Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread John
On 1/7/2021 13:22:36, Bob Pdml wrote: On 7 Jan 2021, at 18:15, John wrote: It only requires a simple majority in the House to impeach. The Senate has to have a two-thirds majority TO CONVICT & REMOVE. BOTH Houses must agree by a two-thirds majority to remove the President under Section 4

Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread John
been incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious. bill Technically no. The Constitution defines treason very narrowly and this doesn't fit within that definition. OTOH, it's not too late to impeach him

Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 7 Jan 2021, at 18:15, John wrote: > > It only requires a simple majority in the House to impeach. > > The Senate has to have a two-thirds majority TO CONVICT & REMOVE. > > BOTH Houses must agree by a two-thirds majority to remove the President under > Section 4 of the 25th Amendment. >

Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread John
, John wrote: On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote: Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious. bill Technically no. The Constitu

Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread John
21 20:20:21, Paul Stenquist wrote: A 2/3 majority opting for impeachment is possible after today. But it would require all of the time remaining in Trump’s tenure to achieve. Not worth it. He will be ruined and quite possibly go to jail. Paul On Jan 6, 2021, at 6:45 PM, John Francis wrote:

Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread mike wilson
hn Francis wrote: > >>> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 06:17:56PM -0500, John wrote: > >>>> On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote: > >>>>> Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has > >> been > >>>>> incite

Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
-0500, John wrote: >>>> On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote: >>>>> Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has >> been >>>>> incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? >>>>> >>>>> Note, let's

Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread Bob Pdml
ance. > > bill > > >> On Thu., Jan. 7, 2021, 1:44 a.m. John, wrote: >> >>> On 1/6/2021 18:44:28, John Francis wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 06:17:56PM -0500, John wrote: >>>> On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote: >>>>> Given the br

Re: #45

2021-01-07 Thread Bill
ote: > > On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 06:17:56PM -0500, John wrote: > >> On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote: > >>> Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has > been > >>> incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? > >>> &g

Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread John
On 1/6/2021 18:44:28, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 06:17:56PM -0500, John wrote: On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote: Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? Note, let's not get ourselves

Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
A 2/3 majority opting for impeachment is possible after today. But it would require all of the time remaining in Trump’s tenure to achieve. Not worth it. He will be ruined and quite possibly go to jail. Paul > On Jan 6, 2021, at 6:45 PM, John Francis wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 06, 2021

Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 06:17:56PM -0500, John wrote: > On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote: > > Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been > > incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? > > > > Note, let's not get ourselves

Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread John
On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote: Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious. bill Technically no. The Constitution defines

Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread lrc
I read an argument that it would be sedition not treason based on the definitions. On January 6, 2021 2:08:28 PM PST, Bill wrote: >Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has >been >incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? > >Note

#45

2021-01-06 Thread Bill
Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason? Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Boris PESO #45 - Hanging by a thread

2016-11-19 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 19.11.16 um 16:07 schrieb Boris Liberman: Had a very quiet walk this morning in Jerusalem Botanical Gardens... Very nicely seen. Thanks for sharing. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :

Re: Boris PESO #45 - Hanging by a thread

2016-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Interesting, Boris! J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:07 AM, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Literally: > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-45-hanging-by-thread.html > > Had a very quiet walk this morning in Jerusalem Botan

RE: Boris PESO #45 - Hanging by a thread

2016-11-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
Boris Liberman wrote: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-45-hanging-by-thread.html +++ Well observed and captured Boris. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML

Re: Boris PESO #45 - Hanging by a thread

2016-11-19 Thread Alan C
Interesting. Power of the web? Alan C -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Boris PESO #45 - Hanging by a thread Literally: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-45-hanging-by-thread.html Had

Boris PESO #45 - Hanging by a thread

2016-11-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Literally: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-45-hanging-by-thread.html Had a very quiet walk this morning in Jerusalem Botanical Gardens... Thanks for looking. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Took apart a 16-45

2016-01-22 Thread David Parsons
A couple years ago, my first 16-45 took a tumble off a low table onto a carpeted floor. Something broke inside and the zoom and focus were jammed and wouldn't turn all the way. I bought another one second-hand to replace it and stuck it on a shelf to collect dust. I took it off the shelf

Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-23 Thread Darren Addy
That's rather deceptive. I thought it was the official Pentax made model, from the description. On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, Bipin. I’ll check it out. I got the hood I ordered from NewEgg. Not happy with it. It screws on instead of slipping on

Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-23 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: That's rather deceptive. I thought it was the official Pentax made model, from the description. So did I. Though disappointed, I appreciate your calling it to my attention in the first place.

Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-23 Thread Eric Weir
Yeah, shoulda read more carefully. I might still have hoped that it functioned the way the Pentax hood functions, though. On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: This bit of the item name ...Pro Digital Lens Hood (Flower Design) (67mm)... made me

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-23 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 23, 2015, at 7:46 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: $22.95 shipping included. Make that $26.90. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “...we are a form of invitation to

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-23 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:20 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: too late for Erik, but the 17-70 hood apparently works well on the 16-45 and is $23 at BH; one can imagine a perfect 17mm hood would cause slight vignetting wide open at 16mm, but i'd be surprised if the hood is perfect

Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-23 Thread steve harley
On 2015-07-23 15:36 , steve harley wrote: i would send it back and get the one for the 17-70; you'll save money even with return shipping i should say, i haven't tried the 17-70 hood, but i found a discussion or review that said it would work just like the regular hood (e.g. reversible); i

Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-23 Thread Eric Featherstone
This bit of the item name ...Pro Digital Lens Hood (Flower Design) (67mm)... made me think it wasn't the genuine hood. On 23 July 2015 at 22:31, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: That's rather deceptive. I thought it was the official Pentax made model, from the description. On Thu, Jul

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-23 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:20 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: too late for Erik, but the 17-70 hood apparently works well on the 16-45 and is $23 at BH; one can imagine a perfect 17mm hood would cause slight vignetting wide open at 16mm, but i'd be surprised if the hood is perfect

Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-23 Thread steve harley
On 2015-07-23 15:28 , Eric Weir wrote: Thanks, Bipin. I’ll check it out. I got the hood I ordered from NewEgg. Not happy with it. It screws on instead of slipping on the way the original Pentax hood does, which means it can’t be mounted on the lens backward, which was very convenient when the

Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-23 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, Bipin. I’ll check it out. I got the hood I ordered from NewEgg. Not happy with it. It screws on instead of slipping on the way the original Pentax hood does, which means it can’t be mounted on the lens backward, which was very convenient when the lens is not in use. I may get a chance

Re: Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-22 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:06 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Eric Sir, here is a printable lens hood for the 16-45. You can cut one out on a black thin plasticised foam. You can even fold it to stow away in your camera bag. I don't see the need to spend $$ on a lens hood. http

Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-22 Thread Bipin Gupta
Hello Eric, I have seen this rubberised foam sheets - about 1 to 2 mm thick and as light as a feather - at Michaels, Wall Mart and other craft stores. Paid 89 cents for a sheet. Here in India it is dirt cheap. Comes in one side black and the other side white, full black or full white. Kids use

Lens Hood for 16-45 / 4 Zoom

2015-07-21 Thread Bipin Gupta
Dear Eric Sir, here is a printable lens hood for the 16-45. You can cut one out on a black thin plasticised foam. You can even fold it to stow away in your camera bag. I don't see the need to spend $$ on a lens hood. http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/hoods/Pentax-SMC-16-45mm-f-4-DA-ED-AL.php Regards

Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Eric Weir
Driving along the Little Tennessee River, returning home from a paddling trip to Western North Carolina, I lost the Pentax tulip flower hood that came with my 16-45/5. I won’t go into the details. Too involved and too ridiculous. Scouring the web when I got home it appears it will not be easy

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Darren Addy
lost the Pentax tulip flower hood that came with my 16-45/5. I won’t go into the details. Too involved and too ridiculous. Scouring the web when I got home it appears it will not be easy to replace the hood. Any suggestions about how/where I might be able to obtain a Pentax hood for the 16-45/4

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Darren Addy
As you probably know, the real deal is available from a couple of eBay sellers, but is $59-60. Ouch. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:45 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Hell, I'm still trying to find a suitable replacement for the FA 20-35mm hood. -- Life is too short to put up

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread P.J. Alling
Hell, I'm still trying to find a suitable replacement for the FA 20-35mm hood. On 7/20/2015 8:40 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Driving along the Little Tennessee River, returning home from a paddling trip to Western North Carolina, I lost the Pentax tulip flower hood that came with my 16-45/5. I

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 20, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: NewEgg has it for about $32 shipped. http://goo.gl/VoSsgz That's the best price I could find. Thanks, Darren. -- Eric Weir Decatur,

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Eric Weir
, but from my first outing with the 16-45/4 I can tell it’s going to be on my camera a lot. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Our world is a human world. - Hilary Putnam -- PDML

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 20, 2015, at 9:45 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Hell, I'm still trying to find a suitable replacement for the FA 20-35mm hood. Maybe Newegg has it? Or perhaps I was just fortunate that Newegg had one for the 16-45/4—and that Darren found that it did and informed

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 20 Jul 2015, at 13:40, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Driving along the Little Tennessee River, returning home from a paddling trip to Western North Carolina, I lost the Pentax tulip flower hood that came with my 16-45/5. I won’t go into the details. Too involved and too

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread steve harley
oops Eric (i try to be careful about names) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:45 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Hell, I'm still trying to find a suitable replacement for the FA 20-35mm I'm still trying to find my hat hood. On 7/20/2015 8:40 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Driving along the Little Tennessee River, returning home

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread P.J. Alling
probably know, the real deal is available from a couple of eBay sellers, but is $59-60. Ouch. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:45 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Hell, I'm still trying to find a suitable replacement for the FA 20-35mm hood. -- I don't want to achieve immortality

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread steve harley
On 2015-07-20 7:18 , Darren Addy wrote: NewEgg has it for about $32 shipped. http://goo.gl/VoSsgz That's the best price I could find. Hope that helps. too late for Erik, but the 17-70 hood apparently works well on the 16-45 and is $23 at BH; one can imagine a perfect 17mm hood would cause

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Rick Womer
The 24-90 hood works too, and is what is now on my 16-45. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:00 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:45 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Hell, I'm still trying to find a suitable

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread John
BH has it for $60. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/618598-REG/Pentax_34779_PH_RBA58_Lens_Hood_for.html On 7/20/2015 9:45 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: Hell, I'm still trying to find a suitable replacement for the FA 20-35mm hood. On 7/20/2015 8:40 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Driving along the Little

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread P.J. Alling
wrote: On 20 Jul 2015, at 13:40, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Driving along the Little Tennessee River, returning home from a paddling trip to Western North Carolina, I lost the Pentax tulip flower hood that came with my 16-45/5. I won’t go into the details. Too involved and too ridiculous

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 20, 2015, at 12:21 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: oops Eric (i try to be careful about names) I’ve committed worse errors than that here. No problema. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Eric Weir
with my 16-45/5. I won’t go into the details. Too involved and too ridiculous. Nothing is too ridiculous for the PDML. I put it on the hood of my car while I cleaned the filter and lens. Then drove away with it still on the hood. When I realized it was missing back to the site. Checked

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 20, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: Some of us have done that with lenses... I almost did it with a camera and lens once. Fortunately one of the hike leaders noticed it and alerted me before I'd gone very far. Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Bob W-PDML
North Carolina, I lost the Pentax tulip flower hood that came with my 16-45/5. I won’t go into the details. Too involved and too ridiculous. Nothing is too ridiculous for the PDML. I put it on the hood of my car while I cleaned the filter and lens. Then drove away with it still

Re: Hood for 16-45/4

2015-07-20 Thread Eric Weir
On Jul 20, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: The 24-90 hood works too, and is what is now on my 16-45. Is that because the filter diameter is the same? (On the 16-45 its 67 mm

Update on KEH (16-45/4 saga)

2015-06-20 Thread Eric Weir
You may remember the EX-rated 16-45/4 I bought from KEH on which the aperture didn’t open when the lens was put on the camera. I called them, explained that problem seemed to be that the little lever that opens the aperture when the lens is mounted seemed to be bent and arranged to take

Re: Update on KEH (16-45/4 saga)

2015-06-20 Thread Jack Davis
Anxious to learn your opinion, Eric. J - Original Message - From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 2:12:05 PM Subject: Update on KEH (16-45/4 saga) You may remember the EX-rated 16-45/4 I bought from KEH on which

Re: Update on KEH (16-45/4 saga)

2015-06-20 Thread Ken Waller
Glad to hear! They uphold their reputation, at least in my mind. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Subject: Update on KEH (16-45/4 saga) You may remember the EX-rated 16-45/4 I bought from KEH

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
My understanding is that Keh has a good service record. Hope you find it true, Eric. J Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2015, at 3:35 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Yes - it's disappointing when something

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Eric Weir
On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Yes - it's disappointing when something like this happens and, if the lens were mine, I'd just bend the pin back. However, mine's an older lens not under warranty. In your case I'd probably let KEH deal with it

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Eric Weir
On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: My understanding is that Keh has a good service record. Hope you find it true, Eric. I think I will, Jack. The only problem is it’ll take more time that I’d like. I’d really like to splurge on a 20-40/2.8 limited. So much

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Stan Halpin
at no additional cost to me. ... Igor Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I.m totally baffled. ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
7:26:31 AM Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4 Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed, nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did not put on a body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag and so the body was quite well filled

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread John
@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 7:26:31 AM Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4 Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed, nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did not put on a body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag and so the body

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread John
On 6/4/2015 7:34 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I double checked mounting. Still have the problem. With the lens off the camera, pushing the lever the aperture opens and closes smoothly. When I compare the levers on the 16-45/4 and the 35/2.4 the one on the 16-45/4 is ben in towards the center

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
Your experience is good news. Especially if recent. J - Original Message - From: John sesso...@earthlink.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 10:03:30 AM Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4 They're human and make mistakes like everyone else. The key

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
believe they'll make good for any mistake on their part. Wouldn't think twice about buying another item from them. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Ken Waller
/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Subject: Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4 Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed, nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did not put on a body cap nor put

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-05 Thread Jack Davis
: Baffled by my 16-45/4 Long ago I bought an LX from KEH. It came all nicely securely packed, nestled in a bunch of those plastic foam “peanuts.” Unfortunately they did not put on a body cap nor put the camera in a plastic bag and so the body was quite well filled with the foam peanuts. I sent

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Eric Weir
On Jun 4, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I would try gently bending it back to position and save the time and money of shipping it back. You could also call and ask. There is a small, but non-zero chance that bending it back could break off the lever. It would

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Eric Weir
On Jun 4, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Mount it on the camera and look through the front of the lens to see if the aperture is open. Given that it is used, you just bought it, and it is malfunctioning in a manner that could not be caused by user error - that's a

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Larry Colen
Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 4, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Brian Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Eric Weireew...@bellsouth.net: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I’m totally baffled. When I look through the viewfinder it’s very dark, almost black

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I’m totally baffled. When I look through the viewfinder it’s very dark, almost black. With the lens wide open I can barely make out objects in the field of view only when pointed directly

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Zos Xavius
seems fine then its possible you might not be turning it enough, but I'm kind of assuming you have mounted it correctly. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 23:35, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Eric Weir
On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working AF). KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it back to me at no additional cost to me. I would not waste much of time trying to figure

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net: On Jun 4, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I've had one lens that came with a deffect from KEH (not working AF). KEH paid for the shipping to them, repaired it and sent it back to me at no additional cost to me. I would not

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Eric Weir
On Jun 4, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I’m totally baffled. When I look through the viewfinder it’s very dark, almost black. With the lens wide open

Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR
would not waste much of time trying to figure out what the problem is. The lens doesn't work properly. As somebody already mentioned, in your case they might just send a replacement. Good luck, Eric! Igor Eric Weir Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:35:31 -0700 wrote: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Mark C
/2015 6:35 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I’m totally baffled. When I look through the viewfinder it’s very dark, almost black. With the lens wide open I can barely make out objects in the field of view only when pointed directly at a strong

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I’m totally baffled. When I look through the viewfinder it’s very dark, almost black. With the lens wide open I can barely make out objects in the field

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 4 June 2015 at 23:35, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I’m totally baffled. When I look through the viewfinder it’s very dark, almost black. With the lens wide open I can barely make out objects in the field of view only

Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Eric Weir
Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I’m totally baffled. When I look through the viewfinder it’s very dark, almost black. With the lens wide open I can barely make out objects in the field of view only when pointed directly at a strong light source. And I can’t

Re: Baffled by my 16-45/4

2015-06-04 Thread Zos Xavius
, but I'm kind of assuming you have mounted it correctly. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 23:35, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Picked up my 16-45/4 from KEH today, put it on the camera, and I’m totally baffled. When I

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-26 Thread Zos Xavius
So sorta I fixed my 16-45. I will send my worst copy off to CRIS and have them tighten and align it since I think it has problems beyond just a wobbly barrel and looks sort of decentered. My fix was simple. Realizing that when the barrel was aligned and not drooping I was getting fairly sharp

16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Zos Xavius
tighter. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:39 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Zos, you must have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used it extensively on a number of overseas

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Bruce Walker
standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used it extensively on a number of overseas trips, and most of the images I got from it were sharp corner to corner: those that were not are probably due to being taken

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Zos Xavius
. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:39 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Zos, you must have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used it extensively on a number

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Zos Xavius
and right. vertically it feels tighter. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:39 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Zos, you must have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Aahz Maruch
have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used it extensively on a number of overseas trips, and most of the images I got from it were sharp corner to corner: those

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Bruce Walker
. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:39 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Zos, you must have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used it extensively on a number

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Aahz Maruch
: Zos, you must have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used it extensively on a number of overseas trips, and most of the images I got from it were sharp

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: Given the state of lens-correction data these days (eg ACR, Lightroom) that small amount of vignetting (couple of tenths of a stop?) is a complete non-issue. Even minor barrel distortion isn't worth worrying about, but especially vignetting. Unless you just want something to

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Philip Northeast
must have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used it extensively on a number of overseas trips, and most of the images I got from it were sharp corner to corner: those that were

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
to the left and right. vertically it feels tighter. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:39 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Zos, you must have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Aahz Maruch
, 2013 at 3:39 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Zos, you must have either two bad samples or very high standards! The 16-45 I got from another PDML-er (in, I think, 2007) was well used but still gives great images. I used it extensively on a number of overseas trips, and most

RE: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread John Coyle
said, and I don't exactly baby my equipment. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Zos Xavius Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013 10:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8

Re: 16-45 corner softness...(was re: 16-50 f2.8)

2013-07-25 Thread Mark C
On 7/25/2013 7:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: More to the point, light fall-off in the corners (not vignetting, which is darkening caused by an obstruction) is rarely a problem. In Lightroom I *add* this effect frequently and only *very* rarely feel the need to correct for it. I once read

Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range

2013-07-24 Thread Boris Liberman
expensive. Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original - De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: Martes 23 de julio de 2013 13:47 Asunto: Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range Dave, I've (the oldest version of) Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5. Such lenses

Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range

2013-07-24 Thread David J Brooks
one but its reputation is worst than the 17-70s and the Pentax one seems a bit expensive. Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original - De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: Martes 23 de julio de 2013 13:47 Asunto: Re: the 16-45

Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range

2013-07-24 Thread Boris Liberman
:47 Asunto: Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range Dave, I've (the oldest version of) Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5. Such lenses can be had for order of USD 250-300. I cannot praise mine enough. It successfully replaced DA* 16-50/2.8. Later versions are 17-70/2.8-4.0 (notice faster long end of the zoom range

Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range

2013-07-24 Thread David Parsons
-70s and the Pentax one seems a bit expensive. Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original - De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net CC: Enviado: Martes 23 de julio de 2013 13:47 Asunto: Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range Dave, I've (the oldest

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