Re: wife's *ist Ds

2008-05-10 Thread David J Brooks
Yes, check the batteries. Mine still acts funny even with fresh Liths. Speaking of istD, its just about time for my yearly IR shots.:-) Dave On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:23 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Steve Larson Subject: Re: wife's *ist Ds

Re: wife's *ist Ds

2008-05-10 Thread Steve Larson
Hi Dave, thanks! Looking forward to the IR shots :) Steve - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 5:27 AM Subject: Re: wife's *ist Ds Yes, check the batteries. Mine still acts funny even

wife's *ist Ds

2008-05-09 Thread Steve Larson
Hi folks, Well the wife used her new ist today, and about 2% turned out dark for no apparent reason. The rest of the pictures turned out beautiful. Any ideas why a few turned out dark? The metering seemed exactly the same in the same scenes. She was using a SMCA 50 1.4 on automatic and the

Re: wife's *ist Ds

2008-05-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Steve Larson Subject: wife's *ist Ds Hi folks, Well the wife used her new ist today, and about 2% turned out dark for no apparent reason. The rest of the pictures turned out beautiful. Any ideas why a few turned out dark? The metering seemed exactly

Re: wife's *ist Ds

2008-05-09 Thread Steve Larson
Hi Bill, Thanks! Will do. I like easy, lol Steve - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: Re: wife's *ist Ds - Original Message - From: Steve Larson Subject: wife's

Re: wife's *ist Ds

2008-05-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Steve Larson Subject: Re: wife's *ist Ds Hi Bill, Thanks! Will do. I like easy, lol I've heard that about you. It may not help, but it's the first thing to try when exposure go occassionaly wonky. The istD also does all sorts of weird

Re: wife's *ist Ds

2008-05-09 Thread Steve Larson
lol, I am going to change out the batteries too, I don't know how old they are. Thanks again Sir Bill !! Steve - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: Re: wife's *ist Ds

Re: File (directory) numbering bug in *ist DS ?

2007-11-29 Thread David J Brooks
with the *ist DS up to the last firmware. Best solution is to not rely upon the in-camera numbering to always produce unique file names. It's easy for the camera to get thrown off by what's on the card. I download files into folders organized by MMDD-event names to prevent name

Re: File (directory) numbering bug in *ist DS ?

2007-11-29 Thread P. J. Alling
the D1 and D1H do not offet tyhis, as well as the Pentax ones. Dave Igor Wed Nov 28 18:21:49 EST 2007 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Far as I'm aware, nothing changed in this regard with the *ist DS up to the last firmware. Best solution is to not rely upon the in-camera numbering

File (directory) numbering bug in *ist DS ?

2007-11-28 Thread Igor Roshchin
Hello everyone, I believe I've seen somebody mentioning on this list this problem, but I couldn't find the thread, so I apologize for bringing up this question again. I've been using serial number option in my *ist DS to number the files. After it created the file IMGP.PEF located in DCIM

Re: File (directory) numbering bug in *ist DS ?

2007-11-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Far as I'm aware, nothing changed in this regard with the *ist DS up to the last firmware. Best solution is to not rely upon the in-camera numbering to always produce unique file names. It's easy for the camera to get thrown off by what's on the card. I download files into folders organized

Re: File (directory) numbering bug in *ist DS ?

2007-11-28 Thread Igor Roshchin
as I'm aware, nothing changed in this regard with the *ist DS up to the last firmware. Best solution is to not rely upon the in-camera numbering to always produce unique file names. It's easy for the camera to get thrown off by what's on the card. I download files into folders organized

Re: File (directory) numbering bug in *ist DS ?

2007-11-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 28, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I also copy files into the directories named as MMDD-event. The problem here is that it all occured more or less within the same event. Not much you can do when that happens other than rename the files themselves as needed. I don't

SV: Pentax *ist DS body, F35-70/3.5-4.5 lens

2007-09-23 Thread Paulus Eriksson
Godfrey, If the ist-DS is still available I'm very interested. How much would it be for insured shipping to Sweden and payment with paypal. Best regards Paul -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Godfrey DiGiorgi Skickat: den 23 september 2007

SV: Pentax *ist DS body, F35-70/3.5-4.5 lens

2007-09-23 Thread Paulus Eriksson
Oops, that went to the list by mistake. :) -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Paulus Eriksson Skickat: den 23 september 2007 17:22 Till: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Ämne: SV: Pentax *ist DS body, F35-70/3.5-4.5 lens Godfrey, If the ist-DS

FS: Pentax *ist DS body, F35-70/3.5-4.5 lens

2007-09-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I realized I've not used the DS or the 35-70 lens in a very long time so it's time to move them along. Both are in excellent condition, available separately or together ... - The *ist DS body comes with box, papers, all accessories just like I got it, although it's upgraded to firmware v2.02

Re: Broken door on my ist-DS - resolved

2007-08-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:23, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jul 30, 2007, at 11:45, P. J. Alling wrote: It's unlikely that the spring has broken. More likely the spring itself rests on a couple of plastic lips, and has slipped off, either because one of the lips was originally malformed, or

re: Broken door on my ist-DS

2007-07-31 Thread John Sessoms
From: Charles Robinson I posted this on DPReview, but I'm throwing out as broad a net as I can looking for ideas: The door on the side of my DS no longer springs open when I flip the latch - I have to get a fingernail under there and pull it open. How far apart do I need to disassemble

Broken door on my ist-DS

2007-07-30 Thread Charles Robinson
I posted this on DPReview, but I'm throwing out as broad a net as I can looking for ideas: The door on the side of my DS no longer springs open when I flip the latch - I have to get a fingernail under there and pull it open. How far apart do I need to disassemble the camera to get that hinge

Re: Broken door on my ist-DS

2007-07-30 Thread P. J. Alling
It's unlikely that the spring has broken. More likely the spring itself rests on a couple of plastic lips, and has slipped off, either because one of the lips was originally malformed, or has worn to the point where it is now. As to how far you have to go disassembling the camera, that's not

Re: Broken door on my ist-DS

2007-07-30 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 30, 2007, at 11:45, P. J. Alling wrote: It's unlikely that the spring has broken. More likely the spring itself rests on a couple of plastic lips, and has slipped off, either because one of the lips was originally malformed, or has worn to the point where it is now. As to how

Re: My *ist DS was stolen - need new gear

2007-07-18 Thread David J Brooks
Agreed, K10D. Solid, great finder, layout is good, and submenus are not as buried as my Nikons, which have many,many trees. Dave On 7/14/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No brainer. K10D. Paul On Jul 14, 2007, at 8:38 PM, Glen Berry wrote: I recently had my Pentax *ist DS

Re: My *ist DS was stolen - need new gear

2007-07-15 Thread Peter Lacus
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The K10D is another matter entirely. A short list of improvements: - far faster writing to storage, even with the same speed card - far more accurate metering calibration I'd like just add: - the same quality viewfinder as on istDS and unlike on istDS the eyepiece

Re: My *ist DS was stolen - need new gear

2007-07-15 Thread Thibouille
I should add too that the K10D is quite a bit heavier and bigger than K100D/DS etc. It's worth mentioning I thought. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: My *ist DS was stolen - need new gear

2007-07-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
viewfinder has too much magnification and too little eye relief. It is nice and bright. ;-) The K10D viewfinder is about a half stop brighter than the *ist DS and the screen has a slightly nicer focusing texture. That said, I'm probably a little less sensitive to these things than to the overall

My *ist DS was stolen - need new gear

2007-07-14 Thread Glen Berry
I recently had my Pentax *ist DS stolen, along with my Pentax F 50/2.8 Macro lens, and a 2 Gig SD card. Insurance will cover part of the cost of replacing the gear. For now, I just need to figure out which camera body to replace the DS with. BH Photo only lists the K10D and K100D models

Re: My *ist DS was stolen - need new gear

2007-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
No brainer. K10D. Paul On Jul 14, 2007, at 8:38 PM, Glen Berry wrote: I recently had my Pentax *ist DS stolen, along with my Pentax F 50/2.8 Macro lens, and a 2 Gig SD card. Insurance will cover part of the cost of replacing the gear. For now, I just need to figure out which camera body

Re: My *ist DS was stolen - need new gear

2007-07-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 14, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Glen Berry wrote: BH Photo only lists the K10D and K100D models. The Pentax web site for the USA lists 4 models. K10D, K100D, K100D Super, and K110. I think I can live without the K110D option, but what about the K100D Super? What does it offer above the

Re: *ist DS AF speed

2007-05-15 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
I think you'll find that if you continue to use your MZ-5 with NiMH batteries, the AF motor will self destruct pretty quickly. It wasn't designed to use batteries with that much current. I bet it runs really fast, but not for long. William Robb Hi William, What to you mean with,

Re: *ist DS AF speed

2007-05-15 Thread Thibouille
Patrice, you may want to use CRV3 or Lithium AA in your *istD(S/L etc). You will get a difference in AF speed. Maybe not 2 times, but the difference is real. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: *ist DS AF speed

2007-05-15 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote: I think you'll find that if you continue to use your MZ-5 with NiMH batteries, the AF motor will self destruct pretty quickly. It wasn't designed to use batteries with that much current. I bet it runs really fast, but not for long.

Re: *ist DS AF speed

2007-05-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: Re: *ist DS AF speed WR had a poor choice of words. It comes from not being an engineer. Thanks for clarifying that. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

*ist DS AF speed

2007-05-14 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
Hi dear PDMLers, My apologies in advance if this topic has been discussed at length already, however I couldn't find it in my PDML archives. Like many people around, I've always found that the *ist DS focuses quite slowly in poor lighting conditions. But last week-end, I took my MZ-5n out

Re: *ist DS AF speed

2007-05-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes, the *ist DS and DL bodies focus somewhat slowly in poor light. The K10D is much faster and more positive in low light. It never bothered me but the improvement is welcome. G On May 14, 2007, at 5:23 PM, Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote: ...Like many people around, I've always found

Re: *ist DS AF speed

2007-05-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) Subject: *ist DS AF speed I used NiMH AA cells on both the MZ and the *ist DS. I assumed maybe the *ist DS draws more power for electronics, so I tried lithium batteries: it's a bit faster, but still not on par with the MZ still

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
Subject: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) Yeah, I know this too, Tim. But that reddish cast was not exactly what I meant. The problem you discibe is porbably caused by bad WB tuning. This was corrected: http://flickr.com/photos/bladt/25108348/ This was not: http

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-20 Thread Tim Øsleby
Subject: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) Yeah, I know this too, Tim. But that reddish cast was not exactly what I meant. The problem you discibe is porbably caused by bad WB tuning. This was corrected: http://flickr.com/photos/bladt/25108348/ This was not: http

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-15 Thread Jens Bladt
Sendt: 12. februar 2007 20:32 Til: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Emne: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) I've noticed this with my DS too. It is a real PITA in difficult light (read concert shooting). If I don't have time to do proper spot metering I tend to end up

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-15 Thread Jens Bladt
PROTECTED] vegne af Digital Image Studio Sendt: 12. februar 2007 21:59 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) On 13/02/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is ACR, Rob? I curious, since I am definitely going to keep my *ist D

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-15 Thread Jens Bladt
77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af William Robb Sendt: 12. februar 2007 18:01 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) - Original Message - From

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) Thanks, William. Is this something more sofisticated than just shooting Raw files? http://www.rags-int-inc.com/PhotoTechStuff/ColorCalibration/ Oh yes. This is how

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 15, 2007, at 7:59 PM, William Robb wrote: Is this something more sofisticated than just shooting Raw files? http://www.rags-int-inc.com/PhotoTechStuff/ColorCalibration/ Oh yes. This is how to calibrate ACR so that your pictures come out the right colour without fiddling. At

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
Personally, I've tried several different sets of ACR calibrations for the *ist DS and K10D that people have posted here and elsewhere ... and all of them produced results as default starting points for color balance that were farther off the mark than just opening the DNG file

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/02/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with Godders on this one. What's more, the ideal color temperature varies depending on the situation, IMO. For example, when I shot wedding reception pics in a somewhat dark restaurant with tungsten lighting, I chose to keep the look

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
That makes sense. In any case, I do intend to try the calibration. I bookmarked your reference page. Paul On Feb 13, 2007, at 7:01 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 13/02/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with Godders on this one. What's more, the ideal color temperature varies

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The key to getting a good white balance is to find and sample a light gray area, not a white area... G On Feb 13, 2007, at 2:23 AM, John Whittingham wrote: It's great when you have a definitive reference for white, but caused me no end of trouble with my recent Cormorant cock-up 8)

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
The key to getting a good white balance is to find and sample a light gray area, not a white area... I've tried that at first but it never seemed right, maybe I need to re- install. BTW which version of ACR are you using? John

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:09 AM, John Whittingham wrote: The key to getting a good white balance is to find and sample a light gray area, not a white area... I've tried that at first but it never seemed right, maybe I need to re- install. BTW which version of ACR are you using? Right now

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Tim Øsleby
-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) Caucasian skin tones are apparently a problem for Bayer Matrix sensors because they are within the frequency response curves for both green and red sensor sites, which tends to give an additional red cast

RE: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
(Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?) On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:09 AM, John Whittingham wrote: The key to getting a good white balance is to find and sample a light gray area, not a white area... I've tried that at first but it never seemed right, maybe I need to re- install. BTW which version of ACR

RE: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
Probably the best and safest way to ensure a good white balance is to take an extra shot under the same lighting w/ a neutral gray card in scene and use that for auto white balance adjustment reference image WB to adjust actual image WB manually. Not the most convenient of things on a

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
I doubt you have to re-install anything, though. Finding the *right* gray spot to sample is the trick. ;-) You mean like using the grey card as we all did with film, yes? I never considered that *light* grey. John

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 13, 2007, at 10:43 AM, John Whittingham wrote: Probably the best and safest way to ensure a good white balance is to take an extra shot under the same lighting w/ a neutral gray card in scene and use that for auto white balance adjustment reference image WB to adjust actual image

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 13, 2007, at 10:40 AM, John Whittingham wrote: I doubt you have to re-install anything, though. Finding the *right* gray spot to sample is the trick. ;-) You mean like using the grey card as we all did with film, yes? I never considered that *light* grey. The old standard

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
A small card with white/gray/black patches is very easy to keep in your pocket and snap an exposure of if you're unsure of the light. The resulting white-balance setting can be used for all exposures taken in the same light. There are several of these available on the market, for

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/02/07, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's worth considering but I'm not sure I can be bothered with the hassle, great indoors for sudio work or location shoot. There are a some convenient WB card options available: http://www.rawworkflow.com/products/whibal/index.html

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 13, 2007, at 1:19 PM, John Whittingham wrote: A small card with white/gray/black patches is very easy to keep in your pocket and snap an exposure of if you're unsure of the light. The resulting white-balance setting can be used for all exposures taken in the same light. There are

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks Godfrey and Robert, I may just invest in one, more enablement :) John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
The old standard reference, 18% gray, is a little dark for white balance use although it does work fine in good light ... that's supposed to be a Zone V gray. I prefer to use a Zone VIII gray, about 60% gray reflectance. OK, now I'm getting somewhere. I've had less than 300 shutter

RE: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?) The old standard reference, 18% gray

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Whittingham Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?) The old standard reference, 18% gray, is a little dark for white balance use although it does work fine in good light ... that's

RE: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?)

2007-02-13 Thread David Savage
in the scene? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:17 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D imagequality?) The old standard

SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Jens Bladt
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Digital Image Studio Sendt: 11. februar 2007 22:47 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) On 12/02/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: I want to add, that it have always

SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Jens Bladt
(Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) color casts in highlights could be a white balance issue. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Adobe Camera Raw. Personally, I've tried several different sets of ACR calibrations for the *ist DS and K10D that people have posted here and elsewhere ... and all of them produced results as default starting points for color balance that were farther off the mark than just opening the DNG

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) What is ACR, Rob? I curious, since I am definitely going to keep my *ist D! Adobe Camera RAW. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, February 12, 2007 11:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) Funny, you shoud say that JCO'C. I have been thingking the same since I got the K10D. The redish cast in the (over) exposed areas have alwasy sbeen a PITA to me

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Øsleby
plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: 11. februar 2007 16:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) PPS: I have added a little test to my Flickr

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 13/02/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is ACR, Rob? I curious, since I am definitely going to keep my *ist D! Regards Adobe Camera RAW, the import engine, see the following article on calibration of ACR for your camera: http://www.rags-int-inc.com/PhotoTechStuff/AcrCalibration/

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Adam Maas
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: 11. februar 2007 16:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) PPS: I have added a little test to my Flickr pages as well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594529582033

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread David Savage
77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Digital Image Studio Sendt: 11. februar 2007 22:47 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) On 12/02

Re: SV: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
, slightly bluish cast. The tonality is part and parcel to the subject meter. Setting it by eye is usually the best alternative. Paul On Feb 12, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Adobe Camera Raw. Personally, I've tried several different sets of ACR calibrations for the *ist DS

Re: RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-11 Thread John Whittingham
I found the multi-segment metering in the ist-D to be very good - I started using it even though I'd been a lifelong centerweighted-metering photographer up until then. But I've found the multi-segment metering in the K10D to be even better. I hardly ever use centerweighted any more.

Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-11 Thread Peter Lacus
Jens, I've done this right a 1000 times. And the strategy for a (too) bright sky sky IS the same as for a backlit scenry. And - so why does the *ist D do the exact scenery right (not over compensating)? perhaps you can find the answer here:

Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Jens Bladt
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Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Jens, at al. I did not perform any tests such as this one, however my general impression is that K10D: 1. Has slightly wider dynamic range. 2. Has more consistent auto white balance operation. 3. Renders images in somewhat more faithful way. The colors look more natural. Just my cents. On

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, February 11, 2007 7:55 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) Jens, at al. I did not perform any tests such as this one, however my general impression is that K10D: 1. Has slightly wider dynamic range. 2. Has more consistent auto

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Jens Bladt
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RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Jens Bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jens Bladt Sendt: 11. februar 2007 13:36 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) William, PauI, Godfrey, Rob, Peter, David, John ... I don't know

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Whatever the issue was, i'm glad you have sorted it out to your satisfaction. A proper exposure test would mean, to me, using the same lens and repeating the exact same setup/capture with each of the two camera bodies you are comparing. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Jens Bladt
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Godfrey DiGiorgi Sendt: 11. februar 2007 16:33 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) Whatever the issue was, i'm glad you have sorted it out to your satisfaction. A proper exposure test would mean, to me

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Jens Bladt
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RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Mail List Subject: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) Godfrey, that's basically what I did! If not the very same lens - just two lenses of the exact same model and make. Two K10D's or two *ist D's may be slightlydifferent too. HAd I used the saqme lens - the time

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?) JCO, Boris, Godfrey For my purposes I don't really need scientific tests. I'm not a scientist - just a photographer, who wnats

Re: RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-11 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 12:09:02PM +0100, John Whittingham wrote: Switched to multi-segment with the MZ-3, found it to be accurate and consistent although I would occasionally use spot metering fot tricky lighting situations. That's what I did, too (except for the fact I had a PZ-1p, not

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Using the same lens will give you more accuracy as lenses vary one to another. Of course, you're testing just one sample of K10D against one sample of *ist D bodies, but I thought that's what you were after. You can make the exact same test regardless of time, if you work with controlled

Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 11, 2007, at 11:35 AM, John Francis wrote: As a matter of interest, does anyone know how the spot metering area of the digital bodies compares to that of the PZ-1p? I believe that was 2.5% of the area (of a 24x36 frame), so I'd expect the digitals would be 5% if they were using the

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/02/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: I want to add, that it have always annoyed me a little, that the D has a tendency of colouring overexposed areas redish - rendering very bright parts with a reddish cast. That's one of the reasons I had a tendency of deliberately

RE: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
color casts in highlights could be a white balance issue. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs

Re: Better K10D exposure-tests (Was:*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?)

2007-02-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/02/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: color casts in highlights could be a white balance issue. It could be but generally if the WB has been made from a reference patch of mid-range exposure and your shadows still show tints then the default Shadow Tint (advanced calibrate tab)

RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread Jens Bladt
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Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 10, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: ... However, I never really understood the thing about card speed. The *ist D, for instance, could only utilze a fast card up to a certain point. Cards faster thant this and that would NOT improve the write speed. Where would this point

Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality? That's a good point, Godfrey. You are right of course. I alrady had the card, when I got the camera - and naturally I will buy a faster card shortly. However, I never really understood the thing

RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread Jens Bladt
85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af William Robb Sendt: 10. februar 2007 18:56 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality? - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: *ist

SV: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread Jens Bladt
2007 17:10 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality? On Feb 10, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: ... However, I never really understood the thing about card speed. The *ist D, for instance, could only utilze a fast card up to a certain point. Cards faster thant

Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality? Regarding exposure, I'll do som emore test tomorrow, evenly lit scenes (walls, grey card etc.) as well ad contraty ones, im order tio figure out if the meter is off or if the matrix metering

RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread Jens Bladt
Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Godfrey DiGiorgi Sendt: 10. februar 2007 17:10 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality? On Feb 10, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: ... However, I never

Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 10, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: I also discovered that I had the contrast set to +1. This may partly have caused the burned out sky/the missing clouds. That's a big help, but for such a scene I actually prefer the K10D's rendering over the D's ... As WR suggested, it's a

RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread Jens Bladt
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RE: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-10 Thread Jens Bladt
Mail List Emne: Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality? On Feb 10, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: I also discovered that I had the contrast set to +1. This may partly have caused the burned out sky/the missing clouds. That's a big help, but for such a scene I actually prefer the K10D's

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