Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-27 Thread Jos from Holland
Me too, I miss very much the curves I had in Photoshop, I had full controll by dragging the slope to any position. Make a negative slope to convert negatives. Making local negative slopes to simulate preudo solarisation etcetera. All with immediate understanding of the transfer function.

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jos from Holland jos_from_holl...@onsnet.nu wrote: Me too, I miss very much the curves I had in Photoshop, I had full controll by dragging the slope to any position. Make a negative slope to convert negatives. Making local negative slopes to simulate preudo

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-27 Thread Jos from Holland
Thanks so much,Matthew! All this time I suffered needlessly! You made my day and many days to come! Greetz, Jos On 27-2-2012 17:17, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jos from Holland jos_from_holl...@onsnet.nu wrote: Me too, I miss very much the curves I had in Photoshop,

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Sam L
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: In lightroom (and I imagine PS camera raw), what is the difference between the exposure slider and the brightness slider? I expect that exposure is just a linear multiplier on the raw value, the slope of the line as it

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread David Parsons
If you are familiar with PS, Exposure sets your White Point, Brightness sets your gamma/midpoint, and Blacks sets your Black point. They correspond to the three controls in the Levels tool. If you hold the Alt key while adjusting the Exposure or Blacks sliders, you'll see that you are trying to

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Sam L
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: I think its interesting/odd that when I click the auto develop button in LR on my jpegs it always adjusts the Brightness slider but not the Exposure slider. *sigh* Just retested and that is incorrect. I really ought to buy

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:45 AM, David Parsons wrote: If you are familiar with PS, Exposure sets your White Point, Brightness sets your gamma/midpoint, and Blacks sets your Black point. They correspond to the three controls in the Levels tool. If you hold the Alt key while adjusting the

RE: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread JC O'Connell
Parsons Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness If you are familiar with PS, Exposure sets your White Point, Brightness sets your gamma/midpoint, and Blacks sets your Black point. They correspond to the three controls

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I hadn't known about the alt (option?) button while adjusting the sliders. I wish I could snag the output of that display as a separate image. alt on Windows, option on Apple systems. A timed grab of the screen would let

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
David Parsons wrote: If you are familiar with PS, Exposure sets your White Point, Brightness sets your gamma/midpoint, and Blacks sets your Black point. They correspond to the three controls in the Levels tool. As far as I can tell, this isn't true any more (I'm using Lightroom 3.4) - the

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread David Parsons
I haven't used PS since CS3, so you are probably right. On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David Parsons wrote: If you are familiar with PS, Exposure sets your White Point, Brightness sets your gamma/midpoint, and Blacks sets your Black point. They

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
David Parsons wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David Parsons wrote: If you are familiar with PS, Exposure sets your White Point, Brightness sets your gamma/midpoint, and Blacks sets your Black point. They correspond to the three controls in

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Larry Colen
On 2/26/2012 2:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: With CS4 (or maybe CS5) they changed the generic Brightness and Contrast tool in Photoshop, making it more sophisticated in how it altered, well, brightness and contrast. I suspect the same kind of change was made in Lightroom. It pisses me off,

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David Parsons wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David Parsons wrote: If you are familiar with PS, Exposure sets your White Point, Brightness sets your

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 2/26/2012 2:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: With CS4 (or maybe CS5) they changed the generic Brightness and Contrast tool in Photoshop, making it more sophisticated in how it altered, well, brightness and contrast. I suspect

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David Parsons wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: David Parsons wrote: If you are familiar with PS, Exposure sets your White Point,

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: You have a full Curves UI available. Or has it gone away in Lr 4? I have the curves control that's available in Lightroom 3, but again it's a rather neutered version of the curves control in Photoshop. Another sore

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 06:58:08PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: Netpbm and Imagemagick are your friends. I wouldn't call ImageMagick anyone's friend. A reluctant servant who can most of the time be coerced into doing what you want without too much violence, perhaps - especially if you are

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: You have a full Curves UI available. Or has it gone away in Lr 4? I have the curves control that's available in Lightroom 3, but again it's a rather neutered version of the curves control in

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:47 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 06:58:08PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: Netpbm and Imagemagick are your friends. I wouldn't call ImageMagick anyone's friend. A reluctant servant who can most of the time be coerced into doing what

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Do you know about the Point control capabilities of the Tone Curve panel? In LR3, it allows adjustment of Luminance only. In LR4 PB, it allows not only luminance control but RGB curves independently. I am entirely

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-25 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:06:23 -0800 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: In the develop module of Lightroom, and in Adobe Camera Raw, double-clicking on a slider usually resets it to it's original default value. Yes, usually.  Call up a picture in library in LR3.  Double click on brightness, and go into

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-20 Thread George Sinos
In the develop module of Lightroom, and in Adobe Camera Raw, double-clicking on a slider usually resets it to it's original default value. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Larry Colen

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:09 AM, George Sinos wrote: In the develop module of Lightroom, and in Adobe Camera Raw, double-clicking on a slider usually resets it to it's original default value. Yes, usually. Call up a picture in library in LR3. Double click on brightness, and go into develop.

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:09 AM, George Sinos wrote: In the develop module of Lightroom, and in Adobe Camera Raw, double-clicking on a slider usually resets it to it's original default value. Yes, usually.  Call up a picture

LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-19 Thread Larry Colen
In lightroom (and I imagine PS camera raw), what is the difference between the exposure slider and the brightness slider? I expect that exposure is just a linear multiplier on the raw value, the slope of the line as it were, and the blacks slider is the b of the y=mx+b of a linear conversion

Re: LR Question: exposure vs. brightness

2012-02-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: In lightroom (and I imagine PS camera raw), what is the difference between the exposure slider and the brightness slider? Through LR 3, I think Exposure is roughly equivalent to in-camera exposure adjustments (so it affects