Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Bulent Celasun
Are you aware that you can only compare the results of similar (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so (and, compare K5 with D700 etc), the results are not much different. Remember, they are also the ones who scored the K5 body higher than much more expensive C/N bodies. Bulent

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
That's completely contrary to my impression of test results for both Canon and Nikon. Jack  - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On Nov 20

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:30 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Are you aware that you can only compare the results of similar (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so (and, compare K5 with D700 etc), the results are not much different. Remember, they are also the ones

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Bulent Celasun
- From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:30 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Are you aware that you can only compare the results of similar (MP-wise) camera body-lens pairs? If you do so

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
dismay. Jack - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:38 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Jack, I also had a very critical attitude (to say it politely) towards

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Back in the antediluvian age of film, Modern Photography, or maybe it was Popular Photography after they absorbed Modern, adopted the 43mm limited as their reference lens because it was the best all around lens they had ever tested. That lens hasn't changed since then really, so testing

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Back in the antediluvian age of film, Modern Photography, or maybe it was Popular Photography after they absorbed Modern, adopted the 43mm limited as their reference lens because it was the best all around lens they had ever tested. That lens hasn't changed

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
I didn't notice the misspelling. What spelling grade do I get? Jack ;-)  - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On Wed, Nov 21, 2012

DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance.   I dare anyone to make me feel better?   Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? I

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:04 , Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread David Savage
On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I dare anyone to make me feel better? http://500px.com/photo/18422461 :-P DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:25 , David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I dare anyone to make me feel better? http://500px.com/photo/18422461 Me and my shared work-cube environment only got a glimpse at that before closing.

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread David Savage
On 21 November 2012 07:23, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 16:25 , David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I dare anyone to make me feel better? http://500px.com/photo/18422461 Me and my shared

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
It appears that only a very few Pentax lenses have been tested. On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Their test results seem to run counter to most other sites, so there's that. On 11/20/2012 5:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Igor Roshchin
Jack, Maybe experience-based (!) personal opinions of many people about various Pentax lenses would help you: http://stans-photography.info/ . While, naturally, it might be skewed and not objective, what ultimately matters is your own experience with the lenses. For the lenses that you

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
OK, that did it. Thanks, Dave! ;-)) Jack   - Original Message - From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:25 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests On 21 November 2012 06:04, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
Without going back to check, shudder I believe there were 3 ugly pages. Jack   - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:38 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests It appears

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
, Igor. Jack - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Jack, Maybe experience-based (!) personal opinions of many people about various Pentax lenses would help you: http

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
of these particular testers. Comments appreciated, Igor. Jack - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests Jack, Maybe experience-based (!) personal opinions of many

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I dare anyone to make me feel better? When they publish

Re: DXOMark Pentax Lens Tests

2012-11-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 20, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'm sort of in a funk after reading DXO's Pentax lens test results. Even allowing for some older MP and camera technology, as a test group they demonstrate pitiful performance. I looked at a few Pentax lenses, then went and looked at some