http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk100d/
In Short: Highly Recommended, wasn't too impressed with SR, fixes the
in-camera processing problems of *ist DS, poor buffer...
Mike
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Op Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:43:02 +0200 schreef keith_w
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John Forbes wrote:
There won't be massive price cuts because the margins aren't there to
permit massive price cuts.
Pentax will sell 6mp bodies for as long as people want to buy them.
Once
the price people are
P. J. Alling wrote:
Pentax doesn't warehouse much in the way of product anymore. They
build to fill orders.
Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese
companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in
detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years
Some time ago I wrote an article on trouble shooting production lines
for an industrial giant that shall be nameless. I went to Germany and
studied the lines day after day. I can tell you, without any
qualification, that the tiniest error in placement of a component on an
assembly line can
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese
companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in
detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the
company was bought by the
Pål Jensen wrote:
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese
companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in
detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the
company was bought by the Japanese. It
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: DCRP K100D Review
Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese
companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in
detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the
company
William Robb wrote:
From: Mark Roberts
Yep. It's SOP for Japanese companies (and many smart non-Japanese
companies). It's called the Kanban system. I saw it in action in
detail on a tour of a Dunlop tire factory a few years after the
company was bought by the Japanese. It depends greatly on
And then what? Throw 'em in the trash?
keith whaley
This is simple economics. It applies to all companies, in all market
economies.
John
Dumpster Diving for Pentax. LOL.
Sorry.
Tom C.
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Manufacturers don't make things in huge batches any more. You need to
keep up with modern methods.
John
One of the reasons why Pentax doesn't sell things in big batches. LOL.
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That wasn't the point though. The point is, 6 months from now, or even now,
will most customers be willing to buy a 6 MP DSLR when that's perceived as
the bottom of the barrel? (regardless of how good a camera it may be).
Tom C.
Paul S wrote:
My six megapixel camera takes excellent
If a store orders a large batch Pentax will build them, but they won't
build lenses or cameras to keep in stock, on spec. so to speak. They
seem to be getting large orders for K100D cameras so they're building
them as fast as they can. That's a huge batch, for Pentax at least.
Tom C wrote:
.
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:24:49 -0400
If a store orders a large batch Pentax will build them, but they won't
build lenses or cameras
If there's enough of a price differential, many will settle for the
six just to move up to a DSLR. I see six megapixel models eventually
selling for $300 new.
Paul
On Sep 1, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Tom C wrote:
That wasn't the point though. The point is, 6 months from now, or
even now,
will
You could be right... there's a diverse market of buyers. See how reaonable
I can be? :-)
Tom C.
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 13:18:12
a
customer wants it does not help sales or loyalty.
It's a fine line.
Tom C.
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If there's enough of a price differential, many will settle for the
six just to move up to a DSLR. I see six megapixel models eventually
selling for $300 new.
Paul
On Sep 1, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Tom C wrote
: DCRP K100D Review
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:27:47 -0400
Depends where you look. I was in talking to one of my local pushers
yesterday, and Pentax is outselling Sony there. They weren't impressed
with the demand for the A100 (which had sold only about 5 units from
that store, one of the major camera
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FWIW, Pentax expected DLSR sales volumes are dwarfed by even Sony.
They are only 6% marketshare behind Sony and is the fastest growing DSLR
manufacturer at present. If Sony doesn't release anything hot at Photokina
the K100 and K10D
Dear All,
Yet another K100D review:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k100d-review/index.shtml
Very nice, though it is rather unfair to compare
continuous shooting performance with the D80 - that is
a camera that will compete with the K10D. The K100D
should be compared with the D50.
Doug
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Dear All,
Yet another K100D review:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k100d-review/index.shtml
Very nice, though
and replace for Samsung GX-1S with Pentax
K100D or he didn't do his homework.
Still it's a very favorable review.
Douglas Newman wrote:
Dear All,
Yet another K100D review:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k100d-review/index.shtml
Very nice, though it is rather unfair to compare
K100D Review
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:06:14 -0700 (PDT)
Dear All,
Yet another K100D review:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k100d-review/index.shtml
Very nice, though it is rather unfair to compare
continuous shooting performance with the D80 - that is
a camera that will compete
John Forbes wrote:
There won't be massive price cuts because the margins aren't there to
permit massive price cuts.
Pentax will sell 6mp bodies for as long as people want to buy them. Once
the price people are willing to pay drops below the price at which Pentax
can turn a profit,
Pentax doesn't warehouse much in the way of product anymore. They build
to fill orders. When they can no longer recover costs they'll stop
making them and sell out what little is left and take the loss as a tax
write off.
keith_w wrote:
John Forbes wrote:
There won't be massive price
My six megapixel camera takes excellent pictures now. I suspect that
it will continue to do so until it dies. Which may well be many years
from now. My Pentax HP2 still takes excellent pictures.
On Aug 31, 2006, at 9:43 PM, keith_w wrote:
John Forbes wrote:
There won't be massive price cuts
Manufacturers don't make things in huge batches any more. You need to
keep up with modern methods.
John
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:43:02 +0100, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Forbes wrote:
There won't be massive price cuts because the margins aren't there to
permit massive price cuts.
You've been to board meetings and you're sure that is their intent?
On Aug 31, 2006, at 10:14 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Pentax doesn't warehouse much in the way of product anymore. They
build
to fill orders. When they can no longer recover costs they'll stop
making them and sell out what
Nope, I haven't but this is SOP for most manufactures these days. Why
would I assume that Pentax is any different.
Paul Stenquist wrote:
You've been to board meetings and you're sure that is their intent?
On Aug 31, 2006, at 10:14 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Pentax doesn't warehouse much in
Well, not exactly - it's a preview, but pretty
detailed.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/K100D/K100DA.HTM
I'm not sure what the big deal is about tungsten WB -
EVERY digital camera I have ever used does an awful
job of automatic WB in artificial light. The author
says that the answer is to
Doug, your getting like me, you spelt Canon wrong.
vbg
Dave
Quoting Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Here is a good (English) K100D review from Slovenia:
http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman/publish/article_1154.shtml
A very impressive performance. I am especially
impressed by the high
Doug, your getting like me, you spelt Canon wrong.
You mean, the correct spelling is Can*n?
- T
vbg
Dave
Quoting Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Here is a good (English) K100D review from Slovenia:
http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman/publish/article_1154.shtml
A very
The answer is to shoot RAW, and custom set white balance during
conversion in CS2. The funny thing is that to me plus/minus-500K is
usually acceptable, so it is not that critical anyway.
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Quoting Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Doug, your getting like me, you spelt Canon wrong.
You mean, the correct spelling is Can*n?
- T
vbg
Dave
Quoting Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Here is a good (English) K100D review from Slovenia:
http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman
is a good (English) K100D review from Slovenia:
http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman/publish/article_1154.shtml
A very impressive performance. I am especially
impressed by the high ISO performance which looks even
better than my C*non 20D (and that is pretty good).
Unless there is something REALLY
On 8/29/06, D Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug, your getting like me, you spelt Canon wrong.
vbg
Have you tried eating bread with more grains. sheepish grin
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You're not obliged to buy in Belgium :-) In Poland body is around 570
Euro, kit with DA 18-55 around 690 ;-)
On 28.08.2006, at 01:02 , Thibouille wrote:
In Belgium it goes for 650euros body only. Compared to the DL: 450
euros, it is pricey.
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Here is a good (English) K100D review from Slovenia:
http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman/publish/article_1154.shtml
A very impressive performance. I am especially
impressed by the high ISO performance which looks even
better than my C*non 20D (and that is pretty good).
Unless there is something
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/totally.shtml
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Nice review. Although, deep down in my psyche, I still rankle about the
compatibiltiy of older K-mount lenses, I did get kind of get use to the
extra step using my *ist D. I like the anti-shake feature of the K100.
The price seems right, too. Don't know If I will spring for the K100 or
In Europe the K100D isq still a bit pricey IMO.
In Belgium it goes for 650euros body only. Compared to the DL: 450
euros, it is pricey.
2006/8/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Nice review. Although, deep down in my psyche, I still rankle about the
compatibiltiy of older K-mount
Yes, good point. One reason I'm going to keep one of my *istD cameras
after the release of the 10D is due to its excellent high ISO
capability. Of course, if the 10 is better, it might join its sibling
on the block.
Paul
On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:11 PM, Douglas Newman wrote:
I did enjoy Mike's
I did enjoy Mike's review, but I am surprised to hear
that he finds something deficient about the high ISO
capability of the K100D. It should be just as good as
any other camera - or at least its *ist-series
predecessors were.
I am going to send him an e-mail and ask him to
elaborate on this
I don't think you have to worry about the K10D being better, it's very
likely going to be. As nice as the *istD is, it's not particularly good
at high ISO's. The D is noisy for a 6MP camera.
-Adam
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Yes, good point. One reason I'm going to keep one of my *istD cameras
Translated. Includes interesting interview with one of developers.
Ken was right - SR was in development for about 20 years!!! And
results are very good, even with shutter speeds 3 stops lower than it
would be normally required.
On 2006-06-20 10:05, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
Translated. Includes interesting interview with one of developers.
Ken was right - SR was in development for about 20 years!!! And
results are very good, even with shutter speeds 3 stops lower than it
would be normally required.
Martin Trautmann wrote:
Frictionless sounds like some kind of magnetic levetation. This would
mean, that when powered on the CCD will lift of the zero-position for a
minimum amount of space. This lifting would shift the projection area.
AF needs a different focus adjustment.
They could
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Subject: Re: First K100D review with samples
However, one question comes to mind: They describe the SR mechanism as a
kind of frictionless electromagnetic system, taking no energy loss.
Ok - no energy loss is marketing speech
On 2006-06-20 07:46, William Robb wrote:
I suspect you are taking the anal-literal approach to reading these things.
Yes, I'd say so. It's the view of a technical person who does try to
understand the function behind.
Others don't mind there anal results or oral input, as long as there's
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From: Martin Trautmann
Subject: Re: First K100D review with samples
I suspect you are taking the anal-literal approach to reading these
things.
Yes, I'd say so. It's the view of a technical person who does try to
understand the function behind.
Others
Thanks for posting the link. Reading google translate japanese is
itself worth the effort for the laughs. :-)
Sounds like very good AF performance and SR performance. Bodes well
for the 10Mpixel body too.
Godfrey
On Jun 20, 2006, at 1:05 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
Translated. Includes
I've read with interest what PDMLers say about Pentax antishake,
but I remember reading, I think on DPreveiw, about the Optio A10
where antishake results were inconsistent. Mind, many think those
folks have a bias against Pentax. I would guess the DLSRs that are
a' coming would have better
On 20.06.06, at 19:02 , Lon Williamson wrote:
I've read with interest what PDMLers say about Pentax antishake,
but I remember reading, I think on DPreveiw, about the Optio A10
where antishake results were inconsistent. Mind, many think those
folks have a bias against Pentax. I would guess
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