If you ever do need it, I think I have the codec you'll need for Window 7 Pro
64bit.
I'm getting ready to replace this computer, but I'll keep it just in case.
My video card is failing. No big deal for text & viewing images, but the one
computer game I like to play keeps crashing. Due to the
John - I don't really need to see the dng files in Explorer because the
only DNG files I have I also have jpgs of the same image - I use the
jpgs to search of course and then grab the dngs to put into photoshop
elements -
ann
On 10/4/2021 4:21 PM, John wrote:
I *know* there's a "codec" that
I *know* there's a "codec" that allows DNG files to be seen in Windoze Explorer
that works with Win 7 Pro 64bit, because I have it installed here.
I think it's this one:
http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/dng/win/DNGCodec_2_0_Installer.exe
But I'm not sure. I didn't install it just now
That looks like just the thing... I really don't have all that many
files to convert but I know some are hiding in PEF only form on my hard
drive..
I haven't shot with the ist_D in years _ sold it and the software for
that was on a long dead hard drive .. I've been always shooting making
raw
On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 03:39:56AM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote:
> Paul, John and Igor...
>
> My lightbulb went on at 3 am I don't want a converter to DNG... I need
> something to bulk copy my PEFS to JPG"S leaving the PEFS alone... Ugh. I
> just need to see what is on the PEFs when I'm
Aha! If all you need are viewable JPGs you can use *Instant JPG from
Raw*. All it does is extract the embedded JPG from the raw file. It
will batch process - select the raw files you want the JPGs from, then
right click to open the context menu, that's where you'll find the menu
item for
Paul, John and Igor...
My lightbulb went on at 3 am I don't want a converter to DNG... I
need something to bulk copy my PEFS to JPG"S leaving the PEFS alone...
Ugh. I just need to see what is on the PEFs when I'm browsing my image
folders.. I have a feeling I don't need anything to big
Ann -
I found I still have a copy of DNG Convertor v9.5.1. It's from 2016 so
should still work with Win 7. I sent you a separate email with a link
to download it from Dropbox. It's a big file (251 mB) so it will take a
while to download. Let me know if that works for you.
Paul
On
I am helping Ann with the file download via direct e-mail.
But in the mean time, - in case someone needs it as well, - I've mixed up
the link and posted one for Camera Raw, not DNG converter, sorry.
Here is the correct link:
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/dng/win/DNGConverter_12_4.exe
Igor
Ann,
I have version 12.2.0.387 Adobe DNG converter. It DOES work with Windows 7 Pro
64-bit.
It's not the current converter from Adobe that requires Windows10. It's the
older one that's no longer available on their site.
I just looked in my downloads folder and I still have the executable
Ann,
According to a posting I've read on Adobe support forum, ver. 12.4 of DNG
converter is the last one that runs on Windows 7.
Adobe doesn't keep it on their download website, but it is
still available from their ftp site:
Thanks for trying to help, Igor...
ALAS I have windows 7 PRO - the 64 bit WIndows 7 - so the last option
doesn't work... (says so specifically on line)
The Adobe doesn't work either... as I don't have WIndoze 10..
oh well, it's not really critical - faststone does work.
On 10/3/2021 11:29
Popping in quickly...
(Sorry, I seldom get to read PDML lately.)
I've always used Adobe DNG converter which works well (or at least used
to).
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/adobe-dng-converter.html
One thing that you'd need to choose there is the target version of DNG.
I would
I have a couple of hundred PEF's that are all in one folder on my
harddrive.. would like to copy all of them to DNG's so I can view the
thumbnails
in windows explorer on my computer.. I can see them in Freestone.. but
it is cumbersome for me with my work flow..
Can I do this in bulk? Got a
: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
Subject: Re: K3 - PEF vs DNG
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015, at 02:21 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
A while back I said I was converting PEFs thru the Adobe DNG converter to
DNGs because CS2 couldn't handle DNGs from the K3.. I received
suggestions
that I should shoot DNGs
was shooting DNG. The
reason I was using the DNG converter was because CS2 couldn't handle K3
flavored DNG.
BTW, a PEF file out of the K3 was 29.3 MB, while the same image file out of
the K3 was 29.9 - so yeah a very small file size savings using PEF.
FWIW - I'm using Adobe DNG convertor
.
I double checked my in camera settings and found I was shooting DNG. The
reason I was using the DNG converter was because CS2 couldn't handle K3
flavored DNG.
BTW, a PEF file out of the K3 was 29.3 MB, while the same image file out
of
the K3 was 29.9 - so yeah a very small file size
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:24:31 +0100 Dario Bonazza wrote:
1) Install Pentax Camera Utility 5.0 and see if it has such PEF-DNG conversion
feature.
Thats wat I ended up using, it has a nice batch PEF to DNG conversion, and
lightroom 4.4 was happy :)
Thanks Dario
Hi all,
Picked up my K3 from the shop today, but had to use it almost right away
without much time
to get everything perfect. Did most of the required settings, but blundered
with the RAW.
It was set to PEF instead of my prefered DNG ...
So I ended up with about 40 PEF's that my LR 4.4 or CS
did you try the latest version of Adobe's DNG converter (8.2)
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5646
I am not sure it will cope with K3's PEF format but worth a try?
Alastair
On 26 November 2013 10:00, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
Hi all,
Picked up my K3 from
I can se two options:
1) Install Pentax Camera Utility 5.0 and see if it has such PEF-DNG
conversion feature.
2) Wait for next Adobe DNG converter including K-3 PEF's as recognizable
files and do the conversion.
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: Jan van Wijk
Sent: Monday, November
se = see
In the mean time, you can do the in-camera PEF-to-JPG conversion and use the
JPG files.
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: Dario Bonazza
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:24 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K3 PEF to DNG conversion.
I can se two options:
1
...@virgilio.it wrote:
I can se two options:
1) Install Pentax Camera Utility 5.0 and see if it has such PEF-DNG
conversion feature.
2) Wait for next Adobe DNG converter including K-3 PEF's as recognizable
files and do the conversion.
Dario
-Messaggio originale- From: Jan van Wijk
Hi Dario,
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:28:19 +0100 Dario Bonazza wrote:
In the mean time, you can do the in-camera PEF-to-JPG conversion and use the
JPG files.
Of course, why did I not think of that!
The images are not that important, quality wise, some family-meeting shots, so
JPG's are fine!
Hi Alistair,
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:29:04 +1300 Alastair Robertson wrote:
this thread suggests that the Camera Utility from silkypix that came
with the K3 can do the conversion
I can't think of a reason to convert to anything but the latest
version unless you haven't upgraded Lightroom or Photoshop.
gs
George Sinos
gsi...@gmail.com
www.georgesphotos.net
plus.georgesinos.com
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
GOn 10/26/2012 9:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
It's very easy to convert PEF files (any compatible native raw files,
as a matter of fact) to DNG format in Lightroom. Just select all the
PEF files in the Library module (grid view) and then choose the
Convert to DNG command from the Library menu.
the need to import from catalog. I have no worries
about the DNG format continued to being supported - there must be a
lot more people using DNG than PEF in the world!
Alastair
On 26 October 2012 18:08, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I've been thinking about this for a long time now. I
I keep a separate disc with DNG-versions of my PEF-files, but do not delete the
PEFs.
DagT
Sendt fra min iPad
Den 26. okt. 2012 kl. 07:08 skrev Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
Hi!
I've been thinking about this for a long time now. I have few tens of
thousands of photos that were taken
is there an app to convert dng to pef?
-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-
-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:46 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG
Not that I know, and that might be a reason to keep PEF.
DagT
Sendt fra min iPad
Den 26. okt. 2012 kl. 12:55 skrev J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:
is there an app to convert dng to pef?
-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-
-Original Message
hifis...@gate.net:
is there an app to convert dng to pef?
-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-
-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:46 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject
Ok, I didn't know it could make PEF files. I online use it from PEF to DNG.
DagT
Sendt fra min iPad
Den 26. okt. 2012 kl. 13:05 skrev Eric Featherstone
eric.featherst...@gmail.com:
Adobe DNG converter
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=106platform=Windows
On 26
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood the question. I thought PEF-DNG was what
was wanted. It won't do DNG-PEF.
Eric.
On 26 October 2012 12:08, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
Ok, I didn't know it could make PEF files. I online use it from PEF to DNG.
DagT
Sendt fra min iPad
Den 26. okt. 2012 kl. 13
No, you had it right Eric. Boris asked how he could convert PEF to DNG. I can'
t imagine why anyone would want to go the other way.
And Boris, in answer to the other part of your question, the DNG format is
standard across the board and is your best bet for continued supports. Some
scanning
We are all talking about PEF to DNG :-)
What I don't understand is why you have to choose. Unless you an extreme number
of pictures storage is fairly cheap, so I keep both. Mainly using PEF, but
converting to DNG a couple of times a year without deleting PEF Format backup.
DagT
Sendt fra min
more people using DNG than PEF in the world!
Alastair
On 26 October 2012 18:08, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I've been thinking about this for a long time now. I have few tens of
thousands of photos that were taken by *istD (PEF) or K10D (also PEF, shame
on me). I could
people using DNG than PEF in the world!
Alastair
On 26 October 2012 18:08, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I've been thinking about this for a long time now. I have few tens of
thousands of photos that were taken by *istD (PEF) or K10D (also PEF, shame
on me). I could convert
JPEGs for all my images, just those I
post -- maybe 1%.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:30 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
We are all talking about PEF to DNG :-)
What I don't understand is why you have to choose. Unless you an extreme
number of pictures storage is fairly cheap, so I keep both
AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?
I should have kept the PEF files. -- said by no-one, ever. :-)
I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out
all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of them).
DNG is essentially
-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?
I should have kept the PEF files. -- said by no-one, ever. :-)
I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out
all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of them).
DNG is essentially a superset
7:37 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?
I should have kept the PEF files. -- said by no-one, ever. :-)
I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out
all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of them).
DNG
From: Bruce Walker
I should have kept the PEF files. -- said by no-one, ever. :-)
I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out
all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of them).
DNG is essentially a superset of PEF and they are both lossless
formats.
My experience is that converting PEFs while importing into LR4 results
in a slightly smaller file size than shooting DNGs in camera (K-5).
Anybody else noticed this?
-p
On 10/26/2012 10:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
What about shooting with DNG as your raw format instead of PEF? Pros
Cons?
On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: Bruce Walker
I should have kept the PEF files. -- said by no-one, ever. :-)
I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out
all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of
Since K-7 I shoot exclusively in DNG. In fact, I chose Ricoh GXR over
other similar cameras also because its native RAW format is DNG.
It is just that I have about 10K shots made with *istD and 20K shots
made with K10D that are PEFs. I should have switched to DNG with K10D,
but PEFs were
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: Bruce Walker
I should have kept the PEF files. -- said by no-one, ever. :-)
I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out
all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on the camera body. The K10D and K20D create DNGs with no
compression at all, so they quickly fill up SD cards. So I shoot PEF
(compressed) and convert to DNG on import (then nuke the PEFs).
The K-5 and
Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
From: Bruce Walker
I should have kept the PEF files. -- said by no-one, ever. :-)
I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out
all the PEFs,
Hi!
I've been thinking about this for a long time now. I have few tens of
thousands of photos that were taken by *istD (PEF) or K10D (also PEF,
shame on me). I could convert them to DNG and discard (is it smart?) the
originals.
Do you think it is a good idea? Do I need to worry about
From: Tanya Love
So to all you tecchie-heads, who can answer this question??
Now that I have the option (with my new K-7) of choosing between .pef
and .dng, I am wondering why there is such an option and which file
format is better, or are they both a much of a muchness? Can anyone
help me
So to all you tecchie-heads, who can answer this question??
Now that I have the option (with my new K-7) of choosing between .pef and .dng,
I am wondering why there is such an option and which file format is better, or
are they both a much of a muchness? Can anyone help me here?
Tan
no advantage to either format.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
From: Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com
Subject: pef or dng why?
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 8:50 AM
So to all you tecchie-heads, who can answer
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:17:57AM -0800, Rick Womer scripsit:
I believe that the DNGs are compressed on the K7, though, so there is
probably no advantage to either format.
PEF is Pentax-specific. DNG is a standard of sorts. So the advantage
to DNGs is that almost all raw file processing
: Re: pef or dng why?
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:17:57AM -0800, Rick Womer scripsit:
I believe that the DNGs are compressed on the K7, though, so there is
probably no advantage to either format.
PEF is Pentax-specific. DNG is a standard of sorts. So the advantage to
DNGs is that almost all raw
On 7 February 2010 23:06, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 06:17:57AM -0800, Rick Womer scripsit:
I believe that the DNGs are compressed on the K7, though, so there is
probably no advantage to either format.
PEF is Pentax-specific. DNG is a standard of sorts. So the
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:10 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
And for those of use with multiple systems, with multiple RAW formats,
it keeps file handling simple.
DS
Like us.:-), and those who only have CS1.
Dave
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Love wrote:
So to all you tecchie-heads, who can answer this question??
Now that I have the option (with my new K-7) of choosing between .pef and .dng,
I am wondering why there is such an option and which file format is better, or
are they both a much of a muchness? Can anyone help me here?
Tan
K-7) of choosing between .pef and
.dng, I am wondering why there is such an option and which file format is
better, or are they both a much of a muchness? Can anyone help me here?
Tan. ☺
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William Robb wrote:
Prints will survive benign neglect.
And on the other side, it's not just the media that have to survive ...
the media readers and renderers do, too. Image on paper plus Mark 1 Mod
0 eyeball = perception. CD/DVD/whatever plus appropriate storage device
plus computer
Graydon wrote:
It's not a backup until there are three physically distinct copies, at
least one of which is somewhere else.
If it ain't off-site, it ain't a backup. :-)
--
Thanks,
DougF (KG4LMZ)
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I was born when he was in the Navy in Spain, Monaco,
Italy. I really need to scan them for viewing and/or printing.
Tom
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:31 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Graydon
Subject: Re: pef vs dng
Copy all your digital files forward
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 12:42:48PM -0500, Tom C scripsit:
Most of my images from the last 3 years are backed up on two different
external hard drives, but I really should burn them to DVD's as well.
It's not a backup until there are three physically distinct copies, at
least one of which is
I have hundreds of DVDs that were burned with backup photo files. Some
are five or six years old. I did a spot check of a few dozen the other
day, and all were good.
Every duplicate copy of a file is a backup. But some backups are
better than others.
Paul
On Oct 8, 2009, at 9:05 PM,
I know all that... I'm in IT... I'm lazy or time-pressured or both. :-)
It's true, if you don't have at least one copy offsite it's a risk.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 12:42:48PM -0500, Tom C scripsit:
Most of my images from the last
I have a K10D and K20D in both cases DNG is larger than a PEF and
that's relevant to me -might they be double size, 75% more or other %-
~in the cameras I own~ DNG is still considerably larger. I have a
preference on a raw converter, and that raw converter supports PEF
better than DNG.
Can we
a K10D and K20D in both cases DNG is larger than a PEF and
that's relevant to me -might they be double size, 75% more or other %-
~in the cameras I own~ DNG is still considerably larger. I have a
preference on a raw converter, and that raw converter supports PEF
better than DNG.
Can we agree
Fernando wrote:
http://www.phaseone.com/upload/po_2436_comp_sheet_a6.pdf
K20D, K10D, K200D, K110D, K100D Super, K100D, *istDL2,
*istDL, *istD, *istDS2, *istDS (PEF fi les only supported)
DNG (raw DNG support only). The DNG support is not
optimized for specifi c cameras.
That means they don't
William Robb wrote:
From: Fernando
I'm just stating that, as of today, shooting DNG
restricts you from usign the full universe of raw converters out
there.
There are a lot of advantages to DNG. So what if I miss out on a raw
converter that I will never use? And how good can it be if it
-If i need to run a batch process in my
PC to compress DNG I might as well run a batch process to convert PEF
to DNG-
I can convert PEF to DNG anytime I want, the opposite -as of today- is
not easily achievable.
This is my case and my case only; but if someone is in a similar
position as I am, he
On 2009-10-06 20:56 , Doug Franklin wrote:
[...] and I won't believe it anyway until the format has been
around and interchangeable for two or three or seven decades, minimum,
at which point I'll likely be long dead. :-)
i have some PICT files dating back to at least 1987 that i can still
- Original Message -
From: Fernando
Subject: Re: pef vs dng
Hi Mark,
Just to clean up any misunderstanding I may have caused; last night I
shot a DNG on my K20D, and open that in Capture One 4.
The file is opened and can be processed; however the camera profile
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:58 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Fernando
Subject: Re: pef vs dng
Hi Mark,
Just to clean up any misunderstanding I may have caused; last night I
shot a DNG on my K20D, and open that in Capture One 4.
The file
- Original Message -
From: Fernando
Subject: Re: pef vs dng
So what you are saying is that Capture one is broken out of the box.
Nope, for Pentax PEF is what they commit to fully support in their
documentation:
Pentax: K7, K20D, K10D, K200D, K110D, K100D Super, K100D, *istDL2
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
IE: They aren't supporting DNG.
Probably -works for me-
snip
Capture One works better with PEF as I mentioned in my test; In DNG
you have an extra step to select camera profile, and even doing so you
still can't get
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 09:58:30AM -0600, William Robb wrote:
So what you are saying is that Capture one is broken out of the box.
That might be putting it a bit strongly, but basically you're right.
Or, if not completely broken, at least more than a little crippled.
If you know how to extract
TIFF format is however very lose, and can accommodate compression
schemes that are not commonly used, which would make such files
difficult to read at a future date.
steve harley wrote:
On 2009-10-06 20:56 , Doug Franklin wrote:
[...] and I won't believe it anyway until the format has been
On 2009-10-07 12:46 , P. J. Alling wrote:
TIFF format is however very lose, and can accommodate compression
schemes that are not commonly used, which would make such files
difficult to read at a future date.
i can't digest the specs quickly enough to be sure, but my sense is that
TIFF/EP (the
in a centralized database), the applications will create .XMP
sidecar files for each PEF file.
Hmmm, I must be missing something here. Both PEF and DNG are atomic, in the
sense that they're comprehensive and without need of any sort of sidecar
file, in terms of the photographic data and metadata
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 01:31:37PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
On 2009-10-07 12:46 , P. J. Alling wrote:
TIFF format is however very lose, and can accommodate compression
schemes that are not commonly used, which would make such files
difficult to read at a future date.
i can't digest the
Godfrey, I know and agree with you about the way proprietary RAW files such
as PEF store conversion data as opposed to DNG. Everyone trying to use both
formats should have noticed that, including those only trying the other
format (whichever it is) once or twice.
That makes me think that in
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
Godfrey, I know and agree with you about the way proprietary RAW files such
as PEF store conversion data as opposed to DNG. Everyone trying to use both
formats should have noticed that, including those only trying
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 12:31:57AM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit:
Graydon wrote:
Well, coming up on 4 decades, we have roff, and all its various --
nroff, troff, groff -- descendants. The examples in the original Bell
Labs papers work with current shipping open source groff.
OK, that's one.
- Original Message -
From: Graydon
Subject: Re: pef vs dng
Copy all your digital files forward; this is the way, the truth, and the
life with digital files.
For paper, you need the paper. For any digital storage medium, you
need an entire, *operational* system including
On my Mac, PEF files are one single file (unless there are invisible
files stored somewhere) and DNG files are stored as two files, one
being a Data file (dark grey rectangle icon with DATA written across
it).
On Oct 5, 2009, at 09:16 , Mark Roberts wrote:
Dario Bonazza wrote:
So I
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
On my Mac, PEF files are one single file (unless there are invisible files
stored somewhere) and DNG files are stored as two files, one being a Data
file (dark grey rectangle icon with DATA written across it).
PEF
I have CS on the Mac so i shoot in DNG so they can be read.
Dave
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I've been using pef raw files in my K20.
Are there any disadvantages to switching to dng?
I'm currently processing in lightroom, but also have licenses for
~quick delurking~
AFAIK you cannot convert .DNG to .PEF but you can always do the
opposite; some raw converters out there don't read .DNG -Capture One
comes to mind- If you don't like to restrict your options when it
comes to processing your files, .PEF is better.
I'm biased, Capture One is my
Fernando wrote:
~quick delurking~
AFAIK you cannot convert .DNG to .PEF but you can always do the
opposite; some raw converters out there don't read .DNG -Capture One
comes to mind-
Capture One *does* read DNG according to their web site.
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Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
Fernando wrote:
~quick delurking~
AFAIK you cannot convert .DNG to .PEF but you can always do the
opposite; some raw converters out there don't read .DNG -Capture One
comes to mind-
Capture One *does* read DNG according to their web site.
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On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:39:34PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
Fernando wrote:
~quick delurking~
AFAIK you cannot convert .DNG to .PEF but you can always do the
opposite; some raw converters out there don't read .DNG -Capture One
comes to mind-
Capture One *does* read DNG according
tools to
convert PEF to DNG, but that means you need the tools (and somewhere
to run them) as well as the raw image files.
I don't see any problem in that statement.
Until Nikon and Canon adopt DNG as their raw format I don't see
converters needing to support DNG
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:57 PM
PEF files supported)
Adobe: DNG (raw DNG support only). The DNG support is not optimized
for specific cameras.
Of course it isn't. Nor does it need to be - that's the point of DNG.
Of course you'll still be able to use today's tools to
convert PEF to DNG, ?but that means you need the tools
is that if you want the best
from their product you shoot PEF
Of course you'll still be able to use today's tools to
convert PEF to DNG, ?but that means you need the tools (and somewhere
to run them) as well as the raw image files.
I don't see any problem in that statement.
Apparently
.XMP
sidecar files for each PEF file.
Hmmm, I must be missing something here. Both PEF and DNG are atomic, in
the sense that they're comprehensive and without need of any sort of
sidecar file, in terms of the photographic data and metadata itself.
I think/suspect the .XMP sidecar files are more
- Original Message -
From: Fernando
Subject: Re: pef vs dng
I'm just stating that, as of today, shooting DNG
restricts you from usign the full universe of raw converters out
there.
There are a lot of advantages to DNG. So what if I miss out on a raw
converter that I will never
Fernando wrote:
As geek as you need to be if you are processing raw files 20 years
from now. You want future generations to enjoy your photos: print them
in archival paper, process them as TIFF 16bits . - Just to be clear-
nobody is stopping you from converting your files from .PEF to .DNG
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 10:56:49PM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit:
Independent of any of that stuff, if you want people to be able to
easily view them decades from now, print them. So far, paper is
universal. I know of no digital format that can make that claim with a
straight face, and
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Fernando
Subject: Re: pef vs dng
I'm just stating that, as of today, shooting DNG
restricts you from usign the full universe of raw converters out
there.
There are a lot
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 08:56:20PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Fernando
Subject: Re: pef vs dng
I'm just stating that, as of today, shooting DNG
restricts you from usign the full universe of raw converters out
there.
There are a lot of advantages to DNG
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