From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com
On 19/07/2013 2:01 PM, Tom C wrote:
I also agree that the legacy lens advantage is pretty much non-existent.
It's interesting that you should say that, and kind of ironic in a way.
The reason why legacy lenses are not an advantage is because they are
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit
headshot of somebody and examine their eyebrows. You should clearly
see
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test
I thought that you made your point with the last post, but when I click
on the new links I get a Forbidden error page, not even the 403 error
number...
On 7/21/2013 4:18 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote:
I thought that you made your point with the last post, but when I
click on the new links I get a Forbidden error page, not even the
403 error number...
Sorry about that, fixed now.
I thought I made my point, too, but Bruce didn't, so I figured I might
Price is not the deciding factor in my continuing to buy Pentax. It is my
history with the brand, my lens cabinet(s), my familiarity (for the most part)
with the operation and handling of the various bodies and lenses.
If I want (need?) a piece of gear and I can afford it at the time, I get
On 19/07/2013 2:01 PM, Tom C wrote:
I also agree that the legacy lens advantage is pretty much non-existent.
It's interesting that you should say that, and kind of ironic in a way.
The reason why legacy lenses are not an advantage is because they are
less convenient to use (manual focus,
Which is the argument for the thing that shall not be mentioned. It
would make using K and M glass about as easy to use as A glass is now.
Which is to say, no more difficult that it was to use when those lenses
were first manufactured. I remember when I bought my MX, my second or
third
I agree. I think an uncrippled mount would be the best thing in the
world for a full frame camera. Its the only thing I asked for really.
Even nikon supports at least AI lenses and you can convert everything
previous to AI. I realize that only their pro oriented cameras are
uncrippled, but still
Notice the trend of so many to say what they have is 'good enough'?
Pentax loses. Notice the trend of so many to wait a year or more until
there's massive price cuts on the newest model Pentax camera? Pentax
loses. Notice the trend of so many to purchase used gear as opposed to
new? Pentax
Viewing the full size crop at 72 DPI on my Ancient Hitachi SuperScan
Elite 751 is the reason I don't think I need more more megapixels or a
bigger sensor at this time, though I do need a good tripod.
On 7/16/2013 4:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch
Plus, the brick wall feels so good once you stop beating your head
against it.
On 7/16/2013 5:06 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
I think a brick wall would be a better subject. Objections? The
subject shouldn't matter as long as it is sharp. A static object makes
for the best test IMO.
On Tue, Jul 16,
Sure there's a perfect camera. It's just no one is manufacturing it yet.
On 7/16/2013 7:04 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:26:57PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
Well, no, Tom, the situations aren't at all parallel.
I'm very, very happy to be using MRIs and PET/CTs. I'm also very
to be a FF
Ricoh DSLR.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - From: John johnsess...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Any new flagship camera rumors?
Rumor has it that *SOMEDAY* there's going to be a FF Pentax DSLR.
On 7/16/2013 12:11 PM, John Celio
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
Well, no, Tom, the situations aren't at all parallel. ?
I'm very, very happy to be using MRIs and PET/CTs. ?I'm also very happy to be
using a K-5 instead of an istD or Super Program.
The technology has its place, though. ?I don't get an MRI on every
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:40:26AM -0600, Tom C wrote:
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
Pentax is in an unenviable spot, being widely perceived as a bargain
brand. That's of course good for those that either can't or don't wish
to spend more money. It's not so good for Pentax (Ricoh).
The problem is that there is a different perfect camera for every
photographer.
jm
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Sure there's a perfect camera. It's just no one is manufacturing it yet.
On 7/16/2013 7:04 PM, Larry Colen wrote
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
I don't think the problem is quite as bad you you think. Yes, people
who know that Pentax exists, or even still exists, and who pay attention,
recognize it as a bargain brand. However, I think that half of the 87
people that even know that Pentax cameras
On 7/17/2013 11:54 AM, Tom C wrote:
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
I don't think the problem is quite as bad you you think. Yes, people
who know that Pentax exists, or even still exists, and who pay attention,
recognize it as a bargain brand. However, I think that half of the 87
people
On 7/17/2013 12:54 PM, Tom C wrote:
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
I don't think the problem is quite as bad you you think. Yes, people
who know that Pentax exists, or even still exists, and who pay attention,
recognize it as a bargain brand. However, I think that half of the 87
people
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
Notice the trend of so many to say what they have is 'good enough'?
Pentax loses. Notice the trend of so many to wait a year or more until
there's massive price cuts on the newest model Pentax camera? Pentax
loses. Notice the trend of so many to purchase
The lack of used lenses, especially wide angle primes could point to
there being a robust market for Pentax DSLRs. There was a time not too
long ago, when there were always a number of A and FA 20mm lenses moving
through KEH, now not so much. It's hard to find any 24mm and wider A
or later
Indeed. M42 takumars are being bought by the score too. That's been my
real problem with k-mount: the lack of affordable used wide angle
primes which are indeed in extremely short supply driving prices
through the roof. Everyone from nex owners to m4/3 shooters are buying
pentax glass because the
Anyone heard any recent rumors about a new flagship Pentax camera? It
bothers me that all of their current models have 16MP sensors. I
really want to upgrade my K-5 (the blob on the sensor that refuses to
go away is one reason for this), but I'm not going to spend money for
the same resolution.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:11 AM, John Celio
neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone heard any recent rumors about a new flagship Pentax camera?
Maybe. That's all I'm going to say.
Bong
(from the country where they assemble it...)
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Subject: Any new flagship camera rumors?
Anyone heard any recent rumors about a new flagship Pentax camera? It
bothers me that all of their current models have 16MP sensors. I
really want to upgrade my K-5 (the blob on the sensor that refuses to
go away is one reason
;-)
-Messaggio originale-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:18 PM
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:11 AM, John Celio
neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone heard any recent rumors about a new
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second
most important reason to upgrade from the K-5 (the first one being
of course the huge improvement in AF accuracy in odd light). 16MP is
already more than I need and I'm happy to delay
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
;-)
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:11 AM, John Celio
neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone heard
: Aahz Maruch
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:57 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Any new flagship camera rumors?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second
most important reason to upgrade from the K-5 (the first one
the K-5.
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: Aahz Maruch
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:57 PM
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second
most
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
-Messaggio originale- From: Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second
most important reason to upgrade from the K-5 (the first one being
of course the huge
I probably won't buy another Pentax body (I have the K-7 and H-5) until/unless
they come out with a FF body. I have so many lenses that are designed for full
frame (31, 43, etc.), I would really like to be able to take full advantage of
their capabilities. I use the Pentax primarily for
Subject: Re: Any new flagship camera rumors?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
-Messaggio originale- From: Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second
most important reason to upgrade from the K-5
flagship camera rumors?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
-Messaggio originale- From: Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second
most important reason to upgrade from the K-5 (the first one being
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Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:11 PM
Subject: Any new flagship camera rumors?
Anyone heard any recent rumors about a new flagship Pentax camera? It
bothers me that all of their current models have 16MP sensors. I
really want to upgrade my K-5 (the blob
On 16/7/13, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed:
Pentax FF Announcement 2013
Pentax FF Shipping 2013
Pentax FF Announcement 2014
Pentax FF Shipping 2014
Pentax FF Never
Pentax FF learned firsthand from a trusted source.
Pentax FF learned secondhand from a trusted source
Pentax FF learned from
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
I'm very, very happy with the K-5.
I don't want more resolution, because I'm getting lovely large prints, and I
don't want to replace my 2 year old computer or wait longer for images to be
processed.
I don't want full frame because I value the
Rumor has it that *SOMEDAY* there's going to be a FF Pentax DSLR.
On 7/16/2013 12:11 PM, John Celio wrote:
Anyone heard any recent rumors about a new flagship Pentax camera? It
bothers me that all of their current models have 16MP sensors. I
really want to upgrade my K-5 (the blob on the sensor
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 07:14:26PM +0100, Steve Cottrell wrote:
On 16/7/13, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed:
Pentax FF Announcement 2013
Pentax FF Shipping 2013
Pentax FF Announcement 2014
Pentax FF Shipping 2014
Pentax FF Never
Pentax FF learned firsthand from a trusted source.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, John wrote:
Rumor has it that *SOMEDAY* there's going to be a FF Pentax DSLR.
No, no, no, someday there will be a rumor that there's going to be a FF
Pentax DSLR.
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
-Messaggio originale- From: Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second
most
- From: Aahz Maruch
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:17 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Any new flagship camera rumors?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
-Messaggio originale- From: Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Funny, as I thought
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit
headshot of somebody and examine their eyebrows. You should clearly
see the individual hairs. Any time I handhold to get such a shot the
eyebrows are invariably a gaussian smear.
How difficult would it be to make a Sensor with removable Anti Aliasing Filter?
Definitely a preferred choice along with a 24 MP APS-C Sensor.
This would greatly help in photo situations where moire is not a
concern, but picture sharpness is important say for macro shots.
One could then use some
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit
headshot of somebody and examine their eyebrows. You should clearly
see the individual hairs. Any time I handhold
Apparently _very_ difficult. The Bayer filter is part of a sensor
sandwich. It's not like something that could be flipped down into
place.
Word is it's also a non-issue up around 24 megapixels. I don't believe
anyone's seen moire in the Nikon body and they don't offer AA as an
option.
On Tue,
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Word is it's also a non-issue up around 24 megapixels. I don't believe
anyone's seen moire in the Nikon body and they don't offer AA as an
option.
I think it is a lot rarer to run into than people's initial
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Word is it's also a non-issue up around 24 megapixels. I don't believe
anyone's seen moire in the Nikon body and they don't offer AA as an
From the pictures I have seen its a non issue on the D7100. I'm sure
it can be induced though. It's the nature of the bayer pattern. The
Foveon avoids it because there is no interpolation. The Trans-X avoids
it because IMHO it is sacrificing fine detail due to the way the
sensor is laid out and
On 7/16/2013 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit
headshot of somebody and examine their eyebrows. You should clearly
see the individual hairs. Any time I handhold to get such a shot the
Also, I believe that a 16mp aps-c sensor extrapolates to a 36mp full
frame sensor. Correct me if I am wrong, but don't the d800 and k-5
have similar pixel pitch? Yep. 4.8. So clearly getting to 3.9 (d7100)
is much better for moire. That also provides a full frame sensor with
over 50mp of
I think a brick wall would be a better subject. Objections? The
subject shouldn't matter as long as it is sharp. A static object makes
for the best test IMO.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:03 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 7/16/2013 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce
Depends on the person. :P
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:03 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 7/16/2013 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit
headshot of somebody and examine their
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:45:59PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Word is it's also a non-issue up around 24 megapixels. I don't believe
anyone's seen moire in the Nikon body and they don't offer AA as an
option.
I
available. I don't need a 24MP FF camera to do
the kind of photography I do.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
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Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Any new flagship camera
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:26:57PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
Well, no, Tom, the situations aren't at all parallel.
I'm very, very happy to be using MRIs and PET/CTs. I'm also very happy to be
using a K-5 instead of an istD or Super Program.
The technology has its place, though. I don't
It's so hard that Nikon didn't even bother, they added a second AA
filter to counteract the effect.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
How difficult would it be to make a Sensor with removable Anti Aliasing
Filter?
Definitely a preferred choice along with a
: Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Any new flagship camera rumors?
I don't know about you, but over 1/200 I can rarely see much
difference in hand held vs tripod and I am certainly capable of sharp
pictures down to even 1/8s hand held with wide angle lenses. I have a
few 1/4s pictures
: Any new flagship camera rumors?
Rumor has it that *SOMEDAY* there's going to be a FF Pentax DSLR.
On 7/16/2013 12:11 PM, John Celio wrote:
Anyone heard any recent rumors about a new flagship Pentax camera? It
bothers me that all of their current models have 16MP sensors. I
really want to upgrade
to hire native guides to do the tracking for me.
stan
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - From: Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Any new flagship camera rumors?
I don't know about you, but over 1/200 I can rarely see much
On 7/16/2013 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
Let's make sure we're testing the same thing. What percent of frame
should the person's head be? Any other requirements?
Person? If you really want a challenge go for a gnat's eyebrows -
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Mark C wrote:
If you really want a challenge go for a gnat's eyebrows -
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