I was in FAO Schwartz (big NY toy store) the
other day and saw a large display of marbles. I did not handle them,
Bill D. Casselberry wrote:
... an integer, X, somewhere between too many and not enough
!8^D
Sorry, but there is no integer between too many (as in two martinis) and
not enough (as in three martinis) -- pointed out many years ago by James
Thurber.
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Aaron Reynolds wrote:
I have a Sekonic flashmate L-308b, a beautiful, small meter. I very
much like the size, shape and layout. It's a digital flashmeter, with
measurement in tenths of stops. Easy to use one-handed.
I have been using the Sekonic 328F for nearly 10 years. I think it is
Alan Chan wrote:
I like the L328 for its
size and easy of use. Unfortunately, it had poor built quality and messy
circuit board design. It died eventually without apparent reason and
costed a fortunate to repair, so I just dumped it.
I don't think the build quality is bad overall. It
I have been waiting for someone else to mention this and nobody has, lending credence
to my fear that I made it up in my sleep or that my memory is playing tricks on me.
(It does that more often as the years go by.)
But at the risk of making more of a fool of myself than usual, I will
toss
Mike Johnston wrote:
I find it curious that none
of the advertising from any of the main makers (Pentax, Nikon, Canon,
Minolta) ever make any claims over the precision and consistency of
their meters.
[snip]
It's because the market doesn't respond to the claims by buying one over the
Fred wrote:
So, if I use a consistent exposure method,
but need an incident meter to accomplish that
goal, how do I turn my 35mm camera into an
incident meter?
One possibility (although I have never used one, so I am not really
recommending them, just suggesting...) is the Expo/Disc -
Way off topic, but someone on the list is bound to get hit by this new
virus/worm, just starting the rounds; as usual it is spread
automatically by Outlook Express.
It is a VERY nasty one, so beware. Note that it will delete files and
reformat your C: drive for you.
This info is from Norton.
Cotty wrote:
Now I'm really confused. What has this poor departed chap got to do with
the delightful Wendy?
In 1969, when he opened the first of what became a large chain of
restaurants, he named it after his daughter -- Wendy.
Don't feel bad -- I didn't know either, and had to look up an
Always seems to be interest on the list in famous photographers using
Pentax gear. I just ran across another. The latest issue of Aperture has
an interview with William Eggleston (accompanied by a lot of his recent
photos). The interviewer asked what he used to take them and he responded:
Rob Studdert wrote:
Some pics from yesterday (Oly E-10, I'm waiting Pentax)
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Rob:
Your house looks to be ok. Is Hurstville near Sydney? Some scary pics of
the raging fires there at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_1728000/1728015.stm
wendy beard wrote:
At 16:04 26-12-2001 -0500, Tom C. wrote:
I have never, ever seen a (P)Z-1 or (P)Z1-p in the flesh and I've been
in a lot of camera shops in my time!
Lucky you, :)
Bob
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aimcompute wrote:
Oh shutup Pal,
Why should he shut up? He makes perfect sense on, this issue at least.
Not only many of us, but other camera reviewers don't agree with you.
These delusions tend to attract crowds. :)
I share Pal's views but shut up about the Z1/Z1-p a long time ago,
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Bringing you the latest news about Santa's reindeer, it was reported on
CNN this morning that Rudolph, Santa's most famous reindeer, was injured
in an accident early this morning
Gross and disgusting. Love it. Sending it to my grandchildren. Time they
learned
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