Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-20 Thread wendy beard
--- Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I meant that the harsh conditions would be primarily jarring and shaking. Another question that was posed in my original email was how would you transport the equipment? I'll have a Camelbak, so no backpacks... I *could* add a cargo rack to the

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-20 Thread Frantisek
I have (ab)used my LX quite a lot, and it held well against everything I threw at it (or vice versa g). The moisture and dust resistance is great. I have had spilled beer and wine over it //usually at concerts, when you photograph in the front row and rock fans start throwing beer at the band,

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread mike wilson
Rob Studdert wrote: On 18 Jul 2005 at 17:35, Jon M wrote: Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? Just how tough IS pentax equipment? A Pentax LX and a set of fast A series

RE: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Markus Maurer
equipment for harsh conditions? The old S1 lenses are general very well built. If the 24-48mm is anything like the 35-85mm you couldn't do much better. Jon M wrote: The old Series 1 lenses are pretty tough? I have a 24-48/3.8 - I could probably get by with just that and maybe a telephoto lens

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Jul 2005 at 7:17, mike wilson wrote: I would use the M series lenses. Smaller, lighter and without uneccessary fripperies. 8-) The fripperies are no less than a virtual necessity for use on digital bodies so I'm all M'ed out these days. In any case most of my favoured lenses either

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread mike wilson
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/19 Tue AM 08:16:44 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions? On 19 Jul 2005 at 7:17, mike wilson wrote: I would use the M series lenses. Smaller, lighter and without uneccessary fripperies

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/05, Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The old Series 1 lenses are pretty tough? I have a 24-48/3.8 - I could probably get by with just that and maybe a telephoto lens. I have that same lens, and it's been to the shop several times for aperture

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Jul 2005 at 8:29, mike wilson wrote: Is digital the best option for harsh conditions? What else is there? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions? On 19 Jul 2005 at 8:29, mike wilson wrote: Is digital the best option for harsh conditions? What else is there? If you look hard enough, film is still available. I realize it's

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread mike wilson
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/19 Tue PM 12:39:50 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions? On 19 Jul 2005 at 8:29, mike wilson wrote: Is digital the best option for harsh conditions? What else is there? Depends

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Jul 2005 at 6:53, William Robb wrote: If you look hard enough, film is still available. I realize it's getting to be scarce, but it's still out there. What, like Kodak 800 Max? Just joshing of course, seriously though the price of film and processing is pretty steep in my locale. It's

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Oh, c'mon Rob ... speaking as a lone voice crying in the wilderness of the digital landscape (my apologies to Edward Abbey), I'd not consider taking a DSLR (certainly not as the only choice) into some of the places and on some of the journeys I've been. But then the question was about harsh

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I have a small bag that strapped on to the handlebars and sometimes carried a camera in it. I padded the inside of the bag and fiddled a bit with the attachments to make it a little more secure. Shel [Original Message] From: Jon M Another question that was posed in my original email was

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Jul 2005 at 6:14, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Oh, c'mon Rob ... speaking as a lone voice crying in the wilderness of the digital landscape (my apologies to Edward Abbey), I'd not consider taking a DSLR (certainly not as the only choice) into some of the places and on some of the journeys

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Lens features would perhaps be autofocus, transmission of MTF data and other information, power zooms, image stabilization, and maybe a few other such things (leather grip, a sound card, coffee maker adapter?) Shel [Original Message] From: Rob Studdert BTW, I read a lens review some time

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The harsh conditions are the conditions of riding an on/off road bicycle ... that's not particularly harsh, there's nothing any more fragile about a DSLR that wouldn't also affect a film SLR in those conditions. Both would survive just fine if packed properly for the endeavor. If I carry

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another question that was posed in my original email was how would you transport the equipment? I'll have a Camelbak, so no backpacks... I *could* add a cargo rack to the bike, but I don't know how well that would hold up, and I'm not too sure I'd even want the camera fastened to the bike. Is

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread dagt
fra: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 19 Jul 2005 at 7:17, mike wilson wrote: I would use the M series lenses. Smaller, lighter and without uneccessary fripperies. 8-) The fripperies are no less than a virtual necessity for use on

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Eric Maquiling
On 07/19 06:53, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Back when I rode bicycles a lot (early 1980s, before my hip gave out), I used to carry a Nikon F2 with two lenses in the equivalent of Sweet! We were in the same era I guess. I was racing as a junior with Mike McCarthy and George Hincape back east.

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Tom Reese
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Oh, c'mon Rob ... speaking as a lone voice crying in the wilderness of the digital landscape (my apologies to Edward Abbey), I'd not consider taking a DSLR (certainly not as the only choice) into some of the places and on some of the journeys I've been. But then the

Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread mike wilson
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/19 Tue PM 01:14:36 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions? Oh, c'mon Rob ... speaking as a lone voice crying in the wilderness of the digital landscape (my apologies to Edward Abbey), I'd

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 19, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Eric Maquiling wrote: On 07/19 06:53, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Back when I rode bicycles a lot (early 1980s, before my hip gave out), I used to carry a Nikon F2 with two lenses in the equivalent of Sweet! We were in the same era I guess. I was racing as a

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 19, 2005, at 7:42 AM, Tom Reese wrote: My circumstances are a little different because I travel by motorcycle instead of bicycle but there are some similarities. My biggest concern is volume rather than weight but they're pretty much the same thing. My strategy is to take two cheap

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/7/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: I would use the M series lenses. Smaller, lighter and without uneccessary fripperies. 8-) I had some unnecessary fripperies once, but they were only small so I chucked them back in. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Cotty
I go out on my bike with a bumbag containing a 1D and EF 20mm 1.8 and never had a problem. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Andre Langevin
Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? -Jon Myers. I'd go for an MX body (or KX) with M-lenses (small, light but all-metal) in a small padded fanny bag. 1 lens: 40/2.8 or 35/2.8 2

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Jon M
I've seen the Pelican boxes online, and they sure look nice... Lowepro even makes an insert for some of them. The bike in question is indeed full suspension, but that doesn't mean a smooth ride. Imagine riding down a stairway... yeah, I do that. Do y'all think a hardcase with one of those

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 19, 2005, at 9:27 AM, Jon M wrote: I've seen the Pelican boxes online, and they sure look nice... Lowepro even makes an insert for some of them. The bike in question is indeed full suspension, but that doesn't mean a smooth ride. Imagine riding down a stairway... yeah, I do that. Do

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Bob Blakely
Pentax Equipment is reasonably tough, but no camera or lens is made to hit rock at high velocity. I'd take one of the smallest cameras I have, either an LX, MX or ME Super - probably the LA as I have five of them and they are the most weather proof camera there is outside of underwater gear. As

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jon, Having done some somewhat serious mountain biking a few years ago, I would seriously consider carrying a backpack type of arrangement. You can get camel style bladder/pack combo so you wouldn't lose your hydration system. You have to realize how much extra shock your legs/arms and

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Lens features would perhaps be autofocus, transmission of MTF data and other information, power zooms, image stabilization, and maybe a few other such things (leather grip, a sound card, coffee maker adapter?) Oops -- saw this one right after replying to your other post

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Shel Belinkoff wrote: (among other things) BTW, I read a lens review some time ago in which five or six lenses were compared, and one was given poor marks for not having a full range of features. For the longest time I couldn't figure out what features a lens needs, or could have, beyond the

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 19, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Having done some somewhat serious mountain biking a few years ago, I would seriously consider carrying a backpack type of arrangement. You can get camel style bladder/pack combo so you wouldn't lose your hydration system. You have to realize

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-19 Thread Bob Blakely
It also raises your center of gravity. Never a good thing. Regards, Bob... - The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing. -

Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread Jon M
Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? Just how tough IS pentax equipment? -Jon Myers. Start your day with

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jul 2005 at 17:35, Jon M wrote: Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? Just how tough IS pentax equipment? A Pentax LX and a set of fast A series primes are as tough as any

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? Just how tough IS pentax equipment? From a couple of months ago: Friend of my friend has accidentally left his

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jon M Subject: Best equipment for harsh conditions? Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? Just how tough IS pentax equipment? The LX

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread Jon M
The old Series 1 lenses are pretty tough? I have a 24-48/3.8 - I could probably get by with just that and maybe a telephoto lens. --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Rob Studdert wrote: On 18 Jul 2005 at 17:35, Jon M wrote: Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? Just how tough IS pentax equipment? A Pentax LX and a set of fast A

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd have opted for the K-series lenses m'self. It's interesting to note that no one asked about the conditions - dry, dusty, wet, cold, extreme heat. What sort of harsh conditions might be encountered? Are there some feature that certain bodies have that might make them better suited to one or

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread frank theriault
On 7/18/05, Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The old Series 1 lenses are pretty tough? I have a 24-48/3.8 - I could probably get by with just that and maybe a telephoto lens. I have that same lens, and it's been to the shop several times for aperture problems. I love the lens, but it seems not

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread Jon M
Yeah, I meant that the harsh conditions would be primarily jarring and shaking. Another question that was posed in my original email was how would you transport the equipment? I'll have a Camelbak, so no backpacks... I *could* add a cargo rack to the bike, but I don't know how well that would

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread P. J. Alling
The old S1 lenses are general very well built. If the 24-48mm is anything like the 35-85mm you couldn't do much better. Jon M wrote: The old Series 1 lenses are pretty tough? I have a 24-48/3.8 - I could probably get by with just that and maybe a telephoto lens. --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jul 2005 at 20:09, E.R.N. Reed wrote: You don't think the M series lenses are tougher? For some reason, I always assumed they were. Perhaps because of the metal. The only A lens that I own with plastic bits where it counts is the A50/1.4 all the others have all metal barrels, focus

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread P. J. Alling
25 year old lens, try 30 these lenses were introduced in 1976. frank theriault wrote: On 7/18/05, Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The old Series 1 lenses are pretty tough? I have a 24-48/3.8 - I could probably get by with just that and maybe a telephoto lens. I have that same lens,

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread frank theriault
On 7/18/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 25 year old lens, try 30 these lenses were introduced in 1976. Yeah, I know. I just have trouble with the concept that we're in 2005 right now... g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions? I'd have opted for the K-series lenses m'self. It's interesting to note that no one asked about the conditions - dry, dusty, wet, cold, extreme heat. What sort of harsh conditions might

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread David Mann
On Jul 19, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Jon M wrote: Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? Just how tough IS pentax equipment? How will you be carrying the gear? I don't recommend having

Re: Best equipment for harsh conditions?

2005-07-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 18, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Jon M wrote: Say you wanted to bring an SLR and 1-3 lenses with you on a mountain biking trip... how would you do it, and what sort of body/lenses would you bring? Just how tough IS pentax equipment? *ist DS body, FA20-35 lens. Fitted in a Zing body cover and