Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-28 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Mishka wrote: NO! NO! NO! the filter is NOT an integral part of optical formula of MIR-47! just read the damn instructions! Thank you, thank you, thank you! I can't read Russian, but I gave the manual to a Russian colleague who told me he couldn't find a mention of

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-28 Thread Mishka
i did that when i had one, and found no difference whatsoever. i wold be curious to see your results. best, mishka On 7/28/05, Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I am going to run a damn test this w/e with and without the filter. I should have done that in the first place, eh?

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Vid Strpic wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 09:56:33AM +0100, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Vid Strpic wrote: I have one, not yet tried it on digital, but plain photos on 35mm film look nice. Have you also considered MIR-47 2.5/20? I just ordered one,

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-27 Thread Bertil Holmberg
Thank you again for all the tips and links relating to wide lenses :-) Bob Atkins has written a nice introduction called: Wide angle lenses for small sensor APS-C Digital SLRs that compares the new lenses from Tamron, Tokina, Canon, and Sigma. A second page adds thoughts on fisheyes. He

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-27 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Bob Atkins has written a nice introduction called: Wide angle lenses for small sensor APS-C Digital SLRs that compares the new lenses from Tamron, Tokina, Canon, and Sigma. A second page adds thoughts on fisheyes. He also offers a review of the Zenitar with example photos!

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-27 Thread Carlos Royo
Kostas Kavoussanakis escribió: Not sure you got what I mean, Vid: the MIR-47 is a bit too long and the mirror of some Pentax cameras (you may need to check which does so) hits it when taking a picture. The end result is that the camera mirror breaks. Because the filters (at the back) are

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Jul 2005 at 10:22, Cory Papenfuss wrote: The other thing to note (that the atkins article mentions) is that the conversion from fisheye-rectiliner isn't a simple geometric transformation. The fisheye is effectively wider (i.e. will cover more angle of view) than an equivalent

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-27 Thread Cory Papenfuss
In other words, they're completely different. If you can get away with the barrel distortion from a fisheye, you'll tend to get better results than trying to defish it all the time. Not in my experience. Of course it's subjective on what an individual likes. I guess what I was trying to

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-27 Thread Mishka
NO! NO! NO! the filter is NOT an integral part of optical formula of MIR-47! just read the damn instructions! OTOH, on the 16mm fisheye, it is. I think this is the source of the confusion (but 16mm zenitar is very mirror-friendly) mishka On 7/27/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-27 Thread Vid Strpic
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:28:15AM +0100, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Vid Strpic wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 09:56:33AM +0100, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Vid Strpic wrote: I have one, not yet tried it on digital, but plain photos on 35mm film look

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/7/05, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, unleashed: That's a great place! If it had a four car garage, I'd almost be willing to move to Jolly Old Blighty just to buy it. :-) I can go better than that Doug. It has parking for 10 cars! All out on the street :-( Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Vid Strpic wrote: I have one, not yet tried it on digital, but plain photos on 35mm film look nice. Have you also considered MIR-47 2.5/20? I just ordered one, it seems to be rectilinear lens... http://rugift.com/photocameras/mir_47_k_lens.htm Is this the one that

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-26 Thread Chris Stoddart
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Vid Strpic wrote: I have one, not yet tried it on digital, but plain photos on 35mm film look nice. Have you also considered MIR-47 2.5/20? I just ordered one, it seems to be rectilinear lens... http://rugift.com/photocameras/mir_47_k_lens.htm On Tue, 26

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-26 Thread Vid Strpic
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 09:56:33AM +0100, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Vid Strpic wrote: I have one, not yet tried it on digital, but plain photos on 35mm film look nice. Have you also considered MIR-47 2.5/20? I just ordered one, it seems to be rectilinear lens...

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Bertil Holmberg
Very nice images, great looking house too, thank you for the housewarming! Paying dearly for a [used] Pentax lens and then only using part of it for the rare shot that needs these extreme angles seems a bit silly to me. So I'm considering the Zenitar instead that can be had brand new for

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Tom Reese
William (Quasimodo) Robb wrote: I dunno, I have a fisheye too. And a hump. Tom Reese

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:18:03 +0200, Bertil Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the field-of-view calculator link! This does not explain the 180 degrees claimed for some fish-eyes though. Are these a special case? Yes. Fish-eyes different from rectilineair lenses. See for instance

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Re: K15mm for House Interiors I dunno, I have a fisheye too. And a hump. I'm getting that from lookin down at all the little people. William Robb

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Jul 2005 at 12:18, Bertil Holmberg wrote: Paying dearly for a [used] Pentax lens and then only using part of it for the rare shot that needs these extreme angles seems a bit silly to me. So I'm considering the Zenitar instead that can be had brand new for $105 + SH from Russia.

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Cotty
On 26/7/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: The Pentax fish-eye lenses are what is generally referred to as full-frame fisheyes in that their image circle doesn't fit within the frame but is designed to provide 180 degrees across the diagonal of the frame. A full- frame fisheye lens

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 25, 2005, at 3:18 AM, Bertil Holmberg wrote: Paying dearly for a [used] Pentax lens and then only using part of it for the rare shot that needs these extreme angles seems a bit silly to me. So I'm considering the Zenitar instead that can be had brand new for $105 + SH from Russia.

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Yep, I use it as a ~22~24mm equivalent sometimes, (alright Bill where's that scream). I've always liked it on film. On digital it's not quite so magic. Cotty wrote: On 26/7/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: The Pentax fish-eye lenses are what is generally referred to as

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Paying dearly for a [used] Pentax lens and then only using part of it for the rare shot that needs these extreme angles seems a bit silly to me. So I'm considering the Zenitar instead that can be had brand new for $105 + SH from Russia. I'm sure you've already looked, but if you're truly

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread brooksdj
They say buying a house is one of the most stressful activities possible. http://www.cottysnaps.com/houses/cornstreet.html (Don't bother if on dial-up - two dozen shots at about 80 kb each, z.) I loved the house but my SO didn't, Cheers,

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Bertil Holmberg
Thank you all for the info on fish-eye lenses! The photo.net article is just what I needed! I think I have seen the Pelang lens on eBay but there does not seem to be one there now, and pitifully little information on the web at large. So I will get a Zenitar and see if that fulfill my

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Now wonder she did not like it. The walls are crooked, the yard has not been cut for years and there is someone hiding in the bathroom. :-) LOL! Thanks for the laugh Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 01:42 PM 25/07/2005 , you wrote: Thank you all for the info on fish-eye lenses! The photo.net article is just what I needed! I think I have seen the Pelang lens on eBay but there does not seem to be one there now, and pitifully little information on the web at large.

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Bertil Holmberg wrote: The Pentax roadmap lists a fish-eye zoom of about 10-20mm but there is already the 12-24mm zoom to buy. These do not compete with each other, the 10-20 FE will be FE on digital too. Hopefully, we will see a Pentax version of the Sigma 10-20mm

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:41:51 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They say buying a house is one of the most stressful activities possible. http://www.cottysnaps.com/houses/cornstreet.html (Don't bother if on dial-up - two dozen shots at about

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-25 Thread Vid Strpic
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 10:42:41PM +0200, Bertil Holmberg wrote: Thank you all for the info on fish-eye lenses! The photo.net article is just what I needed! I think I have seen the Pelang lens on eBay but there does not seem to be one there now, and pitifully little information on the

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Heya Cotty, Just got a chance to look at the pictures. Nice place. I'm not a fan of the bedrooms with those pitched ceilings, though. I moved apartments recently and know what you mean about selecting a place. Sometimes it seemed I and my partner had diametrically opposed notions of what

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread Fred
Thanks, Cotty, for sharing the photos. I've been looking for a number of 15/3.5 shots taken on one of the Pentax DSLR's, to see just how wide the 15/3.5 is with the crop effect. (I'd say it's still pretty wide, but just not extremely so.) Thanks again. Fred

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Fred wrote: Thanks, Cotty, for sharing the photos. I've been looking for a number of 15/3.5 shots taken on one of the Pentax DSLR's, to see just how wide the 15/3.5 is with the crop effect. (I'd say it's still pretty wide, but just not extremely so.) Thanks again.

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 24, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Fred wrote: Thanks, Cotty, for sharing the photos. I've been looking for a number of 15/3.5 shots taken on one of the Pentax DSLR's, to see just how wide the 15/3.5 is with the crop effect. (I'd say it's still pretty wide, but just not extremely so.) Thanks

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/7/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Just got a chance to look at the pictures. Nice place. I'm not a fan of the bedrooms with those pitched ceilings, though. I moved apartments recently and know what you mean about selecting a place. Sometimes it seemed I and my partner

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread Fred
Thanks, Cotty, for sharing the photos. I've been looking for a number of 15/3.5 shots taken on one of the Pentax DSLR's, to see just how wide the 15/3.5 is with the crop effect. (I'd say it's still pretty wide, but just not extremely so.) Thanks again. Cotty's camera has a 1.3 crop

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Fred Subject: Re: K15mm for House Interiors So, I guess I'm still on the lookout for some 15/3.5 on a Pentax DSLR images... I'll get a crew on that for you. William Robb

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread Mishka
just curious: why not a fisheye? (i suspect the answer would be because I have 15 ! :) best, mishka

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread Fred
just curious: why not a fisheye? (i suspect the answer would be because I have 15 ! :) Hi, Mishka. If that's directed at me, well, I do have both an A 15/3.5 (rectilinear) and an A 16/2.8 Fisheye. But, I don't yet have a DSLR, so I'm still left imagining what it's like to use it - g. Fred

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mishka Subject: Re: K15mm for House Interiors just curious: why not a fisheye? (i suspect the answer would be because I have 15 ! :) I dunno, I have a fisheye too. William Robb

K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-23 Thread Cotty
They say buying a house is one of the most stressful activities possible. They're not kidding, and we haven't even chosen the damned thing. We're house-hunting at the mo, and at the risk of jinxing any potential purchase, i go to viewings with a camera and do some quick and dirty snaps so I can

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: K15mm for House Interiors They say buying a house is one of the most stressful activities possible. They're not kidding, and we haven't even chosen the damned thing. Try renovating one when you don't know what the hell you are doing

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-23 Thread David Savage
Nice shots of a nice house. Somewhat cave like though with all that stonework ;-) Given the pitched ceiling of the master bedroom you could have been in real danger of knocking your self out though VBG Dave. On 7/24/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They say buying a house is one of the most

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005, Cotty wrote: http://www.cottysnaps.com/houses/cornstreet.html (Don't bother if on dial-up - two dozen shots at about 80 kb each, z.) I loved the house but my SO didn't, and after an almighty row a few hours Sorry Cotty, but Alma is right: judging from the angles in

Re: K15mm for House Interiors

2005-07-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/7/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry Cotty, but Alma is right: judging from the angles in those shots you are too tall for this house. The height is not a problem. The downstairs celings are nearly 8 feet. One bedroom door is 5 feet, no problem. She doesn't like