Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-28 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 27, 2017, at 11:58 AM, John wrote: > > It looks to me like it only appears where the highlights are blown out. > > I'm guessing the artifact was always there, but it only became visible > when you brightened the scene overall in post processing. > > Now that

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-27 Thread John
It looks to me like it only appears where the highlights are blown out. I'm guessing the artifact was always there, but it only became visible when you brightened the scene overall in post processing. Now that you know about it, you can adjust for it; maybe by using an adjustment brush rather

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-27 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Two things I can think of. Either that camera is using a new cotton > sensor, or you are guilty of pushing fake news on us. You were never > there at all, but instead posed some of your friends holding signs in >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >But "Mr. Phelps"? Who he? Actually Jim Phelps: -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Two things I can think of. Either that camera is using a new cotton > sensor, or you are guilty of pushing fake news on us. You were never > there at all, but instead posed some of your friends holding signs in >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread ann sanfedele
://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/32348360731 Looks almost like watermarking, but not really. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote: On 25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the "disgustingly

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> I hit it with a dramatic Curves adjustment in Photoshop to make it >> more obvious: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ericweir.jpg > >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:17 PM, John wrote: > > I went through all the other images trying to recreate the conditions > under which I could see it, and if it *is* in any of the others, I > couldn't make it visible on my monitor. I just went through and compared what I

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Charles Robinson > wrote: > > "What's seen cannot be unseen". An article in todays WaPo reporting a survey in which people were shown images of Obama’s and Trump’s inaugurations. It seems, not surprisingly, that what some

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > It's worse than ruining that photo for me I went back and now that I know > what to look for I see that banding in the lightest parts, that aren't pure > white, of several of the images. I see it in several.

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > At very high, (for the K20D at least), ISOs the K20D "grain" pattern takes > on a linear look across the sensor. Not that kind of pattern banding but > still it's noticeable it you look for it. I used to hide

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Gonz wrote: > > Are you using an *istD? I had that problem when it got older... They > were horizontal lines however. Was this pic in portrait orientation? Not a *istD. A Fuji compact—XQ1. The image was in portrait orientation, but

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
Its acid rain from global warming... On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > >> On 25 Jan 2017, at 22:50, Eric Weir wrote: >> >> >>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts >>> wrote: >>> >>> I hit it with

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
> On 25 Jan 2017, at 22:50, Eric Weir wrote: > > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> I hit it with a dramatic Curves adjustment in Photoshop to make it >> more obvious: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ericweir.jpg > >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Charles Robinson > wrote: > > I'll wager the lines line up with his sensor and that the image > as we see it is rotated somewhat from the original capture. The image was cropped—drastically. And rotated to the right.

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > I hit it with a dramatic Curves adjustment in Photoshop to make it > more obvious: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ericweir.jpg Thanks. Weird. Looks like fabric. I’ll be interested in explanatory speculations.

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread John
I went through all the other images trying to recreate the conditions under which I could see it, and if it *is* in any of the others, I couldn't make it visible on my monitor. On 1/25/2017 4:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's worse than ruining that photo for me I went back and now that I know

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread John
On 1/25/2017 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I can see it Well, for those that see it—I don’t either, but I might have to have it pointed out to me—how do you explain it? I hit it with a dramatic Curves

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
Welcome to my world. "What's seen cannot be unseen". Sorry, P.J.! On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 3:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > It's worse than ruining that photo for me I went back and now that I know > what to look for I see that banding in the lightest parts, that

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
It's worse than ruining that photo for me I went back and now that I know what to look for I see that banding in the lightest parts, that aren't pure white, of several of the images. On 1/25/2017 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
At very high, (for the K20D at least), ISOs the K20D "grain" pattern takes on a linear look across the sensor. Not that kind of pattern banding but still it's noticeable it you look for it. I used to hide it by imposing an actual film grain pattern over it in Photoshop. It could be a

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
w.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/32348360731 >> >> Looks almost like watermarking, but not really. >> >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote: >> >>> On 25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> &g

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, now that I know what to look for I see it too. Thanks for ruining it for me. On 1/25/2017 4:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Eric Weir wrote: On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I can see it Well, for those that see it—I don’t either, but I might have

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Gonz
;> >> >OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the >> >"disgustingly large GESO." With trepidation because it is still >> >disgustingly large, though hopefully not so disgustingly large as the >> >first one. I beg forgiveness of my teac

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
That's it. I'll wager the lines line up with his sensor and that the image as we see it is rotated somewhat from the original capture. But what would cause those lines, I have no idea. My 2MP Olympus 2040Z would do that with extended exposures (over 2 seconds) but that was a million years ago,

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Eric Weir wrote: > >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> >> I can see it > >Well, for those that see it—I don’t either, but I might have to have it >pointed out to me—how do you explain it? I hit it with a dramatic Curves adjustment in Photoshop to make it

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
Thanks, Bob. > On Jan 25, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote: > > That's a great shot > > B > >> On 25 Jan 2017, at 17:04, Eric Weir <eew...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> >> OK, again with trepidation I share

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > > I can see it Well, for those that see it—I don’t either, but I might have to have it pointed out to me—how do you explain it? --

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
r <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote: >> >> Nope. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - From: "Charles Robinson" < >> charles.robinson...@gmail.com> >> Subje

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > Overall I think there is no single picture which grabs me by the neck - > I think there are probably 3 or 4 which will tell the story as a small group. > > So now your task, should you decide to accept it Mr Phelps,

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
That's a great shot B > On 25 Jan 2017, at 17:04, Eric Weir <eew...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the “disgustingly > large GESO.” With trepidation because it is still disgustingly large, though > hopefully n

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread John
25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the "disgustingly large GESO." With trepidation because it is still disgustingly large, though hopefully not so disgustingly large as the first one. I beg forgiveness of my teachers who

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread P. J. Alling
, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote: On 25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the "disgustingly large GESO." With trepidation because it is still disgustingly large, though hopefully not so di

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Larry Colen
Charles Robinson wrote: I think this is the only image doing it, and maybe it's just me, but... does anyone else see a series of parallel, almost-straight-up-and-down banding/lines through the sky on this image? https://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/32348360731 Yes, I do, it's most

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
ginal Message - From: "Charles Robinson" < > charles.robinson...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Disgustingly large GESO > > > I think this is the only image doing it, and maybe it's just me, but... >> does anyone else see a series of parallel, almost-straig

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Ken Waller
Nope. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Charles Robinson" <charles.robinson...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Disgustingly large GESO I think this is the only image doing it, and maybe it's just me, but... does

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Charles Robinson
, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote: > On 25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the > >"disgustingly large GESO." With trepidation because it is still > >dis

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the >"disgustingly large GESO." With trepidation because it is still >disgustingly large, though hopefully not so disgustingly large as the >first one. I beg forgiven

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > Hard to pick a favorite, but if forced it might be this one > . > Perhaps for nontechnical reasons, but then technique is not all

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
OK, again with trepidation I share a revised version of the “disgustingly large GESO.” With trepidation because it is still disgustingly large, though hopefully not so disgustingly large as the first one. I beg forgiveness of my teachers who would have had it still much, much smaller. <ht

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-25 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 24, 2017, at 5:55 PM, William Robb wrote: > > If nothing else, it shows that there are still some people in your country > that aren't totally fucked up stupid. More than some.

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread William Robb
If nothing else, it shows that there are still some people in your country that aren't totally fucked up stupid. On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 6:21 PM Eric Weir wrote: > > > > On Jan 23, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > > > No matter what side of

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 24, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 24/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I'm gonna give it another try. It'll be radical for me, thanks to you, >> but probably not enough for you. > > Think like a newspaper photographer - tell the

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread Ken Waller
Eric, I've been known to say that editing is the easiest way to improve your photography... -Original Message- >From: ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com> >Subject: Re: Disgustingly large GESO > >Eric - I may or may not chose the same few photos that Cotty did , but >

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Eric - I may or may not chose the same few photos that Cotty did , but the less is more rule is important... something I manage to accomplish with photos but have difficulty in doing the same with writing :-) Always fine to crop for the reasons others have pointed out, in my book - if for no

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'm gonna give it another try. It'll be radical for me, thanks to you, >but probably not enough for you. Think like a newspaper photographer - tell the story in a single picture! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, ||

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/1/17, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >Then watch your editor butcher that picture to tell his story... haha too true! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Then watch your editor butcher that picture to tell his story... On 1/24/2017 9:44 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 24/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm gonna give it another try. It'll be radical for me, thanks to you, but probably not enough for you. Think like a newspaper

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 24, 2017, at 6:37 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 23/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> As a writer I've learned that less really is more. Probably the story of >> this event would've been better communicated with a smaller, perhaps >> much smaller,

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-24 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 23/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: >As a writer I've learned that less really is more. Probably the story of >this event would've been better communicated with a smaller, perhaps >much smaller, set of images. Like the ones I chose - I'll be your picture editor any time you like

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-23 Thread Eric Weir
> On Jan 23, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > No matter what side of the issue you are on, it was a very newsworthy event. > You got some good photos, and a lot that could be better. Thanks to all who responded. I recognize that it’s a mixed bag, e.g., the obviously

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-23 Thread Larry Colen
Eric Weir wrote: Takin’ my life in my hands here. Don’t post much. Rarely post photos. And this is a little overboard number of images-wise. I beg your forgiveness on that. And for those who may take offense, my intent is not to offend. Comments on the photography, of individual images or the

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-23 Thread Bob W-PDML
Life magazine is supposed to have advised its photographers that a photo essay needs most of the following types of shot to be effective: Shooting plan 1. Intro / overall 2. Medium - one activity or group 3. Close-up / detail 4. Portrait 5. Interaction 6. Signature - summarise / decisive

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-23 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 23/1/17, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: > >Takin' my life in my hands here. Don't post much. Rarely post photos. >And this is a little overboard number of images-wise. I beg your >forgiveness on that. And for those who may take offense, my intent is >not to offend. Comments on the

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-23 Thread John
I didn't get as many good images here in Raleigh, but I'll be posting some soon. On 1/23/2017 10:23 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Takin’ my life in my hands here. Don’t post much. Rarely post photos. And this is a little overboard number of images-wise. I beg your forgiveness on that. And for those who

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-23 Thread Jack Davis
I'll "rain" whenever I please, thank you!! J Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 23, 2017, at 8:19 AM, Charles Robinson > wrote: > > Politically, it looks like you spent Saturday in Atlanta the same way I did > in St. Paul. Photo-wise, I would say it reminds me a lot

Re: Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-23 Thread Charles Robinson
Politically, it looks like you spent Saturday in Atlanta the same way I did in St. Paul. Photo-wise, I would say it reminds me a lot of my days with Pentax. Missed focus everywhere... :-( There are some fun ones there, but a crap-ton are spoiled by motion blur or focus not being anywhere near

Disgustingly large GESO

2017-01-23 Thread Eric Weir
Takin’ my life in my hands here. Don’t post much. Rarely post photos. And this is a little overboard number of images-wise. I beg your forgiveness on that. And for those who may take offense, my intent is not to offend. Comments on the photography, of individual images or the collection,