On 1/23/2010 12:01 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:50 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 1/21/2010 7:45:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
I don't care if he feels remorse, but he ought to have at least some
iota of pity.
Bob is a female? That complicates the entire situation. I
wonder why her parents named her Bob?
Paul
Hell, I went out with a Girl named Bob, well Roberta anyway...
(and yes I know there's a very dirty joke in there somewhere).
Certainly heading in that direction.
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Bob is a female? That complicates the entire situation. I
wonder why her parents named her Bob?
Paul
Hell, I went out with a Girl named Bob, well Roberta anyway...
(and yes I know there's a very dirty joke in there somewhere).
Certainly heading in that direction.
That's a blow.
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Cotty wrote:
Bob is a female? That complicates the entire situation. I
wonder why her parents named her Bob?
Paul
Hell, I went out with a Girl named Bob, well Roberta anyway...
(and yes I know there's a very dirty joke in there somewhere).
Certainly heading in that direction.
That's a
Bob is a female? That complicates the entire situation. I
wonder why her parents named her Bob?
Paul
Hell, I went out with a Girl named Bob, well Roberta anyway...
(and yes I know there's a very dirty joke in there somewhere).
Certainly heading in that direction.
That's a
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:01 AM, paul stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:50 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 1/21/2010 7:45:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
I don't care if he feels remorse, but he ought to have at
David J Brooks wrote:
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:01 AM, paul stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:50 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 1/21/2010 7:45:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
I don't care if he feels remorse, but
I simply love the word peradventure.
Tom
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:19 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Bob W
Subject: RE: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Abraham said it first and said it best, when God was gonna get medieval on
Sodom's ass
A justice system that does not function correctly, is by definition unjust.
Tom
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:08 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
Just pointing one thing out. That's an easy statement to make
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
A justice system that does not function correctly, is by definition unjust.
IMHO one must take a more organic view of things, Tom.
cheers,
frank
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 08:10:08AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
- Original Message - From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Bob Shell innocent?
[snip]
I followed the David Milgaard case fairly closely after his mom forced
the Crown to look at the case again. I was pretty appalled
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:19:10AM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:15:54PM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off Harpers head.
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
A justice system that does not function correctly, is by definition
unjust.
IMHO one must take a more organic view of things, Tom.
If you look at the notable failures, it is almost always caused
Graydon wrote:
The US generally runs prisons as profit centres.
I don't think so. Maybe loss centers or money pits.
Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:19:10AM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at
- Original Message -
From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Graydon wrote:
The US generally runs prisons as profit centres.
I don't think so. Maybe loss centers or money pits.
Are they run as privately owned institutions under contract to the
government
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- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Graydon wrote:
The US generally runs prisons as profit centres.
I don't think so. Maybe loss centers or money pits.
Are they run as privately owned institutions under contract
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:10:31AM -0600, Bob Sullivan scripsit:
Graydon wrote:
The US generally runs prisons as profit centres.
I don't think so. Maybe loss centers or money pits.
The folks running the prisons are doing so on a for-profit basis in many
cases. Uncle Sam is not likely showing
From: frank theriault
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
A justice system that does not function correctly, is by definition unjust.
IMHO one must take a more organic view of things, Tom.
When you name a bureaucratic system of law enforcement and courts the
Graydon,
With some exceptions, prisons are built with public funds and run by
public employees. In an effort to relieve overcrowding, privately run
prisons have been proposed, but rarely used. Yhe general public in
the US has little sympathy for prisoners and spending on new, more
comfortable
From: Graydon
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:19:10AM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:15:54PM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:19:10AM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:15:54PM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
Or, a 1 day sentence for
An interesting series on NPR this last week - I only caught the first segment.
The reporter claims that 2/3 (that is 2 out of 3, 66%!) of the inmates in U.S.
prisons are pre-trial prisoners who can't make bail and who aren't allowed
release on own recognizance. Not because they wouldn't
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: Bob Shell innocent?
David J Brooks wrote:
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:01 AM, paul stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:50 PM
From: William Robb
From: Bob Sullivan
Graydon wrote:
The US generally runs prisons as profit centres.
I don't think so. Maybe loss centers or money pits.
Are they run as privately owned institutions under contract to the
government or are they owned by the government?
If it's the former,
Depends where you live. In several of the states with the highest
prison populations the prisons are run by private companies. And
in some of the states that currently don't contract out prison care
there are even discussions about shipping prisoners out-of-state.
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at
Depends where you live. In several of the states with the
highest prison populations the prisons are run by private
companies. And in some of the states that currently don't
contract out prison care there are even discussions about
shipping prisoners out-of-state.
Australia is very
frank theriault wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
No comment regarding Bob's guilt/innocence but I can tell you from being in
many product liability trials, that its not about the facts - its about the
story being told and how believable it and the
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
[...]
I suspect if Bob had been living anywhere other than where the Christian
version of Sharia law holds sway he would probably have gooten a few
months for posession of morphine
Once a PDML member, always a PDML member...
On 1/20/2010 10:54 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote:
Obviously Bob thinks he is.
The only former PDML member to be found guilty of murder - that we know of...
;-)
cheers,
On 1/22/2010 6:08 PM, frank theriault wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Tom Ccaka...@gmail.com wrote:
Just pointing one thing out. That's an easy statement to make until
you are the person wrongly convicted or unjustly sentenced. THEN the
justice system, regardless of how well it
On 1/22/2010 11:19 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:15:54PM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off Harpers head.
Unbeliveble
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:24 AM, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:
Now you're reminding me of last year's biggest news story about the retrial
of David Bain who was jailed in 1995 for the murder of his entire family. He
was acquitted of all charges in a retrial after serving 13 years
frank theriault wrote:
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:24 AM, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:
Now you're reminding me of last year's biggest news story about the retrial of
David Bain who was jailed in 1995 for the murder of his entire family. He was
acquitted of all charges in a
- Original Message -
From: John Sessoms
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Bob Shell was convicted of 8 charges; 7 felonies in addition to the
involuntary manslaughter conviction. He faced a possible minimum of 6
years and maximum of 131 years.
I can list off any number
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Bob Shell innocent?
As a percentage of those convicted, the wrongly convicted is very very
small, but for those who've lost years of their lives, one can't
imagine the torment. To my mind, one very good argument against
- Original Message -
From: mike wilson
Subject: Re: Bob Shell innocent?
To my mind, one very good argument against the
death penalty (some of those wrongly conviced would have been put to
death were they convicted in a US death penalty state).
...or an argument for. To my mind
Frank wrote:
Despite what some think the justice system works pretty damned well
most of the time. We hear about the travesties of justice all the
time because they make sensational news, but day in day out the guilty
usually get convicted and the innocent usually go free.
Just pointing one
- Original Message -
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Frank wrote:
Despite what some think the justice system works pretty damned well
most of the time. We hear about the travesties of justice all the
time because they make sensational news, but day in day out
, they receive the punishment the accused would
have/did receive.
Objectivity needs to be enforced.
Tom C.
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:24 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Tom C
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Frank wrote:
Despite what some think
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:15:54PM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off Harpers head.
Unbeliveble
Well, more like claiming to have made wildly grandiose plans
- Original Message -
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Sorry, but don't agree here. Free to try and bomb some other place now.
They planned to kill a lot of people and were caught before they could.,
Lots of jail time is my thoughts.
Now, if this had
From: frank theriault
There's a Toronto-based group called the Association in Defence of the
Wrongly Convicted:
http://www.aidwyc.org/
The lawyer who started it, James Lockyer is brilliant. I juniored on
a trial many years ago (while he was a junior partner with a prominent
Toronto criminal
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
Just pointing one thing out. That's an easy statement to make until
you are the person wrongly convicted or unjustly sentenced. THEN the
justice system, regardless of how well it has worked in on a case by
case basis, is a
Better one hundred guilty men go free than one innocent man be
condemned. - Thomas Jefferson
I know you'll agree.
Yes, I agree (subject to my comments, above) both with your
post and with Jefferson's quote (if I'm not mistaken it's
also been attributed to the great English
From: Tom C
I agree. I don't think there's a really good solution... the best I
can think of is one that provides for severe penalties to judges,
prosecutors, police, and witnesses if it is found that someone was
wrongly convicted or unjustly punished because of their participatory
acts.
- Original Message -
From: Bob W
Subject: RE: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Abraham said it first and said it best, when God was gonna get medieval on
Sodom's ass:
This is such a Mark! on so many levels.
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In a message dated 1/21/2010 7:45:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
I don't care if he feels remorse, but he ought to have at least some
iota of pity.
===
From a female perspective, I was not impressed with Bob when he was on
list.
Marnie aka Doe
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:50 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 1/21/2010 7:45:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
I don't care if he feels remorse, but he ought to have at least some
iota of pity.
===
From a female perspective, I was not
===
From a female perspective, I was not impressed with Bob
when he was
on
list.
Bob is a female? That complicates the entire situation. I
wonder why her parents named her Bob?
Paul
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM, William Robb
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Obviously Bob thinks he is.
The only former PDML member to be found guilty of murder -
that we know of...
...so far...
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frank theriault wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Obviously Bob thinks he is.
The only former PDML member to be found guilty of murder - that we know of...
;-)
cheers,
frank
And, I'd guess we don't _really_ know whether Bob was railroaded by a
The appeal to Kafka doesn't work for me. Bob knows exactly what he's
convicted of.
And there's a distinct lack of empathy in his writing. He's more
concerned with the time and money he's losing than he is with the
victim's loss. I might have a little more sympathy for him if he showed
a
- Original Message -
From: Keith Whaley
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
And, I'd guess we don't _really_ know whether Bob was railroaded by a
P.O.S. judge or not, do we?
Does anyone here feel it's morally justifiable to support a 35 year
sentence for what seems to amount
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
And, I'd guess we don't _really_ know whether Bob was railroaded by a P.O.S.
judge or not, do we?
Does anyone here feel it's morally justifiable to support a 35 year sentence
for what seems to amount to negligent
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM, William Robb
war...@gmail.com wrote:
Obviously Bob thinks he is.
The only former PDML member to be found guilty of murder -
that we know of...
...so far...
Does wishful thinking count?
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
frank theriault wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Obviously Bob thinks he is.
The only former PDML member to be found guilty of murder - that we know
of...
;-)
cheers,
- Original Message -
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off Harpers head.
Cutting off Harper's head should at least be good for an Order of Canada
medal.
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frank theriault wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
And, I'd guess we don't _really_ know whether Bob was railroaded by a P.O.S.
judge or not, do we?
Does anyone here feel it's morally justifiable to support a 35 year sentence
for what seems to
manslaughter?
I know nothing of Bob Shell apart from what was posted here several
years ago, but I thought it was an outrageous sentence when it was
handed down and I still think so.
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:15 -0500, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off Harpers head.
???
Cheers
Brian
++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
I had a bit of correspondence with Bob before he went inside. There's no
smoke without fire, but nobody should serve 35 years for negligent
homicide. Here in the UK we have one charge for murder (no degrees) and
one charge for manslaughter, which carries an average sentence of 7
years. I doubt Bob
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
snip
By calling it murder, you did indeed make a judgment call. The very word
'murder' implies intent. Yes, I'm being pedantic, but as my friend Yodar
(Joe Strain) says, Words Mean Things.
snip
No, I wasn't making a
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:15:54 -0500
David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off Harpers head.
Unbeliveble
should get 30 years for missing harper... missed this story though.
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:15 -0500, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
wrote:
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off Harpers head.
???
A number of
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com
wrote:
snip
By calling it murder, you did indeed make a judgment call. The very word
'murder' implies intent. Yes
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
No comment regarding Bob's guilt/innocence but I can tell you from being in
many product liability trials, that its not about the facts - its about the
story being told and how believable it and the story tellers (witnesses
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:15:54PM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
off Harpers head.
Unbeliveble
Well, more like claiming to have made wildly grandiose plans with no
plausible or even implausible mechanisms for success. Time
the best he could hope
for). I hate to see any innocent person in jail...
Bob Shell was convicted of 8 charges; 7 felonies in addition to the
involuntary manslaughter conviction. He faced a possible minimum of 6
years and maximum of 131 years.
He was sentenced to 8 years for the involuntary
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Bob Shell innocent?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
No comment regarding Bob's guilt/innocence but I can tell
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:56 AM, frank theriault wrote:
If Bob didn't do it, I hope he is able to appeal and either get an
acquittal (unlikely) or a new trial (likely the best he could hope
for). I hate to see any innocent person in jail...
Now you're reminding me of last year's biggest news
Obviously Bob thinks he is.
- Original Message -
From: brianSubject: Bob Shell innocent?
Some interesting reading
http://www.bobshelltruth.com/index.php
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Obviously Bob thinks he is.
- Original Message - From: brianSubject: Bob Shell innocent?
Some interesting reading
http://www.bobshelltruth.com/index.php
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
Obviously Bob thinks he is.
The only former PDML member to be found guilty of murder - that we know of...
;-)
cheers,
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Paul Stenquist wrote:
I read much of what is available. I'm not Monday Morning
Quarterbacking. The players have already decided the outcome. And,
yes, the girl is dead. That's okay with you?
No. Not at all.
All *I* can go on, to get as much of the real story as possible, is to read
what
On 02/09/07, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, ...
Prejudiced, Prejudiced, Prejudiced, Prejudiced, Prejudiced !
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On Sep 3, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Cotty wrote:
The jury decides sentence?? Hole moly. We do things different here.
The
judge decides. Besides, juries are notoriously fickle - if I was
guilty,
I'd opt to be tried by a jury. If I was innocent, I would opt to be
tried by a just a judge.
You
Here in Ontario, that would equate to about a 15 year sentence. No
parole for about 8 years. He would also get two years for every year
served in pretrial time so that gets taken off.
Bottom line, up here he'd be out in 3-5 years.
Ontario justice stinks.
Dave
On 9/1/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL
My experience with the Virginia Judicial System as a juror:
This case involved a 42 year old man who had been caught hunting
without a license, a misdemeanor. It turns out he had two felony
convictions from his early twenties and had lost his right to have gun,
however; this meant he was also
The judge probably thought that 5 years for a victim less crime was a
miscarriage of justice. Especially under a law designed for habitual
offenders.
Steve Desjardins wrote:
My experience with the Virginia Judicial System as a juror:
This case involved a 42 year old man who had been caught
Steve Desjardins wrote:
The judge explained to us that we hadn’t
simply wasted our time that morning. The term for the process was
“jury nullification” since we had used our “authority” to
override a law.
You should have bought a lottery ticket or two that day. Getting a judge
to admit
on bail pre-trial, as I think Bob Shell was, does that time
still count toward time served?
I expect he'll be sentenced to something between 6 and 30 years and
he'll be out on parole in 6 or less.
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off.
Bottom line, up here he'd be out in 3-5 years.
Ontario justice stinks.
If he's out on bail pre-trial, as I think Bob Shell was, does that time
still count toward time served?
I expect he'll be sentenced to something between 6 and 30 years and
he'll be out on parole in 6 or less
in 3-5 years.
Ontario justice stinks.
If he's out on bail pre-trial, as I think Bob Shell was, does that time
still count toward time served?
No.
I expect he'll be sentenced to something between 6 and 30 years and
he'll be out on parole in 6 or less.
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From:
P. J. Alling
If he survives. He's likely to be labeled a child molester, (even
though a 19 year old woman isn't exactly a child), other convicts seem
to think it's open season on them. An acquaintance of mine was jailed
after his ex-wife leveled charges that he molested his daughter.
A week or three ago I noticed that one of the books I have has a positive
quote on the back from a Bob Shell. I thought hmmm and emailed him,
asking if it was indeed the same Bob. He didn't reply. I guess I know why
now. I bet the cops still have his computers.
Do they have the internet
32 years is a grotesque sentence for manslaughter. I don't condone any
of the grubby and sordid behaviour that seems to have gone on in this
case, and I don't know if Bob Shell is in custody at the moment, but
if he's not I hope he's heading for the border - that's what I'd be
doing.
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From:
P. J. Alling
I don't know all of the facts in the case, but violent felons have
received lessor sentences for murder than the 37 years that seems to
be the jury recommendation here. Seems somehow out of proportion for
involuntary manslaughter.
He was charged with defilement of a
He's ultimately the victim of his own stupidity.
Who ain't?
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At least in rural Virginia...
John Sessoms wrote:
From:
P. J. Alling
I don't know all of the facts in the case, but violent felons have
received lessor sentences for murder than the 37 years that seems to
be the jury recommendation here. Seems somehow out of proportion for
involuntary
On 9/2/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He's ultimately the victim of his own stupidity.
Who ain't?
I'm not.
I long ago came to terms with embraced my stupidity.
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I long ago came to terms with embraced my stupidity.
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Pardon me, but LOL
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Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: About Bob Shell
On 9/2/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He's ultimately
Looks like the next step for some is to flaunt it. (Present company
accepted, Dave).
Jack
--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/2/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He's ultimately the victim of his own stupidity.
Who ain't?
I'm not.
I long ago came to terms with
On 02/09/07, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
And it's not uncommon for a jury to propose, and a judge to impose,
punishment for things the defendant wasn't actually convicted of. That's
the whole purpose of those charges that get dropped late in the trial.
The jury decides
Cotty wrote:
On 02/09/07, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
And it's not uncommon for a jury to propose, and a judge to impose,
punishment for things the defendant wasn't actually convicted of. That's
the whole purpose of those charges that get dropped late in the trial.
The
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Subject: Re: About Bob Shell
Cotty wrote:
On 02/09/07, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
And it's not uncommon for a jury to propose, and a judge
to impose,
punishment for things the defendant wasn't actually
convicted of. That's
the whole purpose of those charges
. The reaction is going to be
extreme.
Bob W wrote:
32 years is a grotesque sentence for manslaughter. I don't condone any
of the grubby and sordid behaviour that seems to have gone on in this
case, and I don't know if Bob Shell is in custody at the moment, but
if he's not I hope he's heading
of the grubby and sordid behaviour that seems to have gone on in this
case, and I don't know if Bob Shell is in custody at the moment, but
if he's not I hope he's heading for the border - that's what I'd be
doing.
--
Bob
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Paul Stenquist wrote:
And of course, the girl is dead. She's not just naked on film. She's
dead. Extreme is probably called for.
Paul
If that's all you know. or care about, you apparently don't know enough.
Just one more example of Monday Morning Quarterbacking, by those who are not
From:
Cotty
On 02/09/07, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
And it's not uncommon for a jury to propose, and a judge to impose,
punishment for things the defendant wasn't actually convicted of. That's
the whole purpose of those charges that get dropped late in the trial.
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