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hi, I dont agree with your economic model of DSLR pricing
even on todays available models so I certainly dont agree
that the M42 DSLR cannot be economically unfeasable forever
becuase there would be no lenses sold
. J. Alling
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 2:13 AM
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I doubt that was the case of the Epson RD-1, or any Voightlander Bessa
film model for that matter as they were aimed directly at the existing
Leica s and l lens base. I
23, 2007 9:27 AM
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Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
Not only is the economic model I described a valid concept, it even has
a name. See, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_leader
This one is also applicable,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
Heart or Head matters not, to the vendors, because the cash is still
green.
jco
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If the camera was the only source of profit, it would need to be so
expensive that customers will stay away
From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/22 Thu AM 12:41:53 GMT
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I'm jumping in a bit late on this, but I've got a couple of
comments about my opinion of Sony
Commenting on your
specifically for people who only want to buy the new body, cost
will be higher, yes, but not necessarily economically unfeasable forever
which is what
you are implying here.
jco
Actually, it's what everyone *except* you are implying
including the folks who could actually build
I'm jumping in a bit late on this, but I've got a couple of
comments about my opinion of Sony
Commenting on your own opinion is rather Napoleonic, even for PDML.
Err... PEBKAC. I wasn't commenting on my own opinions... just
that I wanted to express my opinions on the then-topic
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I dont agree that a M42 DSLR based on licensed existing DSLR body
and just modified to do M42 auto apeture would be very
expensive
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Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
You're not listening.
Get used to it.
William Robb
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accessories from a competitor.
Regards,
Anthony Farr
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I dont agree
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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
I doubt that was the case of the Epson RD-1, or any Voightlander Bessa
film model for that matter as they were aimed directly at the existing
Leica s and l lens base. I doubt that Cosina doesn't
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specifically for people who only want to buy the new body, cost will
be higher, yes, but not necessarily
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Actually, what I was trying to say is that the price of DSLRs is not the
real, standalone price of a unique product. It is a subsidised price
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I dont agree that a M42 DSLR based on licensed existing DSLR body
and just modified to do M42 auto apeture would be very
expensive to develop
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Note that Cosina is making a killing selling LTM and M mount lenses that
are almost as good
. C. O'Connell
Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 7:39 PM
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I dont agree that a M42 DSLR based on licensed existing DSLR body
and just modified to do M42 auto apeture would be very
expensive to develop or produce
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed AM 12:41:27 GMT
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
An M42 DSLR would not be old technology would it?
The whole purpose of one would be to use the millions
of quality M42
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed AM 03:43:58 GMT
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Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
It might not be that small a niche if it were designed correctly it
could be build to cater to a number of classic lenses
On 2/21/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It might not be that small a niche if it were designed correctly it
could be build to cater to a number of classic lenses. A simple
change of the front module and you have a Classic FD lens mount
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Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
It might not be that small a niche if it were designed correctly it
could be build to cater to a number of classic lenses. A simple
change of the front module and you have a Classic FD lens mount DSLR
Pentax already did that...
http://www.photokina-show.com/0466/pentax/digitalcamera/pentaxdigitalcameras/
Boris Liberman wrote:
On 2/21/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It might not be that small a niche if it were designed correctly it
could
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Actually not really, I was correct but I didnt state PENTAX
manual focusl lenses new but the original post
DID state why not buy PENTAX AF lenses. Of course you
can a lot of manual focus lenses in general, but not
from PENTAX you cant for their DSLRs.
Yes you can.
You're right. It would be a niche camera for screwmount owners. But
it's nothing to get worked up about.
You must be new here ;-)
-Cory
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I wasnt discussing price, but if you already
have the lenses or want to buy high quality M42
lenses, the higher cost of the body is offset
in the system context because the lenses are
much lower cost ( or no extra cost if you
already have them )
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 12:27:47 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
On 2/21/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It might not be that small
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 12:50:48 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
I'm sure that Cosina is already working on it. I don;t expect the
modules to be user, replaceable, but a factory
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You don't think the destruction is already in progress?
I believe SLR sales are at an all-time high. That's do of course to the
transition to digital, but it certainly doesn't spell doom.
And what's more, it's due to the transition to digital. My brain will now
return to its disengaged, comatose state.
Paul
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Yes, but I was being Ironic.
mike wilson wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 12:50:48 GMT
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Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
I'm sure that Cosina is already working on it. I don;t expect the
modules
On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:27 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
I like the idea of K-mount digital range finder much better ;-). I
don't think modular appears in vocabulary of any camera manufacturer
unless we're talking medium format and bigger...
Rollei tried a modular 35mm SLR some years back. It was
/neovenatorphoto
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From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:29 AM
Subject: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260086611089
Oh, I remember how the conversation ended: we pondered how to trigger
the electronics and decided that we can hotwire the flash sync. Piece
of cake. But then you're stuck shooting only at 1/60...
(In the original thread someone said that it should be mentioned to
Tamron before someone else
On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:55 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
http://www.photokina-show.com/0466/pentax/digitalcamera/
pentaxdigitalcameras/
I'd like something like that, with a sensor related to the one in the
Sony R1. It would be a great way to have a compact and keep using my
Pentax lenses. Fit a
On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't think the destruction is already in progress?
Only for luddites and film addicts. ;-)
I believe SLR sales are at an all-time high. That's do of course to
the transition to digital, but it certainly doesn't spell doom.
A
This thread is absolutely hilarious!
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 02:53:02 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't think the destruction is already in progress
Is it? I've missed something.
G
On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
This thread is absolutely hilarious!
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 02:55:41 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:55 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
http://www.photokina-show.com/0466/pentax/digitalcamera
On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:20 AM, mike wilson wrote:
That's one way of looking at it but companies have different
expectations from their businesses, too. Those people have to keep
buying SLRs for the market to remain bouyant. Think how many
primary manufacturers (by which I mean whose
On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:
http://www.photokina-show.com/0466/pentax/digitalcamera/
pentaxdigitalcameras/
I'd like something like that, with a sensor related to the one in the
Sony R1. It would be a great way to have a compact and keep using my
Pentax lenses. Fit a
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 03:31:02 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:20 AM, mike wilson wrote:
That's one way of looking at it but companies have different
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 03:32:11 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:
http://www.photokina-show.com/0466/pentax/digitalcamera
On 2/21/07 10:53 AM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They are classic box shifters of the old school. If imaging sales even
flicker, they will be off on the next big thing faster than the top speed of a
Z1-p shutter.
Totally agreed.
Taking an example of Sony, they are now cutting back
On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:48 AM, mike wilson wrote:
I expect it is. I am keeping an eye out for the Sigma DP-1, on the
other hand. Supposed to be more info from PMA next month.
Has shutter delay on live-view sensors been solved?
Depends on what you mean by that. Shutter lag on recent cameras,
AM
Subject: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260086611089
It seems the Pentax M42 quality lens market is still very strong
and getting even stronger lately. I have never seen one of these sell
for over $400 until now. ( I bought my first one
industry...
mike wilson wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed AM 03:43:58 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
It might not be that small a niche if it were designed correctly it
could be build to cater
If you only use the sync for triggering, you aren't stuck with sync
speed as the sensor doesn't care if the shutter opens fully, as long as
the sensor gets exposed.
I know there's somebody floating around the net who had a breadboarded
digital back for his Nikon F2 up and running, albeit not
mike wilson wrote:
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 12:27:47 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
On 2/21/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It might
On 2/21/07 11:20 AM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Totally agreed.
Taking an example of Sony, they are now cutting back (retreating mode) on PS3
or whatever they call, as their profit margin began to dwindle.
They would have never entered into DSLR market unless they encountered a
Of
Christian
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:05 AM
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Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Actually not really, I was correct but I didnt state PENTAX manual
focusl lenses new but the original post DID state why not buy PENTAX
AF
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You don't think the destruction is already in progress?
I believe SLR sales are at an all-time high. That's do of course
SMCT on ebay : $400+
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
I wasnt discussing price, but if you already
have the lenses or want to buy high quality M42
lenses, the higher cost of the body is offset
in the system context because the lenses are
much lower cost ( or no extra cost if you
Of course not. And if you ordered one of these lenses there is probably
little chance of actually getting it. What makes me laugh most is the
A* 300/2.8 is US$600 more than the FA* version
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J. C. O'Connell wrote:
oh, OK then, I thought
I think you are seriously overestimating the
difficulty in producing/devloping a M42 DSLR, the only
signifigant difference from a K100D would be
a screw thread flange instead of a K flange
and a M42 pin actuator instead of the k lens
lever actuator. Nearly all of the remaining
hardware
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Cory Papenfuss
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:25 PM
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Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
I think you are seriously overestimating the
difficulty in producing/devloping a M42 DSLR
However, when he was asked how the sale of DSLRs are going, he was rather
frank and said [because of competing models released by Nikon and Canon,
Sony has been struggling badly. We have been planning 2nd and 3rd models
but cannot tell when we would launch these. But we would not retreat].
On 2/21/07 1:56 PM, Tom C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have, however, been through numerous corporate mergers and been on over a
dozen 40+ miilion dollar projects. Whenever I hear 'don't worry that is not
going to happen', I start worrying. It's saved my neck multiple time in the
last 25
On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:53 AM, mike wilson wrote:
... They are classic box shifters of the old school. ...
There have been so many people disparaging Sony in the still camera
market over the past five to seven years I simply ignore this kind of
stuff.
Of course, many older photographic
On 2/21/07 2:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There have been so many people disparaging Sony in the still camera
market over the past five to seven years I simply ignore this kind of
stuff.
Of course, many older photographic companies have gone out of
business, but that's
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I don't
care what axe I use as long as I get to chop the wood needed to cook
dinner.
Well you are just STUPID of COURSE it matter what kind of ax you
use! You can't be SERIOUS if you think an ax without an aperture
simulator will split hardwood logs better.
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I think you are seriously overestimating the
difficulty in producing/devloping a M42 DSLR, the only signifigant
difference from a K100D
On Feb 21, 2007, at 12:26 PM, Christian wrote:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I don't
care what axe I use as long as I get to chop the wood needed to cook
dinner.
Well you are just STUPID of COURSE it matter what kind of ax you
use! You can't be SERIOUS if you think an ax without an
Secondly, my comments in that post were made
on relative cost to develop a M42 DSLR from an existing design, vs
developing one from scratch. It would not be very complex. Its not
like this M42 pin actuator mechanism change is a swiss watch or
something, its fairly basic.
jco
On Feb 21, 2007, at 12:12 PM, K.Takeshita wrote:
On 2/21/07 2:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There have been so many people disparaging Sony in the still camera
market over the past five to seven years I simply ignore this kind of
stuff.
Of course, many older
: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:27 PM
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Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I don't
care what axe I use as long as I get to chop the wood needed to cook
dinner.
Well you are just STUPID of COURSE it matter what kind of ax you
use
===
NO, I wasnt confusing the two, I was taking
both into consideration. Its not a complex
a mechanism to DEVELOP or MFG. Far simpler
than the rest of the camera, which wouldnt
even need changing.
If it's so friggin' simple, why don't you
On 2/21/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ken,
I didn't say the topic was stupid or that everyone should ignore it.
I said that *I* ignore it. I ignore it because I've heard the same
things a bazillion times over and over again. I'm tired of hearing
about it. That's *my*
On 2/21/07 4:12 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pana is similar to Sony except they are more ribut now
they are more robust now
Non native speaker should not invent words :-).
Please help, Dave!
Ken
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From: Christian
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I don't
care what axe I use as long as I get to chop the wood needed to cook
dinner.
Well you are just STUPID of COURSE it matter what kind of ax you
use! You can't
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From: K.Takeshita
Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
On 2/21/07 4:12 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pana is similar to Sony except they are more ribut now
they are more robust now
Non native speaker should not invent words :-).
I
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From: Cory Papenfuss
Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
IIRC, there aren't many of the millions of M42 lenses out there
that have open-aperture auto aperture. Most are auto/manual stop-down
metering.
Yawn
Most of them are 55mm 1.8 lenses which
including
Pentax's via a M42 mount adapter ring.
jco
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William Robb wrote:
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From: Cory Papenfuss
Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
IIRC, there aren't many of the millions of M42 lenses out there
that have open-aperture auto aperture. Most are auto/manual stop-down
metering.
Yawn
Most of them
the the primes of that era. So I would
say this reply post below is total hogwash!
JCO
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hydraulics in lots of places because they are easier to
engineer, not necessarily because they are better for the user.
mike wilson wrote:
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/02/21 Wed PM 02:55:41 GMT
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Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay
things
you suggest entail.
jco
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It might not be that small a niche if it were designed correctly it
could be build to cater to a number of classic lenses. A simple
change of the front module and you have a Classic FD lens mount DSLR,
Classic OM
-
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:29 AM
Subject: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260086611089
It seems the Pentax M42 quality lens market
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Feb 21, 2007, at 7:48 AM, mike wilson wrote:
I expect it is. I am keeping an eye out for the Sigma DP-1, on the
other hand. Supposed to be more info from PMA next month.
Has shutter delay on live-view sensors been solved?
Depends on what you mean by that.
On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:20 PM, mike wilson wrote:
If I was buying a digital rangefinder, I would want the shutter
delay
of an M3. Or at least a Zorki
So would I. But then these are not digital rangefinders ... there
are two of those on the market today, namely the Leica M8 and Epson
On 2/21/07 5:53 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there
are two of those on the market today, namely the Leica M8 and Epson
RD-1. They give you that kind of responsiveness.
Yes, these are the ones I really want, even over DSLRs for everyday shooting
(no macro, no telephoto).
That would produce the effect similar to digital point and shoots
where there would be a lag or shutter delay... Oh well, you do get to
use the M42 lens.
On 2/22/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you only use the sync for triggering, you aren't stuck with sync
speed as the sensor
That would produce the effect similar to digital point and shoots
where there would be a lag or shutter delay. Oh well, you do get to
use the M42s...
On 2/22/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you only use the sync for triggering, you aren't stuck with sync
speed as the sensor doesn't
: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:25 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
I think you are seriously overestimating the
difficulty in producing/devloping a M42 DSLR, the only signifigant
difference from a K100D would be a screw thread flange instead
Yawn
Most of them are 55mm 1.8 lenses which don't really count towards the
millions you guys are batting around.
You are probably talking about a few hundred lenses in the hands of a
few
dozen potential users.
Godfrey has it right, some topics are too stupid to discuss. This is one
of
I'm jumping in a bit late on this, but I've got a couple of
comments about my opinion of Sony
Re Sony, they are a respectable company and noone has any doubt about it.
But since the overhaul of thier executive structures, it has been a known
fact that they have been struggling and
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
YOU are the one confused here. ALL autoaperture
M42 lenses have open-aperture auto aperture (your
term, not mine), that's
what auto aperture ISs by defintion. The lens aperture
stays open all the time during focus and composition
and only stops
, 2007 8:29 AM
Subject: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260086611089
It seems the Pentax M42 quality lens market is still very strong
and getting even stronger lately. I have never seen one of these sell
for over $400 until now. ( I
No it wouldn't cause lag or shutter delay (Any lag would be purely
mechanical before the shutter trips and would already be present in the
film body), the sync contact closes at the beginning of the exposure.
Shutter speed is irrelevant to the issue as well.
In fact this is how the original
On Feb 21, 2007, at 1:22 PM, William Robb wrote:
Godfrey has it right, some topics are too stupid to discuss.
Mark! ]'-)
G
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trying desperately to get it back in the display / TV
market.
jco
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Cory Papenfuss
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:42 PM
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Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
I'm
Papenfuss
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:54 PM
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
YOU are the one confused here. ALL autoaperture
M42 lenses have open-aperture auto aperture (your
term, not mine), that's
Trinitron was based on RCA patents for a superior BW set. RCA of
course didn't see any need to have a better set and sold them to Sony.
The rest is history.
Cory Papenfuss wrote:
I'm jumping in a bit late on this, but I've got a couple of
comments about my opinion of Sony
Re
On 2/22/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No it wouldn't cause lag or shutter delay (Any lag would be purely
mechanical before the shutter trips and would already be present in the
film body), the sync contact closes at the beginning of the exposure.
Shutter speed is irrelevant to the
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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:44 AM
Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
I think you are seriously overestimating the
difficulty in producing/devloping a M42 DSLR, the only
signifigant difference from a K100D would be
a screw thread
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From: Cory Papenfuss
Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
Holy crap! Write down this date... for once I *agree* with WR!
Welcome to the world of the kinder, gentler me.
WR
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On 2/21/07 7:41 PM, Cory Papenfuss, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm pretty sure that in their professional gear, the quality is
still there. Of course the prices are higher and the margins are fatter.
At least if you buy a professional-grade Sony product though, you get what
you pay for.
Sony
and still ticking, they are not going to
disappear anytime soon.
jco
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Anthony Farr
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:14 PM
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But They just
CRT was already standard.
Can you elusidate further?
jco
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