Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread John Sessoms
From: Eric Weir On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:13 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: When the hell did I become Paul? You sound offended, Peter. I apologize. It's not easy for a newcomer to sort out, from the P.J.s and the P.N.s, the Peters from the Pauls. I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you're not

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread John Sessoms
face. Pure speculation, but it is *After* bombs away, not just Bombs away. That's possible, and it's certainly logical from the photo's title, but it seems a bit odd. If they'd just dropped their bombs, I would expect there to be visible flak bursts in the sky. There wouldn't be fighters, though

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread Scott Loveless
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Likely it's *After* bombs away because up until the point of release, the bombardier would have been facing front, hunched over the bomb-sight. The photo was taken from the navigator's position in the aircraft;. could

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
explain the look on the guy's face. Pure speculation, but it is *After* bombs away, not just Bombs away. That's possible, and it's certainly logical from the photo's title, but it seems a bit odd.  If they'd just dropped their bombs, I would expect there to be visible flak bursts in the sky

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread eckinator
2010/11/12 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: I thought Navigator and Bombardier were the same guy? naah, one's a soccer mom tank and the other one builds aircraft, streetcars and seadoos =P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: My grandfather was an Air Corps photographer. He stated that he flew in the Pacific theater and was primarily tasked with photographing targets, before and after. He passed away in 1977, and since then the family has had no luck

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread John Sessoms
From: Scott Loveless On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Likely it's *After* bombs away because up until the point of release, the bombardier would have been facing front, hunched over the bomb-sight. The photo was taken from the navigator's position

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob Sullivan John, I thought Navigator and Bombardier were the same guy? I know the 2 1/4 by 3 1/4 Speed Graphic was in Army use. (My dad bought an Army surplus one in Japan in 1945) But I would think a 35mm camera would be a better fit. Regards, Bob S. Navigator and Bombardier are two

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread Scott Loveless
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Scott Loveless My grandfather was an Air Corps photographer.  He stated that he flew in the Pacific theater and was primarily tasked with photographing targets, before and after.  He passed away in 1977, and

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread Scott Loveless
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I don't know. I think on the web I can get information about every mission my father flew on -- who was in the crew, what they were carrying, when the were scheduled to take off, etc., etc. That's good to know. Maybe I

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
jumps to the possibility that the plane came under attack, or had been under attack, during the final run up to the target. That might explain the look on the guy's face. Pure speculation, but it is *After* bombs away, not just Bombs away. That's possible, and it's certainly logical from

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
, but it is *After* bombs away, not just Bombs away. That's possible, and it's certainly logical from the photo's title, but it seems a bit odd. If they'd just dropped their bombs, I would expect there to be visible flak bursts in the sky. There wouldn't be fighters, though, as neither side's

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread mike wilson
to the target. That might explain the look on the guy's face. Pure speculation, but it is *After* bombs away, not just Bombs away. That's possible, and it's certainly logical from the photo's title, but it seems a bit odd. If they'd just dropped their bombs, I would expect there to be visible flak

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-12 Thread Cotty
On 11/11/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: The BBC is a ASS! Need I say any more?! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Weir
Since I first saw it I wondered how you guys would react to this: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hfhm/Roster/images/chryst_pc_2.JPG -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net --

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Miserere
On 11 November 2010 12:59, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Since I first saw it I wondered how you guys would react to this: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hfhm/Roster/images/chryst_pc_2.JPG I like it! Not much else to say. --M. --     \/\/o/\/\ --

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Miserere wrote: On 11 November 2010 12:59, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Since I first saw it I wondered how you guys would react to this: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hfhm/Roster/images/chryst_pc_2.JPG I like it! Not much else to

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:10, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Miserere wrote: On 11 November 2010 12:59, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Since I first saw it I wondered how you guys would react to this:

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Color had been around for a long time. There were lot's of Color photographs shot by all sides during WWII. http://www.ww2incolor.com/ On 11/11/2010 1:10 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Miserere wrote: On 11 November 2010 12:59, Eric Weireew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread eckinator
pretty claustrophobic and yet a pretty sight ecke 2010/11/11 Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net: Since I first saw it I wondered how you guys would react to this: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hfhm/Roster/images/chryst_pc_2.JPG

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Color had been around for a long time. There were lot's of Color photographs shot by all sides during WWII. Thanks, Paul. And Charles, too. -- Eric Weir

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread P N Stenquist
On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Color had been around for a long time. There were lot's of Color photographs shot by all sides during WWII. Thanks, Paul. And Charles, too. That's Peter. I'm Paul. No Mary. Paul

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:28 PM, eckinator wrote: pretty claustrophobic and yet a pretty sight My reaction is probably conditioned by my relationship to my father, which was not very good, and by what I've been learning about the use of heavy bombers during the war, especially about the roll of

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:42 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Color had been around for a long time. There were lot's of Color photographs shot by all sides during WWII. Thanks, Paul. And Charles,

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Joseph Heller's 'Catch 22' had a lot to do with my mental image of bombardiers. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:28 PM, eckinator wrote: pretty claustrophobic and yet a pretty sight My reaction is probably

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread P. J. Alling
When the hell did I become Paul? On 11/11/2010 3:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Color had been around for a long time. There were lot's of Color photographs shot by all sides during WWII. Thanks, Paul. And Charles, too.

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-11-11 14:24, Charles Robinson wrote: Yes, they had color film then. Not extremely common, but it was there. For reference: The Wizard of Oz was filmed in 1939. (Granted, that's a movie, not still photography, but still..) Keep your eye on the TV listings for a show called WW2

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-11-11 15:28, eckinator wrote: pretty claustrophobic and yet a pretty sight If they're going home. Not so much if they're headed toward the target. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread CheekyGeek
Cool pic. Was reading an old Smithsonian mag with an article about a guy in the SW U.S. that has $30,000 worth of microfilm in his desk with data on crash sites in the U.S. He likes to find them (hiking to remote locations, mostly). The statistic that staggered me was how many aircraft crashes

RE: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Bob W
Since I first saw it I wondered how you guys would react to this: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hfhm/Roster/images/chr yst_pc_2.JPG it's extremely interesting. What's the story behind it? Was it taken by an automatic camera? I'd be interested in why the airman is out of

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: After bombs away When the hell did I become Paul? After bombs away. On 11/11/2010 3:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:16

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Sorenson
The Military History Channel has been running a series called World War II in HD. I've just been watching the episode on the role of the Eighth Air Force, including the reflections from four men who served, one of whom was a bombardier. From 1943 through VE day over 26,000 men in the Eighth

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Weir
that the plane came under attack, or had been under attack, during the final run up to the target. That might explain the look on the guy's face. Pure speculation, but it is *After* bombs away, not just Bombs away

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:13 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: When the hell did I become Paul? You sound offended, Peter. I apologize. It's not easy for a newcomer to sort out, from the P.J.s and the P.N.s, the Peters from the Pauls.

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Here is an image of a young bombardier/navigator 25 years after your photo: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9674752 and these are some of the bombs he sent on their way: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9674737 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Weir
On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: The Military History Channel has been running a series called World War II in HD. I've just been watching the episode on the role of the Eighth Air Force, including the reflections from four men who served, one of whom was a bombardier.

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Doug Franklin
the look on the guy's face. Pure speculation, but it is *After* bombs away, not just Bombs away. That's possible, and it's certainly logical from the photo's title, but it seems a bit odd. If they'd just dropped their bombs, I would expect there to be visible flak bursts in the sky

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-11-11 21:47, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Here is an image of a young bombardier/navigator 25 years after your photo: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9674752 In an F-4? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread John Sessoms
From: Eric Weir On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Miserere wrote: On 11 November 2010 12:59, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Since I first saw it I wondered how you guys would react to this: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hfhm/Roster/images/chryst_pc_2.JPG I like

Re: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, That's an interesting fact for Veteran's Day. I know the bomber crews suffered massive losses early in the war, but more than the Marines! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: The Military History Channel has been running a series

RE: After bombs away

2010-11-11 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W Since I first saw it I wondered how you guys would react to this: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hfhm/Roster/images/chr yst_pc_2.JPG it's extremely interesting. What's the story behind it? Was it taken by an automatic camera? I'd be interested in why the airman