I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I'm calmer now than when I caused this little disaster on saturday.. through a series of hitting keys in error and then hitting one wrong intentionally but wrongly I basically deleted most of the photos I took with the Ist-d and K-5 .. windoze Xp is my system. I say most because anything i

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Charles Robinson
This software claims to be free and should be able to give you a clue about what's recoverable. I have not used it myself, but... no harm in downloading/installing and letting it scan your external drive to 'see what it can see' http://www.puransoftware.com/File-Recovery.html On Dec 16,

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Stan Halpin
Dumb question/suggestion from a Mac guy: On a Mac, when you delete files they go into the Trash which is just another folder (directory) in the file system. They stay there and can be dragged back to your photo folder or wherever until you empty the Trash. I vaguely recall that Windows is

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: through a series of hitting keys in error and then hitting one wrong intentionally but wrongly I basically deleted most of the photos I took with the Ist-d and K-5 .. snip been told that even though I deleted the files

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread CollinB
Dumb question/suggestion from a Mac guy: On a Mac, when you delete files they go into the Trash which is just another folder (directory) in the file system. They stay there and can be dragged back to your photo folder or wherever until you empty the Trash. I vaguely recall that Windows is similar.

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Dumb question/suggestion from a Mac guy: On a Mac, when you delete files they go into the Trash which is just another folder (directory) in the file system. They stay there and can be dragged back to your photo

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:28 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: On a local drive they go into the trash from which they may be recovered/restored. External drives force a permanent deletion. This seems to be a common misconception. For details:

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: through a series of hitting keys in error and then hitting one wrong intentionally but wrongly I basically deleted most of the photos I took with

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread CollinB
This seems to be a common misconception. For details: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en -us/recycle_bin.mspx?mfr=true On short, deleted files from local hard drives (even external ones) will be placed in the Recycle Bin _unless_ you specify otherwise. The

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:54 PM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: This seems to be a common misconception. For details: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en -us/recycle_bin.mspx?mfr=true On short, deleted files from local hard drives (even external

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 01:54:18PM -0500, CollinB wrote: This seems to be a common misconception. For details: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en -us/recycle_bin.mspx?mfr=true On short, deleted files from local hard drives (even external ones) will

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread alban bernard
You should have a look at these tools: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec or https://github.com/samueltardieu/recoverjpeg Recoverjpeg served me well in the past: it successfully recovered jpg files from a damaged usb stick and some sdcards. Its installation is straightforward under an

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Attila Boros
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:19 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 01:54:18PM -0500, CollinB wrote: So the deleted files *may* be on her main system? No. They may be in a recycle bin on the external drive. What John said. Each drive has it's own space for the

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread John
If you haven't emptied the Recycle Bin folder, they may still be in there. Right click the Recycle Bin and select explore. If they're in there right click the folder and select restore. That will put them back to where they were before you deleted them. On 12/16/2013 12:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread John
On 12/16/2013 1:30 PM, Attila Boros wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: through a series of hitting keys in error and then hitting one wrong intentionally but wrongly I basically deleted most of the photos I took with the Ist-d and K-5 .. snip

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread John
On 12/16/2013 1:54 PM, CollinB wrote: This seems to be a common misconception. For details: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en -us/recycle_bin.mspx?mfr=true On short, deleted files from local hard drives (even external ones) will be placed in the

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:13 AM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think the clusters are actually marked as free until you empty the Recycle Bin. Correct. I was assuming she did that, otherwise it's a very easy fix. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:19:16AM +0200, Attila Boros wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:13 AM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think the clusters are actually marked as free until you empty the Recycle Bin. Correct. I was assuming she did that, otherwise it's a very easy fix.

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread John
USB drives are not network drives, but you do have to watch out for the message such so is too large to fit in the recycle bin. Do you want to delete it permanently? (or some such). I think they may still be recoverable even then if you don't write anything else to the drive after choosing

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Just out of curiousity, is anybody else planning on updating their backups as soon as they get home? Good call:) This reminds me one of my favorite quotes The universe tends toward maximum irony. Don't push it. from here:

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
thanks for all your input guys, Attila you were most helpful... Just FYI everyone - The dumb thing I did was to click/say yes when it asked if I wanted to really really really delete - because I thought I was deleting a duplicate folder. I think I'm probably screwed because I defragged

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Paul Sorenson
Sandisk Rescue Pro... http://download.cnet.com/RescuePRO-Standard/3000-2242_4-10841762.html On 12/16/2013 4:16 PM, John wrote: On 12/16/2013 1:54 PM, CollinB wrote: This seems to be a common misconception. For details:

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread P.J. Alling
No that would depend. If the entire file structure was deleted, say a directory and all sub directories, then the entire directory would be marked as deleted if it were larger than the space allocated for the recycle bin. I expect that Ann's photo directory is larger than that space... On

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread P.J. Alling
Ann, if you defragged the disk, the files are now pretty much unrecoverable. While some of the space used by the files may not have been overwritten, the directory structures have all been rewritten. Anything left will most likely be recoverable only as fragments. On 12/16/2013 7:30 PM, Ann

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread steve harley
on 2013-12-16 15:20 Larry Colen wrote Just out of curiousity, is anybody else planning on updating their backups as soon as they get home? don't just update them, verify them! Friday was International Verify Your Backups Day: http://tidbits.com/article/10071 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread John
Yeah, but with XP when files are too large to fit in the recycle bin you get a warning message asking if you're sure you really want to delete it. On 12/16/2013 8:46 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: No that would depend. If the entire file structure was deleted, say a directory and all sub directories,

Re: I have to scream now... techno-trouble here

2013-12-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Hi, Pj - yeah it isn't looking good - but especially painful when self inflicted thank goodness I had the habit of reviewing photos pretty soon after taking them. and then there are the 500,000 or so photos I have as slides and prints from 40 years for film work. so things are not so