Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-25 Thread Steve Desjardins
Even though I doubt I'll want to spend the money on either new DSLR anytime soon, I'm just pleased to see Pentax moving forward. This especially applies to new lenses, that I might buy. I do think it's funny that they have so many lenses around normal. An d now I can think longingly about the

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-24 Thread Thibouille
the first time I'll meet you :-) Dario - Original Message - From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Another pre-PMA rumour... If you're right I owe you a beer, Dario, I promise. If you come to Belgium

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'd sure be disappointed if it had image stabilization, a feature I'd not want to pay for either with dollars or with weight and complexity. Just like with the D, wait for the cut-down versions. Unlike the D, they may be badged Samsung. Kostas

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes we are. But both will undoubtedly be significantly better than any of the current cameras. Paul On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Me too. We are assuming the big buffer and fast write speeds. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, February 23, 2006, 5:46:59 PM, you wrote: PS

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
The early announcement is coming. Just a couple of days to go... Ciao, Dario

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
Sorry, I've clicked the send button before completing editing my message. Here is the good (???) one. The supposed early announcement of the D2 (or whatever they're going to call it) is approaching. Just a couple of days to go for the PMA to begin... Ciao, Dario

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Tom C
According to the rumors, I thought it was supposed to be yesterday... Tom C. From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Another pre-PMA rumour... Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:32:48 +0100 Sorry, I've clicked the send button

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
Other rumors say at the PMA opening, so I believe any day before next Sunday can be good. Dario - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Another pre-PMA rumour... According to the rumors

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
Dario wrote: The supposed early announcement of the D2 (or whatever they're going to call it) is approaching. Just a couple of days to go for the PMA to begin... REPLY:Is this supposed to be the good one, the semi-pro thing, or is it just another of the endless permutations of the 6Mp

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Thibouille
If you're right I owe you a beer, Dario, I promise. If you come to Belgium or we mmet anywhere else... Regards, -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
Dario wrote: The supposed early announcement of the D2 (or whatever they're going to call it) is approaching. Just a couple of days to go for the PMA to begin... Is this supposed to be the good one, the semi-pro thing, or is it just another of the endless permutations of the 6Mp *istD?

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
Pål Jensen wrote: Dario wrote: The supposed early announcement of the D2 (or whatever they're going to call it) is approaching. Just a couple of days to go for the PMA to begin... Is this supposed to be the good one, the semi-pro thing, or is it just another of the endless permutations of

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Another pre-PMA rumour... If you're right I owe you a beer, Dario, I promise. If you come to Belgium or we mmet anywhere else... Regards, -- Thibouille -- *ist-D

It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_02232006_645dslr_pr.html

RE: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Didn't read this yet - it's probably the same, or close, to the announcement shown below ... http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06022307pentaxnews.asp Shel [Original Message] From: Dario Bonazza http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_02232006_645dslr_pr.html

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 23, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_02232006_645dslr_pr.html So we're back to 18 megapixels for the 645D? Bob

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
The camera seem quite large. It could in fact include in-body stabilizer. If it does this will be my first digital camera. The 645D have the green button. It seem to mimick the K-mount cameras interface. Pål

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2006-02-23, at 23:30, Pål Jensen wrote: The camera seem quite large. It could in fact include in-body stabilizer. If it does this will be my first digital camera. Yes, it's rather big considering that not that small DA 16-45/4 is attached... -- Best regards Sylwek

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Feb 2006 at 17:21, Bob Shell wrote: On Feb 23, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_02232006_645dslr_pr.html So we're back to 18 megapixels for the 645D? Yes, I don't know what the John Dickins they are on about. Rob Studdert

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There are pictures at the Steve's Digicams site. Looks good. ;-) Godfrey Patience is rewarded. On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Didn't read this yet - it's probably the same, or close, to the announcement shown below ...

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
And ISO/Quality/WB is no longer on mode dial. That's good! Dario - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:36 PM Subject: Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...) On 2006-02-23, at 23:30

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2006-02-23, at 23:40, Dario Bonazza wrote: And ISO/Quality/WB is no longer on mode dial. That's good! relief Hand grip reminds me the one from Z1P :-) I bet it will have full K- mount compatibility and AF performance never found before in Pentax cameras ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
How are you able to determine how large it is? I'd sure be disappointed if it had image stabilization, a feature I'd not want to pay for either with dollars or with weight and complexity. Both look to have a green button, but what does that say? It may imply to some that the green button will

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:44:46PM +0100, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: relief I bet it will have full K-mount compatibility . . . I'll take that bet.

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we're back to 18 megapixels for the 645D? Model names, designs, specifications and market launch schedules of these products are all tentative and subject to change without notice. Nothing we have not heard on this list,

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
Wouldn't it be nice if they'll call it Z1D? Dario - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:44 PM Subject: Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...) On 2006-02-23, at 23:40, Dario Bonazza

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
Have you noticed that apparently the 645D features an aux. AF beam? Unfortunately, the D2 has not. Dario - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:44 PM Subject: Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread John Coyle
rumour...) And ISO/Quality/WB is no longer on mode dial. That's good! Dario - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:36 PM Subject: Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...) On 2006-02-23

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread sylwiuszp
Yes I did, good idea as Mamiya ZD (AFAIR) has it too. Until it is a self timer lamp of course ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...) Date: Fri 24. Feb 2006 0:41 Size: 640 bytes

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread sylwiuszp
That would be interesting name saying a lot for Pentax users. Letter D ia undoubtely on the small plate, but I can't see other symbols. -- Best regards Sylwek -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...) Date: Fri 24

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread sylwiuszp
Don't worry, it will have dedicated buttons for setting WB an ISO - much faster method of setting this than via mode wheel or menu. -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek -Original Message- From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...) Date: Fri 24. Feb

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Feb 23, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: How are you able to determine how large it is? I'd sure be disappointed if it had image stabilization, a feature I'd not want to pay for either with dollars or with weight and complexity. Both look to have a green button, but what does

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't think it appears to be very large. The lens is obviously quite large in comparison to the camera. I would like image stabilization if it doesn't add a lot of cost. But I suspect the new Pentax DSLR won't have it. It will most likely be similar to the Nikon D200, which BH has priced at

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wouldn't it be nice if they'll call it Z1D? Not really

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Tom C
You *wouldn't want to pay for in camera image stabilzation, if it has it? Why not? It can't weigh much, certainly would not add any more complex operation than toggling it on/off (or if it was really smart, it would allow the user to set the shutter speed at which it kicked in), and would

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think it appears to be very large. The lens is obviously quite large in comparison to the camera. Based on the diametre of the lens mount it appears to be slightly larger than the MZ-S which is larger than the

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Tom C
I think they should name it William. Tom C. From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...) Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:35:24 +0100 - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
In the hand, the LX feels larger than the MZ-S. The MZ-S is taller but the shape is more ergonomic. The D/DS et al are thicker feeling. I agree with Paul ... it doesn't look much bigger than the D/DS to me. If the new body does have image stabilization in addition to the 10Mpixel sensor,

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Doug Brewer
DZ1 would be funnier. On Feb 23, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if they'll call it Z1D? Dario

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] It will most likely be similar to the Nikon D200, which BH has priced at l699. If it can equal that camera in specs, it will be a winner in my book. I'm sure it will accommodate early lenses in a manner at least as

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
I couldn't care less what the new D looks like. If it has a fast write speed, a large buffer and ten megapixels, I will fall in love. I am in know way disappointed. I'm pumped. Paul On Feb 23, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Marco Alpert
Personally, for the sort of stuff I do out in the world, the more unobtrusive it is, the better I'll like it. That's one of the reasons I picked the Ds in the first place. I have a fair collection of Nikon lenses from years past. If I was wanted presence I'd get a D200. Anti-shake (or

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Butch Black
DZ1 would be funnier. On Feb 23, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if they'll call it Z1D? Dario And think of the marketing campaign. They could use that great classic by Tommy Rowe (sic), Dizzy Butch now I have that stupid song in my head, thanks guys.

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Me too. We are assuming the big buffer and fast write speeds. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, February 23, 2006, 5:46:59 PM, you wrote: PS I couldn't care less what the new D looks like. If it has a fast write PS speed, a large buffer and ten megapixels, I will fall in love. I am in PS know

Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I say this as a newcomer to the Pentax brand, and as someone who has owned and used almost all the major brands of cameras and lenses over a 40 year time period: They will produce a proper camera which will reflect well on the current state of the art of photography. A photographer's

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=83611forum_id=80 This year's Pentax + Samsung booth on PMA fair is about as big as Canon's one so who knows? ;-) This is pretty much what I and a couple of others said to expect as a PMA announcement

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-22 Thread Thibouille
Maybe it will just be announced now, just like the 645 Digital has been annonced with couple basic specs but would be ready later? Maybe lenses? 2006/2/22, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-22 Thread Jack Davis
Mark, I'm pleased to read that there seems to be a general feeling that the rumor is true. It may be due to an expected significant pixel count jump as a reward for our long wait. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-22 Thread Scott Loveless
http://www.pmai.org/xpma2006/exhibitors/pdf/floor_plan.pdf Pentax/Samsun, second booth on the left from the entrance. Not quite as big as Canon's or Fuji's, but still sizeable compared to most. On 2/21/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=83611forum_id=80 This year's Pentax + Samsung booth on PMA fair is about as big as Canon's one so who knows? ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

RE: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The size of the booth seems unimportant compared to this message brought up by your link: My local dealer told me today that Pentax is releasing the new 11mp camera tomorrow in USA. He was not sure if it was going to be badged Samsung or Pentax though. It is not the medium format camera, that

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Shel Belinkoff wrote on 21.02.06 19:16: The size of the booth seems unimportant compared to this message brought up by your link: My local dealer told me today that Pentax is releasing the new 11mp camera tomorrow in USA. He was not sure if it was going to be badged Samsung or Pentax

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! The size of the booth seems unimportant compared to this message brought up by your link: My local dealer told me today that Pentax is releasing the new 11mp camera tomorrow in USA. He was not sure if it was going to be badged Samsung or Pentax though. It is not the medium format

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Boris Liberman wrote on 21.02.06 19:30: To add to the rumour mill... The Russian Penta-Club maintains that Pentax will reveal 3 DSLR cameras on February 24 or 26... Boris, that's just too good to be true ;-) Any rumours on lenses??? -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! To add to the rumour mill... The Russian Penta-Club maintains that Pentax will reveal 3 DSLR cameras on February 24 or 26... Boris, that's just too good to be true ;-) Any rumours on lenses??? I ain't no telling ;-). Boris

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/21/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. Is it D2 that we've been waiting for? Anyway we have to wait until tomorrow ;-) Durn. I can't wait that long! -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Jack Davis
God, I hope I'm real! Jack --- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=83611forum_id=80 This year's Pentax + Samsung booth on PMA fair is about as big as Canon's one so who knows? ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Tom C
-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Another pre-PMA rumour... Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:16:40 -0800 (PST) God, I hope I'm real! Jack --- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=83611forum_id=80 This year's

Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-21 Thread Jack Davis
means though it may be, that if you were not real, I would not be responding to an e-mail message that you sent. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Another pre-PMA rumour... Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14