Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-08 Thread Zos Xavius
Yeah, I really like their projection on the 8mm. Its probably one of the best projections out there. The 10-20 I used was indeed the variable aperture one. Compared to my 12-24, there's just no contest. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I have their 8mm,

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread Zos Xavius
I'm not a big fan of the sigma WA zooms. The edges on the 10-20 aren't great IMO. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: It looks mildly interesting, unless you have a Sigma 10-20/3.5 which is no optical slouch, is less than a stop slower, provides a more

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread Rob Studdert
The edges aren't that bad on the Sigma 10-20/3.5, they are better than the Sigma 14/2.8 and the old Pentax A15/3.5. At 10mm wide open it's a soft right at the extremes but generally if it needs to be used wide open then light is poor anyhow and the image doesn't suffer for the lack of edge

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread Jos from Holland
Hm, maybe I had a bad copy, but my Sigma 10-20 gave me so many just not sharp pictures. Now I have the 8-16mm, and it is so nice, sharp, and 8mm is so much more than 10mm when looking for extremes... Greetz, Jos On 7-12-2013 16:24, Rob Studdert wrote: The edges aren't that bad on the Sigma

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread Zos Xavius
Its possible the copy I used was bad. The edges looks awful. My Pentax 12-24 is razor sharp across the frame at f11. I have no need to go wider or faster. On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Jos from Holland jos_from_holl...@onsnet.nu wrote: Hm, maybe I had a bad copy, but my Sigma 10-20 gave me so

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread Boris Liberman
I think my 15 mm is wide enough for me, though this lens is impressive. On 12/6/2013 7:13 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: A new fast wide-angle rectilinear lens will be available soon for Pentax cameras: 10/2.8 from Samyang. Unfortunately, it will have only manual focus. It's also relatively

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Dec 08, 2013 at 02:24:16AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote: The edges aren't that bad on the Sigma 10-20/3.5, they are better than the Sigma 14/2.8 and the old Pentax A15/3.5. At 10mm wide open it's a soft right at the extremes but generally if it needs to be used wide open then light is

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread Zos Xavius
The problem with their lenses is really build quality. They have really good optics, no doubt about that (especially for the cost), but if you look at lensrentals repair list they are all at the top. If they started making nice metal bodied primes, a lot more people would take them more seriously.

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread John
Might depend on which Sigma 10-20 you had. There are two versions. I think the f/4-f/5.6 version is supposed to be a (teeny-tiny) little bit sharper than the constant aperture f/3.5 version. On 12/7/2013 10:32 AM, Jos from Holland wrote: Hm, maybe I had a bad copy, but my Sigma 10-20 gave me so

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-07 Thread Rob Studdert
I have their 8mm, it's actually a nice optic, it's not strictly fish-eye either. It's has a stereographic projection which translates to less objectionable distortion in the corners than a regular fish-eye and when used to shoot multi-image panos a better stitch. On 8 December 2013 06:27, Zos

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Zos Xavius
f2.8 @ 10mm doesn't come lightly. 1.5lbs really isn't all that heavy though. I'm very intrigued by this lens! On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Vey interesting. Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: A new fast wide-angle rectilinear lens will be

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
And look, it has nano coatings and that red band on the barrel just like the newest Pentax lenses. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: A new fast wide-angle rectilinear lens will be available soon for Pentax cameras: 10/2.8 from Samyang.

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Igor Roshchin
:-) Nano-shmano..., - says a professor in nano-materials. Those are not red bands, but just very small (micro-? nano-?) red turbans. That's a secret sign of the descendants of Red Turban troops stuck in Korea since 1360. They might have some emissaries embedded in Ricoh. ;-) Igor Fri Dec

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread CollinB
The pic looks like it is M mount and not A. Alas. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Bill
On 06/12/2013 11:17 AM, CollinB wrote: The pic looks like it is M mount and not A. Alas. It looks like they are releasing it in 10 different mounts, what's the problem? bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Igor, It makes me wonder if Samyang isn't manufacturing lenses for Ricoh us. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: :-) Nano-shmano..., - says a professor in nano-materials. Those are not red bands, but just very small (micro-? nano-?) red

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Zos Xavius
All their lenses are A mount IIRC. I wouldn't worry too much. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Igor, It makes me wonder if Samyang isn't manufacturing lenses for Ricoh us. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Igor Roshchin

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Bill
On 06/12/2013 11:33 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Igor, It makes me wonder if Samyang isn't manufacturing lenses for Ricoh us. Regards, Bob S. Check out the family resemblance between the DA*55/1.4 and this Samyang. Pay particular attention to the cover on the focus ring. bill -- PDML

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Bill
On 06/12/2013 11:37 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: All their lenses are A mount IIRC. I wouldn't worry too much. It's being listed as a KaF. The mount shown in the picture is a Nikon mount, which doesn't have an A setting. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Miserere
Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/2013 11:37 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: All their lenses are A mount IIRC. I wouldn't worry too much. It's being listed as a KaF. The mount shown in the picture is a Nikon mount, which doesn't have an A setting. bill All their Pentax lenses have been

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, Yes, same double row of grip bumps on the DA*55/1.4 and DFA50/2.8 Macro also. Think they have an overstock of the grip rubber or molds??? Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/2013 11:33 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Igor, It makes

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread David Mann
On Dec 6, 2013, at 6:13 pm, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: A new fast wide-angle rectilinear lens will be available soon for Pentax cameras: 10/2.8 from Samyang. Unfortunately, it will have only manual focus. It's also relatively heavy... It might of interest to some people here.

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-06 Thread Rob Studdert
It looks mildly interesting, unless you have a Sigma 10-20/3.5 which is no optical slouch, is less than a stop slower, provides a more versatile focal length range, has HSM focus which allows full manual override and is cheaper. On 6 December 2013 16:13, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-05 Thread Igor Roshchin
A new fast wide-angle rectilinear lens will be available soon for Pentax cameras: 10/2.8 from Samyang. Unfortunately, it will have only manual focus. It's also relatively heavy... It might of interest to some people here.

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-05 Thread P.J. Alling
That really is quite interesting. I would have hoped that Pentax would produce something in this focal length as they are still all aps-c. On 12/6/2013 12:13 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: A new fast wide-angle rectilinear lens will be available soon for Pentax cameras: 10/2.8 from Samyang.

Re: New lens to from Samyang: 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS SC

2013-12-05 Thread Larry Colen
Vey interesting. Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: A new fast wide-angle rectilinear lens will be available soon for Pentax cameras: 10/2.8 from Samyang. Unfortunately, it will have only manual focus. It's also relatively heavy... It might of interest to some people here.