William Robb wrote:
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From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
There is no doubt the guy deserves it. But that is the
problem with censorship, it starts with those who deserve it
and expands to those who the censors
Waller
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On 12/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile
: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
No need to add one, we've got plenty already.
:-)
Cheers,
Dave
On Jan 13, 2008 11:12 AM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
May I add, a *dysfunctional* family at a holiday gathering
Tim :-)
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From: Doug Brewer
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
I could name a couple dozen examples, but let's look at, say, Bill
Robb. I know I can point to him because he's a big boy and can take
it. He also understands
Kill Bill
evil grin
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
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From: Doug Brewer
On Jan 14, 2008 12:09 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Doug Brewer
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
It is because of his positive record that Good Bill is afforded PDML
indulgence when he turns into Evil
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On 12/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile.
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On 1/14/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 14, 2008 12:09 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Doug Brewer
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
It is because of his positive record that Good Bill
: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
It is because of his positive record that Good Bill is afforded PDML
indulgence when he turns into Evil Bill. Same with most everyone who
posts at least semi-regularly to the list, myself included.
Only a bit of an asshole
/272u2f
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From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
William Robb wrote:
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From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
There is no doubt
On 14/01/08, Evil Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
Only a bit of an asshole?
Obviously I need to work harder at this.
EB
LOL
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On 12/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile.
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On 12/01/08, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
Its probably the free beer.
That's tomorrow.
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Behalf Of Bran Everseeking
Sent: 13 January 2008 01:21
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a
theatre
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:34:20 +
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what would you do about the people who have
On Jan 13, 2008 7:02 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The correct response is either to ignore him, or to laugh at him. But
to treat that post with the po-faced seriousness people have done is
frankly as pathetic as the post itself.
Correct, but that post put into the context of his previous
On 13/01/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Everybody has jumped on Polyhead for supposedly threatening violence
(how's he going to do it from the other end of the internet) and in
response they are all threatening violence against him. You want to
ban one person for this but not the others.
On Jan 13, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 12/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile.
Futility is disheartening.
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Don't lose heart. They might want to cut it out and they'll want to
avoid a lengthy search.
Paul Stenquist wrote:
On Jan 13, 2008, at 4:28 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 12/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile.
-faced seriousness people have done is
frankly as pathetic as the post itself.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bran Everseeking
Sent: 13 January 2008 01:21
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:02:23 +
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The correct response is either to ignore him, or to laugh at him. But
to treat that post with the po-faced seriousness people have done is
frankly as pathetic as the post itself.
That would be what you consider correct but Doug
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Behalf Of Bran Everseeking
Sent: 13 January 2008 01:21
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a
theatre
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:34:20 +
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what would you do about the people who have since
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The correct response is either to ignore him, or to laugh at him.
I thought I was doing the latter. Parody night school for me.
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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
No need to add one, we've got plenty already
P. J. Alling wrote:
Don't lose heart. They might want to cut it out and they'll want to
avoid a lengthy search.
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile.
Futility is disheartening.
I've lost my faith in nihilism.
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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
I think you're just
Doug Franklin wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
Don't lose heart. They might want to cut it out and they'll want to
avoid a lengthy search.
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile.
Futility is disheartening.
I've lost my faith in nihilism.
Whatever.
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On Jan 13, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Bob W wrote:
it'll settle out.
of course it will, these things always do, but that doesn't really
answer the question, does it?
Everybody has jumped on Polyhead for supposedly threatening violence
(how's he going to do it from the other end of the internet)
I've lost my faith in nihilism.
Whatever.
That little dialogue certainly deserves some attention from Mark!
Bob
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On Jan 13, 2008 11:17 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 13, 2008, at 5:02 AM, Bob W wrote:
it'll settle out.
of course it will, these things always do, but that doesn't really
answer the question, does it?
Everybody has jumped on Polyhead for supposedly
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile.
Futility is hopeless.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On 12/01/08, William Robb
: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On 12/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Enlightenment is irrelevant.
Irrelevance is futile.
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Doug,
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I have my
limits. Should PDML have a charter against really offensive posts? I
read a post from a PDMLer who has probably been blocked by most members.
But I have been lazy and have been letting them through.
In response to a
I was checking my bit bucket today and saw that message. Truley the
product of a twisted individual.
Gotta set up a filter Derby.
Cheers,
Dave
On Jan 12, 2008 8:14 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug,
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I have my
limits.
Yeah, I went to the filter folder and saw it as well. He's a child,
trying to get a reaction. Misbehaving children are best ignored.
Paul
On Jan 12, 2008, at 6:56 AM, David Savage wrote:
I was checking my bit bucket today and saw that message. Truley the
product of a twisted individual.
Yes, if it's the moron I suspect it is, I'm not surprised.
His posts go straight to the deleted folder, unread.
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I was
David Savage wrote:
I was checking my bit bucket today and saw that message. Truley the
product of a twisted individual.
Gotta set up a filter Derby.
Cheers,
Dave
Thanks Dave,
You are right. I was going to have a pleasant night replying to some
interesting photos, including yours.
Yes, I've been quite happy snce setting up a filter to remove all his
posts. Regards, Bob S.
On Jan 12, 2008 6:08 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, if it's the moron I suspect it is, I'm not surprised.
His posts go straight to the deleted folder, unread.
Cheers
Brian
Derby Chang wrote:
Doug,
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I have my
limits. Should PDML have a charter against really offensive posts? I
read a post from a PDMLer who has probably been blocked by most members.
But I have been lazy and have been letting them
On Jan 12, 2008 9:51 AM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Yeah, I went to the filter folder and saw it as well. He's a child,
trying to get a reaction. Misbehaving children are best ignored.
Paul
I agree with Paul. I hadn't seen his post until this morning.
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Yeah, I went to the filter folder and saw it as well. He's a child,
trying to get a reaction. Misbehaving children are best ignored.
Paul
I agree with Paul. I hadn't seen his post until this morning. Rarely
do I dig into the bucket to see if he's sent any drivel to
I will hold my tongue as to my thoughts on the sicko in question. I
guess it is time I filtered as well.
Walt
On 1/12/08, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug,
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I have my
limits. Should PDML have a charter against really
Anything to do with a misanthrope like that is automatically,
permanently deleted from my email, but his cretinous and vulgar crap
is recorded along everyone else's in the PDML Archives. Do you really
want such senselessly stupid spew associated with your name in the
archives?
This is one
On Jan 12, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
Doug,
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I
have my
limits. Should PDML have a charter against really offensive posts? I
read a post from a PDMLer who has probably been blocked by most
members.
But I have been
10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On Jan 12, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
Doug,
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I
have my
limits. Should PDML have a charter against really offensive posts? I
read a post
In a message dated 1/12/2008 8:21:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do yourself a favor and keep the profanities to yourself. You won't
come up with anything original, and you certainly won't impress
anyone, least of all me.
Doug
List God
===
Thanks, Doug.
On 12/01/08, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I have my
limits. Should PDML have a charter against really offensive posts? I
read a post from a PDMLer who has probably been blocked by most members.
But I have been lazy and
There is no doubt the guy deserves it. But that is the
problem with censorship, it starts with those who deserve it
and expands to those who the censors dislike, and soon
becomes censorship of ideas rather than behavior.
I find it somewhat amusing that many of those complaining
loudly say
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, I went to the filter folder and saw it as well. He's a child,
trying to get a reaction. Misbehaving children are best ignored.
Not strictly true but we don't have the luxury of the wire attached to
testicles or the cattle prod sanctions.
Before you play the censorship card, please find out what it means. I
am not censoring Ben. He is free to start his own email list and spew
whatever crap he wants. He can not, however, expect me to provide the
outlet for his idiocy.
On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:42 PM, graywolf wrote:
There is
A very poor typing job on my part.
That would be, A very logical and succinct response. Excellent.
It's been a long day. Time to go home.
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A very logical and succinct reponse. Excellent.
Paul
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Maybe we should encourage Blakely to come as well, and bring some of his
hardware...
Scott Loveless wrote:
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Yeah, I went to the filter folder and saw it as well. He's a child,
trying to get a reaction. Misbehaving children are best ignored.
Paul
I agree with
Doug Brewer wrote:
On Jan 12, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
Doug,
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I
have my
limits. Should PDML have a charter against really offensive posts? I
read a post from a PDMLer who has probably been blocked by most
A very logical and succinct reponse. Excellent.
Paul
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From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Before you play the censorship card, please find out what it means. I
am not censoring Ben. He is free to start his own email list and spew
In a message dated 1/12/2008 11:49:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I find it somewhat amusing that many of those complaining
loudly say they have him filtered out, but of course they do
not have the self-discipline to not read the filtered out
mail. So you, Doug,
You're being generous. My solution would be a bit more, hum, shall we
say final. But then I figure if someone talks like a sociopath they
should be treated as one, and I for one have better things to do with my
life than watch them in a cell to make sure they don't escape.
mike wilson wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:19:21 -0500
Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Before you play the censorship card, please find out what it means.
I am not censoring Ben. He is free to start his own email list and
spew whatever crap he wants. He can not, however, expect me to
provide the outlet for
On 12/01/08, Bran Everseeking, discombobulated, unleashed:
Once upon a time in the dark days before the net I was a SysOp and
CoSysOp on several BBS's. I reminded folks that if they could not
behave properly as guests in my dining room they should expect to be
tossed out.
if it were my space
what would you do about the people who have since threatened him with
violence?
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Once upon a time in the dark days before the net I was a SysOp and
CoSysOp on several BBS's. I reminded folks that if they could not
behave properly as guests in my dining room they should expect to be
Do I hear the sounds of dueling banjos in the picnic area?
I'll bet we could arrange a 'Deliverance' experience...
Regards, Bob S.
Scott Loveless wrote:
Personally, I think he should be encouraged to come to GFM.
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:09:00 +
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Once upon a time in the dark days before the net I was a SysOp and
CoSysOp on several BBS's. I reminded folks that if they could not
behave properly as guests in my dining room they should expect to be
tossed out.
if it
Some of that has been a bit juvenile, hasn't it? Doug made things right. That
should be the end of it.
Paul
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From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what would you do about the people who have since threatened him with
violence?
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12/01/08, Bran Everseeking, discombobulated, unleashed:
Once upon a time in the dark days before the net I was a SysOp and
CoSysOp on several BBS's. I reminded folks that if they could not
behave
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From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
There is no doubt the guy deserves it. But that is the
problem with censorship, it starts with those who deserve it
and expands to those who the censors dislike, and soon
: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On Jan 12, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
Doug,
I'm sorry, but even for a live and let live kind of guy I am, I
have my
limits. Should PDML have a charter against really offensive posts? I
read a post from a PDMLer who has probably been
Well said, William. Thanks
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
William Robb
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:37 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
- Original
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:34:20 +
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what would you do about the people who have since threatened him with
violence?
this group is not moderated and is rather like a large family at a
holiday gathering... I am the one most folks are not exactly sure why I
showed up
, 2008 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:34:20 +
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what would you do about the people who have since threatened him with
violence?
this group is not moderated and is rather like a large family
May I add, a *dysfunctional* family at a holiday gathering
Tim :-)
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From: Bran Everseeking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:34:20
No need to add one, we've got plenty already.
:-)
Cheers,
Dave
On Jan 13, 2008 11:12 AM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
May I add, a *dysfunctional* family at a holiday gathering
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- Original Message -
From: Tim Øsleby
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
I have no idea why I originally showed up either. Have been hanging around
for a couple of years now.
I still have no idea why I'm here.
Can somebody please tell me
I will accept that, Doug.
Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse)
Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/
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Doug Brewer wrote:
He can not, however, expect me to provide the
outlet for his
Maybe a little waterboarding ?
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, I went to the filter folder
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:12:51 +0100
Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
May I add, a *dysfunctional* family at a holiday gathering
Yes of course you may. from where I sit family and functional are
mutually exclusive.
Bran
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From: Bran Everseeking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:34:20 +
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what would you do about the people
I still have no idea why I'm here.
Can somebody please tell me :-)
Its probably the free beer.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Attn: list-boss: Free speech vs yelling fire in a theatre
I have no idea
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