Hello, list-
Ive seen some recent discussion on the list about some of the Tokina 400mm
telephotos but have only caught a few of the messages (I usually follow the
list via the archive which only seems to archive a small percentage of the
messages for some reason), so I apologize if this
Does anyone have any leads or ideas on where to buy a new Pentax 24mm f/2
SMCP-FA AL (IF) lens? I think it was recently discontinued and Ive
probably waited just a little too long - it is not currently stocked by BH,
Adorama, 17th Street Photo, Focus Camera, or some others I often use. Some
I am one of those folks who isn't using digital and who has no plans to in
his personal photography. Happily I am a hobbyist and not a professional
photographer and so am not pressured to make decisions based upon speed or
upon return on investment. Part of the reason I've not followed the
Thanks to all who responded regarding my question about a screwmount list.
(And sorry not to have said so eariler - I've only had a chance to check the
list periodically.)
Re: Does a screw mount list exist?
Andre Langevin
Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:18:23 -0700
Hello,
Can anyone provide some kind of summary about current availability of non-DA
Pentax glass? Or is it shrouded in the usual Pentax mystery?
Perusing my favorite internet sites reveals that the selection seems to have
been cut back greatly, with some previously stocked lenses shown as
Hello, everyone-
Is there a separate Pentax screw mount list or discussion group somewhere?
Thanks,
Rob
Hello, everyone. It's been a while since I've posted to the list. I have a
quick question.
The exposure compensation and metering mode buttons on the rear door of my
PZ-1p have just failed. Does anyone know the easiest (cheapest) solution?
Wasn't there once a databack (time/date stamp
It is a tribute to the importance of digital in Pentax's future that so
little has been said on the list about the *ist (non-D, to be precise).
Here we have a radically new camera design which is trickling out to
magazines (how many read Herb Keppler's assessment?) and even into select
After exactly three years on this list, I just want to say goodbye as I will
be leaving the list for quite some time, and indeed perhaps permanently.
Finances arent the best at the moment in fact theyve taken a significant
turn for the worse. Though Im by no means destitute, I am even
I'm not trying to be a wise guy here, but aren't the tree tops moving a fair
bit even on still days? What were your shutter speeds? (And sorry if
you've already addressed this point - I'm a bit behind on reading the
digests.)
[...]
Getting sharp images with long lenses is an exacting task,
Hello-
Does anyone regularly use a Pentax LX with a non-eye-level viewfinder for
general purpose photography (and if so, what do you use - for instance,
perhaps the FF-1)? I am so enjoying shooting with my Yashicaflex TLR at
waist level that I am wondering about how something like this could
It was about 9 degrees Fahrenheit this morning and very clear out. It seems
it is usually or often clear when very cold. Dumb question but is this some
kind of rule: is it always/usually clearer when cold? And why? Is it
because of the cold, or some other related factor which may be present
Welcome back, Mike J.!!! We missed you. I'll even stop railing against
digital for a while in your honor. Seriously, though - great to have you
back!
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Mike Johnston's Sunday Morning column is on the topic of his favorite lens -
a Pentax, of course.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/11242002.html
This link is to Steve's Digicams; Mike's column usually shows up there on
Sunday mornings and on the Luminous Landscape site on Sunday nights.
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His site has a journal entry for October 15, 2002:
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto/_journal/road-8.html
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bad news is that his last post is about some very bad arthritis.
His site has a journal entry for October 15, 2002:
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I am becoming increasingly interested in architectural photography and am
again seeking recommendations for wide angle and especially tilt-shift
lenses: Pentax lenses and various branded lenses for Pentax cameras, as well
as lenses for other-branded cameras. Can anyone advise?
I don't suppose
Someone recently posted a question on bokeh that interested me but to which
I didn't have a chance to respond - nor were there many responses. Now I
cannot find the post; would that person (or someone else) care to repost?
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I'm sorry but that is an idiotic argument. eBay provides tools for the
seller to insure a minimum price is met. If the seller chooses to lay bare
his auction items to market forces with no reserve then they can't blame
anyone for it selling at a lower price than they may have foreseen.
Agreed?
photography or
processing.)
Rob
--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2 Nov 2002 at 10:08, Robert Soames Wetmore wrote:
I am becoming increasingly interested in
architectural photography and am again seeking recommendations for wide
angle and
especially tilt-shift lenses: Pentax lenses
Why is the 57mm normal a thing of the past? Does anyone know? All fast
normals now seem to be 50mm on the nose, whereas once so many were 57mm. I
rather like the 57mm focal length, and it makes a nice compliment with a
40mm (also not so popular any more). I once recall someone (maybe Mike
No problems :-) I believe that Gianfranco has one
but not in K mount, he mentioned that it is a stellar performer (which is
borne out by the manufacturers MTF diagrams).
Yes, I think it was Gianfranco that posted about it.
The big advantage of the Zork adaptors is that some
models offer
I don't believe that Mikes opinion on the issue is
that of the majority, if it did there should also have been posts
indicating
agreement. The majority agreement (for those who took the time to consider
and respond about the issue) was as was recently outlined.
Cheers,
Rob Studdert
I honestly
He could be serious, you know. Didn't he use the term Pentax F###ers to
describe what, if this were true, would be his bosses? If the suits at
Pentax were my bosses, I would call them those names!
I'd love to see this all become one of those internet rumors that everyone
believes...
Ok
When I was crossing a stream once with my dog by hopping rock to rock, he
jumped right into a stagnant area of coagulated foam, thinking it was solid
earth. He was quite surprised (and angry) to find himself underwater. Now,
THAT's stupid. (Even smart dogs like my Cardigan Welsh Corgi are
So what if the MZ-S was the developing basis for new products and now will
be the basis for the new chassis? I could imagine a new chassis line as
follows:
- a cheaper MZ-S made of polycarbonat replacing MZ-5/MZ-6
- the present MZ-S as semi-pro camera
- the previous MZ-D with minor changes and
Bruce wrote:
For low volume production items the cost is in the tooling and setting up
production, and not the materials.
Thats why the story provided by Pentax UK, all new slr's from the same
chassis, makes sense.
I'm not convinced the MZ-S as building block for the whole Pentax slr
Hi, Alan,
What people buy and why they buy it is a pretty darned complex issue.
[...]
frank theriault
And never discount stupidity. Folks are pretty dumb on average. When I was
selling cameras and audio I watched a training film which shared some market
research indicating that 75% of
Many or all of those messages never made it to the archives - or, if they
did make it, they didn't stay there. (The internet isn't exactly the
repository of the definite.)
Actually, I can't find them in the recent archives, either. Maybe I just
imagined it.
Chris Brogden
I guess I'm one of the few still thinking about the possible new film
flagship...
If the Photosharp report is accurate and the new Pentax digital SLR is based
upon the MZ-S chassis (in contrast to the Pentax UK press release's claim of
a new chassis), I wonder what that means for a new film
The pdml digest is unreliable again and messages are spotty. This seems a
regular occurrence. Digests have never been reliable. The website archive
is continually failing or out of date. Does anyone have this much trouble
on other groups? Does anyone have any suggestions for a better
That it is easier is sometimes a recommendation against it. I love how all
of a sudden in the last ten years people suddenly find it so difficult to
live without smiley faces in their writing and find all sorts of
justification for how necessary they.
easier to simply append a textual smile!
are
reading, rather than focusing on what visual cues you are missing.
--- Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Soames Wetmore wrote:
That it is easier is sometimes a recommendation
against it.
Sometiimes it is. Agreed.
We tend to gloss over meaning and nuances if we're
rapidly typing
I agree that the seminal issue is how hard it is - but what does it say
about an artist if his choice of medium is entirely contained in it being
the least difficult? The medium choice in my opinion should be best, not
easiest. But that's just me, of course. That is a belief that not all
Paal, you are now the PDML equivalent of Britney Spears
Cameron Hood
Maybe you're right - I did actually feel like having sex with Paal after his
new flagship posting.
RSW
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Even Minolta offers a few low-end
models in addition to their Maxxum 5, 7 and 9.
Chris Brogden
Yes, but Minolta has been clarifying their line lately. I think the Maxxum
9, Maxxum 7, and Maxxum 5 made a lot of sense as a trio of film cameras to
remain for a while: one super-pro spec, the
Realistically Pentax's immanent film flagship may be it's last high-end film
camera. It seems it might go more in the high-tech direction (PZ-1p, Maxxum
7) or, alternatively, in the lower tech - an LX w/ AF sort of thing. Or
could it, like the Maxxum 9 and to some extent the MZ-s, hit both
My choice:
The lens used in the most top-secret US spy satellites (and I'll take the
digital camera part too) g
[Brad Dobo]
My choice is any third party lens that will fit my recreational proctoscope.
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Why am I increasing aware that I got suckered when purchasing my MZ-S?
[Brad Dobo]
You didn't get suckered - the MZ-S is a beautiful camera. But perhaps you
are alluding to the fact that it may not be a long-term flagship but,
rather, as some of us have speculated, a kind of stop-gap camera
I was recently married and, with my wife, had to choose a wedding
photographer. Strangely, in my area, they are all divided into pretty much
PJ or traditional. Pretty silly. We went with someone who used neither
term and was somewhere in-between in a certain sense. Some of the PJ
types
Re: how many bodies do you own?
The ones I technically own right now total 8:
PZ-1p (2), ZX-50, K1000SE, Konica T3n, Konica T2, Konica FT-1 motor,
Yashicaflex TLR.
I'm rethinking it all, though - but that's another and much more tedious
thread...
RSW
I also notice its in silver cans. probably can't get the black cans in
the US. Not that it bothers me . . .
Steven Desjardins
HA! Paal knows a guy who will convert the can parts from silver to black
for $180/can. The beer tastes the same, though, so it seems kinda silly.
Who needs to
I expect [the Pentax DSLR] to be comparable to the d60/d100. But as
long as it's got specs equal to the MZ-S I'll be
happy.
Nick Wright
Wow, specs equal to the MZ-S - that includes ISO equivalency up to 6400.
That would be impressive!
Rob
Any one know if the focus mechanics on a plan jane
Y-M are fixable,at a reasonable cost.
Mine went south on the best day of the long weekend.The knob focused
fine for the first 2 pictures of the day,then all of a sudden the knob
turns freely and the lens housing does not move in/out.
Any
If Pentax goes all-digital I will very sadly abandon the brand.
RSW
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1. Lens name: FA*50mm/1.0
(below are guesses, not requirements)
Length: 3.5
Diameter: 3.8
Weight: 2.5 lbs
Filter Thread: 72mm
Other: optimized for wide open shooting, ghostless coatings, price less than
$3000
2. Lens name: FA*21mm/4 tilt-shift
(below are guesses, not requirements)
Length: 3.4
Arnold,
Next poll suggestion. Pentax lenses you whished they still manufactured.
Bob
Or the next poll could be about what you want the next poll to be...
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Deal! Of course, now you've guaranteed that I have to stick around till
then. [...]
BR
D'oh! He got us again.
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Yes, now THESE are some nice choices!!!
Lens name: A*SMC 35/1.2 ED Lens name: A*SMC Pentax 1:1.4 20mm
Lens name: A*SMC Pentax 200/2 ED
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No, no, no. Wrong. He apologized five times already. You see, he wrote
the swear, defended his statement, and then realized he wrote the swear, and
then apologized five times. But he will apologize another ten times to you
because of your post. And then he will ask me to clarify this post
Don't make him angry...you wouldn't like him when he's angry... [shirt
ripping, body becoming Hulkingly large, face taking on the supposed greenish
hue of those large white Pentax lenses]
Please don't say that, I apologized for the my choice of words. I am not
a freak.
Brad Dobo
Guess whose latest slr has a tilted top plate? Hard to keep a good idea
down, I guess.
http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/flash/rebelti_f.html
Click on the flash thingie and then on the virtual 3d thing and check its
profile.
Dan Scott
Wow, that looks truly awful and gimmicky. It should sell
Someone posted a link to a drawing of a Pentax TLR a while back but I can't
find the message - can someone repost?
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Page 15 of the new Petersen's Photographic (November, 2002) has a full page
ad for the Pentax Optio 430RS. The theme is power to spare (in terms
mainly of battery life) and shows the camera in the foreground with a wire
leading back to a marshall amp stack in the background. The lighting is
Hello-
I've noticed that many on the list decry the size and weight of the EOS-1v
and F5 type cameras and advocate that for that size it would make more sense
to have an MF camera - up to a certain telephoto length, anyway. I recall,
too, the posting of a link to some nature photog who
Hello-
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone else on this list who has absolutely
zero interest in digital cameras (except perhaps as a curiosity), has no
intention of ever converting from film, etc., etc.?
At the moment, I'm not trying to argue with those in favor of digital, I'm
just
this is not a test
--
Frits J. Wüthrich
(Sent with Kmail)
Indeed. What I read was not a test but a representation of a test.
Are you related to Magritte?
Robert Soames Wetmore
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perspicuous view
Rene Magritte was the painter of This is not a pipe:
http://www.cgecwm.org/art/this-is-not-a-pipe.jpg;
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I don't see how anyone could conclude that 35mm film is still a superior
media after seeing these pictures.
-R [Ryan K. Brooks]
Maybe because there are considerations for some of us other than absolute
image quality. Even if you don't agree, other perspectives shouldn't be
inconceivable.
An internet list such as this is a great microcosm of the world. It proves
that civility never wins out over incivility - and this is why humanity is
ultimately doomed. Calls for civility are futile as long as such obtuse and
hostile people exist, which they always will. It's the same
but matching the Limited
lens finishes (which was hinted at an an LXII, or as the camera we would
take to our graves)?
Failing the above, let's talk about religion or politics. Does anyone have
a good Pope joke?
There's more to life than digital.
Robert Soames Wetmore
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Here's one:
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/lx/questions.html;
Every 3 months or so I see mention of a page listing things to check when
buying an LX. Of course, now that I'm actively shopping for one I can't
seem to find the site. Can someone please point me in the right
Let's try that link again...it was fine when I sent it (I even checked my
sent messages - yup, looks fine) but somehow a simicolon appeared magically
and then the end quotes became part of the hyperlink. So, here's another
try at the link:
http://jbuhler.com/html/petanca.html;
What's all the excitement? What is it, another new proctoscope???
Robert Soames Wetmore
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What's all the excitement? What is it, another new proctoscope???
Robert Soames Wetmore
...and is it the long-awaited flagship proctoscope or just another amateur
model?
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with photography - but at this point
that's neither here nor there.
[Robert Soames Wetmore]
One huge weakness to this concept is that of DOF. This is a method
that is employed at the time of exposure to sometimes emphasize or
de-emphasize a particular element or subject. If you were to capture
a very
False. You can copy *any* file 100 times a second for the next 100 years,
and the last copy will be as good as the first one. [Mike]
Ridiculous.
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If you are reading this email, please write me directly to let me know. I
can't see my own postings, and it's PRETTY FRUSTRATING.
Thanks
Albano
(in digest mode)
I wouldn't get that frustrated - your postings haven't been all that
interesting lately, so you're not missing much. For instance,
Quick question - FA100-300mm
There appear to be two versions. A power zoom version (f4.5-5.6) and a
current silver version (f4.7-5.8)
The comments on Stan's site all seem to pertain to the power zoom version,
and imply that it's not worthy to carry the Pentax name.
What about the new
The reports on the Yahoogroups EPSONx7x list have all been very favorable.
Maris
There's a yahoo group for a brand of printers???
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I am not interested in constructing a building so much as in having a
perspicuous view of the foundations of possible buildings
Wittgenstein
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No, the Mexican VWs are the only cars doing as badly in reliability as
American cars. No other European cars and no Japanese cars come close. Do
you deny this, or did you misunderstand? I won't start in on Audi TT
quality control since I know you are an Audi fan.
Robert Soames Wetmore
allows many choices. And I'll be the first to
admit the manual is scary - really poorly written, and wrong in several
places.
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I am not interested in constructing a building so much as in having a
perspicuous view of the foundations of possible
? I'm just wondering how small the MZ-S could
still have been if it had had, say, 1/8000 max. shutter, 4 FPS motordrive,
and used maybe 2 CR123s or a 2CR5 or whatever.
Thanks-
Robert Soames Wetmore
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I am not interested in constructing a building so much as in having
my
nose a little to see it gone in the MZ-S (which, as I said before, may be
just as good or better).
Robert Soames Wetmore
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I am not interested in constructing a building so much as in having a
perspicuous view of the foundations of possible buildings
Wittgenstein
about value or about something being
overpriced in terms other than whether it happens to have sold in some
particular and in many ways artificial context.
Robert Soames Wetmore
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I am not interested in constructing a building so much as in having a
perspicuous view
on anyones experience in using them
for architectural photography, particularly in terms of rectilinear
distortion or orthogonal accuracy.
Thanks,
RSW
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Bob Walkden wrote:
Authenticity does not depend on the medium but on the source of the
information, and the extent to which we trust the source. If the National
Enquirer printed a photograph and claimed it was a Yeti, I'd be inclined
to doubt it. However, if Nature printed the same photograph
Hello, Ed -
The 28-105 FA Powerzoom is indeed an excellent zoom. And this is coming
from someone who isn't a fan of zooms. It's my main general purpose zoom on
my PZ-1p and I've grown to really like it.
Optically, I find it to be excellent: very sharp and possessing above
average color
Dave wrote:
I would prefer not to have to bend over, assume the position, and get
sodomized by both UPS (brokerage fees) and the Canadian
Government :)
Gee wiz, where's the listmarm when you need her?
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Bruce, Joe-
This argument goes back and forth from time to time - it's kind of a
maximax/maximin type of thing. Being a conservative guy, I go for the
maximin approach, or at times, more precisely, the minimin approach. I
figure the optimal performance of the lens is only very slightly
Sorry - you were talking about the cap, not the hood. I'll shut up now. I
knew it was a mistake to go back to contributing to the list.
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It has a flower-shaped hood specifically for attaching and removing filters.
In here:
http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/wide-angle/FA31f1.8.html;
You will in fact find the quote:
It even comes equipped with an exclusively designed flower-shaped lens
hood, which not only cuts down
The March issue (on sale Feb. 12) of Petersen's PHOTOgraphic is to have a
lead feature on the 'Unveiling of the 645NII'.
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The one that grinds my teeth is that the word architect is mis-applied to
computer programmers at all. We real architects make buildings. (Granted,
this is not so much a grammatical error as a conceptual error. Or a
cultural error: current society doesn't value its civic artists any more -
There's also an article by Bob Shell on the Nikon FM3A SLR for those of
you who have been feeling traitorous lately!
Why would you say that?
I know that.
You think I don't know that?
Why would you think I don't know that?
I know that. I don't know why you'd say that, you see, if you thought I
Hello all,
Not sure whether this has been mentioned as I'm about ten digest behind, but
the latest issue of Shutterbug (February, 2002) features a sizable article
reviewing the Pentax 31 F/1.8 limited and the FA 24-90 F/3.5-4.5 AL[IF]
Zoom. I've just picked it up and not had time to more
Marc,
On the surface, this isn't a bad way to go. There are a few things I'd be
careful of, though. One trick I've seen is that there is a substantial
extra charge for something that is already included with the camera: You
want the eyepiece? That's $xx more. Another trick is of course
In the last year, I've most frequently used a PZ-1p and ZX-50 and can second
this. Assuming the MZ-6 motor is similar to the two generations earlier
ZX-50, you may still have the same problem. The PZ-1p motor is quite a bit
stronger.
Incidentally - and not to rekindle the for/against PZ-1p
Bruce wrote:
In all this discussion of aperture control, I forgot one very lame
behavior on the PZ-1p. It is somewhat of an oxymoron. It provides
this capability to change aperture by spinning a dial rather than
using the aperture ring, but the DOF preview button is mechanical and
requires you
The following was posted to the list, excerpted from some Olympus digital
camera literature:
{...] as well as 15 fps in the burst mode (JPEG only), thus greatly
enhancing your chances of getting the shot you wanted at the precise
moment it happens.
...also known as the brute force method
On the Minolta list you get one warning and then you get
permanently kicked off. [Kent Gittings]
Sounds like a friendly place! Is that the same list that doesn't let you
view the archives unless you're a member, or another one?
RSW
Some speculation enabling for you all...
Does anyone have any Pentax New Year's Predictions? Folks with insider info
such as Paal are encouraged to weigh in! Of course, I also solicit wild
speculation.
My predictions are:
No new limiteds in 2002. Some kind of medium-to-big glass will come
Lately, PHOTOgraphic has been giving some belated credit to the PZ-1p. They
even listed it in the last issue as one of their five favorite cameras under
$500, which I found surprising.
I personally love the PZ-1p and can't really imagine a better all-around
camera. The ergonomics, as has
I'm not sure of the exact date when production ceased. Paal Jensen
mentioned it a while back. It's hard to find this sort of thing out
officially - Pentax USA recently told me it is still a current model. They
may still have back-stock at Pentax. The PZ-1p is certainly still available
new
Since Mike's been driven away for a while and can't do so, I'll supply an
interesting related link:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/noctilux.htm;
-RSW
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 05:06:30 -0800
From: Steven Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 50mm/f1.2
Has there ever been anything faster?
Is it just me or is the FA 35/2.0 bokeh pretty awful? The author
acknowleges the double-imaging of the bokeh wide open (which is bad enough)
but then claims it gets good at 2.8 and very good at 4 and beyond, whereas
it seems from his images to be really ugly and harsh to me at 2.8, and still
Hello, all. An acquaintance of mine has listed a pristine PZ-1p on ebay -
please check out the link if you are interested:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1310332048;
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