Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-14 Thread Bruce Walker
Rick, in case there's any confusion, Igor is the photographer of Square in Dresden from seafood perspective. I was just supporting his right to take it. :) On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, From the person who recently posted Fishy Nanotech: I

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-14 Thread John
I haven't seen anyone questioning his right to take it. He asked for opinions. He got 'em. On 2/14/2015 10:52 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Rick, in case there's any confusion, Igor is the photographer of Square in Dresden from seafood perspective. I was just supporting his right to take it. :) On

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 2/12/2015 21:52, Bruce Walker wrote: Ann, if we take the telephoto example, you will get pronounced compression that your eyes would not have given the scene. I'm not sure that is true - it is something I used to

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Wow, such a heated debate! As a scientist, I like pationed civilized discussions! As a scientist, I also feel obligated to clarify the possible confusions that occured in the process. A. Perspective and compression. First, I would provide a sort of rabbinistic response: Bruce's point is

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 2/13/2015 09:20, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 2/12/2015 21:52, Bruce Walker wrote: Ann, if we take the telephoto example, you will get pronounced compression that your eyes would not have given the scene. I'm not sure

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Thanks for posting the details, Igor - I can't always remember the science, and sometimes I can't grasp it all, but I definitely am in the why I love science school. And well aware of the portrait lens effect - my second favorite lens. The only reason I ever see for using a wide angle is if

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: No argument at all with you there , Bruce.. we got way off the original topic... Good heavens, Ann, this is the PDML. Tangential threading is encouraged if not mandatory. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
OMG - what was I thinking!! :-) a On 2/13/2015 15:32, Bruce Walker wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: No argument at all with you there , Bruce.. we got way off the original topic... Good heavens, Ann, this is the PDML. Tangential threading is

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-13 Thread Rick Womer
Bruce, From the person who recently posted Fishy Nanotech: I like it. I like the way the swirl of tram tracks and paving stones draw the eye to the building, and I like what the fisheye does to show the context of the subject.' I also think it could benefit from more post-processing, to

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Ken Waller
Works for me. With a little tighter cropping on the L R sides it would be even better IMO. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org Subject: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread John
On 2/12/2015 1:57 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Hi All! Time-to-time I am experimenting with the Korean 8mm fisheye lens. I've posted a few shots produced with that lens that I liked. But sometimes I am not sure if the photo works or not. Here is one of such shots:

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Thank you, Malcolm, Jack, Brian, Alan, Bruce, Ken, and John for sharing your thoughts! Brian and John, you pinpointed one of the things that bothers me here: the curvature of the tower. I think for this type of shots, the composition that would work better should have the tower right in the

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I don't see any point to that kind of shot.. It's a beautiful building, don't like seeing it distorted. ann On 2/12/2015 01:57, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Hi All! Time-to-time I am experimenting with the Korean 8mm fisheye lens. I've posted a few shots produced with that lens that I liked. But

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Well, what's the point to shooting through raindropped glass? WTPT standing on a chair and shooting down on a small group? WTPT shooting a closeup of a marching band from a great distance with a telephoto? WTPT shooting a scene's reflection in a puddle? WTPT trying anything different? On Thu,

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Jack Davis
Have never grasp the point to such mechanically produced distortion. Jack Sent from my iPhone On Feb 12, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I don't see any point to that kind of shot.. It's a beautiful building, don't like seeing it distorted. ann On

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Alan C
No, too distorted. A pano would be better. Fisheye is really a novelty sort of thing. Nice building. Alan C -Original Message- From: Igor PDML-StR Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 8:57 AM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bruce - in all your examples, you are capturing something your eye can see or did see without recording it with a camera... Not the same at all as using a fisheye - which produces an image the human eye can't see - until after the camera has captured it.. So perhaps not the best comparison to

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Ann, if we take the telephoto example, you will get pronounced compression that your eyes would not have given the scene. If I stand on a chair above two people, the taller of who I place behind the shorter one, using a wide angle lens I can make them both look about the same size. I used this

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 2/12/2015 21:52, Bruce Walker wrote: Ann, if we take the telephoto example, you will get pronounced compression that your eyes would not have given the scene. I'm not sure that is true - it is something I used to think but then somewhere someone showed something taken with a 50 mm lens and

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Jack Davis
Good choice for a fisheye. Jack Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote: Igor wrote: http://42graphy.org/misc/Dresden_IR00794.jpg The cobblestone street foreground makes this very easy on the eye, and I like the way the foreground

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-12 Thread Bruce Walker
I kinda like it; funky, unusual shot. I'd just crop in to remove a little of the sides and bottom; eg lose the bus left, and the pole right. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: Hi All! Time-to-time I am experimenting with the Korean 8mm fisheye lens.

Re: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-11 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org: Hi All! Time-to-time I am experimenting with the Korean 8mm fisheye lens. I've posted a few shots produced with that lens that I liked. But sometimes I am not sure if the photo works or not. Here is one of such shots:

RE: Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-11 Thread Malcolm Smith
Igor wrote: http://42graphy.org/misc/Dresden_IR00794.jpg The cobblestone street foreground makes this very easy on the eye, and I like the way the foreground leads you through the image. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Need your opinion - Square in Dresden from seafood perspective

2015-02-11 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Hi All! Time-to-time I am experimenting with the Korean 8mm fisheye lens. I've posted a few shots produced with that lens that I liked. But sometimes I am not sure if the photo works or not. Here is one of such shots: http://42graphy.org/misc/Dresden_IR00794.jpg I would like to hear your