Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:25 AM, knarf wrote: > Well, Dan, believe it or not, I agree with pretty much everything you just > said! :-) Science is science, and does not (or at least should not) depend on political perspective. Dan Dan Matyola

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-29 Thread knarf
Well, Dan, believe it or not, I agree with pretty much everything you just said! :-) It's been some time since the term "climate change" replaced "global warming". I don't know if the world is, on average, warmer or not, but what's irrefutable is: "The Arctic region is warmer than it used to

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-29 Thread knarf
First of all: Mark!! Second, you are correct, however it seems there is a correlation between one's position on climate change and one's political leaning. I'll say no more. LOL! Cheers, frank On December 29, 2015 1:59:55 PM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote:

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Our state climatologist is a friend of my wife. He presents a very strong case to demonstrate that "global warming," a predicted for the past 20 years, just is not happening. The evidence he reviews, however, shows clearly that there is climate change that has occurred over the past decades,

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-28 Thread John
On 12/26/2015 4:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: And who makes jets? Could it be humans? I rest my case... Ahem! Actually if anything global warming should reduce the polar jet stream effect as it should reduce the temp gradient

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-28 Thread knarf
I am certain that someone will be able to find a web page to refute it (can't one always?) but one group seems to agree with the "extreme weather is happening more often and it's because of climate change": http://www.skepticalscience.com/extreme-weather-global-warming-intermediate.htm They

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Having been through the peer review process it doesn't impress me in the least. Even those disciplines that have real rigor in the process can be and often are gamed. On 12/28/2015 11:45 PM, knarf wrote: I am certain that someone will be able to find a web page to refute it (can't one

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-28 Thread P.J. Alling
On 12/28/2015 3:35 PM, John wrote: On 12/26/2015 4:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: And who makes jets? Could it be humans? I rest my case... Ahem! Actually if anything global warming should reduce the polar jet stream effect as it should

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-28 Thread WILSON MICHAEL
> On 29 December 2015 at 05:13 "P.J. Alling" wrote: > > > Having been through the peer review process it doesn't impress me in the > least. Even those disciplines that have real rigor in the process can > be and often are gamed. Present your evidence for that

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-27 Thread WILSON MICHAEL
> On 26 December 2015 at 22:14 Bob W-PDML wrote: > > > On 26 Dec 2015, at 21:53, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > > > On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >> And who makes jets? > >> > >> Could it be humans? > >> > >> I rest my case... >

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread knarf
And who makes jets? Could it be humans? I rest my case... Cheers, frank On December 26, 2015 1:08:14 PM EST, Steve Cottrell wrote: >On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Whatever the cause that is devastating flooding and I feel for the >>locals. What a way

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread Ken Waller
Yeah, but who made the streams ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "knarf" <knarftheria...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT Wet Christmas And who makes jets? Could it be humans? I rest my case... Cheers, frank

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread WILSON MICHAEL
> On 26 December 2015 at 18:08 Steve Cottrell wrote: > The jet stream is a but too far south and stuck at the moment. A but too far north doesn't bear thinking about. Although it describes most politicians perfectly. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread knarf
arftheria...@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: OT Wet Christmas > > >> And who makes jets? >> >> Could it be humans? >> >> I rest my case... >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >> On December 26, 2015 1:08:14 PM EST, Steve C

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread Alan C
At last we agree on something! I go for solar cycles. Alan C -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4:39 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Wet Christmas Don't worry. It's got nothing to do with Global Warming. Sorry, we don't use that term

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread Alan C
Exactly. They all depend ultimately on the sun. Alan C -Original Message- From: Ken Waller Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 5:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Wet Christmas How about nature? -Original Message- From: Alan C <c...@lantic.net> Subje

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: >Whatever the cause that is devastating flooding and I feel for the >locals. What a way to spend Christmas. The jet stream is a but too far south and stuck at the moment. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Yikes! Cheers, Christine > On Dec 26, 2015, at 8:19 AM, WILSON MICHAEL wrote: > > Mark! and Lisa did some walking on the pennine way last year and we met in the > bucolic town of Hebden Bridge. It looks a bit different this week. > >

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread knarf
Don't worry. It's got nothing to do with Global Warming. Sorry, we don't use that term anymore. Climate Change: It's got nothing to do with Climate Change, which is doesn't really exist and is just a left-lib socialist wealth redistribution scheme. Whatever the cause that is devastating

OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread WILSON MICHAEL
Mark! and Lisa did some walking on the pennine way last year and we met in the bucolic town of Hebden Bridge. It looks a bit different this week. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35181713 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread Ken Waller
How about nature? -Original Message- >From: Alan C <c...@lantic.net> >Subject: Re: OT Wet Christmas > >At last we agree on something! I go for solar cycles. > >Alan C > >-Original Message- >From: knarf >Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 4

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 26 Dec 2015, at 21:53, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> And who makes jets? >> >> Could it be humans? >> >> I rest my case... > > Ahem! > > Actually if anything global warming should reduce the polar jet stream > effect as

Re: OT Wet Christmas

2015-12-26 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/12/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: >And who makes jets? > >Could it be humans? > >I rest my case... Ahem! Actually if anything global warming should reduce the polar jet stream effect as it should reduce the temp gradient --