Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread jtainter
But then along comes the SMC Pentax-DA 40mm f/2.8 Ltd. This looks like an interesting lens. Its pros are: Compactness, great image quality, great bokeh, solid construction. Its cons are: wide open is only f/2.8, and it doesn't seem to fit into any particular suite of lenses. Dave, at first I

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread David Oswald
jtainter wrote: snip There is also the D FA 100 f2.8 macro for your 50-135 gap. That's a good thought. I almost forgot that I had considered it. My only concern is that I've understood that lens to be, well, a bit too sharp for things like tight portraits. Is that the case?

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Setting aside the distinctions between DA, D-FA, FA, F, A, M, and basic K lenses, I wanted to discuss focal lengths for the *ist-DS. I've got my zoom kit pretty much where I want it for now: SMC Pentax-DA 16-45mm f/4 ED AL SMC Pentax-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 IF AL SMC Pentax-FA 80

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! A few things you might consider to sway you to the DS * The 4-way rocker on the DS is a bit better. * Slightly bigger LCD * Slightly faster frame rate and bigger buffer * USB 2 (although if you use a card reader, it doesn't matter) * SD cards may be more robust (though I have no evidence to

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Oswald) wrote: Now I'm working on building my fixed focal length kit. Currently it consists only of the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4. Lovely chunk of glass. But then along comes the SMC Pentax-DA 40mm f/2.8 Ltd. This looks like an

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2005, at 11:15 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: 1. Readily available choice of metering mode on D. On the DS, I have P, Tv, Av, M and B. I also have program preset scene modes. I have matrix pattern metering, CW Averaging metering, Spot metering. What'd different, other than two wheels for

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread David Oswald
Boris Liberman wrote: It seems one item is missing here. Or may be even two. 1. Readily available choice of metering mode on D. The *ist-DS takes six button presses to change metering modes, and three of them are scrolling through the menu. I admit to missing the simplicity of the ZX-5n's

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! On the DS, I have P, Tv, Av, M and B. I also have program preset scene modes. I have matrix pattern metering, CW Averaging metering, Spot metering. What'd different, other than two wheels for aperture and shutter speed selection and an option in the P mode to slide into Av or Tv mode?

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: What I meant is that you can switch between matrix, center-weighted and spot metering by mere flick of a switch. Not sure this is as easy on DS. It's a couple of button presses, not find and flick a switch. Not a big difference one way or the

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: What I meant is that you can switch between matrix, center-weighted and spot metering by mere flick of a switch. Not sure this is as easy on DS. It's a couple of button presses, not find and flick a switch. Not a big difference one way or the

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: What I meant is that you can switch between matrix, center-weighted and spot metering by mere flick of a switch. Not sure this is as easy on DS. It's a couple of button presses, not find and flick a switch. Not a big difference one way or the

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! How would being able to release the shutter whether or not the lens was in focus solve a problem with a lens being 'soft'? I don't understand. You see, I wrote earlier that on infinity my soft lens would focus but wouldn't lock the focus, so in AF-S mode I wouldn't be able to release the

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
I see the DA 40 as an alternative to the 35. The 50 is much faster. The real advantage of the 40 is that it is so small (and has that compact hood) that it fits easily under a coat in bad wether or even in a big coat pocket. It's just flatter than many other SLR/lens combinations. Steven

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 3 May 2005, David Oswald wrote: I think I've settled on what to work on accumulating: a 35mm f/2, a 135mm f/2.8, and a 20mm f/2.8. This still leaves me with a gap between 50mm and 135mm, but currently there's just nothing in the Pentax assortment I can afford at, say, around 85mm,

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread John Whittingham
Can I recommend the Tamron 90/2.8. You can get a used MF one for 100-120GBP. And the AF version new could be cheaper than the FA100. I'd second that, the new version gets some very positive comments. John

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Steve Jolly
jtainter wrote: There will be a suite by 2006. Pentax plans at least two more lenses in this series, both limited pancakes. There will be a DA20-30 (exact focal length not yet specified) and a DA 60-70. The latter may meet your need for something above 50 but below 135. Based on recent history, I

*ist-DS flash problem revisited

2005-05-03 Thread David Oswald
I'm getting ready to send my *ist-DS to Pentax for warranty service. Before I do I just wanted to call out and see if anyone else has had a similar experience with their *ist-DS flash, and if so, what the outcome was after being serviced. My *ist-DS's internal flash fires at full power always

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread David Oswald
Steve Jolly wrote: jtainter wrote: There will be a suite by 2006. Pentax plans at least two more lenses in this series, both limited pancakes. There will be a DA20-30 (exact focal length not yet specified) and a DA 60-70. The latter may meet your need for something above 50 but below 135. Based

Re: *ist-DS flash problem revisited

2005-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Never seen that with my camera. Definitely a warranty job. Godfrey On May 3, 2005, at 3:11 PM, David Oswald wrote: I'm getting ready to send my *ist-DS to Pentax for warranty service. Before I do I just wanted to call out and see if anyone else has had a similar experience with their *ist-DS

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2005, at 3:12 PM, David Oswald wrote: A 20-30mm lens would have to be a retrofocus design, wouldn't it? I'll be fascinated to see how Pentax manage that one. :-) For us laypeople, what do you mean by a retrofocus design, and why do you say a 20 to 30mm lens would have to be that? Sorry

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 May 2005 at 8:46, David Oswald wrote: Now I'm working on building my fixed focal length kit. Currently it consists only of the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4. I love that lens; its focal length is great as a mild telephoto, very nice for portraits. And its so small, yields a bright

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 May 2005 at 11:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's funny. All these exotic and convenient features mean so much to so many ... yet so many of my favorite pictures for most of the past 40 years were made with cameras that had nothing but focus, aperture and shutter speed settings, and

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
the camera to your eye ... perfect for unobtrusiveness. I use the *ist DS in much the same way a lot of the time. Godfrey

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Mark Cassino
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. And finally presence of MTF, depth, and speed programs on D as opposed to subject dependent programs of Ds. Can you articulate more fully what these MTF, Depth and Speed programs on the D are? I just skimmed through the D manual and don't see what you

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
A 20-30mm lens would have to be a retrofocus design, wouldn't it? I'll be fascinated to see how Pentax manage that one. :-) Not sure what you are asking, Steve. Pentax has wide-angle, retrofocus lenses. Are you suggesting that such can't be a pancake design? I wouldn't know. Anyone else? Joe

Re: Ist-D or Ist-Ds ?

2005-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I have no idea why my last reponse posted to PDML three times. I only sent it once. That thought occurred to me as well :). I think I'd find it easier and more consistent to just switch the camera to manual focus in those instances rather than C-AF. I only use C-AF when I'm trying to do

*ist-DS Flash trigger voltage info (From Pentax!)

2005-04-29 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I just got a phone message from a Pentax support guy. He talked with the engineers in Japan and has definatively found the safe flash trigger voltage. They say that the *ist-DS is safe for 480V, 1.26A max. There was a lot of mis/disinformation out there on that, so this should be at least

Re: *ist-DS Flash trigger voltage info (From Pentax!)

2005-04-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: *ist-DS Flash trigger voltage info (From Pentax!) I just got a phone message from a Pentax support guy. He talked with the engineers in Japan and has definatively found the safe flash trigger voltage. They say that the *ist-DS

Re: *ist-DS Flash trigger voltage info (From Pentax!)

2005-04-29 Thread Graywolf
that. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: *ist-DS Flash trigger voltage info (From Pentax!) I just got a phone message from a Pentax support guy. He

*ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Gary McKenzie
Hi, I'm thinking of buying a Pentax *ist DS Digital SLR specifically for astronomical imaging and would appreciate some info on the camera. Specifically, what chip is used as the ccd sensor - I have been told that it is the same ccd as in the Nikon D70? Is this so? Also, is the IR filter

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Apr 2005 at 19:19, Gary McKenzie wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of buying a Pentax *ist DS Digital SLR specifically for astronomical imaging and would appreciate some info on the camera. Specifically, what chip is used as the ccd sensor - I have been told that it is the same ccd

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/4/05, Gary McKenzie, discombobulated, unleashed: Also, is the IR filter removable (this is to increase red sensitivity for Hydrogen Alpha images) - on a Nikon D70 it is removable relatively easily, and on Canon cameras is a royal pain to remove. This link may or may not be of interest:

Re: Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/04/28 Thu AM 10:28:27 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: *ist DS questions On 28/4/05, Gary McKenzie, discombobulated, unleashed: Also, is the IR filter removable (this is to increase red sensitivity for Hydrogen Alpha

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Apr 2005 at 19:19, Gary McKenzie wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of buying a Pentax *ist DS Digital SLR specifically for astronomical imaging and would appreciate some info on the camera. Specifically, what chip is used as the ccd sensor - I have been

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Studdert wrote on 28.04.05 12:15: Yes they use the same sensor, the Sony ICX413AQ, here is a brochure: http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol28/pdf/icx413np.pdf That's not true Rob. D70 uses different sensor made by Sanyo to Nikon's specifications. If you look closely on spec

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Bill Owens
Mark, I've heard from a reliable source that Nikon, Canon digital PS cameras, as well as my Pentax Optio 50 are all made by Sanyo. Bill The Nikon D-100 and Pentax ist-D/DS use this sensor. The D-70 uses a different one. (Actually rumoured to be made by Sanyo, though I'm not sure I believe that.)

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Gary McKenzie wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of buying a Pentax *ist DS Digital SLR specifically for astronomical imaging and would appreciate some info on the camera. Specifically, what chip is used as the ccd sensor - I have been told that it is the same ccd as in the Nikon D70

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Apr 2005 at 14:00, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Rob Studdert wrote on 28.04.05 12:15: Yes they use the same sensor, the Sony ICX413AQ, here is a brochure: http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol28/pdf/icx413np.pdf That's not true Rob. D70 uses different sensor made by Sanyo

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Apr 2005 at 8:30, Cory Papenfuss wrote: - You will need the AC adapter for any long-time exposures. I posted awhile back on the voltage/current of the power adapter and someone responded with 6.5V, 3.0A. Since I'm a cheap bastard, I have modified a 6V 1A wall-wart power supply to

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: On 28 Apr 2005 at 8:30, Cory Papenfuss wrote: - You will need the AC adapter for any long-time exposures. I posted awhile back on the voltage/current of the power adapter and someone responded with 6.5V, 3.0A. Since I'm a cheap bastard, I have modified a

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
Totally OT here. I immediately though of the line form Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy, We may or may not be from the Philosopher's Union. Sorry, just waiting for the movie. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540)

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Apr 2005 at 9:46, Cory Papenfuss wrote: I guess I forgot that. Sleep being different from the first one (standby, no meter) in that the top LCD is also off. Will measure that next time I bring it into school just for completeness. My modification of the power supply basically

Re: *ist DS questions

2005-04-28 Thread Herb Chong
and save money on transportation costs. they have at least one other factory in Japan for digital PS cameras. Herb - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:36 AM Subject: Re: *ist DS questions I've heard from

Ist DS and Sunpak 555 Flash

2005-04-26 Thread Meredith Markham
Has anyone out there tried using the Sunpak 555 flash with their *Ist DS? If so, how well does it work and what connectors are you using? Thanks, Mark

Re: Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-22 Thread Fred
Your mileage obviously varies, In that case, I apologize for the rant. I'm of the school of thought [snip] get in the way of sensibility and regard for others' time. But to your point, I probably derive my outlook from years on Usenet groups [snip] just lighten up. :) This list is for

Re: FA 50mm 1.4 on IST-Ds

2005-04-21 Thread Thibouille
That's what I thought. OK, no need to invest in short tele for my Ds then, excellent! Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:03 +0100 (BST), John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thibouille) wrote: Wouldn't that lens make a good portrait lens? Would give about 75mm

*ist Ds File Naming Convention

2005-04-21 Thread Cotty
My friend has just returned from 4 weeks in Australia with his Ds, and has a question - question: My friend shot 90 frames mixing RAW and high quality Jpeg, and and the file names are all IMGP.PEF and IMGP.JPG as one would expect. My friend then takes his SD card out of the camera and

Re: *ist Ds File Naming Convention

2005-04-21 Thread Alan P. Hayes
With my D, when I changed the color space from sRGB to AdobeRGB the prefix went from IMGP to _IGP, at least for jpegs. RAW files still have the IMGP prefix. At 1:30 PM +0100 4/21/05, Cotty wrote: My friend has just returned from 4 weeks in Australia with his Ds, and has a question -

Re: *ist Ds File Naming Convention

2005-04-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Apr 2005 at 9:08, Alan P. Hayes wrote: With my D, when I changed the color space from sRGB to AdobeRGB the prefix went from IMGP to _IGP, at least for jpegs. RAW files still have the IMGP prefix. Got it in one, in-camera processed files reference to the AdobeRGB always have the

Re: *ist Ds File Naming Convention

2005-04-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/4/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: USA or even a USB reader :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: *ist Ds File Naming Convention

2005-04-21 Thread Cotty
With my D, when I changed the color space from sRGB to AdobeRGB the prefix went from IMGP to _IGP, at least for jpegs. RAW files still have the IMGP prefix. Got it in one, in-camera processed files reference to the AdobeRGB always have the prefix _IGP, RAW files have no inherent colour

FA 50mm 1.4 on IST-Ds

2005-04-20 Thread Thibouille
Wouldn't that lens make a good portrait lens? Would give about 75mm on a 35mm and with 1.4 aperture it would allow a good DOF. Any comments? -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...

Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-20 Thread Thibouille
I read on the muanaul of the Ds that TTL can under or over exposure with bright lenses. Anyone ran into such problems? -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...

Re: FA 50mm 1.4 on IST-Ds

2005-04-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The 50mm lens is about my favorite portrait tele with the DS. I have several of them: A50/1.4, A50/1.7, A50/2, F50/1.7 and A50/2.8 Macro. Each has its distinct character. 50mm is about my most used focal length, even if I'm using a zoom lens. Godfrey On Apr 19, 2005, at 11:07 PM, Thibouille

Re: Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No more or less so than any other flash system I've seen. BTW: the *ist DS built in flash does P-TTL or full power manual output *only*, not TTL flash. Dedicated external flash units can do P-TTL, TTL or manual. Godfrey On Apr 19, 2005, at 11:11 PM, Thibouille wrote: I read on the muanaul

Re: Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-20 Thread David Oswald
of my lenses using the built-in flash (I think I need to have my *ist-DS serviced). That flash is PTTL. But my TTL flash (AF330FTZ) works flawlessly on my *ist-DS, regardless of the lens. Thibouille wrote: I read on the muanaul of the Ds that TTL can under or over exposure with bright lenses

Re: Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-20 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, David Oswald wrote: You posted five questions in five minutes. Try saving them up for a half hour or so, and posting them all together. I prefer Thibouille's method. As a reader I can skip subjects I don't like. As a writer I can expect more and more focused answers.

Re: Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-20 Thread Thibouille
Yeah that's why I made one email per question ;) Of course I can't satisfy everyone ... (ouch). Reason is, a friend of mine is in the US and I'm about to ask him to buy me a Ds (with or without 18-55mm). He can't find it where is body only. But 870 dollars for body+ 18-55mm sounds good for me.

Re: Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-20 Thread Thibouille
, but it's probable that he hasn't gotten to them yet. I've had overexposure problems with all of my lenses using the built-in flash (I think I need to have my *ist-DS serviced). That flash is PTTL. But my TTL flash (AF330FTZ) works flawlessly on my *ist-DS, regardless of the lens

Re: Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-20 Thread David Oswald
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, David Oswald wrote: You posted five questions in five minutes. Try saving them up for a half hour or so, and posting them all together. I prefer Thibouille's method. As a reader I can skip subjects I don't like. As a writer I can expect more and

Re: Ist-Ds and plain usual TTL

2005-04-20 Thread Thibouille
Sure, I don't mind at all ;) And thanks for the answers ... 2005/4/20, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, David Oswald wrote: You posted five questions in five minutes. Try saving them up for a half hour or so, and posting them all

Re: FA 50mm 1.4 on IST-Ds

2005-04-20 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thibouille) wrote: Wouldn't that lens make a good portrait lens? Would give about 75mm on a 35mm and with 1.4 aperture it would allow a good DOF. Any comments? Yup: that's what I use for about 90% of my shooting on the *istD. The combination

RE: *ist-DS is fantastic! Pentax did not let me down!

2005-04-17 Thread Joe
] Verzonden: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:11 PM Aan: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Onderwerp: Re: *ist-DS is fantastic! Pentax did not let me down! On Friday 08 April 2005 22:13, Joe wrote: FJW Dear group, FJW I have the DS now two days. FJW I paid 879 euro in Holland including the 18-55. FJW I love

RE: *ist-DS is fantastic! Pentax did not let me down!

2005-04-17 Thread Jens Bladt
with the shape of fingers. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 17. april 2005 14:57 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: *ist-DS is fantastic! Pentax did not let me down! I bought it at Cityfoto

Re: *ist-DS is fantastic! Pentax did not let me down!

2005-04-13 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Friday 08 April 2005 22:13, Joe wrote: FJW Dear group, FJW I have the DS now two days. FJW I paid 879 euro in Holland including the 18-55. FJW I love it and it is exceeding my expetations! FJW My nice M-lenses that I bought 30 years ago with my MX work just fine! with FJW easier metering than

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-12 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bottom line is that everyone's correct, it just depends on which generation/type of technology is being referred to. Don, I'm really disappointed that you of all people would take this attitude. There's

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bottom line is that everyone's correct, it just depends on which generation/type of technology is being referred to. Don, I'm really disappointed that you of all people

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-12 Thread John Mullan
One purpose of the meow sound is to drive my wife nuts wondering where the cat is. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Pentax ist DS shutter. Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-11 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (with all the stupid shutter emulation sounds turned off, of course ;-) As an aside (to this remark specifically) I have actually found ONE use for the stupid shutter emulation sounds! When supervising use of my Optio by my children, it's

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Apr 2005 at 12:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an aside (to this remark specifically) I have actually found ONE use for the stupid shutter emulation sounds! When supervising use of my Optio by my children, it's nice to know if they've actually captured when they think they have.

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-11 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:32:12 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: A friend of mine has the miaow set for power up on her Optio, every time she powers it up at home around the cat he's off on a hunt to find the intruder ;-) Wow, now I'm going to _have_ to go see if there's a miaow sound in my S5i ... at

re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 Apr 2005 at 21:17, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'm rather astonished that you are all so misinformed and do not understand how digital cameras and digital SLRs operate with regard to the sensor and shutter... Rob, The same thing for the Olympus E10/20. OK, I submit to your superior

Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-10 Thread Alan Chan
--- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I own three transparent Pentax bodies, the SF1, PZ10, and a 110 Pentax. It would be cool if Pentax had made a transparent *ist D- and I could get one. Is DS good enough? http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/41855760 Alan Chan

Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Apr 2005 at 0:08, Alan Chan wrote: --- Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I own three transparent Pentax bodies, the SF1, PZ10, and a 110 Pentax. It would be cool if Pentax had made a transparent *ist D- and I could get one. Is DS good enough?

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread David Mann
On Apr 10, 2005, at 5:05 AM, Don Sanderson wrote: Sounds like the same disease I have. Curiousititis. ;-) I tend to do the same (I am an engineer - that's my excuse anyway)... but I do have my limits. I won't take anything apart that I don't think I'll be able to put back together. I also tend

RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Don Sanderson
PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:06 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: re: Pentax ist DS shutter. On 9 Apr 2005 at 21:17, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'm rather astonished that you are all so misinformed and do not understand how digital cameras and digital SLRs operate with regard

Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-10 Thread Frantisek
AC Is DS good enough? AC http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/41855760 :-) I another stroke of marketing ingenuinty and design genius (just remember these silver LTDs on black MZ-S), Pentax succeeded in making the world's first half-naked transparent camera... Oh god what were they thinking when

RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Peter Williams
-Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nearly all digital cameras have a mechanical shutter. Only very I'm rather astonished that you are all so misinformed and do not understand how digital cameras and digital SLRs operate with regard to the sensor

RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Peter Williams
-Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I submit to your superior knowledge (and distinct lack of tact). I feel like it is me who lacks tact, not Godfrey. -- Peter Williams

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further arguement to support the no shutter theory was that the A1 and A2 could do flash synch at full shutter speeds, that is up to 1/4000th sec. I don't know whether or not the A2 has a shutter, but the flash sync probably doesn't make a difference: If

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bottom line is that everyone's correct, it just depends on which generation/type of technology is being referred to. Don, I'm really disappointed that you of all people would take this attitude. There's only one way to answer this question for certain:

RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Don Sanderson
I have the screwdriver (and hacksaw AND Dremel!), do you need my address to send the subject (victim) to? ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:02 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax ist DS shutter

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the screwdriver (and hacksaw AND Dremel!), do you need my address to send the subject (victim) to? ;-) Alas, I have no PS digital. Someone else will have to do the honorable thing. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 10, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Peter Williams wrote: We had quite a debate about this way back on the dpreview Minolta talk forum. I initially said that the A2 had a shutter, arguements to the contrary convinced me that there was no shutter. Others said if you look down the lens you can see the

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 10, 2005, at 2:53 AM, Don Sanderson wrote: From what I was able to see my Olympus C5050 simply stopped down and captured the image. With the aperture wide open I could see the sensor thru the lens the whole time the exposure was being made. At no time did the iris close. The 5050 is a

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Taking Godfrey's suggestion, it's clear that my little Sony Cybershot DSC-S85 has a shutter. I can hear it as well as see it. With other cameras, YMMV. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Apr 10, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Peter Williams wrote: We had quite a debate about this

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread williamsp
Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know whether or not the A2 has a shutter, but the flash sync probably doesn't make a difference: If it does have a shutter it's most likely a leaf shutter so it could flash sync at high speed. I agree that it would have to be a leaf, not

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread williamsp
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The reason the A2 can perform flash sync at 1/4000 second is that it is a leaf shutter design: there is a point in the operation of a leaf shutter that all blades are fully open at all shutter speeds. What leaf shutter is able to work at

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The problem with leaf shutters on standard cameras has to do with size and mass, and, of course, acceleration. Such shutters are much larger and heavier than the shutters on the small digicams. At some point the larger shutters are unable to maintain accurate shutter speeds. This has often been

Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-09 Thread Johan Uiterwijk Winkel
Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. Thanx. Johan. (Great camera, especially with an 50mm 1.7 A :-) )

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-09 Thread Steve Jolly
Johan Uiterwijk Winkel wrote: Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. It's mechanical. If you do take it apart, be sure to post some photos of the innards to the list

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-09 Thread Johan Uiterwijk Winkel
Steve Jolly wrote: Johan Uiterwijk Winkel wrote: Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. It's mechanical. That nice. At least there's something between the big dusty

RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-09 Thread Peter Williams
-Original Message- From: Johan Uiterwijk Winkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. It has a normal focal plane shutter

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/4/05, Johan Uiterwijk Winkel, discombobulated, unleashed: But when I do, I'll send them. (Ofcource, the photo's are then taken with a low budget digicam) Do you mind if I ask why you are taking your Ds apart? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 9, 2005, at 12:35 AM, Peter Williams wrote: Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. It has a normal focal plane shutter. They are required with the dslr type

inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This guy took the top cover off his DS to replace an eyepiece element and provided a couple of pictures of the camera dismantled to this point: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=13012591 enjoy, Godfrey

Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-09 Thread Johan Uiterwijk Winkel
apart by me. It can take one year, it can take much longer (in case of the ist ds I hope it will take very long.) Most of the time because it's broken. So, I hope it will take a long time before it happends, and at that time Pentax has hopefully released another generation of digital bodies, so

RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.

2005-04-09 Thread Don Sanderson
Sounds like the same disease I have. Curiousititis. ;-) Don (The succinct and curious) -Original Message- From: Johan Uiterwijk Winkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:58 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax ist DS shutter. Cotty wrote

Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-09 Thread Jim Apilado
-discuss@pdml.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: inside Pentax *ist DS ... Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:47:31 -0400 This guy took the top cover off his DS to replace an eyepiece element and provided a couple of pictures of the camera dismantled

Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...

2005-04-09 Thread Frantisek
That's some wirey mess ;-) (seriously - not at all, you should see the old Fujicas...) That could be an incentive for list members to replace the plastic eyepiece lens with a glass one, just like some did with PZ1p! Good light! fra

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