Loved it!
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Worth the wait.
That is a stunning photo!
cheers,
frank
--- Original Message ---
From: Kevin Thornsberry kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com
Sent: November 4, 2012 11/4/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: My First PESO - 30 years late
To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO
Jesus of the Pylons. A very nice shot, well worth the wait.
B
-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Thornsberry
To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO. But today, I
was testing a new scanner and pulled out an old
Very dramatic color! Keep posting. Cheers, Christine
On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:25 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Jesus of the Pylons. A very nice shot, well worth the wait.
B
-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Thornsberry
To
Thanks for sharing a great memory, Kevin. Keep it up! :-)
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Thornsberry
kevin_thornsbe...@compuserve.com wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO. But today, I was
testing a new scanner and pulled out an old notebook of slide sleeves
To the best of my knowledge, I've never submitted a PESO. But today, I was
testing a new scanner and pulled out an old notebook of slide sleeves from
pictures I took in Brasil almost 30 years ago and came across this picture
of Rio de Janeiro. It's not a great picture and I just happened to be
David,
Consider this suggestion. Why wouldn't you make a regular shot of the
same scene (or similar one) so that the trees would be solid black? Then
you could compare the HDR variety with silhouette variety. Personally,
I'd prefer the silhouette type of shot, but it would be my vision, not
Too large for a PESO. You should size it so that it can be viewed
without scrolling. Technically, it's quite good in terms of rendering
both shadow and highlight. Aesthetically, I find it uninspiring. But
thanks for sharing it.
Paul
On Jan 7, 2007, at 2:11 AM, David Bliss wrote:
...and my
Hard to comment on the success of your attempt without seeing the original
scene, but for me I'd expect to see more detail in the trees.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: David Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: My First PESO (tm)
...and my very first attempt at an HDR-alike
...and my very first attempt at an HDR-alike (done by hand in Photoshop 6).
Shadows 1/3s at f/11, highlights 1/10s at f/11, K10D at 400ASA, FA 28-105.
Comments or criticisms appreciated. (As well as advice on noise-reduction
software for the shadows... I meant to shoot it at 100ASA)
)
-Original Message-
From: Michael Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3. mai 2006 06:20
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - My First PESO
This is partly an experiment in BW post-processing, part trying to
rescue a low-light shot.
Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images
The color version can be improved greatly with some curves adjustment
and saturation reduction. I also think you should remove the wart on
the nose and the pimples on the chin, since this is obviously a
portrait, not a news photograph. The BW version shows way too much
contrast with no shadow
it gets :)
Cory
- Original Message -
From: Michael Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:20 AM
Subject: PESO - My First PESO
This is partly an experiment in BW post-processing, part trying to
rescue a low-light shot.
Orig:
http
On 3-May-06, at 12:30 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
Michael, the b/w version is less unsuccessful than the original
color one. Yet both seem (at least to me) to lack the evident point
of focus. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed
person to be in focus. You seem to
On 3-May-06, at 4:05 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
The color version can be improved greatly with some curves
adjustment and saturation reduction.
Okay, i'll try that out!
I also think you should remove the wart on the nose and the pimples
on the chin, since this is obviously a portrait, not
Hi!
Yes, that's an ongoing problem. Low-light focusing with a manual focus
lens. I recently purchased a homemade split screen, but it doesn't seem
to work well with my FA or DA lenses and autofocus. Any suggestions?
No real help there... I had to move completely to AF lenses...
Boris
On May 2, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Technical:
*ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.
Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg
The shot is a bit dark. A little bit of adjustment to levels,
contrast and color correction brings it right up nicely. If you want
On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote:
.. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed person
to be in focus. You seem to have both out of focus.
Yes, that's an ongoing problem. Low-light focusing with a manual
focus lens. I recently purchased a homemade split
On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote:
Michael,
I took your original color image and did a little adjustment to it in
Photoshop, produced a color and BW version. If you use Photoshop
CS2, you can get the .PSD file to see what I did specifically.
On May 3, 2006, at 4:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/joc/
I like that *more* than what I did, but I think you may have gone a
bit
too far. It appears to be oversharpened, but I'll work with the
psd file
and see if I can find a happy medium!
Thanks,
On May 3, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote:
.. It is customary to have at least one eye of a portrayed person
to be in focus. You seem to have both out of focus.
Yes, that's an ongoing problem. Low-light focusing with a manual
focus lens. I recently purchased a homemade split
I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me. Here is my
second edition of my BW post-processing.
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106
Thoughts? Comments? Critiques?
Are the eyes too front and center now?
Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca
On
I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me. Here is my
second edition of my BW post-processing.
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106
Thoughts? Comments? Critiques?
Are the eyes too front and center now?
Michael Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca
On
On May 3, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106
Thoughts? Comments? Critiques?
Nice. It's a softer, warmer rendering than I did with it, probably a
bit more flattering. The eyes look fine to me, a little darker than I
might prefer but it's your
Much better. Good work.
Paul
On May 3, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Michael Hamilton wrote:
I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me. Here is my
second edition of my BW post-processing.
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106
Thoughts? Comments? Critiques?
Are the eyes too front and
Hi!
I'm quite happy with the tips that Godfrey provided me. Here is my
second edition of my BW post-processing.
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/?p=106
Thoughts? Comments? Critiques?
Are the eyes too front and center now?
Much better, Michael... Now, for some reason (whereas I may be
This is partly an experiment in BW post-processing, part trying to
rescue a low-light shot.
Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg
BW:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocbw.jpg
Technical:
*ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.
I de-saturated, then adjusted the
Hi!
This is partly an experiment in BW post-processing, part trying to
rescue a low-light shot.
Orig:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/joc.jpg
BW:
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/jocbw.jpg
Technical:
*ist DS, A-50mm/1.7, 1/25s, f/2.0, ISO 400.
I de-saturated, then adjusted the
Works for me now. Not sure it was worth the effort.
Bob
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
Bob Shell wrote:
On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
http://www.uandimag.com
No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good
-Adam
Who knows the editor/publisher.
I get an error
On 11/29/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I probably should get a life..
Why start now?
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/29/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I probably should get a life..
Why start now?
I'll get a life when someone demonstrates it would be superior to what
I have now.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Mark Roberts wrote:
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/29/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I probably should get a life..
Why start now?
I'll get a life when someone demonstrates it would be superior to what
I have now.
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and
Bob Shell wrote:
On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
http://www.uandimag.com
No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good
-Adam
Who knows the editor/publisher.
I get an error message that the URL can't be found.
Bob
Just checked it, and it's working.
-Adam
In a message dated 11/28/2005 10:19:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A bowl of fruit is already an object. You can't objectify it, you can
merely portray it as an object.
People are more than their physical selves. If you choose to
photograph or otherwise portray them
In a message dated 11/28/2005 7:47:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tact has never been one of my strong suits.
People seem to like me ayway.
William Robb
==
Of course, you could just be fooling yourself.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Key word - seem...
VBG
Tact has never been one of my strong suits
Actually, one of my stronger suits is a nice 2 piece, dark blue with narrow
grey stripes.
Kenneth Waller
(who just couldn't resist)
-Original Message-
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My first PESO
You guys need to be objective.
kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My first PESO
I object to your objection...
David Mann wrote:
On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:04 AM, William Robb wrote:
Seems to me that any portrayal of someone/thing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/28/2005 7:47:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tact has never been one of my strong suits.
People seem to like me ayway.
William Robb
==
Of course, you could just be fooling yourself.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Oh he *is*
On 29 Nov 2005 at 0:00, Kenneth Waller wrote:
You guys need to be objective.
Apparently the only objective needed to produce a great photograph objectifying
the subject or not is that from a Holga :-)
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT) +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry, but I've had very little exposure to a Holga. ;)
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My first PESO
On 29 Nov 2005 at 0:00, Kenneth Waller wrote:
You guys need to be objective.
Apparently the only objective needed to produce
On 11/29/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I gather Norm does some modelling now and again.
I've witnessed it personally. It's not pretty.
That tree will never be the same...
LOL
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 11/28/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My bullshit meter just pinned.
Sorry Frank, but that is pompous crap.
I'm flattered that you read my posts.
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
You guys need to be objective.
kenneth Waller
I keep my objective on my microscope.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: My first PESO
I'm flattered that you read my posts.
I probably should get a life..
WW
On 11/27/05, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When a magazine's whale advertisers become their source of survival,
Marketing becomes their pimp and neutrality, their
whore.
snip
Mark!!
-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 11/26/05, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 26, 2005, at 12:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OTOH, objectifying women does annoy me.
You know, I hear this comment a lot, and I just don't understand it.
The main definition of objectify is exteriorize: make external or
objective,
Hmm..(?)
Jack
--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/27/05, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When a magazine's whale advertisers become their source of
survival,
Marketing becomes their pimp and neutrality, their
whore.
snip
Mark!!
-frank
--
Sharpness is a
On 11/28/05, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm..(?)
You'll find out soon enough.
Mark has been compiling his favourite quotes from PDML, and each year
he graces us with his pix of the year. Of course many of us are more
than happy to tell him how to do his job. LOL
-frank
--
Sharpness
Well said, Frank, and I pretty much agree with you 100%.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: frank theriault
Bob Shell said:
You know, I hear this comment a lot, and I just don't understand it.
The main definition of objectify is exteriorize: make external or
objective, or give reality
Yes, Frank makes a good point. And because people are not objects, it's
actually somewhat difficult to objectify them. The very act of photographing
them is almost certain to reveal something about their personality or
situation. Clothing can say a lot. The lack of clothing can sometimes say
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: My first PESO
A bowl of fruit is already an object. You can't objectify it, you can
merely portray it as an object.
People are more than their physical selves. If you choose to
photograph or otherwise portray them
On Nov 28, 2005, at 5:04 PM, William Robb wrote:
Seems to me that any portrayal of someone/thing is an
objectification.
That was my point, which somehow seems to have zoomed right past
Frank. It doesn't matter a whit if the subject is an object in the
first place.
As for
On 28/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
Even the portrayal of a deviant sexual act says a lot about a person --
perhaps a lot more than we want to know.
You talkin about me again??
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|
You been bad again...
Cotty wrote:
On 28/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
Even the portrayal of a deviant sexual act says a lot about a person --
perhaps a lot more than we want to know.
You talkin about me again??
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) |
On 11/28/05, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That was my point, which somehow seems to have zoomed right past
Frank. It doesn't matter a whit if the subject is an object in the
first place.
As for objectifying people, that goes back at least as far as the
Venus of Willendorf, no doubt
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: My first PESO
I don't see every portrayal as objectification. Far from it. I think
what I'm talking about is the difference between illustration and art,
the difference between a mere likeness and a portrait.
My bullshit
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: My first PESO
Even the portrayal of a deviant sexual act says a lot about a person --
perhaps a lot more than we want to know.
You talkin about me again??
You *really* should meet my wife..
WW
On Nov 28, 2005, at 6:11 PM, William Robb wrote:
I don't see every portrayal as objectification. Far from it. I
think
what I'm talking about is the difference between illustration and
art,
the difference between a mere likeness and a portrait.
My bullshit meter just pinned.
Sorry
GFM, June 2-4, 2006.
Continue discussion. Bring subjects.
Partial nudes, if model agrees, what the F.
Sir Dave, (The really over weight) Brooks
- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: My first PESO
A bowl of fruit is already
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: My first PESO
Filters don't know nothin' but they block everything. I remember a rumor
from about 5 years ago that Jpegs could carry
viruses, (no explanation of how they could operate or spread
@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: My first PESO
Filters don't know nothin' but they block everything. I remember a
rumor from about 5 years ago that Jpegs could carry
viruses, (no explanation of how they could operate or spread), the
administrators of the CSC wan
- Original Message -
From: Bob Shell
Subject: Re: My first PESO
I was getting ready to write a response, and then saw yours. I was
going to be more polite in my note, but I think you said it better.
Tact has never been one of my strong suits.
People seem to like me ayway
On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:04 AM, William Robb wrote:
Seems to me that any portrayal of someone/thing is an
objectification.
I object to being objectified.
- Dave
I object to your objection...
David Mann wrote:
On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:04 AM, William Robb wrote:
Seems to me that any portrayal of someone/thing is an objectification.
I object to being objectified.
- Dave
--
When you're worried or in doubt,
Run in circles, (scream and shout).
William Robb wrote:
Tact has never been one of my strong suits.
People seem to like me ayway.
Lead us not into temptation ...
- Original Message -
From: E.R.N. Reed
Subject: Re: My first PESO
William Robb wrote:
Tact has never been one of my strong suits.
People seem to like me ayway.
Lead us not into temptation ...
Awww, you know you don't mean that.
On 29/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:
GFM, June 2-4, 2006.
Continue discussion. Bring subjects.
Partial nudes, if model agrees, what the F.
I gather Norm does some modelling now and again.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
http://www.uandimag.com
No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good
-Adam
Who knows the editor/publisher.
I get an error message that the URL can't be found.
Bob
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
We are to hard to find, especially in winter(October to September)vbg
Dave
On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
http://www.uandimag.com
No ads. One issue so far. Pretty good
-Adam
Who knows the editor/publisher.
The subject of ads in photo magazines comes up frequently, and often
people commenting don't have a clue about the economics of magazine
[...]
Now if you look at those magazines with very few or no ads you'll find one
thing in common, much higher cover price (and much
higher subscription price if they offer subscriptions).
My main interest in photography is in photojournalism, documentary and
reportage, which are not
When a magazine's whale advertisers become their source of survival,
Marketing becomes their pimp and neutrality, their
whore.
Forgive me?
Jack
--- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 26, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
http://www.uandimag.com
No ads. One issue so far.
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
When a magazine's whale advertisers become their source of survival,
Marketing becomes their pimp and neutrality, their
whore.
Forgive me?
For what?
Bob
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Bob W wrote:
My main interest in photography is in photojournalism, documentary and
reportage, which are not particularly well served by the magazine
market,
for reasons that are perhaps obvious. The few that are around (like
'ei8ht')
fit this description
My flare for the obvious.
Jack
--- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 27, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
When a magazine's whale advertisers become their source of
survival,
Marketing becomes their pimp and neutrality, their
whore.
Forgive me?
For what?
Bob
In a message dated 11/27/2005 7:23:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, how many realize that the Post Office dictates editorial/
advertising percentage. You have to have the right percentages or
you can't get reduced postal rates. I think the current ratio is
70/30
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark Roberts
I agree, but soul stealing isn't a zero-sum game, it's like an idea:
If you have an idea and I have an idea and I give you mine and you give
me yours, we *both* now have *two* ideas. When you take someone's photo
you do, in a way,
On Nov 26, 2005, at 7:05 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
This doesn't explain the vacant eyed fashion models.
Well you have to *have* a soul for it to be stolen...
This explains why I refuse to photograph politicians.
Bob
On Nov 26, 2005, at 12:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OTOH, objectifying women does annoy me.
You know, I hear this comment a lot, and I just don't understand it.
The main definition of objectify is exteriorize: make external or
objective, or give reality to; language externalizes our
I think the term objectifying women has lost its literal meaning. In
our PC world it has come to mean depicting women in a way that is
blatantly sexual. However, that being said, I find that a difficult
line to draw. Human beings are inherently sexual. Its part of the
package. I don't know
On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I think the term objectifying women has lost its literal meaning.
In our PC world it has come to mean depicting women in a way that
is blatantly sexual. However, that being said, I find that a
difficult line to draw. Human beings are
Well said.
On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:04 AM, Bob Shell wrote:
On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I think the term objectifying women has lost its literal meaning.
In our PC world it has come to mean depicting women in a way that is
blatantly sexual. However, that being said, I
Here, here!
Jack
--- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I think the term objectifying women has lost its literal meaning.
In our PC world it has come to mean depicting women in a way that
is blatantly sexual. However, that being
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: My first PESO
I don't know what turns an artful nude into a sex object.
Props? A smile? The display of specific areas of the body?
It used to be eye contact with the camera.
In some circles now, you just have to take a saucy
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: My first PESO
This doesn't explain the vacant eyed fashion models.
Well you have to *have* a soul for it to be stolen...
Footwear models have sole.
WW
- Original Message -
From: Bob Shell
Subject: Re: My first PESO
This explains why I refuse to photograph politicians.
Pentax used to make the ideal camera for them. It was only a single shot
model, though.
William Robb
I'm right there with ya, Bob.
Godfrey
On Nov 26, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Bob Shell wrote:
To which I have to say, so what? I see women and men depicted in
blatantly sexual ways all the time: in advertising. The old ad
industry adage sex sells is in full flower. And it still works.
Does it
OK, warnings required for...
Nudity,
Snakes,
Surgical scars/wounds,
anything else? How about spiders?
Only one of the above will get me in trouble at work.
Regards, Bob S.
On 11/25/05, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E.R.N. Reed wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Over here, we have this
In a message dated 11/26/2005 5:28:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think the term objectifying women has lost its literal meaning. In
our PC world it has come to mean depicting women in a way that is
blatantly sexual. However, that being said, I find that a difficult
On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
OK, warnings required for...
Nudity,
Snakes,
Surgical scars/wounds,
anything else? How about spiders?
Only one of the above will get me in trouble at work.
Regards, Bob S.
Personally I am phobic about great big green grasshoppers, so I
On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I still felt a need to say it -- those part of my feminist
stripes have
not changed, although I am on a list that is 95-99% male. However,
if most of
the women on the list react similarly to a photograph that tells
you something
PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 November 2005 15:20
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: My first PESO
On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:10 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
OK, warnings required for...
Nudity,
Snakes,
Surgical scars/wounds,
anything else? How about spiders?
Only one of the above will get me
Hi Paul
Maybe the filter at Kodak knows exactly when showing nudity becomes art?
On the other side it blocks Bob's site ;-)
greetings
Markus
I don't know what turns an artful nude into a sex object.
Props? A smile? The display of specific areas of the body?
Paul
On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Bob
Marnie,
You and I are of about the same 'vintage', and advocates of women's rights.
I supported my wife and other women as they struggled thru the '70's.
My daughter has just turned 21 and is a great result,
more ambitious accomplished than her brothers and will go farther too!
I see fashion as
In a message dated 11/26/2005 7:30:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can hang me for saying it, but I think that men tend to be more
visually oriented than women. This applies even more strongly to gay
men, in my experience.
Bob
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Yup, hang you! Hehehehe.
In a message dated 11/26/2005 7:38:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I see fashion as a culprit now... Too much, Wow - look at me, I'm
like Britany Spears. My 16 year old neice doesn't think she is
selling her sexuality, but that what it amounts to.
And this said, I still
Most have souls, just not their own...
Bob Shell wrote:
On Nov 26, 2005, at 7:05 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
This doesn't explain the vacant eyed fashion models.
Well you have to *have* a soul for it to be stolen...
This explains why I refuse to photograph politicians.
Bob
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Cheers,
Bob
I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just
squandered --George Best
-Original Message-
From: Bob Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 November 2005 15:20
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: My first PESO
On Nov 26, 2005, at 10
Filters don't know nothin' but they block everything. I remember a
rumor from about 5 years ago that Jpegs could carry
viruses, (no explanation of how they could operate or spread), the
administrators of the CSC wan decided to block all Jpegs
from being downloaded system wide. It crippled web
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: My first PESO
Filters don't know nothin' but they block everything. I remember a rumor
from about 5 years ago that Jpegs could carry
viruses, (no explanation of how they could operate or spread), the
administrators of the CSC
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