Z10, SFX and SF7 have that 3rd Digital pin too AFAICT
2007/10/19, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
From: Bob Blakely
I'm curious. What can the flash know of rear curtain sync timing save
that given it by the camera's shutter? If nothing, what's to set on
the flash? What difference could it
Adam, with exception to the K10D, I'm almost sure that with Pentax
rear curtain synchas always been set on the flash as well.
2007/10/15, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Oct 14, 2007, at 2:47 PM, mike wilson wrote:
For effective second curtain sync actuation, all
of reality. it is the reality of a reflection.
-Jean Luc Godard
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Adam, with exception to the K10D, I'm almost sure
. it is the reality of a reflection.
-Jean Luc Godard
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Adam, with exception to the K10D, I'm almost sure
From: Bob Blakely
I'm curious. What can the flash know of rear curtain sync timing save
that given it by the camera's shutter? If nothing, what's to set on
the flash? What difference could it possibly make?
This is just a guess, but I know the AF-500FTZ has a switch position for
rear
John Sessoms wrote:
From: Bob Blakely
I'm curious. What can the flash know of rear curtain sync timing save
that given it by the camera's shutter? If nothing, what's to set on
the flash? What difference could it possibly make?
This is just a guess, but I know the AF-500FTZ has a switch
For effective second curtain sync actuation, all that is required is
that the camera send a trigger signal to the flash at most .004
(1/250) second before the second curtain is released for its closing
run. That's the typical longest electronic flash duration of a
professional studio
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
For effective second curtain sync actuation, all that is required is
that the camera send a trigger signal to the flash at most .004
(1/250) second before the second curtain is released for its closing
run. That's the typical longest electronic flash duration of
On Oct 14, 2007, at 2:47 PM, mike wilson wrote:
For effective second curtain sync actuation, all that is required is
that the camera send a trigger signal to the flash at most .004
(1/250) second before the second curtain is released for its closing
run. That's the typical longest electronic
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Oct 14, 2007, at 2:47 PM, mike wilson wrote:
For effective second curtain sync actuation, all that is required is
that the camera send a trigger signal to the flash at most .004
(1/250) second before the second curtain is released for its closing
run. That's the
But digital flash control offers so many other things, such as second curtain
sync and, er, ...
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/10/12 Fri PM 03:40:51 GMT
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Subject: Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)
Maybe they think they've solved
I've never understood why second curtain sync should require a
dedicated flash unit. HSS I can understand ... it's a very careful
dance of strobing the flash to precisely match the shutter ... but
second curtain sync should simply trigger the flash some milliseconds
prior to the second
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I've never understood why second curtain sync should require a
dedicated flash unit. HSS I can understand ... it's a very careful
dance of strobing the flash to precisely match the shutter ... but
second curtain sync should simply trigger the flash some
I'm not sure you're right...
For effective second curtain synch, the flash needs to
fire =immediately= before the shutter closes. A
non-dedicated flash gets a signal at some point when
the flash is fully open, but does not know exactly
when the flash opened, or when it will close. For
Even more bizzare. Wonder why Pentax stepped back from that route? Why
maintain compatibility with an obsolete flash system?
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/10/11 Thu PM 02:57:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)
Err? Both
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/FARKLE
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/10/11 Thu PM 06:26:52 GMT
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Subject: Re: Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)
farkly?
Regards,
Bob
compatibility with an obsolete flash system?
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/10/11 Thu PM 02:57:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)
Err? Both the 540 and 360 TTL on all Pentax TTL bodies. It was the previous
models (like the 500
On 10/12/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even more bizzare. Wonder why Pentax stepped back from that route? Why
maintain compatibility with an obsolete flash system?
To work with the non existent K1D.??:-)
Dave
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Kewl. Gotta start using the word. I love FARKLEs!
Regards,
Bob...
Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection.
-Jean Luc Godard
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that route? Why
maintain compatibility with an obsolete flash system?
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/10/11 Thu PM 02:57:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)
Err? Both the 540 and 360 TTL on all Pentax TTL bodies
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)
Err? Both the 540 and 360 TTL on all Pentax TTL bodies. It was the previous
models (like the 500) that doesn't support Analog TTL.
-Adam
mike wilson wrote:
Interesting. The cheapest and least farkly modern
Where do you see that it works with other than P-TTL?
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/10/11 Thu AM 01:33:50 GMT
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Subject: Re: Af360 worth it?
Speaking of flash units, looks like the Pentax AF-200FG compact flash
unit is now
I picked up a used 360 recently. I knew before that it didi not have
the swivel feature, but for the little i use a flash, felt this a
better value over the more expensive 540.
In the few times(3) i have used it for fill flash, it has performed
very well.One or two test shots for + or - comp and
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_specs/product--
AF-200FG/reqID--9997134/subsection--flash
G
On Oct 11, 2007, at 3:16 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Where do you see that it works with other than P-TTL?
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Speaking of flash units, looks like the
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
... tilt and swivel vs tilt only ...
If you shoot a lot of portrait oriented compositions with flash, a
swivel is essential for bounce flash. I find that over 70% of my
photos are portrait oriented.
Godfrey
I've got a different need, as I use my flashes in
I have the 360 and it works fine, but if I were buying today I would
spend the extra money and get the 540.
I was amused to note that Pentax still sells a little $30 flash. A
cheap backup for the paranoid ;-)
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington,
... tilt and swivel vs tilt only ...
If you shoot a lot of portrait oriented compositions with flash, a
swivel is essential for bounce flash. I find that over 70% of my
photos are portrait oriented.
Godfrey
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Interesting. The cheapest and least farkly modern flash Pentax makes has the
best TTL compatibility. Just the logic we have come to expect.
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/10/11 Thu PM 01:20:12 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Af360 worth
On 10/11/07, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have the 360 and it works fine, but if I were buying today I would
spend the extra money and get the 540.
I was amused to note that Pentax still sells a little $30 flash. A
cheap backup for the paranoid ;-)
Robots use flashes to you
to expect.
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/10/11 Thu PM 01:20:12 GMT
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Subject: Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_specs/product--
AF-200FG/reqID--9997134/subsection--flash
G
On Oct 11, 2007
On Oct 11, 2007, at 6:40 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:
... I was amused to note that Pentax still sells a little $30
flash. A
cheap backup for the paranoid ;-)
Only works fully dedicated in TTL flash mode with camera bodies so
equipped, though; not P-TTL.
Godfrey
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: Af360 worth it?
I didn't realize that the 360 didn't have tilt and swivel. It's a non-
starter.
Paul
On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:28 PM, David Savage wrote:
I agree with Godfrey.
I couldn't handle a flash the didn't have swivel
I have the 360. Works fie for me. I use it on a frame that allows me to
swivel it if I need to.
I only use flash for fill.
Regards,
Bob...
Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection.
-Jean Luc Godard
: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Af360 worth it? (TTL?)
Interesting. The cheapest and least farkly modern flash Pentax makes has
the best TTL compatibility. Just the logic we have come to expect.
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Is the 360 a decent value? Does it make more sense value wise to buy the
540? It's like a hundred more dollars...
CW
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Speaking of flash units, looks like the Pentax AF-200FG compact flash
unit is now available. It's a little pricey for no HSS, dedicated
wireless control or second curtain sync, but otherwise looks like a
decent compact unit. The spec sheet suggests that it's compatible
with all P-TTL as
I have two 360's. I don't need the features of the
540, the 360 works fine for my needs.
- MCC
--- cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the 360 a decent value? Does it make more sense
value wise to buy the
540? It's like a hundred more dollars...
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I agree with Godfrey.
I couldn't handle a flash the didn't have swivel tilt (which is why I got
the 540)
Cheers,
Dave
At 09:22 AM 11/10/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
The 540 has more power, a tilt and swivel head, and probably a couple
more features. The 360 is somewhat more compact and
The 540 has more power, a tilt and swivel head, and probably a couple
more features. The 360 is somewhat more compact and lighter weight.
I wouldn't buy a flash unit without a tilt and swivel head unless it
was very compact. The 360 is not: the 540 is worth the extra money.
G
On Oct 10,
/neovenatorphoto
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From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Af360 worth it?
Is the 360 a decent value? Does it make more sense value wise to buy the
540? It's like a hundred more dollars...
CW
Buy the 540. The extra range is a huge advantage. Plus, you can use
an external battery pack. An even bigger advantage.
Paul
On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:09 PM, cbwaters wrote:
Is the 360 a decent value? Does it make more sense value wise to
buy the
540? It's like a hundred more dollars...
CW
I didn't realize that the 360 didn't have tilt and swivel. It's a non-
starter.
Paul
On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:28 PM, David Savage wrote:
I agree with Godfrey.
I couldn't handle a flash the didn't have swivel tilt (which is
why I got
the 540)
Cheers,
Dave
At 09:22 AM 11/10/2007,
I won a AF-200FG off the Pentaxian site. It works quite well with the
K10D in PTTL mode but the lack of wireless really limits it use. The
manual control has only a couple of power settings so that is of
limited use too. However it is better than the on board flash.
On 10/10/07, Godfrey
Good to hear of another Pentaxian winner!
It would be useful with the Promaster Pentax-dedicated flash cable to
get it off the camera, I bet.
Godfrey
On Oct 10, 2007, at 7:35 PM, Perry Pellechia wrote:
I won a AF-200FG off the Pentaxian site. It works quite well with the
K10D in PTTL mode
It has tilt, but no swivel.
On 10/10/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't realize that the 360 didn't have tilt and swivel. It's a non-
starter.
Paul
On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:28 PM, David Savage wrote:
I agree with Godfrey.
I couldn't handle a flash the didn't have swivel
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