Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-20 Thread David J Brooks
No return calls from Pentax as of Friday. I did some testing Saturday, with our new flowers in the garden. Shot the DA 50 f2.8 and the FA 100 f2.8, tripod as expected.:-) Wrote down exact focus point, and did the 50 first and the 100 second. Seems from what i see on my monitor, the DA is still

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Were these true macro shots, as in 1:3 or tighter? You can't really expect good autofocus performance on macro shots. They demand manual focus. You really need to test manually to see if you have a mirror box problem. If you're hoping to get great autofocus perfromance on close in macro

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-20 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: K10D is back, again Were these true macro shots, as in 1:3 or tighter? You can't really expect good autofocus performance on macro shots. They demand manual focus. You really need to test manually to see if you have

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-20 Thread David J Brooks
totally melt down,. :-) Dave Dave On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 2:06 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: K10D is back, again Were these true macro shots, as in 1:3 or tighter? You can't really expect good autofocus

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-17 Thread David J Brooks
Yes its in both, as it was in MF that i first noticed the problem at wide or near wide open. I did a quick down and dirty test with the DA 50 at F2.8 on the istD and it looks much better, on the little LCD screen. I have not looked at it on my computer. I'll call Pentax and discuss Dave On

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-16 Thread Marcus A. Hofmann
Just out of curiosity, is there some standard way to test this? I have not seen any focusing issues with my camera and lenses (because so many pictures are out of focus, which is of course user error), but I was wondering if there is a way to find out. Thanks. Marcus -- Am 16.04.2008 um

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-16 Thread David J Brooks
Manual and AF Paul. It looks perfectly fine in the finder. I'll do some more tests today, and print some 4x6 pictures and call them and discuss the mirror box with them. I have 1 shot, with the DA 50, focused on the side of some ones head, about 15' away, and the door behind him is in focus,

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
I'm just curious. Does anyone know how widespread this kind of problem is? What I mean is 1) Do other manufacturers have the same level of QC problems, and 2) do the older film cameras and lenses have the same issues? I never really checked my film cameras. I noticed a small back focus with my

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
If it happens with manual and autofocus it has to be either the mirror box or the lens. Pentax probably checked only the autofocus. You have to tell them it's NOT an autofocus problem. That's the kind of service they customarily have to provide, so if you don't make it clear that you have

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Every manufacturer has autofocus problems. It's an imprecise science in terms of the match between cameras and lenses. But David DOES NOT HAVE AN AUTOFOCUS PROBLEM! :-)) The conversation keeps going back to that, and I think it's leading him in the wrong direction. On Apr 16, 2008, at

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, other manufacturers have QC problems like this. The final QC has always been the consumer, but the QC at the manufacturer was better in the past. QC costs money, and in my experience is usually done by technicians who wish they were doing something else, that paid better. Much easier

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-15 Thread David J Brooks
Initial test with the new DA 50 F2,8, still shows about a 4cm back focus at F2.8. So now what, send in the 50, the FA 100, back with the camera. Pentax said all i ok, and if i'm not happy, to do just that., If so, do they match up the lenses like the K20D does. This is so bogus, i can see no

Re: K10D is back, again

2008-04-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
4cm is huge. That's not on the order of matching up lenses, as with the K20D. Either there's a major mirror box problem that they're missing or the lens is severely out of whack. Is it out of whack when you manual focus as well? If so, it's probably the mirror box. Paul On Apr 15, 2008, at

K10D is back, again

2008-04-14 Thread David J Brooks
Mr Purolator arrived about 5 minutes after i got back from my PM run. I'll test it Tuesday. There is a letter inside saying focus checked and is ok. If problem is still evident, to send in the lenses. That will be an expensive courior bill. If i have to, i'll drive them in. Dave -- Equine